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Apr 18, 2013 9:49 AM

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5layer said:
So the person killing everyone might be Mamoru or Maria. Not entirely sure.

Very doubtful since they've been confirmed dead. (and I think that confirmation can be trusted since it was Tomoki-sama who made it, I think she would have noticed the manipulations of a cantus user and/or the Bakenezumi).

It seems that things are getting more and more desperate and the whole society the humans build and tried to mantain is about to fall apart.
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Apr 20, 2013 11:50 PM

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Alexx_ said:
HOLY SHIT! This episode was all kinds of intense.
Had me at the edge of my seat.

srs.
Apr 23, 2013 9:39 PM

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This episode was intense! Definitely one of the best episodes so far.
Apr 28, 2013 3:44 PM

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Entravity said:
Fiend attacking everyone. Nice, looks like what people predicted is right. Should be interesting to see where he's from. How does Yakomaru control him? Hmm....


A karma demon is uncontrollable but a fiend isn't. A fiend is nothing different than sociopath or murderer in our society in term of personality. we know such people can be manipulated so is not impossible to manipulate such person.

What i wondered was how does he/she kill everyone so easy? Does the cantus becomes stronger for a fiend or is it simply because the others can't use their power against it.
From what i got from the DNA thing, is not that a person can't kill another but more that he/she will probably die too if it does. So why don't they kill him/her even if it will cost them their lifes than sit there and die? Maybe because they where educated to not be able to even attack a human but this should not ably to the higher individuals or our mains that didn't receive the full brainwashing course.
What i don't get is why since the liver stopping etc is implanted in the DNA, why do fiends have the capability to not be affected. A karma demon does everything subconsciously so is understandable that he can avoid being affected because he doesn't actually try to kill anyone. But a fiend does things consciously.
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Apr 29, 2013 2:37 PM

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MoonageDaydream said:
I had a feeling that another person was nearby when I saw the rainbow flashes.
Yeah, I also wondered why that rainbow flash/warping of the air was there when they were blowing up the queerats in the fire.
I gues it's a fiend, huh? I wonder if it could be someone we know.

Great episode again, btw. I especially liked the scene when they started burning up their surroundings, all while playing that epic music.
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May 1, 2013 2:32 PM

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Fuck*ng epic episode, i really like this series
May 17, 2013 12:28 AM

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Zestian said:
Fuck*ng epic episode, i really like this series
This.
These past few episode have been really exciting. Heh
CabronJul 4, 2013 1:00 AM
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Learn how special effects and backlighting were done without computers.

May 23, 2013 6:12 PM

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LOVED the episode !!!!!!! People who dropped it in the start lost so so much !!! I was excited all the episode ! One of the best so far.
May 25, 2013 8:17 AM

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I'm actually guessing that the monster rats killed Maria and Mamoru after capturing their son (who I'm also guessing exists), gave the real skeletons over to the ethics committee and raised the kid to become their own little controllable ogre.

At this point anything could be true.
May 25, 2013 12:19 PM

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Thats got to be maria and momaru's child, maria's final words from last episode sayign that her and saki couldnt have kids just seems to point to that

Immahnoob said:
Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

tokiyashiro said:

Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

Jun 5, 2013 7:12 PM

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DJIzzyIzzyHitler said:
Thats got to be maria and momaru's child, maria's final words from last episode sayign that her and saki couldnt have kids just seems to point to that


That's what I thought, it would be the only reason to she say that, also, the whole thing about Maria needing to die or not being born makes sense now...if she was not born she would not have this kid and the people would be safe.
Jun 19, 2013 3:20 AM
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DJIzzyIzzyHitler said:
Thats got to be maria and momaru's child, maria's final words from last episode sayign that her and saki couldnt have kids just seems to point to that


Also, I didn't understand some major parts of the series but the kids got the spirit blessing thing with the cantus at age 12, and this was a 12 year time skip, exactly enough time for a child to grow and receive cantus. After that, it's pretty easy to manipulate a child into hating the village, maybe telling him that the village caused the deaths of his parents, or something of the sort.

