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| I loved the last scene. I had the feeling it was Haruka on the painting after she started to wear yellow half way through the series. Overall I enjoyed the series, but it left me disappointed. Di-Dorval said: Rahxephon seems to lacks this unifying direction. It's just a story about some dude that wanted to play god (maybe he wanted to unify the mu and the humains but people motivations are never made clear) and in the end his actions only help the love story of Kamina. It was pretty good but I just can't see how it can be better than EVA. I give it 7/10. Agree with this. Rah imitates Eva so much, but lacks the psychological and symbolical depth of it. In the end I was left with an empty feeling, as I don't see the point of the series aside from it trying to be Eva's twin. |
| A good ending to a good series. Even though the plot was basically about an individual with a 'god complex', the heart of the entire show is about a genuinely heart touching love story. The plot was confusing, some of the characters should have been utilised more (or less). But hell, the ending episodes made up for most of it. 8.5/10 |
Kagami_Hiiragi said: Idc if you think its weird, I have a life and friends and an income of money. |
| so what the fvck happened to Itsuki, did Ayato and Itsuki become one? |
blessofcurse said: so what the fvck happened to Itsuki, did Ayato and Itsuki become one? No, when Ayato tuned the world he kind of bridged the gap in time between Tokyo Jupiter and the rest of Earth while also completely reinventing the world. Ayato and Haruka are now the same age and he now just happens to resemble Itsuki. As for Itsuki himself, his fate is ambiguous as with most other characters, but it can be assumed that since the ending of the series is all about the redemptive power of love, that anyone who managed to show some sincerity and true empathy for Ayato prevailing through all of the rough patches of the series was spared and recreated into the new world once all of their boundaries of indifference and alienation were taken out of the picture leaving them less inclined to bare so much animosity and allowing all of their kindness to blossom in full. I forget how Itsuki's relationship with Ayato was nearing the end, but he may have been spared or maybe not; at the end of the day it is all about Ayato's journey and triumph in finally having the means to rekindle his love with Haruka and create a world where they can live harmoniously and being reborn into his world is his means of showing thanks for supporting him. Quon was supportive of Ayato's cause and so she gave in to allow Ayato to have the power of tuning, and she was reborn as Ayato and Haruka's (Mulian and Human's) child. |
| I was hoping they would have shown more of younger haruka and ayato. |
MelloRed said: 1) Maya was referring to Tokyo Jupiter. This is speculation, but the instrumentalist must be 18 years old when they meet Ixtli and achieve Yolteotl. The Jupiter barrier was created to both protect Ayato and to ensure he aged slowly enough to be this age at the same time as Quon reached it so they could perform the tuning. 2) The classifications refer to their capabilities as an instrumentalist. They never really explain, but we see two Bs in the show, one is Ayato's twin though I don't think they were "born" at the same time and the other Bahbem used as a new body. I'd guess Bs are very close to having the requirements to be a true instrumentalist (Itsuki thought he might be able to pilot the Rahxephon, Ixtli wouldn't allow it though.) and that Ayato would be considered an A. 3) I don't think there's anything too significant there. Asahina simply liked the more outgoing Momoru more. It could also have something to do with Ayato subconsciously already loving someone else and not opening up to her. Also, it's possible that Maya and the Mu wouldn't have wanted Ayato involved with her and the mind control was responsible for this. I can't really say though because Asahina was the character that I least understood in the show. She was human when the show started, but was becoming a Mulian through episodes 18 & 19. This had started before Ayato showed back up. I would have thought they would have prepared her more for that rather than making her think she was human and letting her freak out. Asahina was a pawn. She had a very specific role. Hmm, where to start. Alright, Ayato is supposed to become a god and tune (recreate) the earth and the world of the Mu. Depending on how he turns out he could either favor the humans or the Mu. Until he goes back to tokyo he was favoring the human world and hated/distrusted the mu. He knows a little now, like the humans are becoming Mu in tokyo jupiter by some kind of experiments...