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The subtitles are in! Enjoy your wish coming through!
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BTW the coal guys apparently got the message so they removed the karaoke completely. Better than that crap in #8.
Sleep well after this! I did! A good healthy 8~9 HOURS! :D
THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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I have never shed tears T_T this much since first seeing Clannad but I did not feel sad during this. Knowing what that sensei did, my tears were tears of happiness because that SOB piece of ***** (will not even go any further as the hate is too much) is finally DEAD! That's right! He is burned by the catholic fires of hell's punishment.

In Japanese they call it Ten Batsu! T_T Finally I am able to sleep well tonight after finishing this.

So Amamiya sensei's trigger was a portrait of Yuuko by Yuu. Well finally someone pushed the magical button! :D Great since the sensei beat up a lot Yuu and before that slapped Yuuko+Pushed into the wall Yuuko+Made her most likely emotionally enough disturbed to cut herself+hugs her to show affection (affection my *** more like advantge of playing with ones emotions), I think that is enough. I was at the edge of my seat during the whole scene of Yuuko being abused by sensei.

The film part was a nice art touch. Nagi confrontation of Yuuko was also nice, especially during her running in front of Yuuko to confront her about Yuu.

The sensei painting like a maniac made me scared. I was also wondering where the hell is Yuu's steel pipe he was using in #7. Just one shift blow to the head would have ended things well. ;)

In any case really happy about the first part cause the sensei is dead!

The second part I hated cause Kuze is not stopping his bitching about the disease. Just stop the bitching about the disease and take the meds. After live on and not to worry about the disease that makes it way worst.

Finally I hope Mizuki also finds great happiness.

Finally a question to all: What is the meaning behind the sudden saying of something we cannot hear of present Himura to Mizuki once she mentions the statue being Yuuko Amamiya? Please do not tell me Yuu cemented into a statue Yuuko because of something of the past.

1.Glad the SOB sensei is dead and burned to death. I had much hatred and now it is gone thanks to him being dead! T_T+^_^
2.I wonder what awaits Mizuki and Kuze on the rooftop? A happy first time? Would be nice memories to Kuze. I would know because I am virgin still waiting for such a time, just click on my signature banner it's there.

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BTW very nice to see Kei and Chihiro once again. Wonder why Kei gives her key also? I though making a long review is the least such a nice series deserves although I have to study! Arrrrgh! Ok see you!

After subtitles thoughts.

I though it was the stupiest reason to think for Amamiya sensei that the whole reason of his abuse is the blaming of the earthquake and the death of his sister, which somehow looks like Yuuko to him.

So Yuu drew his sister and that looked like the sensei's sister which would probably about the same should Yuu have drawn Yuuko instead since Yuuko looks like sensei's sister anyways. BTW I understand Yuuko about hurting herself but that's not the way. I know I do it too but that's my problem. Hurting yourself might be solution to painful feelings but the scars will not go away.

Kuze really has to think like this:

I think those changes would be good for Kuze, let's see if it is going to be so in #10 since now the envelope seems to be something written but with THE KEY to Otowa's Academy rooftop.

This disturbed me and I find no logic even if for the personal reasons to such a beautiful person like Yuuko to hurt herself like that. Yuuko...T_T

A WAAAAAH you've watched it already? DANG, i hope it comes out soon. but it seems that the mystery of Yuuko hasn't been revealed so yes, finally I can calm the **** down and chill till next week. HAHA I'm so excited, a lot of my friends never got past the first season of Ef and I can't understand why! i've got to say that this is one of my favorite animes of all time haha. too bad it has to end so soon though.

Yuuko's brother says "あいつは俺と同じだ" about Himura, but I'm still not sure why he thinks that..and then he goes batshit insane when he sees the sketch. I don't know, I feel kind of bad for his death, but then again, not really.

Wait..hold on..after seeing the preview for next week, it seems like Mizuki knows Yuuko. How??

Hi Pete_CG! IN answer to your question: most likely the only answer we have is that Mizuki knew Yuuko Amamiya. It is not certain how but most likely either relatives told her or certain old friends of maybe her family or entourage.

Very shocking indeed made me go as far as me assuming this: "Please do not tell me Yuu cemented into a statue Yuuko because of something of the past. " I know I might be going over the board but why would Mizuki refer the statue as Yuuko or even mention Yuuko in relation to that statue. It was there before with Yuuko yet why would it be referred to Yuuko?

I wonder and could put in romaji what you just wrote in Japanese. I might find something since I have books at home.

(あいつは俺と同じだ=he's the same as me[for slayer]) is probably refering to the fact that they both were at the earthquake site and both lost their little sisters. As you probably already know, Amamiya was angry and envious of the fact that Yuu could have died at the site while Amamiya never had the opportunity.
And yea Amamiya is prolly mindblown and Amamiya thought the sketch that Yuu drew of Yuuko had the face identical to his little sister. I kinda felt pity for the one guy I hated in the series.



And for Slayer's quote Mizuki knows Yuuko because Yuuko awaits Yuu at the church in the reflected town in Japan(where the 2 meet). I'm pretty sure the 2 main settings are the 2 almost identical cities in Japan and Australia where Yuu is waiting for Yuuko in the AUS church and Yuuko is waiting for Yuu in the JP church. Mizuki probably met Yuuko in the JP church idk, it may have even happened in Tale of Memories and I've forgotten.

