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Apr 25, 2013 12:49 AM
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Tyrel said:
If it's better than the original anime adaptation then bring it on. The dragged on too much.


Given most HBO shows have 5 or more seasons....unless Del Toro specficially sets out to do this as one season miniseries, the likelyhood is it will be "dragged" on longer than the original. Which is fine by me tbh!
Apr 25, 2013 12:57 AM

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Stephen Thompson is planning on joining ... Sherlock is AMAZING so I have high hopes
Apr 25, 2013 1:19 AM

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Kratos_Ortega said:
This problably is the one of the best news I have read on MAL for a long time. This is just amazing, and I'm pretty much speechless. If this pulls through, we're in for a real nail biter here!


Yeah, but Kratos, I'm just worried about this...

BigSimo said:
if they americanize it (ie. set it in america, have all the characters be american etc.) then the whole thing will be worthless.
i'd like for them to cast an english speaking japanese man as tenma, and have the whole thing set in germany. but this won't happen.
it sounds good on paper, but when you think about it, it won't come close to the source material.


Inb4 Kenzo Tenma -> John Smith
Apr 25, 2013 1:21 AM

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Urasawa's masterpiece adapted into a real live tv show? This must be a dream. If done the right way and good quality actors, high budget, this could be awesome. Also HBO, which means no censors.



Apr 25, 2013 1:21 AM

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deadleeserious said:
Tyrel said:
If it's better than the original anime adaptation then bring it on. The dragged on too much.


Given most HBO shows have 5 or more seasons....unless Del Toro specficially sets out to do this as one season miniseries, the likelyhood is it will be "dragged" on longer than the original. Which is fine by me tbh!


Well it all depends of course. If it can keep me more interested than that of the anime, big plus.
Apr 25, 2013 1:44 AM

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Okay this could be...good ?
Apr 25, 2013 1:50 AM

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Whoa Guillermo Del Toro, Stephen Thompson and HBO? This could actually work O_O
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BigSimo said:
if they americanize it (ie. set it in america, have all the characters be american etc.) then the whole thing will be worthless.
i'd like for them to cast an english speaking japanese man as tenma, and have the whole thing set in germany. but this won't happen.
it sounds good on paper, but when you think about it, it won't come close to the source material.



Certainly, if they tried to throw it all into the US, it would likely be a disaster, but with the talent involved and this being HBO rather than network TV, it seems doubtful that they would try to take it out of Europe when it's rather important that it is set in Europe. The one change I could see them possibly making is changing Tenma's origin, and while I would prefer them not to do that, that isn't a particularly huge detail in the show, far less important than most other places. I wouldn't be surprised if that detail actually came down to whom they settle on to actually play Tenma.



deadleeserious said:
Tyrel said:
If it's better than the original anime adaptation then bring it on. The dragged on too much.


Given most HBO shows have 5 or more seasons....unless Del Toro specficially sets out to do this as one season miniseries, the likelyhood is it will be "dragged" on longer than the original. Which is fine by me tbh!


The anime worked well with 74 episodes at roughly 20 minutes of content an episode. If the live action were to need a similar length, that works out to about 25 hours, which as HBO shows go close to a full hour thanks to the lack of commercials, the two ideal choices for length are probably 2 seasons of 13 episodes, or 3 seasons of 10 episodes.

If the anime pace is viewed as too slow for a thriller, it would be quite possible to speed it up some from the anime pace, in which case 2 seasons of 10-11 episodes would be sufficient. If they start going below 20 episodes total though, then they are probably rushing too much. They also certainty could go longer if they try to pad it, but it seems likely that any longer would likely need excessive padding to the source material to do so, which could only work out if the talent involved is able to add padding material with writing on par with the original.
Apr 25, 2013 2:19 AM
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Stopped reading when I saw HBO but Del Toro? Maybe I'll give this a shot?
Apr 25, 2013 2:24 AM

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Man, this is amazing!! HBO's never disappointed me. I'm in so hard. Please keep us posted on the new developments :)
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This could turn out pretty amazing, I think.
The only thing you can rely on is that you can't rely on anything.
Apr 25, 2013 2:31 AM

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Just finished Monster about a week ago and it's one of my favourite anime!! Amazing plot, amazing characters :) I'm certainly going to give the adaption a try.
Apr 25, 2013 2:46 AM

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*BREATHES* OH GOD YES PLZ
Apr 25, 2013 3:01 AM

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I'm seriously interesting in people's problems with HBO right now. I mean, they actually pulled of a reasonable decentl ASOIAF adaption.

