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Feb 11, 2011 11:42 AM

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Saber's past is shown, woot...
Feb 20, 2011 4:11 PM
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Of course she's King Arthur. She has the fucking Excalibur. It doesn't take a Genius to make the connexion : Holy Grail War =­> Saber with invisible sword => Excalibur => King Arthur
Jun 15, 2011 10:34 PM

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Interesting episode i don't mind the different spin to the king Author story its definitely creative. Just when Emiya is starting to be more likeable he fucks up. Also that little girl is one crazy bitch.
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Sep 8, 2011 12:10 AM

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They are stretching the Arthurian mythos pretty far, but since they've done the same thing to Medusa (Rider) and Heracles (Berserker), I don't think we can complain too much. They could have preserved Saber's gender by making her one of the Celtic warrior queens (Medb or Boudica) or warrior goddesses (the Morrigan) but that would have had other plot consequences.

As for little Ilya, she isn't acting any differently than the other masters (Shiro excepted). Even Rin would probably do the same, although her romantic interest in Shiro outweighs her own self-interest (much to Archer's disgust). To my knowledge she hasn't been going around recharging her servant with human mana so she is actually better than most of them (Rin and Shiro excepted).
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rodac said:
They are stretching the Arthurian mythos pretty far, but since they've done the same thing to Medusa (Rider) and Heracles (Berserker), I don't think we can complain too much. They could have preserved Saber's gender by making her one of the Celtic warrior queens (Medb or Boudica) or warrior goddesses (the Morrigan) but that would have had other plot consequences.

As for little Ilya, she isn't acting any differently than the other masters (Shiro excepted). Even Rin would probably do the same, although her romantic interest in Shiro outweighs her own self-interest (much to Archer's disgust). To my knowledge she hasn't been going around recharging her servant with human mana so she is actually better than most of them (Rin and Shiro excepted).
Illya's magical capacity is huge so she doesn't "need" to make Berserker kill people (which is quite a feat in itself as the Berserker class is the one that uses the most magical energy/prana due to their permanent insanity).

Also, in case anyone wondered, the original Saber was actually the original Arthur Pendragon and his Master was going to be a girl. Nasu, the writer of the Visual Novel, swapped the characters genders (creating Shirou and Arturia) because he believed an eroge starring a female protagonist wouldn't sell well among the expected consumers. There's character art depicting the original female Master and Saver(yeah, with a v for some reason) in the Type Moon Character material and it can be seen in the Type-Moon Wikia.

Anyway, gender aside, the Fate series actually uses a lot of the Arthur mythology, including the search for the Holy Grail, Lancelot's betrayal, Mordred's rebellion (I might add, since it's never said in anything other than side material, that Mordred is indeed Arturia's son...blame Merlin xD), and Arthur's death. The one thing I can remember they sort of failed at is by giving The Sword in the Stone a name. The sword that chose the King is nameless while the sword of the lady of the lake is Excalibur (which they did got right).
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Nov 1, 2011 10:49 PM

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Yeah, I agree with Leon-Gun I've always thought the Fate franchise does a great job staying truthful to the King Arthur legend and I've always thought the idea of a female Arthur being forced to hide her gender gives a hell of a lot of depth to, in my opinion, one of the best characters in the series. Let's see how the anime handles this going forward, as Saber's flashbacks were some of this particular routes finest moments imo.
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May 7, 2012 5:17 PM
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HappyPear said:
What the fuck? Saber is actually some reincarnation of King Arthur? Last time I checked, King = Male, Saber = FemaleServant (No-gender). But didn't King Arthur already have the Holy Grail is his possession? If so, I'd like to see this show explain how he lost it. If not, then fuck me.

So, if Saber = "King" Arthur, Berserker = Heracles, and Lancer = some Irish champion (but who gives a shit about Irish mythology anyways?), then who the fuck is Archer? We never really got told who Assassin or Rider were (but I can guess Assassin is some Japanese samurai guy or something, maybe an assassin, he's not dead yet so I'll find out, maybe), but it's not like this was a well written story to begin with.