If this is true, it's a pretty creepy case of teenage pregnancy though.
Jul 3, 2013 4:14 AM

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Holy shit, that was definitely the best episode so far. Shit hit the fan for realz

A fiend, probably, but who is he and where is he from? I can't stop thinking that it's either Shun or Mamoru, but neither of them would make sense really... I'm quite sure Maria and Mamoru are still alive even though it was said that they are dead. And Mamoru having become a Fiend and attacking the village doesn't really make much sense to me.
Must watch next episode nao >:3
Jul 4, 2013 12:58 AM

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This episode was intense. And who the hell is that Fiend ? Or maybe it's a Karma Demon...?
Anyway this series is getting interesting at this point.
Jul 29, 2013 9:55 AM

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One thing I'm really enjoying about this is that there aren't any stupid anime tropes or anything like that. The emotions and actions of the characters all feel incredibly real. This is just a great work of art - no pandering to the audience or anything. I don't think I've seen anything like this before. Thoroughly enjoying it
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Aug 15, 2013 12:39 PM

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shits are getting real D: amazing episode, it kept my adrenaline up :D
Aug 21, 2013 7:29 PM

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Wow... For the first time in this series I can say "That was a great episode!"
Aug 30, 2013 2:56 PM

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lr3t2 said:
5layer said:
So the person killing everyone might be Mamoru or Maria. Not entirely sure.

Very doubtful since they've been confirmed dead. (and I think that confirmation can be trusted since it was Tomoki-sama who made it, I think she would have noticed the manipulations of a cantus user and/or the Bakenezumi).

I don't think so because it was foreshadowed at the end of episode 2 that a lot of people would've lived if Maria hadn't been born.

OT: Very suspenseful episode.
I almost piss myself during the door scene. xD

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Sep 14, 2013 9:39 AM

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so intense, and so dark...
Sep 20, 2013 8:49 PM

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shit dont tell me this is the demon :3
really awesome episode
Oct 8, 2013 7:53 AM

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WELL THAT WAS BLOODY BRILLIANT.

please don't be Maria :'(
Oct 15, 2013 4:30 AM
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Damn I knew mamoru was going to become a fiend from the episode he left the village.
Oct 15, 2013 4:33 AM

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^uhmm,

Oct 26, 2013 5:07 PM

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Great episode! Had me on the edge of my seat all the way through. Really curious as to who this fiend is. Despite the huge creepy factor, it was really sad when Saki and Satoru left the two women behind at the hospital - the one who was part of the group of 5 probably knew she'd never make it out of there alive.
Oct 30, 2013 1:28 PM

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Awesome episode ......
Jan 16, 2014 7:09 AM

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5/5

Episode engaging up to a certain point, the secret weapon was not so unlikely. Wish for something more original, was "just" a pure exercise of intellect, for now! ^ ^ "
Exceptional storytelling, anxiety and a feeling of unease was feeling as strong.
I would not give for granted that the user of Cantus was Mamoru, it could also be ...! No comments yet! XD
Drawings not a bad animations.
Feb 14, 2014 6:25 PM
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now it's starting fulfill the horror genre
Feb 28, 2014 8:41 PM

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This episode was fantastic, splendid, just brilliant!!!!! a thriller episode that was suspenseful, eerie, nerve-wrecking all in one! man I was so into this episode when it ended I was highly upset but I am marathoning this so I don't have to wait a week :)
anyway one of the best episodes yet!

Apr 11, 2014 3:43 PM

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Wow....never thought that this would be soo dark.... O.O
Apr 28, 2014 6:55 PM

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Well, now we can guess that the fiend is Maria and Mamoru child. But I just wonder how he ended up with the queerats, especially Squealer. He's really smart, but Maria was completely on her guard when she left with Mamoru, I doubt she would have fallen in a ruse.

Anyway, it look like their village will be annihilated. This fucking show... Now one wins.