Needless to say, HBO + Monster is a very interesting combination.
Steel Ball Run anime when?
Apr 25, 2013 3:04 AM

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In return, they should make an American show into a mango...
Like Breaking Bad.
Apr 25, 2013 3:18 AM

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Hmm, Guillermo Del Toro is a great in his own ways..
Hope this will turn out good :P
Apr 25, 2013 3:36 AM

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This could be really good, Monster is one of the few anime series that can fit a TV show in my opinion.
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Nidhoeggr said:
I mean, they actually pulled of a reasonable decentl ASOIAF adaption.
You've gotta be kidding me.

This show is going to be terrible*, if it ever actually gets made. So I hope it doesn't.

*Starting from the fact that Americans are too racist to have an Asian as the main character. And they would make Eva have about a hundred times more sex.
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fanty said:
Nidhoeggr said:
I mean, they actually pulled of a reasonable decentl ASOIAF adaption.
You've gotta be kidding me.

In other news, this show is going to be terrible, if it ever actually gets made. So I hope it doesn't.


Game of Thrones is better than your favorite anime.
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Apr 25, 2013 3:48 AM

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dankickyou said:
fanty said:
Nidhoeggr said:
I mean, they actually pulled of a reasonable decentl ASOIAF adaption.
You've gotta be kidding me.

In other news, this show is going to be terrible, if it ever actually gets made. So I hope it doesn't.


Game of Thrones is better than your favorite anime.
MAL says we have high anime compatibility, but it looks like you haven't seen my favourite show. And I've actually read the actual ASOIAF books, I know what a "decent" adaptation would have looked like.
Apr 25, 2013 3:52 AM

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This is gonna be so epic!!
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Apr 25, 2013 3:52 AM

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I'm not even a huge Monster fan and I'm really excited!

I'll definitely be watching this, and regardless of the gratuitous amounts of sex and violence that HBO shows tend to have, it's highly likely it will be very well written. HBO have some of the best writers in the business so I'm very much looking forward to this.

I should probably finish those few episodes of Monster I've been putting off for months...
Apr 25, 2013 3:55 AM

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That might actually work.
Apr 25, 2013 3:56 AM

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Wow I should hurry up and finish the show then. This sounds exciting, I feel like it's better fitted to a live action series anyway.
Apr 25, 2013 3:59 AM

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Better don't spoil it........ zzzzzzz
Apr 25, 2013 4:03 AM
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HBO... will watch.
I nominate Daniel Day Lewis to play Johan.
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chrislongden3 said:
Kratos_Ortega said:
This problably is the one of the best news I have read on MAL for a long time. This is just amazing, and I'm pretty much speechless. If this pulls through, we're in for a real nail biter here!


Yeah, but Kratos, I'm just worried about this...

BigSimo said:
if they americanize it (ie. set it in america, have all the characters be american etc.) then the whole thing will be worthless.
i'd like for them to cast an english speaking japanese man as tenma, and have the whole thing set in germany. but this won't happen.
it sounds good on paper, but when you think about it, it won't come close to the source material.


Inb4 Kenzo Tenma -> John Smith


Oh wow, yeah, that could be kinda off. But seeing how the show actually takes place around Europe, I'm not that worried, but if they are to change it to American setting, I will be a bit disappointed.

