| What about a Dropping Achievement? Since there's one for Zero Dropped has ever been considered one for more than 100 dropped series? |
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KuroMayKami said: What about a Dropping Achievement? Since there's one for Zero Dropped has ever been considered one for more than 100 dropped series? Deciding to stop watching a lot of anime (for whatever reason) is an unusual event, so why not get some sort of recognition for it? It's trivial, but I'd consider it as an achievement, along with the ones for studios/prolific creators/whatever else I've forgotten. If it did become one it would probably have levels like 25/50/75/100 or a similar staggered amount. I'd probably never qualify for the final level, since I've forced myself to finish anything I've started now. Yes, even Pupa, ugh. Although I remember one of the admins saying that they weren't considering any new achievements. That makes me sad. |
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KuroMayKami said: What about a Dropping Achievement? Since there's one for Zero Dropped has ever been considered one for more than 100 dropped series? I second this motion, if only because I am vain. |
ZodiacBeast said: Although I remember one of the admins saying that they weren't considering any new achievements. That makes me sad. It really is sad, there are still lots of good achievements possible. But isn't that something the MALgraph staff and not the MyAnimeList Aministrators do? |
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KuroMayKami said: ZodiacBeast said: Although I remember one of the admins saying that they weren't considering any new achievements. That makes me sad. It really is sad, there are still lots of good achievements possible. But isn't that something the MALgraph staff and not the MyAnimeList Aministrators do? Sorry for the misunderstanding, but I meant one of the head honchos of MALgraph. fri said: I'm afraid we're very close to the upper limit of number of achievements, and adding any more would ruin it. We're set to adding Space one for anime, but that would be all. Thanks for the suggestions though. |
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ZodiacBeast said: KuroMayKami said: ZodiacBeast said: Although I remember one of the admins saying that they weren't considering any new achievements. That makes me sad. It really is sad, there are still lots of good achievements possible. But isn't that something the MALgraph staff and not the MyAnimeList Aministrators do? Sorry for the misunderstanding, but I meant one of the head honchos of MALgraph. fri said: I'm afraid we're very close to the upper limit of number of achievements, and adding any more would ruin it. We're set to adding Space one for anime, but that would be all. Thanks for the suggestions though. Ah, OK. Thanks for the clarification. fri says "and adding any more would ruin it" so perhaps it's not a limit decided by the staff but by the website itself. |
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KuroMayKami said: Ah, OK. Thanks for the clarification. fri says "and adding any more would ruin it" so perhaps it's not a limit decided by the staff but by the website itself. &%$*, I didn't think about that. I just assumed that more achievements would be hard to manage, or make more people just focus on getting achievements instead of watching and enjoying anime/manga. Wait...wouldn't that last point happen anyways? ARGH. Anyways, the only achievements I can really think of to contribute (if they ever added any) are one based on how many you've dropped and those based on certain studios/authors/franchises. I think that ones based on studios/authors/franchises would be hard to manage because the levels would vary between achievements, but they would probably just go for 25/50/75/100% of the total number of works contained within. |
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| I wonder why Dragonball isn't considered GAR, but Fate/Stay Night o_O I'm missing a Sports anime achievement... There are so many of them. |
Marloges said: I'm missing a Sports anime achievement... There are so many of them. Indeed, I haven't watched many Sports anime myself but there are tons of them so an Achievement would be very popular. |
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dkr said: Marloges said: I wonder why Dragonball isn't considered GAR, but Fate/Stay Night o_O I'm missing a Sports anime achievement... There are so many of them. The first usage of the term "GAR" was in reference to Archer (aka "GARcher") from Fate/Stay Night. Okay, but I don't get why Dragonball isn't on this list. I mean Son Goku is the manliest man of all men >:O |