Also, the loli is evil, they're always evil. But it doesn't really matter because I hate all of the characters... except for maybe Tohsaka; I have yet to distinguish if I hate her or love her.

This shit gets stupider and stupider. *end rant* Damn, all this talk about King Arthurs and Holy Grails makes me want to watch Monty Python and the Search for the Holy Grail... kind of.


I agree. It is episode 13 and NOTHING HAPPENED in this anime. All the characters except for Archer sucks. Emiya is the most stupid character I ever seen in an anime.

I still don't get all the hype.
People say that the episode 14 change a lot of things, let's se.
Jun 29, 2012 2:52 PM

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How does Ilya control with her eyes???

this was an alright episode i guess. Ilya is a psycho but in a cute innocent kind of way. Didnt surprise me that Shirou got kidnapped... thought it was funny a little girl was that much stronger then him ha. I wonder how old she is, she looks young but acts older, the way she can kill with no remorse, not many kids could do that.

Shinji deserved to die but i liked Rider.

I wonder if Archer and Rin will go after Saber and Shirou soon????
Aug 22, 2012 2:42 PM

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haha Loli magical eyes! Love it!

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Dec 5, 2012 7:00 AM

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Decent episode, that ending was rather interesting, lets see what's next!
Jan 26, 2013 1:12 PM
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HappyPear said:
What the fuck? Saber is actually some reincarnation of King Arthur? Last time I checked, King = Male, Saber = FemaleServant (No-gender). But didn't King Arthur already have the Holy Grail is his possession? If so, I'd like to see this show explain how he lost it. If not, then fuck me.

So, if Saber = "King" Arthur, Berserker = Heracles, and Lancer = some Irish champion (but who gives a shit about Irish mythology anyways?), then who the fuck is Archer? We never really got told who Assassin or Rider were (but I can guess Assassin is some Japanese samurai guy or something, maybe an assassin, he's not dead yet so I'll find out, maybe), but it's not like this was a well written story to begin with.

Also, the loli is evil, they're always evil. But it doesn't really matter because I hate all of the characters... except for maybe Tohsaka; I have yet to distinguish if I hate her or love her.

This shit gets stupider and stupider. *end rant* Damn, all this talk about King Arthurs and Holy Grails makes me want to watch Monty Python and the Search for the Holy Grail... kind of.


They've told the assassin. He is a legendary samurai, swordsman from history.

I think they've pretty messed up with Saber's gender.

Edit: Also, that man who said she will not be a human anymore meant the legends, they've shown us how the men even from her time manipulated her story/background.
Feb 2, 2013 8:02 PM

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Illya is one dangerous little spoiled brat!
Feb 20, 2013 7:46 PM

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Good that Shinji is done. Shirou continues to prove he's an idiot by going out without protection and getting himself captured and luckily not killed. He's wrestling with the decision to have Saber kill someone to replenish herself with mana.

Here's an idea...learn how to GIVE Saber mana genius.

He's worse than Shinji from Evangelion
Mar 5, 2013 5:22 AM

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Ilya is such a psycho bitch, I can't believe it actually. Her mother in Zero was a rather nice and kind woman.

Jun 11, 2013 6:53 PM

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I had a feeling that Saber was King Arthur...
Illya is just one crazy little bitch.
Hope Archer and Rin find a way to kill Berserker by the end.
Jun 13, 2013 11:05 AM

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poor saber :/ after using noble phantasm she is fainted :/
btw saber past is telling in this episode.. its really interesting :3

hmm.. idk why I thought ilya is so cute in this episode -_-
well she is quite crazy but at last she is killing that son of a beach shinji :)
Jul 3, 2013 8:42 PM
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Why does everything the little girl does is in some way creepily suggestive?
Aug 18, 2013 3:47 PM

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Well, Saber is out of energy now. I just wonder how they will make her regain it in anime. There is one very special occasion where she regains it in the game but I doubt they will anime it.