BKA Lunge -> FBI Agent Pierce
Apr 25, 2013 4:13 AM
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Don't see why they'd change it to an American setting. HBO has plenty of shows that don't have one.
Apr 25, 2013 4:39 AM

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mhmmmmmmm sounds good
Apr 25, 2013 4:43 AM

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Lol Xinil had to come out the basement to report about this

Anyway hope it actually happens + if it does I hope it's awesome
Apr 25, 2013 4:50 AM
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Me excited about a TV Series?
Colour me surprised.

I'll be scarred if this turns to nonsense, so I pray for the best.

PS: What are the odds Tenma that will be a real Nihonjin?
Apr 25, 2013 4:53 AM

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This sounds just wonderful!
Everything about it sounds like it could be an amazing adaption.
I will look forward to this, immensely so, and I might be smiling for the rest of the day.
I hope you have a lovely day ♥ヾ(๑❛ ▿ ◠๑ )
Apr 25, 2013 5:09 AM
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Lots of very optimistic people huh..
Apr 25, 2013 5:31 AM

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Ho-ho-hoooooly shit, this is awesome news. If they pull it off and cast the right guys (the casting of Johan is so very key to this series working), it'll be a smash hit.

Apr 25, 2013 5:33 AM

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Fucking great news!
Apr 25, 2013 5:35 AM

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Sounds promising, and I'm usually not in favor of Western adaptations of anime or manga.
Apr 25, 2013 5:35 AM

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I don't doubt Guillermo Del Toro & HBO can put up a quite good show,however the great storyline is here and the second big test will be the cast they'll choose.
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Apr 25, 2013 5:48 AM

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Seems this notice is the notice of the day. If this come true I watch it. I'm courious about this.
Apr 25, 2013 5:54 AM

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Good news. Definitely has potential to be a great show if they do it right.
Apr 25, 2013 5:59 AM

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this news could finally give me the motivation to watch the anime
Apr 25, 2013 6:02 AM

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I'm worry, anime adaptations usually are very horrible...
Apr 25, 2013 6:05 AM

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Guillermo Del Toro... I've heard too many projects from this guy being cancelled to believe this will happen.
Apr 25, 2013 6:07 AM
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Actually like Del Toro's films so I'd be pretty cool with an HBO Series on Monster even though I haven't seen it.
Apr 25, 2013 6:10 AM

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Hmm, quite interesting ;)
Apr 25, 2013 6:11 AM

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ARRRRRRRRRRRGHHHHHHHH GODDAMNIT WHY CAN"T I PUT IT ON MY PLAN-TO-WATCH ON MAL.
Apr 25, 2013 6:15 AM

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Nice, HBO would probably do a good job on this and I will watch the live action show before the anime.
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fanty said:
dankickyou said:
fanty said:
Nidhoeggr said:
I mean, they actually pulled of a reasonable decentl ASOIAF adaption.
You've gotta be kidding me.

In other news, this show is going to be terrible, if it ever actually gets made. So I hope it doesn't.


Game of Thrones is better than your favorite anime.
MAL says we have high anime compatibility, but it looks like you haven't seen my favourite show. And I've actually read the actual ASOIAF books, I know what a "decent" adaptation would have looked like.


Having read the books I can tell you straight that no one would have the resources to make an TV adaption this good besides HBO. And it is good.
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Apr 25, 2013 6:25 AM

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Hopefully, they will convince Urasawa :)
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AOMlNE said:
Knil said:
dankickyou said:
Monster can easily work as live action but since its HBO expect copious amounts of sex scenes. D: Also, who is sexy enough to make a good Johan?

Neil Patrick Harris anyone? :D



Yes please.


No.

He's too old to play Johan.

Johan is what 22-23 at the oldest.

Neil Patrick Harris is nearly 40.

Johan needs to be young, charming and slightly effeminate
for reasons that are important to the plot of the series.

Wonder how they will pull off Johan and Nina being twins?
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Can't wait to see Eva getting fucked left and right.

More seriously, with this, I hope people will see that chinese cartoon aren't just for kids.
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