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Will there ever be an Ecchi and/or Hentai with a "deep" story?
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View Poll Results: Do you think there will ever be an ecchi or hentai with a deep story?
Yes, it just hasn't been made yet.
 
8 13.33%
Yes, it already exist.
 
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No.
 
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03-08-13, 1:25 PM

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So I was fapping thinking recently when this question came to me. Do you think hentai could ever have a deep story, or is it trapped too much in its own purpose to do so? By that I mean it caters to a market and a purpose, so they don't need a good story to begin with. And by deep I mean something more along the lines of more philosophical/psychological anime such as Ghost in the Shell or Lain while also having characters you actually care about and that have depth. Is this asking to much or is it just an impossible feat altogether? Why or why not? Being the good people of MAL that I know you are, explain your answer to contribute to discussion.

And do not say Bible Black because-

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03-08-13, 1:31 PM

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Haven't watched it but some say that Kite have a pretty decent story.

http://myanimelist.net/anime/320/Kite
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03-08-13, 1:47 PM

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Jauregui said:
Haven't watched it but some say that Kite have a pretty decent story.

http://myanimelist.net/anime/320/Kite


I would say they're 'alright'. Kite and Mezzo Forte, I keep forgetting which is which since they're literally the same.

If you want something like Ghost in Shell (well not really but theme-wise) with more high level in terms of ecchi/nudity/borderline-h, I'd recommend you check Mardock Scramble. I wouldn't say it has the best plot or story and it is kinda slow but it's still a good watch with fantastic animation. Has quite a bit of nudity, gore and some sex scenes. Not a hentai. It's kinda fucked up too.

Also another show to try, Mnemosyne. Don't look at the image MAL is using, check out the other images, they're better. Lots of yuri sex and gore. Again not a hentai.
 
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03-08-13, 1:48 PM

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Wait that's Bible Black? Then what the hell did I watch that one time.
 
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03-08-13, 1:51 PM

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As ecchi anime goes, as in Non-Hentai. I thought Highschool DxD had a pretty good plot. Certainly enough to keep me interested despite the boobs bouncing around everywhere throughout.


 
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03-08-13, 1:55 PM

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SirDrRoger said:
Wait that's Bible Black? Then what the hell did I watch that one time.


You skipped that part and went straight for the porn. Admit it.

Riptos said:
As ecchi anime goes, as in Non-Hentai. I thought Highschool DxD had a pretty good plot. Certainly enough to keep me interested despite the boobs bouncing around everywhere throughout.


This. Not only that but the ending wasn't left open. The MC decided who he would rather be with. Any harem anime with open endings are annoying as hell.
 
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03-08-13, 1:56 PM

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03-08-13, 1:57 PM

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I don't think so, no. Porn, animated porn, they both serve the same purpose and concepts. To induce pleasure and sexual enjoyment/stimulation through simply viewing it. I mean, who the hell watches porn for the story anyways?
 
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03-08-13, 2:26 PM

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This question has been plaguing me for ages (well, months). My answer would have to be no. If the purpose of porn is to get you horny, then why does it need a deep plot to accomplish it?

I believe that for some show to be good, it has to keep these two things separate. Trying to combine them either leads to epic facepalm moments (Freezing looked super serious, but it didn't strike me that way) or shows that end up playing for laughs (i.e. most mediocre shows with fanservice).

When I'm watching a super serious show or reading a super serious text, the sex/fanservice gets in the way. When I look at porn, I skip the plot and get to the sex. See the problem here?

Then again, if someone finds a serious show that answers this topic's question (male protagonist preferred), please enlighten me. PLEASE.
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03-08-13, 2:29 PM

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Pure Mail is a hentai actually has an interesting setup for the romance that I've never seen before. It's not an award winning hentai, but it definitely tried to have some actual plot instead of PLOT.
 
03-08-13, 2:39 PM

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Depends on your definition of deep (Hur Hur Hur)
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03-08-13, 2:42 PM

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Ahri said:
SirDrRoger said:
Wait that's Bible Black? Then what the hell did I watch that one time.
You skipped that part and went straight for the porn. Admit it.


No I think I figured out what happened. I never watched the original BB. I watched BB New Testament and once I got to the final scene of episode 1 I stopped watching and suppressed that memory until now.
 
03-08-13, 2:43 PM

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SquadmemberRitsu said:
Depends on your definition of deep (Hur Hur Hur)


Penetration depth! ALL DA WAY THROUGH!
 
03-08-13, 3:06 PM

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half the eroges are like that, the rest is fap material.
 
03-08-13, 3:06 PM

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Ahri said:

Riptos said:
As ecchi anime goes, as in Non-Hentai. I thought Highschool DxD had a pretty good plot. Certainly enough to keep me interested despite the boobs bouncing around everywhere throughout.


This. Not only that but the ending wasn't left open. The MC decided who he would rather be with. Any harem anime with open endings are annoying as hell.


Hmm he sort of did but I get the feeling that Isei is the type to choose more than one girl in the end and they'll probably be okay with it in DxD though I might be wrong. But that's how a harem should be in my opinion, the MC should have multiple relationships it is a damned fantasy anime after all!
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03-08-13, 3:08 PM

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LayedBack said:
Ahri said:

Riptos said:
As ecchi anime goes, as in Non-Hentai. I thought Highschool DxD had a pretty good plot. Certainly enough to keep me interested despite the boobs bouncing around everywhere throughout.


This. Not only that but the ending wasn't left open. The MC decided who he would rather be with. Any harem anime with open endings are annoying as hell.


Hmm he sort of did but I get the feeling that Isei is the type to choose more than one girl in the end and they'll probably be okay with it in DxD though I might be wrong. But that's how a harem should be in my opinion, the MC should have multiple relationships it is a damned fantasy anime after all!


You could always just read the character spoiler tags.

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03-08-13, 3:09 PM

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Who watches porn for the story?

*crickets*

I thought so.
 
03-08-13, 3:13 PM

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Paul said:
SquadmemberRitsu said:
Depends on your definition of deep (Hur Hur Hur)


Penetration depth! ALL DA WAY THROUGH!


>Hentai/Ecchi
>Story
>Exposition > Rising action > Climax > Falling action > Resolution
> Hurr Hurr Hurr

 
03-08-13, 3:14 PM

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Jauregui said:
Haven't watched it but some say that Kite have a pretty decent story.

http://myanimelist.net/anime/320/Kite


That's what I would've said as well. Kite and Mezzo Forte are the only hentais (if you can call them that) that I've seen that have anything resembling a plot and characters.

Just curious OP, but why are you critiquing the merits of Bible Black off of the dub? I mean, it's not like your typical imported anime where they actually hire "professional" voice actors to perform the dubs. Can you imagine someone like Crispin Freeman or Kari Wahlgren doing the Bible Black dub? I can't. lol

Although, I will agree with you. The Bible Black dub is one of the funniest things I've heard since Garzey's Wing dub.
 
03-08-13, 3:15 PM

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TookMe6Years said:
Paul said:
SquadmemberRitsu said:
Depends on your definition of deep (Hur Hur Hur)


Penetration depth! ALL DA WAY THROUGH!


>Hentai/Ecchi
>Story
>Exposition > Rising action > Climax > Falling action > Resolution
> Hurr Hurr Hurr



I find hentai likes to solve all its problems in the last few minutes after the last rape scene climax of the last episode so I think the right side of the hill should be a straight horizontal line down from climax to denouement.
 
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