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| 5 out of 5: Loved it! | 271 | 80.90% | |
| 4 out of 5: Liked it | 44 | 13.13% | |
| 3 out of 5: It was OK | 12 | 3.58% | |
| 2 out of 5: Disliked it | 4 | 1.19% | |
| 1 out of 5: Hated it | 4 | 1.19% |
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#41
12-26-08, 3:51 PM
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noteDhero said: Cloud1234 said: noteDhero said: Well, that was a meaningful ending, but...the ends just don't justify the means for me. This season was a practical copycat of last season, and, figuratively I get it, but everything was just so dramatically predictable that this show really lost its impact. Everyone except fore Yuuko and, technically, Himura get a happy ending, and pretty bows get tied to all of the plot lines. I was just particularly underwhelmed by what was a pretty good show in Memories. I don't know...this show will probably get somewhere between a 4-6, I'll just have to sleep on it. So it was predictable that Amamiya will burn himself. It was predictable that Yuko will die in a car accident. It was predictable how all the characters were chained together. If Yuko and Himura will actually meet and what will they say was predictable. What ever if you can read the future thats fine for you. Anyways i loved this season as well. Another unique creation that follows Memories steps. It completes the 1st season so match. It was really well-made. The animation the music the openings the endings.Everything. I loved Yuuko so much.Im amazed at how much the character development was in only 12 eps.Well anyways i gave it 9/10. Really nice. PS> At the ending of final ep When Himura broke the nails and left himself free i got the chills. It was predictable because, generally, it was the same structure as Memories. Yuuko was clearly dead in Memories, so when the scene came around in Melodies, I knew she was going to get hit by a car, it was almost shot for shot from Rumbling Hearts. I said so in the discussion there if you don't believe me. Amamiya had to die, but did I know he was going to die in a fire...no. All the characters were linked together from the beginning in Memories, so no, it's not predictable, it's just an established fact. Nothing Yuuko or Himura said to each other was at all original. The gist of the converstation was, "Here's the gift I couldn't give to you, but you gave me the gift of loving you, and now I'm alright now that you're dead...I just had to say that to you." Not at all original. I can't read the future, but what is overdone is overdone. What I liked about Memories is that it was rather daring in how they presented the show, especially concerning direction, lenses, and perspective. But there were too many times in Melodies where I was saying to myself "that's just like this scene in Memories, or this storyline in Melodies really feels the same as this storyline in Memories." As I said, that may have been the goal from the beginning to parallel Himura's vision of creating the city in Austrailia, but it definitely was at the behest of having a fresh story, and fresh visuals. Don't feel the same as you noteDhero but I understand your point. Then again shouldn't this parallel thing you mentioned essential to making Melodies work with Memories. I don't think it would work out otherwise. please report all angel999 duplicate accounts to the mods asap |
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12-26-08, 4:03 PM
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sniW said: Loved this scene: Sort of a bittersweet ending for Himura and Yuuko: Me too !!! *___* And Mizuki is really pretty in this dress !! <3 (i'm so happy about Kuze ! He succeed in his challenge !) An excellent end for Ef ... a lot of sadness (Yuuko T___T) but i love the final message of Ef, the Hope ! Ef is just great ! A fabulous romantic-drama !    |
#44
12-26-08, 5:24 PM
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Wonderful ending, wonder if there will be a third season?  "For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have everlasting life." John 3:16 My Youtube | The Underrated Anime Club |
#45
12-26-08, 7:39 PM
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slayer545-sama said: noteDhero said: Cloud1234 said: noteDhero said: Well, that was a meaningful ending, but...the ends just don't justify the means for me. This season was a practical copycat of last season, and, figuratively I get it, but everything was just so dramatically predictable that this show really lost its impact. Everyone except fore Yuuko and, technically, Himura get a happy ending, and pretty bows get tied to all of the plot lines. I was just particularly underwhelmed by what was a pretty good show in Memories. I don't know...this show will probably get somewhere between a 4-6, I'll just have to sleep on it. So it was predictable that Amamiya will burn himself. It was predictable that Yuko will die in a car accident. It was predictable how all the characters were chained together. If Yuko and Himura will actually meet and what will they say was predictable. What ever if you can read the future thats fine for you. Anyways i loved this season as well. Another unique creation that follows Memories steps. It completes the 1st season so match. It was really well-made. The animation the music the openings the endings.Everything. I loved Yuuko so much.Im amazed at how much the character development was in only 12 eps.Well anyways i gave it 9/10. Really nice. PS> At the ending of final ep When Himura broke the nails and left himself free i got the chills. It was predictable because, generally, it was the same structure as Memories. Yuuko was clearly dead in Memories, so when the scene came around in Melodies, I knew she