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5 out of 5: Loved it!
 
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4 out of 5: Liked it
 
9 13.85%
3 out of 5: It was OK
 
5 7.69%
2 out of 5: Disliked it
 
4 6.15%
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12-20-08, 10:38 AM

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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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I though episode #11 was bad but this made me so angry that I wanted to do something (most likely killing) to that stupid bitch Kokoro! Aaaargh! Going for smoke I cannot take this episode anymore. Stupid bitch Kokoro. (Sorry about venting but should you have seen this episode you would understand me).

After subs thoughts

Now I know all about Sasayama Kokoro! She send Nomura for what? Guess? I will give you a hint before I give out my answer: it's about those who talk too much called "Big Mouths". Ok here it is: Sasayama Kokoro send Nomura cause the bitch just was afraid he would tell the whole town about her and her attempt to commit suicide. Lame, lame, lame, lame, lame! That is the stupidest reason to send someone. Let's see why.

Sasayama Kokoro was going with this guy Ryuu right? Then she said to Nomura after her saves her from her suicide that this guy Ryuu has three other girls. Why did Sasayama Kokoro not send him to hell? Why not send him? Is Sasayama Kokoro stupid b**** who wants sex with her body and cares for nothing else but hedonistic things among having the hottest guy around to you have intercourse? I mean it's obvious from the situation(maybe not the intercourse but who knows really).

Poor, poor Nozomi she never gets to go out with Nomura cause of Sasayama Kokoro. She should go to hell seriously right now!

Message: when someone tries to commit suicide do not help them cause they might curse you. Great stupid message BTW. I know there are perhaps other meanings but this the most spoon fed one that is obvious in this episode. Now zzzzzzzz maybe write more soon.

My two cents
1.Ok, Sasayama Kokoro send Nomura cause of this? Aho baka Onna deska?
2.If this is true then you should send Ryuu to hell! Aho Onna!
3.Sasayama Kokoro should have sent this guy and now have being being the demons sex slave.
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12-20-08, 1:27 PM

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Oh how I loled! Feel sorry for that kid, oh well at least he went to hell in coolest way so far imo.
 
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12-20-08, 2:00 PM

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T0sh1k1 said:
Oh how I loled! Feel sorry for that kid, oh well at least he went to hell in coolest way so far imo.


Yeah but come on! He did try to save that b**** and he had a girlfriend so he would not care about the love. I hoped the gf would send her but guess :O not!
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12-21-08, 12:15 AM

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this episode is the best artistic episode so far in mitsuganae.. the comical portrayal is creative and fun.. it does look a bit cheap, but nevertheless it's new and different.

about the story, i really wasn't all that surprised anymore that the guy was the one sent after watching the first quarter of this series.. but the plot was really fun and interesting..

it portrays very vividly and accurately the problems that teens face.. and thank god we dont have to see yuzuki's transformation again ^^

the only think i didnt like about this episode was kokoro.. but that's the purpose of this episode i think.. XD besides, she's cursed with the tattoo.. well, nothing else to say about kokoro but BI*CH

looks like episode 13 will start talking about the reason Ai returned.. waku waku!!!
and more yuzuki pls! oh ya, after this episode, it's clear that the new director is trying to insert ecchi elements into the series.. (hint: yuzuki & ice cream) a bit weird, but still moe~ XD
 
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12-23-08, 12:59 PM

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slayer545-sama said:
T0sh1k1 said:
Oh how I loled! Feel sorry for that kid, oh well at least he went to hell in coolest way so far imo.


Yeah but come on! He did try to save that b**** and he had a girlfriend so he would not care about the love. I hoped the gf would send her but guess :O not!
Well he didn't deserved to be sent to hell but what he has done are not right either.

Beside, I am agree with lonehunter88 that this episode has done a lot of interesting things in a creative way.

 
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12-23-08, 1:24 PM

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Siva said:
slayer545-sama said:
T0sh1k1 said:
Oh how I loled! Feel sorry for that kid, oh well at least he went to hell in coolest way so far imo.


Yeah but come on! He did try to save that b**** and he had a girlfriend so he would not care about the love. I hoped the gf would send her but guess :O not!
Well he didn't deserved to be sent to hell but what he has done are not right either.

Beside, I am agree with lonehunter88 that this episode has done a lot of interesting things in a creative way.


Yes, agree with you as well but he did not do anything not right. He never told about his sticking stickers unto the bikini woman poster.

This episode screams: UNFAIR and ANGER!
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12-23-08, 2:24 PM

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The Hell part was the best out of the 3 seasons easily, and the episode in itself was really well-done. I expected a very good one, and I wasn't disapointed, it's probably the most inventive and interesting of the season so far. DEEN has really done a good job in the last two episodes ! But it seems that the next one will be great too, finally a true plot in this season...

In every age, in every place, the deeds of men remain the same.
 
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12-23-08, 4:19 PM

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Haha, best way to die in any season so far!
 
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12-23-08, 4:43 PM

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I thought the plot for this episode was stupid... plus, I hated the guy in this one. He's a creepy perv, using stickers on that poster -_-

But Kokoro was the creepiest one. Her reason for sending that dude to hell is really stupid, considering it's HER fault in the first place that he knows. *shakes head*

I'm looking forward to the next one; judging by the preview, the REAL plot of this season is unraveling. I hope it won't disappoint!

