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02-24-13, 11:13 AM

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Back from "vacation," in the mood for another casual thread.

First off, let's go with a definition:
In forum parlance, it means rushing to the aid of another poster for whatever reason. An accusation typically reserved for when a poster is being hammered by another poster(s) and the accused leaps in to defend them, usually without thinking things through as to why the person is being attacked.

—Urban Dictionary (definition 1)

Ignoring the obvious reason of "to get laid hurr durr", why do people do it?

Acceptable behavior? Been guilty of doing it yourself?

Share your thoughts!

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02-24-13, 11:20 AM

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Me no comprende.
 
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02-24-13, 11:24 AM

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Sophilia said:
Me no comprende.
I know you comprende. It's when people stick up for other people for whatever reason on the internet. I'm asking what that reason is. And people's opinion on it of course.

...almost fell for it though.
 
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02-24-13, 11:26 AM

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MellowJello said:
You know you comprende. It's when people stick up for other people for whatever reason on the internet. I'm asking why.

...almost fell for it though.
Idk what you're talking about.

cuz MAL. duh
 
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02-24-13, 11:29 AM

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They identify with people they defend or their positions. So when you challenge person A's statements, person B feels like you are attacking their beliefs. Its a matter of ego.
Next question.
 
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02-24-13, 11:29 AM

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I suppose the same reason people do charity. They want to feel better about themselves.
In this case particularly by feeling like a real "alpha" knight by defending the wee womenfolk in their time of distress. And I assume most likely because they would never do something like that IRL.

Eigi man ek þá lǫg jómsvikinga ef ek kviði við bana eða mæla ek æðruorð. Eitt sinn skal hverr deyja
 
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02-24-13, 11:30 AM

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Meri said:
Next question.
MellowJello said:
Acceptable behavior? Been guilty of doing it yourself?
 
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02-24-13, 11:30 AM

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I usually do it when I agree with someone getting hammered and want to hammer the person who's doing the hammering. IMO white knighting generally helps in that situation.
It is said God created the universe, but where did God come from? Luckily in this age of science we have found the answer.
 
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02-24-13, 11:31 AM

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Because some people don't feel like being terrible to one another?
 
02-24-13, 11:33 AM

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MellowJello said:
Meri said:
Next question.
MellowJello said:
Acceptable behavior? Been guilty of doing it yourself?
It's the interwebz. I'm doing it right now.

Next question.
 
02-24-13, 11:33 AM

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MellowJello said:
Meri said:
Next question.
MellowJello said:
Acceptable behavior? Been guilty of doing it yourself?
How is this white knight behavior? Im just being snide. And yes being a bit snide is acceptable to me.
 
02-24-13, 11:33 AM

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because it makes them feel better about themselves
RRRRRRRRRR
 
02-24-13, 11:33 AM

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ForgoneReality said:
Because some people don't feel like being terrible to one another?
More like, some people don't know the meaning of FUN.

Eigi man ek þá lǫg jómsvikinga ef ek kviði við bana eða mæla ek æðruorð. Eitt sinn skal hverr deyja
 
02-24-13, 11:35 AM

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Baman said:
ForgoneReality said:
Because some people don't feel like being terrible to one another?
More like, some people don't know the meaning of FUN.
Or a joke.
 
02-24-13, 11:36 AM

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Sophilia said:
Next question.
Do you like white knighting? Do you appreciate others defending you?
 
02-24-13, 11:38 AM

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MellowJello said:
Meri said:
Next question.
MellowJello said:
Acceptable behavior? Been guilty of doing it yourself?


Of course it's acceptable, at worst its ignorable, at best it helps keep the community together.
It is said God created the universe, but where did God come from? Luckily in this age of science we have found the answer.
 
02-24-13, 11:38 AM

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MellowJello said:
Do you like white knighting? Do you appreciate others defending you?
Translates to:
MellowJello said:
Do you like white knighting? Would you have sex with someone who is defending you online?

Eigi man ek þá lǫg jómsvikinga ef ek kviði við bana eða mæla ek æðruorð. Eitt sinn skal hverr deyja
 
02-24-13, 11:39 AM

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MellowJello said:
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Next question.
Do you like white knighting? Do you appreciate others defending you?
I can annihilate on my own, but thanks.
 
02-24-13, 11:40 AM

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ixsetf said:

Of course it's acceptable, at worst its ignorable, at best it helps keep the community together.