Also, next episode should start all the action. There is no going back from there. Can't wait.
Sep 2, 2013 3:07 PM

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:/
Am I the only one who likes Ilya more than Shirou?
Sep 3, 2013 1:22 AM

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shayryu said:
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Am I the only one who likes Ilya more than Shirou?

She the best girl afterall.
Sep 16, 2013 9:08 PM
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Like others have said, the way Shinji died was... ouch.
Apr 11, 2014 1:30 PM

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If it wasn't for Illya it would be impossible for me to watch this.
Apr 25, 2014 10:51 AM

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Damn shinji is dead 0.0
May 15, 2014 8:55 PM
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Im both happy and sad.Happy that shinji is dead sad that we didint get to see it.Man that loli has some screws loose and seems a bit on the kinky side.Shirou did have tough choice since he lacks in magic skills the only way to get saber back to normal is to force her to kill.Also seems like king arthur is a chick in this universe.Another entertaining episode cant wait to see what happens next.
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Oct 19, 2014 2:27 PM

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Illya doesn't have appearance to have a servant like Heracles....
Shirou will save Saber, I believe him.
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Feb 19, 2015 11:52 AM

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God Shirou, how often will you go outside alone again and get caught? He really doesn't learn anything.
Archer is an ass for calling off that truce just like that, where's your honor you scrub?
Damn that loli bitch, what a psycho >:(
Feb 19, 2015 1:48 PM

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Why is anybody still watching this shit
Apr 25, 2016 4:49 AM

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The Internal Conflict . Connection of both Master and Servant .
A Medieval Legend . King Arthur of Great Britain .
If Shirou can obtain 'Materialization' , I mean an upgrade .
Hold your horses , Young lady . It seems Infatuation to the extremes .
Very Great Episode !!! Shirou is special ~ .
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Sep 15, 2016 7:29 AM

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I got told not to watch this but I figured it was just snobbery. This shit has damn near killed my interest in anime. I've had to take a massive break because I realized I was just watching crap for the sake of it and this was the one that broke me.

It seems to be picking up the pace and we're over half way so hopefully it's going to be over soon.
Nov 10, 2016 1:01 PM

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Evil Lolisviel is cute. How she killed Shinji was pretty gruesome, but it was right. He had to die.

She seems to have taken a liking to Shiro. Does she want a big brother?

Mother Sabers backstory was interesting.
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Jul 10, 2017 8:15 AM

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Mainly fun because of Shiro's getting caught so easily (and the Archer's sarcastic comme).

So, by present days servants, it was actually meant that you could enroll a living human. Interesting. But do they disappear once the "War" is over?

4/5 Excalibur prevented Artur(ia , erk) to grow old... XD


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This shit gets stupider and stupider.

I'm positive that it wasn't supposed to be intelligent in the first place. It looks more like the typical journey of an apparently unskilled boy with big ideal and nothing to support it. On the road, he finds allies (or girls since it adapts a pornographic videogame), discovers his talents and the truth behind his origins (or his adoptive father I guess here) and will eventually have his convictions shattered only to stand up and possibly win.


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There is one very special occasion where she regains energy in the game but I doubt they will anime it.

Sexual intercourses? XD
Dec 5, 2017 10:41 PM

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Sooooooo slow paced

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Dec 29, 2017 3:51 PM

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Ston3_FreeN7 said:
It's always funny to see people call an episode that has no action "bad." When, in actuality this episode moved the plot forward significantly.

Exactly this. +calling it bad because 'slow paced'. I'm so glad that they had taken this kind of direction in this series.
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Jan 3, 2019 7:55 AM
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Well, another good episode. Illya is so adorable, but deadly.
Feb 16, 2019 7:54 PM

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That was a great episode. That little Illya is about as crazy as they come.
Apr 12, 2019 5:43 PM
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Shirou is a fucking idiot, honestly I'm surprised his plot armours that good. He should have died out of sheer stupidity multiple times already. He's unbearably naive, insufferably idealistic even when it causes more strife than good, and an all round moron.

