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| Damn what a sad episode :/ but man it sure was good! |
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| Another very sad episode but I'm starting to wish they would abandon the "focus character dies" formula. I love the art and atmosphere and Luna being alive brings new interesting possibilites to this story. |
| "Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov |
noteDhero said: Your opinion means shit to the other 90% who thought this episode was goodkashim said: Possibly the best art direction in this series so far. It is what makes CS unique and awesome at the same time. Totally disagree...that goes to the last episode for me. Yet another focus character dies at the end...so surprising. M_A said: bad writing can make anything happen/not happen. Exactly. |
| agh shit it hurts the scene where Niko and Ringo were playing around with that soldier robot ......ofuk mane saddest episode thus far Next ep's preview looked interfesting. I'm starting to feel Dio's resemblance to Griffith (just because of that helmet thing). Shit. The unique character designs remind me of Disgaea's. |
| ; / Bolton was the star of the episode for me. Once some seemingly minute-antagonist, to a despairing cripple, to finding meaning in beauty and then suddenly losing it. |
 Can a robot experience loss? Can a robot create lores? Can a robot develop faith? I've seen a lot of anime, films and books deal with robot emotions and sentience, but not exactly like Casshern is doing. Bolton was essentially a one-off character, but seeing him go from a nameless thug to a tragic wreck was quite the 22 minute journey. It made him, perhaps, the most interesting character thus far, surpassing even the reoccurring characters in my eyes. It's short and quick of course, and I doubt it'll be looked into in depth, but at least the thought is there. While I considered it, I don't think it was ever stated how long the Ruin has been going on. With this episode, it's told that it has gone on for years. I don't know how time has affected the robots, as their rules for being are rather arbitrary. They're just as humans as humans, just with more metal and flesh. Because of this though, it's hard to tell how old these characters are. A child robot could very well be a hundred years old, and a large, bulky robot could have just been created. It's hard to tell their mental age as well, since these could have been programmed. The rules for robotics aren't exactly clear in this universe, but it does leave for a lot of interpretation. That aside, I'm starting to appreciate Casshern Sins' colorful and whimsical approach to lightening up the show's mood. In other serious shows, I would have berated a them for blending comedic scenes into an otherwise dark, gritty setting. The setup just doesn't work, and the clash becomes an insincere way of capturing a general audience. Such shows become too afraid of picking a single tone. It can't be too serious or it'll kill the mood, but it can't be too chipper or else people won't stay invested. Yet, these shows jump between the two extremes, becoming disjointed and off putting. Casshern Sins, even during its cutesy moments, never relinquishes its solemn feeling of dreariness. There's always this heavy undertone that never goes away, which shows a great respect to its setting and story. Casshern Sins is very consistent in this regard, and it's the primary reason why I'm still enjoying this show, despite myself not particularly liking depressing atmospheres. |
| It was a nice episode about handicap. Casshern Sins deals with depressing stuff like time flying by and acceptance of death, but in a curiously soothing way. |
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| Another sad story, good episode. |
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| I don't get why this has such a low score? This episode was good also. Ssaddest yet imo. Every episode had something interesting until now. |
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johnyjohny said: I don't get why this has such a low score? This episode was good also. Ssaddest yet imo. Every episode had something interesting until now. Because its deeper than your average show. People expected robots killing robots and mindless action. Instead got robots contemplating existence and finality of death. |
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| i just started watching this serie, omg this episode was so sad, i really felt bad while watching it, its been a long time since some media made me feel sad, but im really enjoying this show ;) |
| Nico dying was really sad... but seeing Bolton cry at the end of the episode got to me really hard. I started crying :( |
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| I never considered they might have meant to hint that Luna was still alive until I read this thread, I assumed it was another baseless rumor like "devour Casshern!". Dammit, I really hope they don't go that route. |
| Tbh this Anime's plot is non-existent at this point. I hope the plot progresses. |
| BIG OOF. That was way too sad. Also, Luna is not dead !? |
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| Nico was such a nice girl... This series can be really unfair sometimes. I have the worse memory and can't seem to remember if I cried or not. Maybe I was more upset? because this seems to happen a lot - wild robots attacking innocents but sometime Nico becomes a victim this time? I probably was upset. This is the first time Casshern was actually emotionally upset. |
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| Oh my gosh this episode... This episode... It was just so good but at the same time so difficult to watch... It wins a well-deserved spot in my all-time favorite anime episodes but man wasn't it depressing. This show is so good at making me feel emotionally attached to characters I don't know. Wow. Seriously I feel like this episode is gonna stay in my mind for quite a time. Poor Nico, poor little Nico, I wanted so much for her to get a happy ending, I am just so sad for her, I spent the entire episode thinking about how she needed to be protected at all cost... My heart. It hurts. And I feel so bad for everyone else. Ringo who lost a friend. Lyuze who also knew Nico and clearly cared about her. Bolton, this good ol'Bolton I didn't know 20 minutes ago but who I care about just as if I'd always known him (I got so scared for him during the fight) and who now is all alone... I hope they'll find him alive when they come back, but I have a very, very bad feeling. And Casshern, this poor Casshern, losing someone once again... I was very surprised when he promised Nico he would make her meet Luna. It's not the first time we see him caring about someone, far from it, but it is the first time we see him showing it so strongly. It just makes the scene all the harder to watch. I honestly don't care about the criticisms regarding this show. If it's boring, slow-paced, too gloomy or whatever. This show is one that hits you right in the feels in the simplest way. It doesn't try to make up drama that lasts for dozens of episodes, it doesn't try to make you feel for characters you don't care about. It just manages to make you care about people you don't know, just like that, in a matter of minutes. Maybe it doesn't work for anyone, but for me, it does. All those characters feel so human, so real, this is just beautiful in my opinion. For me this is exactly how to write tragic stories. By putting your heart into it. I love this show so much, I'm considering more and more giving it a 10 despite its flaws. Now excuse me while I go cry a river. Edit : I just read some of the comments on this thread... It saddens me how people always criticise things no matter what. Sometimes, the heart that has been put into a show is what makes it exceptional. |
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| that robot crying at the end :( |
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| Man, I'm not really feeling this anime but damn it if this episode didn't make me emotional. It might not be an original story but I really liked Niko and I think Bolton's VA did a phenomenal job in this episode. Bolton is really what makes this episode. |
| Pretty solid episode to return to after taking a long break from this series. Although I hate to admit it, I'm also in the camp of feeling sad when Niko died. I'm usually more emotionally detached wherever characters with mental disabilities are concerned because I often find that their depictions are manipulative and disingenuous, but the twist with her suffering from a defect in her hardware was different in a way I couldn't prepare myself for. That being said, I don't understand why Niko was killed or even why the other robots were so anal about her and Ringo in the first place. I assume it comes from their anger about being left to die, but projecting that onto someone who is defenseless and innocent is pretty absurd to me. My best guess is that those robots were bitter about dying sooner than her and so wanted to go out as rashly and destructively as possible, but the episode could have done a better job at portraying that, especially since I consider the one-off characters in this show to have pretty solid characterisations thus far. Someone else has already made the observation in this thread, but the uncanny resemblance one of the songs in this episode has with Yuna's theme from Final Fantasy X has really got me drawing all kinds of comparisons. While I have some hangups with the story and symbolism of FFX, I like the journey it takes me on and how it looks at life and mortality from multiple perspectives, which is something I think can also be said about Casshern Sins. |
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| I don't get what the purpose of her death was supposed to represent. Is there like a deeper meaning to what's going on in the story? |
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