*magic* something. However, he still doesn't see them as people and he doesn't know what he is doing when he kills a dolum. Enter his best friend Asahina. They clearly have been childhood friends. It doesn't seem that his mother planned for him to take Asahina with him when he left but she did see him take Asahina. So how can she use Asahina to her advantage while getting Ayato to care or want to protect the Mu as well as the humans. Ayato's mother lets Ayato run away with her and Asahina shows Ayato that the Mu are people too. His mother sends Asahina's Dolum out to attack Ayato and the Rahxephon. His mother knew that she was a close friend and it would end up making Ayato kill Asahina. A tragedy that would show Ayato exactly what he is doing when he kills the Mu and would change his perspective. Asahina's death weighs heavily on Ayato for the rest of the series. It also affected how Ayato ultimately choose to tune the world. A lot...almost all of the stuff going on in the show is a power play to get Ayato to favor the humans or the Mu. The more mysterious the character the more that the actually know what is going on and the more they try to influence Ayato's and Quan's behaviors and decisions. |
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| For all the people that are confused about this series, watch it again. I have never seen everything or all of the stuff going on. Most of the hints clues come in the subtlest ways. The way a character say something or a sound effect at a specific time or the back ground images or the way that someone moves. Its all very hard to catch everything. I have watch this series at least a dozen times and I still see new aspects every time. I suggest also watching the movie. It fills in some of the gaps in understanding. The books and the manga are ..inferior, but still fun but they don't further your understanding of everything in the series. If you still have lots of questions, send me a message, I won't get back to you right away, but I most likely do know whatever it is you want to know and promiss to reply. |
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| Most of the times I didn't know wtf is going on but I still enjoyed it nonetheless. Love the last scene with Ayato and Haruka. 8/10. |
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Kaizoku_Mugiwara said: I suggest also watching the movie. It fills in some of the gaps in understanding. There's no harm in watching the movie if you've finished the series. I'd keep in mind that the movie isn't the same story as the series though. They cut out massive chunks of the series and changed the story significantly to paste the pieces back together. Heck, they even cut out Mishima, Ayato's primary motivation. |
| Woah, the parallels between Eva and RahXephon were massive during the latter episodes. The people blaming it for copying Eva are onto something after all, but I personally think it can very well stand on its own, and it doesn't therefore even really matter. It was a rather convoluted mindfuck especially towards the end, but I loved piecing together the puzzle. I'm still a bit confused on some things, but I think as I let it sink I will form a complete opinion It was top tier thorough, definitely one of my favorite mecha. 9/10 Skyzblue said: A good ending to a good series. Even though the plot was basically about an individual with a 'god complex', the heart of the entire show is about a genuinely heart touching love story. The plot was confusing, some of the characters should have been utilised more (or less). But hell, the ending episodes made up for most of it. 8.5/10 Yes, this sums up my thoughts on the whole series as of now. The love story was very sweet, and worked as a core to wrap up all the plot threads nicely into one package. |
cupcMar 20, 2015 2:16 PM
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| Aw that after credits scene was great. Topped off a solid series for me |
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| For all those who still doubt about the ending,it's ayato and haruka. Ayato re tune the world so that everyone can live in peace,if you notice that card in the end then you can see that his two mullian classmate got married as well which died in that timeline :3 although we didn't have a clear explanation but that world was different. |