Anyone else believe that the Mizuki plot is being pushed off to the side a bit or is iit just because I am more into the Yuu/Yuuko plot?

Haven't you seen the picture in the ending of almost every episode? =o Little Mizuki, Yuko and mystery man whose face isn't shown. And Mizuki's from Japan, which is where Yuko is (or at least in spirit), since people like Miyako and Hiro used to see her.

Yu pissed me off more than Amamiya did, heh. We know Amamiya's a jerk, but.. Yu actually releasing her hand to go help him, after abandoning her so many other times now.. he is just making her worse. He needs to redeem himself. =x

Are you sure he let go? I swear you could see Yuko still holding Yuu back even until the black blur out screen. The two were on the right side of the screen and Amamiya was just standing there on the left side in the whole scene. It's harder to see Amamiya on the left side but if you look carefully I'm sure you'll catch the 2 on the right side.

I'm pretty sure that's just because the roof collapsed on Amamiya. He pulled away from her at least twice, to go and help her rapist. D:

Finally I have some time. Yes you are right. He did but I think it was only because he wanted to prove to Amamiya sensei that he was not going to run away even if it was to save that SOB. I think also that Amamiya sensei screwed with his mind in #8 with Yuu running away from his sister.

In the end I hated the fact he would he go save that Amamiya sensei SOB. I also for the first after watching this and writing my post slept 9 healthy hours when I only sleep 5 because of my studies. :P


No, Mizuki's plot is coming along fine in my opinion.

wow, some great cliffhangers there. really painful to see how kuze is doing now. but the end surprised me, i wonder why mizuki know yuuko.

Sooo goooodddddddd like always :)

I think I remember Yuuko talking to Mizuki in Ef a tales of memories, but that's maybe just me.

The roof didn't collapsed on Amamiya, it collapsed in mid way of Yu and him, you still saw Amamiya farter after the roof collapse.

A letter of challenge hum, seem like Mizuki remembered the song he played, I guess she want to challenge him to violin, even if she lose I guess that she want to show him that he still have something in his life.

A bit ironic meh:

Mizuku: Someone you don't know
Yu: who?
Mizuku: Amamiya Yuuko

He's probably the dude who know her the most on the planet.

Anyway long life to Ef =3.

Amamiya's death was a little dragged out. After the 2nd cutback i got the point -_-;
that was the only bad thing in this episode. I loved the filmstrip imagery and the parallelism btw Himura and Yuuko.

Kuze/Mizuki's story took an upturn this episode. Kuze is finally starting to face his true feelings and Mizuki understood how to get through to him.

Can't wait to see chibi Mizuki. ^^;;

Wow, I am lost for words. The end just took me for surprise. How does Mizuki know Yuuko?


True Dat. I wonder what he said in the end. Can't wait for the next episode.

Much much much better than the last episode with all the new effects that were implemented so perfectly!!! I loved the filmstrip, the parallelism, the crimson burning fire, that crazily designed blade, the long shadow of Kuze, the masks coming out of the wall, etc.

And what's nice is I can generally expect to see Yuu/Yuuko in the first half and Mizuki/Kuze in the second half. Although there is a lot more emphasis on Yuu/Yuuko, I think it's fair enough since I'm more interested in them. XD

It's a real shocker to find out Mizuki knows Yuuko. I'm quite sure they never had a scene together in the first season. But that cliffhanger is what's getting me so excited for the next episode! I can't wait!



I understand why, lol! I had the same problem. It took me forever to finish the first season mainly because I find the pacing too slow and there was just too much talking with not enough of a "deep" and "mysterious" aura to drag me in. Also, I was quite annoyed by Miyako and Kei for the first and second half, respectively, which made it worse.

Another great episode. The animations were nice as usual, personally I liked the fire, it's really well done. And it's a little sad that Amamiya is dead. Of course, he deserves to be hated for whatever he's done, but he is actually a really sad man. I think I sympathise him more than I hate him now.
And it's actually quite noticable in the ED that Mizuki knows Yuuko even if you didn't play the game/visual novel, the picture at the end includes young Mizuki, Yuuko and another guy whom we currently have no clue about. Personally, I didn't play the game, but I did see the opening of it, so I guess I could confirm that statement. :P

yay, the asshole's dead. Can't wait for next episode, this 2nd season is awesome.

The ending really left me intrigued.. I wonder how she's related to Yuuko, I'm much more interested in that part of the story (Yuuko's)

Amamiya burned himself... kinda saw that coming.

Also, I couldn't really tell the difference in the OP this time around, anyone noticed anything?

Yes, I think that Yuuko's history is much more interesting than Mizuki's too =D

I can't stop watching the Fire seen. Its beautiful. Also, Tenmon, you are awesome here and in the reat of the episode.

The only thing I noticed was some different coloring like the "pinky strings" were different colors. Mizuki's hair was constantly colored a pale green and the split page of with Yuuko at the center had colors, one of them being green. Then of course the title was green too. So I believe the episode's theme was "hope".