>MAL
>Community

 
02-24-13, 11:41 AM

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Sophilia said:
I can annihilate on my own, but thanks.
What about this one?

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MellowJello said:
Would you have sex with someone who is defending you online?
Nailed it.
 
02-24-13, 11:43 AM

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MellowJello said:
Sophilia said:
I can annihilate on my own, but thanks.
What about this one?

Baman said:
MellowJello said:
Would you have sex with someone who is defending you online?
Nailed it.
Meri said:

 
02-24-13, 11:52 AM

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Meri said:
ixsetf said:

Of course it's acceptable, at worst its ignorable, at best it helps keep the community together.

>MAL
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How about "makes people hate each other slightly less vehemently"
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02-24-13, 11:53 AM

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Op is a white knight.
 
02-24-13, 11:56 AM

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Shuhan said:
Op is a white knight.
Took two pages, but oh well.

In the meantime, mind sharing your other thoughts on white knighting?
 
02-24-13, 11:56 AM

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Captain Marvel has the villain defeated and lifts him by the throat.
Superman: Thats enough!
Captain Marvel: No! I have to! to protect them.
Superman:How? By being like him?
Captain Marvel: By being Stronger than him.
Superman:...Then be strong. Be good.

If Superman says it, it must be true. My logic when I help people.
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02-24-13, 12:00 PM

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Guilty. Acceptable, we all have stupid moments like that.


 
02-24-13, 12:03 PM

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Most of the white knighting I've seen is from guys defending a girl, no matter how reprehensible she may be.
 
02-24-13, 12:26 PM

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I don't understand it either, it just helps the one bashing the victim because he'll have another victim.

My advice?

Keep on White Knighting.




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Hitler was good, objectively.
 
02-24-13, 12:34 PM

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Baman said:
MellowJello said:
Do you like white knighting? Do you appreciate others defending you?
Translates to:
MellowJello said:
Do you like white knighting? Would you have sex with someone who is defending you online?


Yes.

Everyone should adopt a policy of indifference, that way they'll never feel the need to be a white knight.
 
02-24-13, 12:37 PM

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I think there is enough hate that the white knight just assumed whoever they like/identify with/sympathize with was catching hate because people like to hate. not always the reason sure, but a lot of times people like to insult each other without even thinking about the conversation that's happening. I guess that makes it a little hypocritical since white knight becomes one of the ones not listening.

I feel like I've prolly done it before...but only for sex.:P
 
02-24-13, 12:41 PM

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extraspectra said:
I feel like I've prolly done it before...but only for sex.:P
So uhh... did it work?

Danielcook would like to know.
And everybody else.
 
02-24-13, 12:41 PM

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Knights are too meh in general though. Better to be a sniper. Some of the best posters on this site are snipers, like Scud and that awesome dude that always posts great and solid but humorous posts that I can recall the name of because he posts so seldom.

Eigi man ek þá lǫg jómsvikinga ef ek kviði við bana eða mæla ek æðruorð. Eitt sinn skal hverr deyja
 
02-24-13, 12:42 PM

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MellowJello said:
extraspectra said:
I feel like I've prolly done it before...but only for sex.:P


Internet sex must be awfully good.
 
02-24-13, 12:42 PM

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not on this board. yes on non-mod bloodbath boards
 
02-24-13, 12:46 PM

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MellowJello said:
extraspectra said:
I feel like I've prolly done it before...but only for sex.:P
So uhh... did it work?


every time
 
02-24-13, 12:49 PM

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extraspectra said:
MellowJello said:
extraspectra said:
I feel like I've prolly done it before...but only for sex.:P
So uhh... did it work?

every time
Well I'll be darned. Guess white knighting does have its uses.

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not on this board. yes on non-mod bloodbath boards
Care to explain? Why protect someone if everyone is liable to get flamed without consequence?
 
02-24-13, 12:51 PM

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MellowJello said:
extraspectra said:
MellowJello said:
extraspectra said:
I feel like I've prolly done it before...but only for sex.:P
So uhh... did it work?

every time
Well I'll be darned. Guess white knighting does have its uses.

The Internet sex, yeah.

EDIT: What's up with you guys taking my titles now? Who the heck gives sigs with "I am a derailer"?




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Hitler was good, objectively.
 