| Edgy shows like this are not normally my cup of tea but I give this one a 7/10 because it was strangely captivating, I couldn't stop watching because I felt like I had to get to the bottom of the story. If I had to list my beef with the show ... - That it lays on the relationship drama way too thick, it was like 70% of the anime. - The idea that Maya created Tokyo Jupiter for Ayato so that he would favor the Mulians doesnt add up to me for so many reasons. First being that she obviously didnt devote much attention to Ayato and wasnt around much as a mother, 2nd they raised him as a human, not telling him what are Mu, 3rd she acted coldly toward him and drugged him when he returned? How is any of this supposed to make him favor the Mu during the re-tuning? They had a perfect environment to brainwash him. - Not just Mu but a lot of the humans treat Ayato like shit, saying he is expendable etc. This doesnt strike me as very smart if they know he is the one who will recreate the world? - The very fact that a dumb confused teenage boy is "re-tuning" the world is a bit of a derpy plot, sorry but it just is. - The way Mishima (haruka) and Quon both say the same like "I am you, we are one" its like the reused the same mysterious cliche twice. Then the end battle where Quon and Ayato's xephons have to fight each other in order to merge to recreate the world, its all a bit dramatic just for the sake of being dramatic, kind of like the way the dolems fight via singing/music, you really have to make a leap in your brain to attach logic to it. Many aspects of this anime are just aesthetics or symbolism like giant egg, feathers falling from sky etc, I prefer stories that are attached to reality a bit more. |
| 4/10 Sorry, but this is below average. Everything is so muted, soft, and subdued in all the wrong ways. Characters was the biggest blow back this series had to offer, and when that falls apart, the rest of the pieces crumble away too. These characters simply didn't feel like... like people. They had very random and abrupt outbursts, with little tension leading up to such emotions. I could sum up this series as that; random and abrupt. Things... just happen and appear, and then it expects me to be swept by it with little development and build up behind it. Ayato remains the biggest glaring issue for me. Somehow I'm supposed to believe he's suffered so much, but the vast majority of him is looking as if he has that "everything's just cool" vibe, and very little of him actually struggling or having to face tribulations. Midway through this series, roughly, Ayato is thrown into a dream-like reality, and I'm like, really, this early? My initial thought was thinking, "Well, duh, there's more episodes ahead of him, so of course he's going to declare his wish to return back to reality!" But here's the thing, it never felt earned. He's just pretty static with only a few moments of bewilderment. Romance? Don't make me laugh. I never felt this "romance" at all during this series. If this series wanted me to feel this strong connection, it wouldn't pollute its story with so many damn side characters that kept distracting him and therefore it watered down the whole experience. Quite simply, and embarrassingly, it began to feel like a harem where "cool and strong mc" chooses the best girl by the end. Fucking wow! RahXephon is just so derivative in dealing with its themes about acceptance and attaining happiness. Yes, oh yes, I'm definitely saying Evangelion handles these concepts and its characters with nimble and thoughtful care, extraordinarily better. Am I aware that RahXephon's primary inspiration was from Brave Raideen? Yes. If anything, maybe it should had drawn primary inspiration from Evangelion after all, at least in the character department and management of said characters. Animation? Fucking amazing in the first episode; you could feel the weight of your surroundings, especially with the heavy aircraft reverberating through the cityscape. All the rest of the episodes? Lost its charm, it was dull, it was uninspiring, and it was flat. Sound/Music? By and large, disappointing. I swear, some sounds sounded so generic, as if I've heard it from other forms of media, which felt so cheap. The soundtrack was severely underutilized. Countless scenes that included action and drama lost any edge of tension when either the music was resonating super low or just saturating the whole sequence where it just nullifies the whole experience. Fails on so many fronts. But hey, at least the ED is great? |
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| Great ending, but depressed the hell out me. I just can't accept that 'reset' is a happy ending. Only for Ayato, since he remembers the previous timeline. Everyone else is dead. |
| I am here because Super Robot Wars Third Impact event use RahXephon instead of Ev "Mecha" yet not really feel mecha i mean almost all battle end like 2 minute (almost all 1 hit K.O) Where did that cockpit come from? did they say RahXephon's inside only for Ollin? Why is even there? even the suit? RahXephon's control sync with pilot's movement right? |