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12-23-08, 4:49 PM

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that was pretty much wrong. for all intents and purposes he was innocent. ultimately up till you pull the string. hes torture scenes were pretty funny though.

i think the real issue is that too many people are aware of the hell girl system. its probably not something people are suppose to know about.

i still think this is a soul harvest mechanism than an actual means of granting grudges. because there is no restriction at all as to how or who you can send to hell. i am still waiting to see why Enma came back in the first place. as far as i could tell she broke away from her punishment last season.
 
12-23-08, 5:51 PM

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slayer545-sama said:

This episode screams: UNFAIR and ANGER!


if you didnt realize, from the very first season, the theme of the series is Unfairness and Anger/Grudges.. Enma Ai being burried alive was Unfair and her Anger cursed her to (almost)eternal despair..

the Hell Line was never made to justify anything.. it has always been a tool of hatred.. As for Kokoro, her personality is just too weird.. if she's so afraid about being told on, she should just try and jump of the bridge again ^^;; or probably she was expecting some other guy to save her that time (the four-timer bastard maybe).. either ways, she has her own curse to worry about now..

kisami said:

i think the real issue is that too many people are aware of the hell girl system. its probably not something people are suppose to know about.

i still think this is a soul harvest mechanism than an actual means of granting grudges. because there is no restriction at all as to how or who you can send to hell. i am still waiting to see why Enma came back in the first place. as far as i could tell she broke away from her punishment last season.


well, in the age of technology, it's quite inevitable.. but in a way, it's good thing for ai, since she gets more requests.

actually there is a restriction to who u can send to hell.. it must be someone you hate.. in the first season the restrictions were much looser, but starting from the second season, ai used a different approach (using her subordinates to spy on the client).. it seems like the system is still used in mitsuganae.. enma will only accept requests which are based on grudges..
 
12-23-08, 9:08 PM

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yea, this season is about good ppl get to die for no reason. nevertheless, good ep, I bet the next one would be hella awesome, finally get to the main plot
 
12-23-08, 9:28 PM

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Hahaha. That Hell sequence was hilarious and unexpected. xD

Looking forward to the next episode; seems we'll be getting some main plot stuff.


 
12-23-08, 10:20 PM

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This was probably the most creative episode in the Jigoku Shoujo seasons. I loved the Manga-style that they used for all of the art. It was very cool. Nomura was interesting too and I found him with his stickers on the poster to be hilarious. It was original. He even made Nozumi hot with the big boobs haha. And I agree with some of the posters above, thank goodness we didn't see stupid Yuzuki's transformation!
 
12-23-08, 10:45 PM

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lonehunter88 said:
slayer545-sama said:

This episode screams: UNFAIR and ANGER!


if you didnt realize, from the very first season, the theme of the series is Unfairness and Anger/Grudges.. Enma Ai being burried alive was Unfair and her Anger cursed her to (almost)eternal despair..

the Hell Line was never made to justify anything.. it has always been a tool of hatred.. As for Kokoro, her personality is just too weird.. if she's so afraid about being told on, she should just try and jump of the bridge again ^^;; or probably she was expecting some other guy to save her that time (the four-timer bastard maybe).. either ways, she has her own curse to worry about now..

kisami said:

i think the real issue is that too many people are aware of the hell girl system. its probably not something people are suppose to know about.

i still think this is a soul harvest mechanism than an actual means of granting grudges. because there is no restriction at all as to how or who you can send to hell. i am still waiting to see why Enma came back in the first place. as far as i could tell she broke away from her punishment last season.


well, in the age of technology, it's quite inevitable.. but in a way, it's good thing for ai, since she gets more requests.

actually there is a restriction to who u can send to hell.. it must be someone you hate.. in the first season the restrictions were much looser, but starting from the second season, ai used a different approach (using her subordinates to spy on the client).. it seems like the system is still used in mitsuganae.. enma will only accept requests which are based on grudges..


Yes, that's true but I still found more unfair and filled with anger than other episodes and in fact it really made me angry this episode for some reason.
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12-23-08, 11:07 PM

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Great episode maybe not the most hate filled reasons to send someone to hell but i was so pissed that it happened and i liked the whole scene at the end very creative way to do very impressed with it, now it looks like possibly the next episode is going to maybe show a little more into a actual storyline then what the first 12 episodes have been
 
12-24-08, 10:30 AM

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I liked this episode. I've liked pretty much all the episodes so far.

I feel kind of sorry for him though.

the hell scene was very original.
 
12-24-08, 10:38 AM

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hirahira said:
I liked this episode. I've liked pretty much all the episodes so far.

I feel kind of sorry for him though.

the hell scene was very original.


Ok, I will agreed with you. Hell scene was different and refreshing in art form.
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12-24-08, 10:49 AM

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Kokoro was just a brainless bitch. Really, send a guy to hell because he saved you and his nice to you? WTF?

Also i saw a little ecchi in there Yuzuki with ice cream and the whole bikini sexy manga thing.
Nozomi really looked beautiful with out the classes.

Anyway the whole thing was unfair but the guy did had it coming for him since he was trying to send people to hell for stupid reasons. For some reason i fount paper Emma Ai looking more scary than her anime self.
I also agree with the others that it was a good fact that we didn't had another Yuzuki transformation scene.
 
12-25-08, 12:15 PM

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I couldnt stop laughing through all the paperdoll secuence, specially the part with the stappler, it's just too funny. Good episode, with the new season's theme it's almost impossible to predict who is going to hell.
 
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