was going to get hit by a car, it was almost shot for shot from Rumbling Hearts. I said so in the discussion there if you don't believe me. Amamiya had to die, but did I know he was going to die in a fire...no. All the characters were linked together from the beginning in Memories, so no, it's not predictable, it's just an established fact. Nothing Yuuko or Himura said to each other was at all original. The gist of the converstation was, "Here's the gift I couldn't give to you, but you gave me the gift of loving you, and now I'm alright now that you're dead...I just had to say that to you." Not at all original. I can't read the future, but what is overdone is overdone. What I liked about Memories is that it was rather daring in how they presented the show, especially concerning direction, lenses, and perspective. But there were too many times in Melodies where I was saying to myself "that's just like this scene in Memories, or this storyline in Melodies really feels the same as this storyline in Memories." As I said, that may have been the goal from the beginning to parallel Himura's vision of creating the city in Austrailia, but it definitely was at the behest of having a fresh story, and fresh visuals. Don't feel the same as you noteDhero but I understand your point. Then again shouldn't this parallel thing you mentioned essential to making Melodies work with Memories. I don't think it would work out otherwise. Yeah, that was just an assumption. I really do think that this feeling of parallel-ness or sameness between the two is intentional, but for me it feel more rehash than nostalgic i guess. |
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12-26-08, 7:44 PM
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Great episode, though I was hoping he would get with Nagi in the end T__T. All the mods fucking blow on this website except Kaiserpingvin, Cloudy-Sky, Baman and aero. PM me if you're actually good and I left you out. Oh, rule 8... (￣ー￣) |
#47
12-26-08, 10:26 PM
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Such a bittersweet end to a beautiful series. It kind of annoys me though because Kuze and Misuki got their happy ending, but yet Yuu Yuuko did not. |
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12-27-08, 3:23 AM
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It's not really a bad ending for Yuu and Yuuko ... even if Yuuko is died (T___T), she finally seen Yuu ! Zig-sama said: Wonderful ending, wonder if there will be a third season? No, i don't want ! D= ... this end is excellent ! One or two oav, it's ok (like a little bonus lol), but a third season, in my opinion, it's a bad idea ! Moreover, it can't be possible because Melodies is the end of the Ef circle. But we can hope a future adaptation of the new Minori's game : Eden ^__^ |
#49
12-27-08, 3:34 AM
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Wishy said: Simply amazing. nuff said |
#50
12-27-08, 4:05 AM
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An amazing series, and a great sequel. Earns a 10 from me. |
#51
12-27-08, 8:18 AM
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10/10 I liked this season much better than the first, although it was very sad. Yuuko was my favourite, followed closely by Miki. There's something odd though with Miki, like she doesn't remember Himura or Kuze from when she was a kid (and neither do they?) that was odd. My gallery: http://picasaweb.google.com/hikaritokyo/AnimeEfATaleOfMelodies Btw I don't agree with the whole "be strong and live on..", if you love someone that much, you shall cherish and miss her forever, no point in moving on without her. Modified by Kotori, 12-27-08, 8:29 AM |
#52
12-27-08, 9:51 AM
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I thought it was pretty good. not exactly an amazing last episode but still good. I'll give this anime a 7.8/10 my main complaint about it was the way Yuuko died.  |
#53
12-27-08, 7:23 PM
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Beautifully beautiful. i personally thought the ending was sad at the end of the episode, but it turned out to be good. and the few sayings after the japanese op song made it even better. planning for rewatch soon. |
#54
12-27-08, 11:14 PM
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noteDhero said: slayer545-sama said: noteDhero said: Cloud1234 said: noteDhero said: Well, that was a meaningful ending, but...the ends just don't justify the means for me. This season was a practical copycat of last season, and, figuratively I get it, but everything was just so dramatically predictable that this show really lost its impact. Everyone except fore Yuuko and, technically, Himura get a happy ending, and pretty bows get tied to all of the plot lines. I was just particularly underwhelmed by what was a pretty good show in Memories. I don't know...this show will probably get somewhere between a 4-6, I'll just have to sleep on it. So it was predictable that Amamiya will burn himself. It was predictable that Yuko will die in a car accident. It was predictable how all the characters were chained together. If Yuko and Himura will actually meet and what will they say was predictable. What ever if you can read the future thats fine for you. Anyways i loved this season as well. Another unique creation that follows Memories steps. It completes the 1st season so match. It was really well-made. The animation the music the openings the endings.Everything. I loved Yuuko so much.Im amazed at how much the character development was in only 12 eps.Well anyways i gave it 9/10. Really nice. PS> At the ending of final ep When Himura broke the nails and left himself free i got the chills. It was predictable because, generally, it was the same structure as Memories. Yuuko was