buwie said: I'm secretly aiming for the mecha achievements...well it's not secret now XD AND I sooo want that Sleep Deprivation achievement for manga. Hell I want them all for manga.>:) what is the sleep deprivation achievements? |
"Urushibara Ruka. The mannerisms and voice of a woman... No... More feminine than any woman. But he's a guy. Taller than Mayuri, but so very thin... But he's a guy. Looks great in a miko outfit... But he's a guy. It's already twilight And yet, it's so hot. The cicadas are crying. But... He's a guy." |
Bheaze said: https://github.com/rr-/malgraph4/wiki/Achievementsbuwie said: I'm secretly aiming for the mecha achievements...well it's not secret now XD AND I sooo want that Sleep Deprivation achievement for manga. Hell I want them all for manga.>:) what is the sleep deprivation achievements? It's 5,000 titles completed. |
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| I think zettai bouei leviathan should be in mahou shoujo http://myanimelist.net/anime/17681/Zettai_Bouei_Leviathan |
 If it ever gets lower than that, consider me dead. |
NSD said: Marloges said: I wonder why Dragonball isn't considered GAR, but Fate/Stay Night o_O I'm missing a Sports anime achievement... There are so many of them. Because dragon ball is for kids. Kodomo anime can't be GAR. Hmm, this argument doesn't work due the fact that Beelzebub is considered GAR as well :/ |
flammeur said: I think zettai bouei leviathan should be in mahou shoujo http://myanimelist.net/anime/17681/Zettai_Bouei_Leviathan While they do transform and (some of them) use magic, it's more monster girl than magical girl. Really bad monster girl, but nonetheless. |
| I want an ecchi achievement. |
DarkMorpher said: Probably because of this.Why D.Grayman is in the History class achievement list? "Towards the end of the 19th century" |
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| Hey guys. First of all, thanks for the hard work, as always. So I'm sure this must have been brought before, but since the history achievements I keep thinking what other genres could diserve an achievement, something niche but popular, with more than a hundred titles to be doable. I hadn't find anything until recently, but now I think the sports genre really fits the bill. Hope you guys will think about it. |
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| Maybe add the JoJo's Bizarre Adventure franchise under Historical? It has all kinds of historical elements (mostly Nazi era stuff) and the internal timeline seems to be kept quite consistent with actual dates. |
| Missing titles in Mahou Shoujo (Anime) achievements: http://myanimelist.net/anime/112/Cosprayers http://myanimelist.net/anime/765/Cosprayers_Specials http://myanimelist.net/anime/705/Cosprayers_the_Movie |
| Missing titles in manga-long-runner achievements: http://myanimelist.net/manga/10010/Beelzebub http://myanimelist.net/manga/7519/Kami_nomi_zo_Shiru_Sekai http://myanimelist.net/manga/8144/Sora_no_Otoshimono |
| Missing titles in Mahou Shoujo (Anime) achievements: http://myanimelist.net/anime/1567/Kaitou_Saint_Tail http://myanimelist.net/anime/2834/Miracle_Girls |
EratiK said: Hey guys. First of all, thanks for the hard work, as always. So I'm sure this must have been brought before, but since the history achievements I keep thinking what other genres could diserve an achievement, something niche but popular, with more than a hundred titles to be doable. I hadn't find anything until recently, but now I think the sports genre really fits the bill. Hope you guys will think about it. Why not have a ridiculous genre achievement (like the Boku no Pico achievement) with Hentai? Since most hentai are around 2-3 episodes long, the first ranking can be 40 series, then 60, 80 and finally 100. |
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| As explained on the Moderator page, we can't do this. Here's why: The AdSense rules don't allow us to show ads if the page has questionable content. Achievements for this genre would most likely need some suggestive images and text, which would put us in an undesirable situation. That's why we banned lewd genres across MALgraph, except for BnP achievement, which balances on the edge. By the way, fri updated achievement lists with most of the titles posted here since 2014-01-26. Some entries didn't need to be put on the list, since their genre on MAL works its magic itself. Thank you for helping us! Changes can be seen here: https://github.com/rr-/malgraph4/commit/f3dd14b82175e61375a355ed6da4aedb7669c282 |
