Kurozuka Episode 12 Discussion
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View Poll Results: Kurozuka Episode 12 Discussion
| 5 out of 5: Loved it! | 31 | 20.13% | |
| 4 out of 5: Liked it | 47 | 30.52% | |
| 3 out of 5: It was OK | 41 | 26.62% | |
| 2 out of 5: Disliked it | 20 | 12.99% | |
| 1 out of 5: Hated it | 15 | 9.74% |
Voters: 154
#81
05-08-10, 8:10 PM
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Offline Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 1482 |
All I can say is that wdf whole series with the time lapse really got frustrated 7/10 for me.  |
#82
05-18-10, 2:36 PM
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Offline Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 94 |
Hmm... I liked it. [9/10] - Art was brilliant. - Plot, well... It's not perfect, but it's rare an anime is that unpredictable where you wtf every second episode. Though I really hate such "funny" elements like the scene with the feces bag. That was unnecessary, in my eyes. - And the OP will stay with all its digital hardcore power. It reminded me a lot of AA=! |
#83
10-27-10, 10:53 AM
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Offline Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 1126 |
Story was interesting, especially the last half of this episode, but the series could've used better directing. =^.^= |
#84
11-27-10, 3:24 AM
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Offline Joined: May 2010 Posts: 1 |
The scene of the forest at the end is a scene of the future, as some have already stated. I think the ending might tie in with a sort of chaos theory/butterfly effect. Very tiny changes over eternity make a huge difference in the long run. Kuro IS getting closer to Kuromitsu with every new attempt. Some serious vampire/eternal deja vu is going on here. Also, remember in the first episode-- when Benkei kills the Red Army guy that was cackling at Kuro and trying to kill him, he completely exploded. If I remember correctly, the other Red Army guys didn't explode. o_O So maybe his soul returned to uh... the cycle. Er, it escaped the cycle. Or whatever. You know what I mean? |: His soul became trapped within Kuro and Kuromitsu's tango and was finally released after thouuusands and thousands of years. The first episode is definitely worth rewatching after finishing the series. How Kuro mentions that they've been fighting for too long, and that he wouldn't mind if Benkei took his head and fled, because the location was suitable... In the last episode, in the "repeat" of the forest, Kuro mentions something seeming familiar to him. He doesn't say that in the first episode. The change in dialogue is something to be noted, most definitely. All in all, I don't think it was an "oh hey that was just a dream lol sorry kids" ending. I don't see how people are perceiving that from the last episode at all. o: I think what happened here is that it was a story that began without an outline beforehand. Sometimes art turns out beautifully without direction, other times it gets kind of lost and muddled and spins wildly out of control. I think that Kuromitsu attached Kuon's body to Kuro and that the forest scene would be the last time he'd have to be decapitated. Hopefully? Poor guy, loses his head too easily. Ahahaha... :D Although, just because I'm a weirdo, I would've loved if Kuromitsu and Kuro lived as just heads. Rolling around and being vampire heads. Maybe in a jar-- maybe they could call themselves Aaroniero. (: I would've loved to see more characterization in this anime-- I really don't know the main characters' personalities too well, or at least not more than I know of the fodder or lesser characters. The characters are really flat, or at least the insight we're given into their personalities is really broad and brief, which is a bit disappointing. I just adored the art style, the horror, the action (do you guys remember early in the series, when Kuro did a headstand on the shoulders of the enemy and slit his throat? epic epic epic), and those random tender moments and pieces of memory that flopped in. I'm going to give it a 8/10 overall. :3 And I hope I didn't confuse anyone more. But I tried to dab the confusion with some unwitty puns so hopefully I'm not too hated. T^T |
#85
12-28-10, 7:56 PM
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Offline Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 3 |
I hope this anime gets licensed so I can buy it. I give it a straight 10! The shear violence, crazy story, insane characters. Man what a ride. Though I watched this when it first came out I decided to comment now. I must buy!!!! |
#86
04-14-11, 9:01 PM
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Offline Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 3 |
6 words to sum up the series my-mind-is-full-of-fuck i thought that this would be a vampire series like hellsing or black blood brothers and it started that way but no it has to get fucked up at the end what is he a vampire ninja zombie samurai in recon armor from fallout? All will bow before the One True King. |
#87
04-24-11, 1:44 AM
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Offline Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 2 |
Ending is kinda weird for me, nothing is really cleared up. The way they ended it seemed like they were trying to make it epic lie some other titles that have done something similar but didn't work out, at least not for me, because it seemed like they did it just to do it. After reading some comments here, I do find it a bit better but still not really. Well, the way I see it. Both Kuro and Kuromitsu cheated on each other in the anime. Kuro had sex with Rai in episode 11 and Kuromitsu with Kuon at an unspecified time. So....all is well.... I think it's a good thing, since now Kuro knows how much he wants Kuromitsu actually. As for sex/cheating that occurred, as far as I can tell only Kuromitsu did it with Kuon but I'm not sure if that was just his delusion or his real memories. Kurou didn't have sex with Rai in the anime, I don't how that can reasonably happen since she just had quite a few holes punctured into her by the monster doctor and had blood all over her, so I would imagine that she would be too weak to do the tango that is unless Kurou went all guro on her... agh. In the manga they did do it, however it wasn't that bad since Kurou didn't do it despite loving Kuromitsu (well maybe a little bit) since he has no real memories of her and didn't know anything about her except her name and that he has this unexplainable compulsion to look for her. He probably just said "fuck this mysterious and elusive woman that I don't know shit about, I'm just gonna fuck this hotass chick that has the hots for me and is right next to me." |