clearly dead in Memories, so when the scene came around in Melodies, I knew she was going to get hit by a car, it was almost shot for shot from Rumbling Hearts. I said so in the discussion there if you don't believe me. Amamiya had to die, but did I know he was going to die in a fire...no. All the characters were linked together from the beginning in Memories, so no, it's not predictable, it's just an established fact. Nothing Yuuko or Himura said to each other was at all original. The gist of the converstation was, "Here's the gift I couldn't give to you, but you gave me the gift of loving you, and now I'm alright now that you're dead...I just had to say that to you." Not at all original. I can't read the future, but what is overdone is overdone. What I liked about Memories is that it was rather daring in how they presented the show, especially concerning direction, lenses, and perspective. But there were too many times in Melodies where I was saying to myself "that's just like this scene in Memories, or this storyline in Melodies really feels the same as this storyline in Memories." As I said, that may have been the goal from the beginning to parallel Himura's vision of creating the city in Austrailia, but it definitely was at the behest of having a fresh story, and fresh visuals. Don't feel the same as you noteDhero but I understand your point. Then again shouldn't this parallel thing you mentioned essential to making Melodies work with Memories. I don't think it would work out otherwise. Yeah, that was just an assumption. I really do think that this feeling of parallel-ness or sameness between the two is intentional, but for me it feel more rehash than nostalgic i guess. I think both series where originally supposed to air together. That would explain why they feel almost the exact same. The second season, in my opinion, was too rushed and less artistic and emotional then the first one. It really was predictable for the most part. They used a lot of generic things from other popular romance dramas which I found strange considering the first season was more original and more shocking. I felt way more emotions in the first one then in this one. This episode in particular was way rushed and felt out of place. I was expecting them to pick up from where they left off in the last episode and explain what Mizuki wrote on the paper. In staid it felt like we where missing a whole episode's worth of content. The ending was indeed touching...I just wish they spent more time on the rest of the series. I still think the first season was the best and don't plan on changing my mind. BTW. Yuuko was born in 1982 and Yuu is Yuuko's sempi so we can guess that Kuze is 27 and Mizuki is turning 18 (Kuze says "next year Mizuki will be an adult."). Thats way to much of an age difference for me. Totally destroyed any hope of my accepting their relationship. |
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12-28-08, 12:01 AM
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I don't really see anything wrong with the age difference between Mizuki and Kuze. Anyway, great ending episode. What I really loved the most about this episode, and episode 11 is how they brought together the plots from memories and melodies. Plus, I just loved how they changed the videos. It's not as good as the first season, but it's still getting a 9/10 from me.  |
#56
12-28-08, 3:35 AM
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and that ends of the whole Ef series. can't say there wasn't any boring bits (in the middle of the series), but this is certainly awesome XD |
#57
12-28-08, 4:59 AM
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"Two becomes One Forever, throughout all eternity." I bawled Q_____Q Anime fan ≠ Otaku. Educate yourselves. |
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12-28-08, 11:23 PM
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A beautiful ending for an awesome series~! It's the show that I most enjoyed this anime season 10/10. x3 |
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12-29-08, 2:18 PM
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And so ends the ef series. Not as good as the first season, but nevertheless a great ending.  I take icon requests. "If I must die, I will encounter darkness as a bride and hug it in mine arms." -William Shakespeare |
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12-30-08, 3:33 AM
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@ Deathfired Well i can accept as a couple (Cause i know 3 cases like that) but i just cant accept that thay can possible fell in love that much... And what regards predictable or overused "moments". Im dont watch emotional anime in general. If you take out Kanon i dont remember anything similar to Yuukos Death. I was amazed by the first season and so i was be the second. I cant think clearly now cause i just finished melodies and it still affects me.Mayve memories is better but i still likes both of them. I appreciate that the animation and the music was as good as the first season and that they explained something that they didnt in the first. So if you watch that many of emotional animes you might found it predictable or boring dunno. For me it was neither of that.Just an awesome anime that made me wanna watch each ep right after the other.And i had to do that a long time now. Ps> That yuuko will die was a fact. We knew that from the first season. That amamiya would die was the same. I mean he wasnt reffered at all at first season so its logical. The thing is to watch how. And dont kid me in a fair amount of animes its quite easy to tell whos gonna die and whos gonna live. The thing is to surprize you.I believe Himura will kill him not that he will commit suicide by burning himself. |