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| I pretty much re-watched this series for Haruka, but the re-watch reminded me how beautiful and poetic this anime could be. I think the ambiguity helps more than it hurts, especially considering the ending which was probably something helped along by almost everything that Ayato experienced. Almost like hints or suggestions of a different 'future.' In this way it really 'paints' the story rather than it tells it, which might be why some people couldn't get into it. I have to say I was concerned when Ayato said he had 'always ran away' but then I realized that the reality I was thinking of (what we had seen so far) wasn't the one he meant, and of course, he found it in the end. That FAQ linked on the first page of this thread is fucking amazing, btw. Shoryu said: Yes, oh yes, I'm definitely saying Evangelion handles these concepts and its characters with nimble and thoughtful care, extraordinarily better Holy hell, as a fan of NGE, this comment is just silly. Are there really any similarities other than 'go back to reality?' which you totally seemed to miss the point of. Not to mention the 'dream sequence' which also seemed to have went right over your head. |
syncrogazerSep 8, 2017 5:26 PM
| I just don't get how this only has 7.52 on MAL, bunch of idiots. |
| Disappointing. Was a rocky journey with emotional moments often falling flat and supporting characters just not getting any love. Then the final episode comes and they really get the shaft. So the world is remade with the main duo in mind but what happened to everyone else? Guess the writers think it doesn't matter. Everything, the Mu,t he silly mysticism, it all leads up to remaking the world where Haruka and Ayato stay together. It all just feels completely pointless, like everyone dies so two idiots can fall in love. |
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| This was so much like NGE. A mediocre series full of weird fucks whiny constantly. If you liked NGE you’ll probably like this too. Give me my ecchi, harems and Isekai and leave this crap for the intellectuals. |
gswelcome said: I’m glad you saw this 26 episodes of drivel the same way. To bad about everybody else at least Shinj... err Ayoto and Haruka got together.Disappointing. Was a rocky journey with emotional moments often falling flat and supporting characters just not getting any love. Then the final episode comes and they really get the shaft. So the world is remade with the main duo in mind but what happened to everyone else? Guess the writers think it doesn't matter. Everything, the Mu,t he silly mysticism, it all leads up to remaking the world where Haruka and Ayato stay together. It all just feels completely pointless, like everyone dies so two idiots can fall in love. |
NoviSun said: gswelcome said: I’m glad you saw this 26 episodes of drivel the same way. To bad about everybody else at least Shinj... err Ayoto and Haruka got together.Disappointing. Was a rocky journey with emotional moments often falling flat and supporting characters just not getting any love. Then the final episode comes and they really get the shaft. So the world is remade with the main duo in mind but what happened to everyone else? Guess the writers think it doesn't matter. Everything, the Mu,t he silly mysticism, it all leads up to remaking the world where Haruka and Ayato stay together. It all just feels completely pointless, like everyone dies so two idiots can fall in love. Anime feels like a kid putting on parents clothes, pretending to be NGE and failing miserably. a lot of nonsense leading to a whimper of an ending. Should have been a supernatural romance out of time show and left out all the edgy crap. I suppose this was like a fanfic where Shinji and Misato get together.... |
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| Good gosh that was an endurance test. It was like NGE but even LESS comprehensible. If I hadn't read the wiki entries on all the characters at the end, I still wouldn't have a damn clue what happened, and that with the half-assed "reveal" during the last 5 minutes of the last bloody episode. Nothing is explained. Ever. None of the characters---even the ones we're supposed to relate to---talk or act or respond like real people. For a show like this to work, things need to start clicking into place in the viewer's brain around, oh, episode 10 or so. To expect a viewer to watch 26 episodes and retain every unconnected character development moment and fragment of dialogue and then magically to piece everything together during the last 5 minutes is insanity. And no way it's getting a rewatch just so everything will "make sense" the 2nd time around. Forget it. Haruka was OK as a character. I liked the OP and ED. Disappointed. 5/10 |
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| In the end I could not get into the idea of Ayato and Haruka being together and it dragged down what had a real shot of being a classic to more fine to good territory for me. The fact I needed to read a faq to understand the ending and some of the backstory are also points against the series in my opinion. 7/10 seems too low, 8/10 seems too high, I will settle on 8 because the show had some great moments. |