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rr- said: As explained on the Moderator page, we can't do this. Here's why: The AdSense rules don't allow us to show ads if the page has questionable content. Achievements for this genre would most likely need some suggestive images and text, which would put us in an undesirable situation. That's why we banned lewd genres across MALgraph, except for BnP achievement, which balances on the edge. By the way, fri updated achievement lists with most of the titles posted here since 2014-01-26. Some entries didn't need to be put on the list, since their genre on MAL works its magic itself. Thank you for helping us! Changes can be seen here: https://github.com/rr-/malgraph4/commit/f3dd14b82175e61375a355ed6da4aedb7669c282 Oh, didn't know that. If that's so, maybe we could have achievements for the 4 major demographics; Shoujo, Shonen, Josei and Seinen. Maybe an achievement for Psychological/Thriller combo would also work. |
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| Are absolutely all of those GAR? We can't add everything, after all. Besides, you say that they don't fit into any categories but there are clearly some mech shows in there. |
| All of those GAR listed ones have manly individuals as the main characters or teach the main characters. Plus the Vampire Hunter D sequel is in and Exkaiser is from the same franchise as GaoGaiGar (and has friggin Sho Hayami as the titular robot with animation from Masami Obari). I guess I should have mention they don't come up in the GAR category specifically even though they're all mecha too. Based on the response I presume the listed ones with MS and Romance are okay. |
| For Gar: http://myanimelist.net/anime/6090/Hon_Ran Lots of martial arts and male gaze, I also nominate Daimidaler for the category once it stops airing. |
DuelGundam2099 said: Based on the response I presume the listed ones with MS and Romance are okay. I wonder about Mahou Shoujo ones. I'm not familiar with all titles mentioned by you, but Little Witch Academia for instance is not very Mahou Shoujo-ish, not in classical term. I mean, yes, the characters are witches, but there are no staple stuff like transformation, stockage-footage-attacks, winning love by daylight and/or fighting with monsters of the week. I'm also not sure if there is anything MS-ish in Kampfer, but I didn't watch it (as well as the other titles) so I'd prefer someone more "able" to determine that. |
| Blue Submarine No 6, Argento Soma, Betterman, Blue Gender, Casshern, Detonator Orgun, FLCL, Genocyber, Kigurumikku V3, Mai-Hime, MD Geist 1 and 2, Evangelion, Neo Ranga, Plastic Little, Legacium, Toei Robot Girls, and Tekkaman don't fit the bill of "classic" mecha anime or follow most staples, but they are considered in the genre and thus under the mecha achievement. Mahou Shoujo means "magic girl", girls using magical powers. If stuff like Uta Kata and Rayearth, neither which fit those staples either, can be classified as such then the stuff I listed should be okay. At the very least the Pleiades Manner Movie would qualify since the main series is already under the category. |
DuelGundam2099 said: Blue Submarine No 6, Argento Soma, Betterman, Blue Gender, Casshern, Detonator Orgun, FLCL, Genocyber, Kigurumikku V3, Mai-Hime, MD Geist 1 and 2, Evangelion, Neo Ranga, Plastic Little, Legacium, Toei Robot Girls, and Tekkaman don't fit the bill of "classic" mecha anime or follow most staples, but they are considered in the genre and thus under the mecha achievement. Mahou Shoujo means "magic girl", girls using magical powers. If stuff like Uta Kata and Rayearth, neither which fit those staples either, can be classified as such then the stuff I listed should be okay. At the very least the Pleiades Manner Movie would qualify since the main series is already under the category. The thing is, mecha as a genre is a lot more open about what qualifies for it as long as a series' inclusion and integration of mecha suits/frames/whatever is prominent enough in the setting or storyline. It's a genre based on setting elements. Evangelion may not be typical mecha in a number of ways but there's no way anyone who's seen it wouldn't classify it as mecha. Mai-HiME is also not typical mecha, but it's pretty much known as a mahou shoujo series with lots of mecha elements. I'm not too familiar with most of the others you listed there, but of the ones I do know, they seem