All the episode was so fucking stressing. The fact that the fiend look more like a beast than a human is fucking scary. I have to continue, but at the same time, I'll go to bed soon, what do I do?!? xD
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Jun 16, 2014 7:40 PM

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This is where the horror shines in now.
Jun 27, 2014 1:11 PM

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I hate it when they don't say something just to add some forced suspense. Just say the fucking word already. Everyone knows it's either a Karma Demon or a Fiend so not saying it is just plain annoying rather than suspenseful. Other than that, it was a another great episode. Been a while since I was on the edge of my seat while watching anything.
Jul 7, 2014 4:09 PM

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Definitely upped the intensity and suspense. The begs-an-answer "he" that guy kept referring to was pretty tedious.
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Jul 21, 2014 3:11 PM

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Now, this was so fucking tense. Finally get to see a real live Ogre, huh. I'm still thinking it's Maria and/or Mamoru.
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Aug 2, 2014 3:43 AM

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:/ all that talk about staying in group, and first thing they do when they find the ospital violated they split..

so it is a fiend, who given the timing is controlled by the queerats, crap, they're pretty screwed..

thinking back at the reason they can't do anything against fiends, if only they hadn't been genetically modified to be unable to harm others, fiends wouldn't be such a big treat, not more than a normal armed person between other armed persons :/

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Sep 2, 2014 12:36 PM

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So a fiend is lose in the village again and somehow Sqealer is controlling it??? Omg now it is following Saki and Satouri o_o .Obviously that fiend/karma demon is not from the village but could really be Mamoru? But according to Satouru grandmother,Maria and Mamouru are dead? but are they really dead or did they somehow manage to fake their deaths and go in hiding with the queer rats? So many questions and little answers....
Sep 10, 2014 11:06 AM

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Finally a good episode... about time they stopped just talking and introduced some horror elements.
Nov 6, 2014 4:09 PM

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Wow. These last few episodes have been damn intense. This one made me a bit sad too...


Poor Maria :( (have to assume it's her). Though if that's Maria, then what about Mamoru? Hmmmmm.
Mar 7, 2015 12:54 PM
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A terrifying episode. You can really feel it jump at you through the screen.

It must be either Shun or some offspring from Maria and Mamoru. I wonder how they'll fight against that.
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Apr 21, 2015 5:41 AM

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Wow this was intense!! I'm still a bit confused, but it's okay! I loved it <3
Apr 26, 2015 3:38 AM

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Everyone else basically already said all I could possibly say. This is the most intense and horrifying episode of the series so far.

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I gotta say, this 12 year timeskip is the best thing that happened to this anime. It has been phenomenal since then.

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May 10, 2015 2:05 AM

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God damn that was creepy. I was not expecting that horror in my Shinsekai Yori.
That door scene was freaking intense.
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May 10, 2015 8:44 AM

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Shit, this episode is scary as hell. Last time I got spooked legit was Higurashi

Why am I watching this late at night ._.
May 21, 2015 10:20 AM
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Amazing episode, kept me on the edge of the seat.
Jul 2, 2015 6:11 PM
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This episode was terrifying and suspenseful. Brilliant.
Jul 13, 2015 12:10 AM
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they went to help their team mate whose hospitalized but found out a horrifying truth to everything , so the trump card that bastard rat had was an "orge" that rat used "it" against the fight with the giant hornet and then use it to attack humans :3 oh..god...i actually had chills and felt so cold watching this episode :3
Jul 22, 2015 12:39 PM

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Im guessing the fiend is Maria. Yakomaru probably did some experiments to her and now they're using her as a weapon.
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Sep 30, 2015 9:22 AM

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Xynic said:
Im guessing the fiend is Maria. Yakomaru probably did some experiments to her and now they're using her as a weapon.


At first Maria made sense, but to be fair Maria isnt that kinf of person, unless she's drastically changed over time. (which is possible)

Really intense episode though and the animation was really good, the facial expressions while burning down the queerats behind them or talking to the patients of the hospital.
Dont think it's Maria anymore though, would just be way to strange.

Loved it.
Nov 2, 2015 6:26 AM

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PrOxAnto said:
Xynic said:
Im guessing the fiend is Maria. Yakomaru probably did some experiments to her and now they're using her as a weapon.


At first Maria made sense, but to be fair Maria isnt that kinf of person, unless she's drastically changed over time. (which is possible)

Really intense episode though and the animation was really good, the facial expressions while burning down the queerats behind them or talking to the patients of the hospital.
Dont think it's Maria anymore though, would just be way to strange.

Loved it.


From the previous episodes material, I think Maria might have been drugged or lobotomized or something.

Jan 5, 2016 11:47 PM

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It's either Maria, Mamoru (hence "he" in the Portuguese translation) or their child.

Some people seem to forget that in the end of episode 2 or 3 it's said that if it wasn't for MARIA many people would've been saved.
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