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| Best last 2 episodes i have ever witnessed.Also some people here are so hell bent in their own shell and hatred i wonder if they even got the main theme of the show i.e.social commentary on racism,jealousy,inferiority complex,acceptance and so on. |
ultravigoAug 24, 2020 4:41 AM
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| I’m glad this ended on a happy note, overall this series was a bit confusing at times but I got the gist of what happened and overall it was a good show |
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| What is this I don't even-- There are a lot of explanations due for this episode and the series in general... Don't anybody compare this to NGE, NGE is Judeo-Christian to the bone marrow and everyone in it is batshit crazy as is appropriate for that kind of root and base in NGE author's twisted (if genius) mind. Not so for RahXephon, which is much much healthier and basically is what NGE could never be. A shame NGE got all the popularity, but again, that goes for how twisted and sick our civilization is, very appropriate for NGE to take the cake. I don't care about NGE, but I will value RahXephon forever. |
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| Damn! What an ending! The ending is pretty much The End of Evangelion style, though instead the two worlds (Tokyo Jupiter and Earth) merged as one and reborn everyone. Also I thought my player was acting up. But the whole episode was shot with black bars and up until the end, they made it in full screen. Lots to discuss. Let's DO THIS! Ayato regaining his memories. It was weird at first. When Ayato was kind of getting controlled at the last episode (Killing Elvy and Souchi unintentionally), but recovering his memories takes time and he almost never achieved it if it weren't for Quon and the people she showed on the TV that cared about him. He was just scared about the truth. So Helena was all this time, being controlled by Ernst (Lord Bahbem). This is why Itsuki hesitated thinking Helena still has some conscious inside of her body, but instead was just trick by Ernst and now Sayoko does the deed without realizing she was being controlled on the spot. Even Itsuki is tricked into thinking Quon stabbed him. For me, I'm kinda disappointed that Watari (Father) and Maya (Mother) didn't get a final say or talk to Ayato at the end. I understand Maya since she realizes that Ayato is now walking and choosing his own path, but why no Watari scene as well? It just feels a bit wrong that Ayato never got to talk to him earnestly. Even he spend more time with Kunugi than his own father. Not going to lie, I thought Haruka died in the middle. That would have been fucked up if she died without Ayato remembering. Everyone's feelings towards Ayato. Wish they added Kunugi here tbh. I'm surprised he wasn't here :| I fucking knew it! I knew if Haruka and Ayato were together since highschool. The girl in the painting should have resembled her. I think Ixtli did say that Ayato's vision of "Reika" at that time look like this. When in reality, it was Haruka all along. This is why "Reika" and "Haruka" tend to always be one with another, especially in the OP. In fact, Haruka was wary about "Reika". Either she sees herself as a young girl or something else and Ayato just sees Reika. I still don't understand Watari's relationship with the three kids. Since Itsuki is his son. I'm guessing he also raised Helena and Makoto? World has now converge. Tokyo Jupiter and Earth has become one! I feel like everyone has been reborn in the new world. Quon now becomes the child of Haruka and Ayato. Ayato now resembles Itsuki and even got the same VA for him. Even Mamoru and Asahina lives in this new world. So this is how they met in the sea. When Haruka was visiting Ayato's grandfather. So Haruka and Megumi's real last name was "Mishima" "Shitow" was the one from their stepfather. That explains it at least.       Now that comes to an end! What a show reallly! I really enjoyed the series! You can easily compare it the relationship between Berserk and Claymore and Evangelion and Rahxephon. Both works compliment each other and offer different takes on a similar route. The show was giving me so much Xenogears and Xenosaga vibes. Especially mech designs and tons of religious philosophies and background. Wish we had more IPs like this, but shame we literally don't have any of these works besides Evangelion. At least, these shows will be remember for years to come! I give it 9/10 or even 10/10 depending on my mood. Love discussing theories and lore about the world of Rahxephon! We'll be watching the OVA and the Summary Movie for sure for some new scenes! |
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