to have enough mecha elements to fit, even if they're very different in other ways (like plot and character types). Mahou shoujo, on the other hand, needs more than just "girls using magical powers" for it to qualify as such. The genre has a long history of tropes associated to it like transformation scenes, secret identities, monsters of the week/episode, groups of mahou shoujos working together as heroes fighting evil, animal mascot type companions, and so on. A series doesn't need to fit exactly all of that to be mahou shoujo, but it should still have more elements than just "girls using magical powers." Uta-Kata, to use one of the examples you listed, has several of those. Uta-Kata feels very much like a dark, psychological mahou shoujo title, with transformation scenes, monsters of the episode, hidden/secret identities, and other common elements. In contrast, Little Witch Academia, feels like a school life human relations type of story that just so happens to be set in a magic school for witches. "Girls using magical powers" is pretty much the only common element it has. It's been a while since I watched either of them or I could get into more detail in explaining why LWA doesn't really fit the bill and UK does, but hopefully this gives some insight as to why the mahou shoujo genre and mecha genre listings would be treated a little differently from each other. |
| I see your point. With those tropes you listed Devil Hunter Yohko, Dream Hunter Rem, and Witch Craft Works do contain all those elements with Kampfer and Quiz Magic Academy having some of them (specifically transformations and monster fighting with magic use too). |
| Devil Hunter Yohko definitely would. I remember suggesting that for the mahou shoujo category a good while back, but I don't know if it somehow slipped through the cracks. (Sometimes it's hard to tell since they add missing titles to the lists so infrequently.) |
| Any particular reason why the side ovas/movies to legend of galactic heroes aren't included for the GAR anime achievement? http://myanimelist.net/anime/3015/Ginga_Eiyuu_Densetsu_Gaiden:_Ougon_no_Tsubasa http://myanimelist.net/anime/3665/Ginga_Eiyuu_Densetsu_Gaiden:_Rasen_Meikyuu http://myanimelist.net/anime/3371/Ginga_Eiyuu_Densetsu_Gaiden:_Senoku_no_Hoshi_Senoku_no_Hikari http://myanimelist.net/anime/3016/Ginga_Eiyuu_Densetsu:_Arata_Naru_Tatakai_no_Overture http://myanimelist.net/anime/3014/Ginga_Eiyuu_Densetsu:_Waga_Yuku_wa_Hoshi_no_Taikai Also the Afro Samurai movie. http://myanimelist.net/anime/13709/Afro_Samurai_Movie |
pecc said: I was gone for a month or two, so how high were the Romance Manga thresholds hiked this time? I'm not gonna lie, I'm pretty miffed. I used to have level 2 with my 61 titles, now I have nothing at all. Yes, how many Romance manga are necessary to achieve Level 1? 40? Which is the manga achievement that needs less titles? The links in this thread to 'spoil' the achievements do not longer work so I can't see the information there. Edit: I found it, all anime and manga thresholds can be seen here. https://github.com/rr-/malgraph4/tree/master/data/achievements |
KuroMayKamiJul 24, 2014 1:26 PM
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| We could make a music achievement, there are enough anime to qualify for one. |
DuelGundam2099 said: We could make a music achievement, there are enough anime to qualify for one. I second that, but apparently there won't be any new achievements: fri said: I'm afraid we're very close to the upper limit of number of achievements, and adding any more would ruin it. We're set to adding Space one for anime, but that would be all. Thanks for the suggestions though. |
KuroMayKamiJun 12, 2014 3:11 AM
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| These specials are missing in the Historical Achievement: http://myanimelist.net/anime/7083/Hakushaku_to_Yousei_Specials |
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| I agree that romances are way too ubiquitous, but I'm against removing achievements. By the "upper limit" I meant saturation by number of achievements, not the server capacity. With the new queue it can process this stuff without a sweat. I just don't want to have too many badges, because they can become meaningless very quickly. We may add some in the future, but it certainly won't be One Badge For Each Genre. That'd be too many. |
| Now that Daimidaler is over is is safe to say it can go under both GAR and love as it contains significant elements of both categories. |
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