Tries to make nicey-nice with the enemy who almost murdered him and Saber a week earlier, what could possibly go wrong?
Immediately gets paralysed and kidnapped the 2nd time they meet again.

I'm gonna have to side with Archer, he's better off dead.
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Jun 8, 2019 9:03 AM

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When Saber was called 'King'. "Ah **** here we go again...." Coincidentially there's a character that resembles Saber a lot, and that was Kurapika from Hunter X Hunter. And his gender was still vague though not as vague as Saber.

So Saber just pulled the blade so easily? Lol. What a way to become a king.

Illya have waited Shirou for 10 years. She's older than what she looks it seems.
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Sep 23, 2019 12:38 AM
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why each time Ilya say Oni-chan/ kinda sound like sexual. where is FBI ? that is cruel.
Nov 6, 2019 11:21 AM

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was not expecting IIya to turn out like this
Dec 3, 2019 1:03 AM
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Shinji died. I love it. How did he still shout after getting banged by that big thing.
Illya is so cute and Emiya is so lucky that she was sitting on his lap! AAAA HE IS SO LUCKY
Oct 18, 2021 10:19 PM
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Useless Shirou always a burden

Nice to see Shinji dead
Dec 19, 2021 1:06 AM

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wow shinji ded im glad but sadly we didn't able to see it
Jun 7, 2022 10:53 AM
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Man the mc is so soft, I mean just let saber regain mana by destroying bad guys lol
Jun 12, 2022 11:25 PM
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Shinji died so earlier was surprising and I like how easily Illya just kidnapped Shirou lol.
Feb 15, 2023 12:07 AM
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complete these many episodes but nothing's really happening
May 23, 2023 11:34 AM

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i knew that syber had to made her attack because of shirou, but was it that bad? didn't thought she would go that far.

while i believe shirou will find another way to feed syber mana, i'm worried from the upcoming battle.

i actually understand archer point of view. but rin is just, well, you know ...

wonder iliya's reasons to have shirou.
i'm not sorry for shinji though. lol
Jul 21, 2023 7:46 AM
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Se esse Shirou for a causa da morte de alguém, eu vou ficar pistola. Essa Illya é biruta das ideias.
Jul 21, 2023 7:51 AM
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HappyPear said:
What the fuck? Saber is actually some reincarnation of King Arthur? Last time I checked, King = Male, Saber = FemaleServant (No-gender). But didn't King Arthur already have the Holy Grail is his possession? If so, I'd like to see this show explain how he lost it. If not, then fuck me.

So, if Saber = "King" Arthur, Berserker = Heracles, and Lancer = some Irish champion (but who gives a shit about Irish mythology anyways?), then who the fuck is Archer? We never really got told who Assassin or Rider were (but I can guess Assassin is some Japanese samurai guy or something, maybe an assassin, he's not dead yet so I'll find out, maybe), but it's not like this was a well written story to begin with.

Also, the loli is evil, they're always evil. But it doesn't really matter because I hate all of the characters... except for maybe Tohsaka; I have yet to distinguish if I hate her or love her.

This shit gets stupider and stupider. *end rant* Damn, all this talk about King Arthurs and Holy Grails makes me want to watch Monty Python and the Search for the Holy Grail... kind of.
Assassin and Rider LITERALLY said their names: Rider = Bellerophon and Assassin = Sasaki Kojirō
Aug 5, 2023 11:32 PM
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Meh, kinda boring
- There's something about Archer... Who is he?
- I wonder how Saber will get her mana
- "You should kill someone when you beat them"... SAYS YOU ILLYA
- Illya has mystic eyes?
- Glad to see Shirou's powers growing, I wonder if he gets powerful
- What is with this kid...
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So far, the entire story has focused solely on developing the main character. It doesn't make sense if the main character always gets help and escapes danger without any clear reason. This makes this anime so boring.
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