02-24-13, 1:00 PM

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I guess in an argument, people will do it because they disagree with the person who's doing the "attacking".

I've most certainly done it. Just look at the SAO boards.

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Most of the white knighting I've seen is from guys defending a girl, no matter how reprehensible she may be.
I agree. And I can't stand it.

The attitude is so pussy-starved and pathetically virginal, it makes me sick.
 
02-24-13, 1:03 PM

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I don't understand it either, it just helps the one bashing the victim because he'll have another victim.

My advice?

Keep on White Knighting.


ixsetf said:

How about "makes people hate each other slightly less vehemently"
not really. people who hate dont stop hating because of white knight. in fact...
 
02-24-13, 1:05 PM

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To be a hypocrite.
As a child, I was told that society is a melting pot of talents; knowledge and experience combined to form important alloys that will contribute to mankind. When I got to highschool, however, I thought that it's more like a river in which the water represents our peers while we ourselves are the stones in the river. Constant erosion by mindless majority sheeping has made us lose our unique edge. After I hit the age of 18, I realized that I've been wrong all along. Society is no melting pot. Society is no river. Society is a person, a very skilled rapist, and he has fucked us all.
 
02-24-13, 1:16 PM

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MellowJello said:
Shuhan said:
Op is a white knight.
Took two pages, but oh well.

In the meantime, mind sharing your other thoughts on white knighting?


The internet needs more white knights, they protect the weak.
 
02-24-13, 1:31 PM

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Kibitzer said:
Shuhan said:
The internet needs the dark knight, he protects the weak.


 
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Hmm, well if the person I'm defending's views are the same as mine, then obviously, I'll want to defend them, thereby defending my own views. (So in a sense, it's building up egos )

Other times, I just want to be a dick and join in on the fun.
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I do not understand this thread. What exactly is the controversy in an act of compassion? Rules of the Internet be damned, is it really that perplexing to some of you people that someone wants to correct a perceived injustice that they're witnessing?

Because that's what I see when someone is being the White Knight. They're essentially rescuing a person from a virtual lynching.
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I think on the forums I never did such a thing when whatever position/view was already heavily defended/attacked, since there is nothing for me to add-on. But when I see someone getting tired/attacked by more than one person in their views, and coincidentally I share that view, I will join in.

I think with this a civil discussion can get ugly quite fast though i.e. flaming and such, so in a way, I try to steer clear from the crowd.
 
02-24-13, 1:38 PM

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There's no need to defend somebody if he's right.

It's just a lot more funnier to see the majority being wrong.




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Hitler was good, objectively.
 
02-24-13, 1:43 PM

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I do not understand this thread. What exactly is the controversy in an act of compassion? Rules of the Internet be damned, is it really that perplexing to some of you people that someone wants to correct a perceived injustice that they're witnessing?

Because that's what I see when someone is being the White Knight. They're essentially rescuing a person from a virtual lynching.
You're free to question the thread, but as a response to your question(s): Yes, it is perplexing. Because it's the Internet. Rules of the Internet not be damned. At the end of the day shit happens and everyone moves on (hopefully). So why bother defending someone?

And for the second part, did they ask for saving? A lot of white knights jump in willy-nilly, and I'm asking why they do it (in your opinion, of course).
 
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Knights who say ni make more sense to me then white knights.
 
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Meri said:
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How about "makes people hate each other slightly less vehemently"
not really. people who hate dont stop hating because of white knight. in fact...


They do if everyone involved is being relatively reasonable about it.

For example:
If Person A is bashing Person B for having view 1
and Person C comes in "white knighting" making person B's opinion sound more reasonable or pointing out how Person A's response was too extreme,
Person A realizes that bashing Person B was uncalled for and that he should have been more civil
and Person A gains more respect for Person B while Person B stops getting flamed

That can happen, just doesn't because everyone on the internet is immature.
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ixsetf said:

They do if everyone involved is being relatively reasonable about it.

For example:
If Person A is bashing Person B for having view 1
and Person C comes in "white knighting" and makes person B's opinion sound more reasonable or points out that person A's response was too extreme
Person A realizes that bashing Person B was uncalled for and that he should have been more civil
Person A gains more respect for Person B and person B stops getting flamed

That can happen, just doesn't because everyone on the internet is immature.
More like Person A ends up bashing Person B & C. And then a Person E & D come and bash Person B & C too.
 
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