#88
07-11-11, 6:08 PM
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Offline Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 1380 |
I think I understand it....haha. 9/10. |
#89
08-26-11, 11:00 PM
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Offline Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 95 |
7/10 First two episodes were great, than it started to fail and just when i got my hopes back up the ending was just a "WTF are you serious??" moment. |
#90
10-20-11, 9:34 AM
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Offline Joined: Aug 2008 Posts: 333 |
this show was such trash 1/10 from me couldnt stand it since ep 6. |
#91
12-03-11, 1:58 PM
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Offline Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 22 |
I'm a little confused, everything it was only in his mind? it was interesting but I give only 6/10 (are more anime what I like more, sorry) Modified by qazx3, 12-03-11, 2:01 PM |
#92
12-26-12, 8:11 AM
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Offline Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 82 |
should never started watching this... waste of time , why does she cut his head off every time he finds her?? wtf is even goin on did the shit that happened in the beginning really happen???? |
#93
04-30-13, 2:57 AM
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Offline Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 17 |
I have to be honest, while I really did like the series, I didn't really understand what the hell was going on. I thought that maybe I didn't pay enough attention while watching and maybe missed something so I'm glad that I'm not the only one to be confused. I wasn't sure if it was because she said "I have your body" that maybe she had his old body, his first body and that's why he would remember everything again...? Every time he remembered something in his other lives, he always thought of it as a dream...I also remember in the very first episode, he mentioned having Deja'vu so I was thinking that maybe the Deja'vu that he had was him simply seeing into the future or something? I wasn't quite sure... |
#94
05-06-13, 5:29 PM
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Offline Joined: Sep 2012 Posts: 46 |
SilentPredator03 said: Let me preface this by saying this is what I got out of it and not definitive. This is from a combination of the series and reading the manga. DeathfireD said: I'm also a bit confused as to what actually happened towards the end where Kuro shows up in the city before it's destroyed, running from the red army. Was that just a random flashback to show how the city got fucked up in the first place? I don't think it was a flashback, but rather a flash forward. When you see Kurou wake up, he looks upon the city that is completely rebuilt. Add to that the fact that in the following clips we get a quick glimpse of the Red Emperor (Benkei) ordering them to find and kill Kuromitsu. Now he lifts his hand up briefly and you can see just how much it has shriveled - showing that he's aged even more after the time we see him meeting with Kuromitsu. Afterall, he gained immortality and Kurou didn't cut his head off after their duel. I think this point is just to show that the cycle of Kurou and Kuromitsu meeting and running from their pursuers is endless. Also what was the point of Kuon's body? Was it really just a replacement for Kuro's body? If so why? Is his head the only thing that doesn't age? Kuon was created specifically for Kurou - as he needs to replace his body every 100 years or so. The reason Kurou has to change bodies every 100 years is because when he drank Kuromitsu's blood, Benkei chopped his head off before the blood could finish mixing. Kuon is actually a 'complete' immortal like Kuromitsu. She created him in hopes that giving Kurou an immortal body would eliminate the need for him to switch bodies. It's not that his body doesn't age, it's just that it can't take the constant damage and regeneration. After awhile it begins to weaken until he can't move anymore. I can see from the very end that they did not actually "go back in time" since there was buildings destroyed all around the forest that Kuro and Benkei where in. I can only guess that this is a never ending cycle that Kuro and Kuromitsu created into order to survive and keep their relationship fresh. Not so much to keep their relationship fresh as it is a necessity of Kurou switching bodies. As she is being pursued, Kuromitsu can't exactly wait around for Kurou to finish joining to his new body and she has faith in him that he'll find her. Also the evil old guy was still not explained other then he wanted Kuromitsu dead... The 'evil old guy' is Benkei. He was jealous of Kurou for his relationship with Kuromitsu. He betrayed Kurou to the group that was chasing them at the time and found out that Kuromitsu is immortal. He spends the next 1000 years chasing her so that he could tell her his feelings. A little bit crazy and obsessive? Yeah, but look what she did to Koun. This is a woman who has a great power over men. Overall, the 'ending' is left up for the viewer to decide. Was it a dream? Possibly, but the destroyed landscape around the jungle suggests not. good explanation! and i loved how Etiki linked this with chaos theory! i felt sad because of poor Kuro. he wanted to die and end the never ending cycle but selfish Kuromitsu actually doesn't care about this and wants him forever by her side. but again i guess her love was so strong... this was one of the masterpieces for me and that opening is fantastic <3 Modified by sorashika, 05-06-13, 5:41 PM |