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| Jasdavid can split himself in two characters, maybe the Earl has the same power. When Allen resurrected Mana Walker, he did it with the Earl's powers. So the at this moment the Earl was already Mana Campbell. I don't think the Earl taugh Mana Walker the way to drive the ark. And Mana Walker teach it to Allen during his life. So Mana Walker and Mana Campbell had the same memory, but not the same personnality. It's maybe why the Earl didn't kill Allen when he was a kid. |
| Yes, Jasdevi does but they're twins. Mana Campbell's brother was Nea. Can you explain a little more about why you feel they need to be two people? I already gave you some points (two posts ago) explaining how Mana and the Earl (human face) have similar features in their appearance, and the Earl (in ch 187) remembers what should be past Mana's memories. You haven't answered those points. I think Mana's childhood illness (ch 214 flashback) was a sign he was going to become the Earl. There is a lot of emphasis on whether Mana will ever wake up, while little Nea is talking to their mother. Prior to that, in chapter 203, Apocryphos warned Link not to let Allen fall asleep or he would never wake up as himself. Later, in chapter 212, Allen falls asleep and Johnny says it's not a "normal sleep," but that he must be "fighting with the 14th's memory." It's not conclusive but it's a strong sign Mana might have been fighting the Earl's memory even from childhood. |
whitetear said: Yes, Jasdevi does but they're twins. In the chapter 187, we can the real form of the Earl (with a sword) and 12 apostles on his side, so I think Jasdavid is the real form of the 10th and the 11th. whitetear said: Can you explain a little more about why you feel they need to be two people ?. The chapters you gave me don't prove Mana Walker = Mana Campbell. And more in the chapter 187, Wisley said the Earl has lived during 7000 years whence the name "the Millennium Earl", so we have two characters (two Mana), because Mana Walker is dead. En the chapter 187 we can see the Earl think about Nea but not Allen. So Mana Walker isn't Mana Campbell but they both can drive the Ark for a unknown reason. |
amenboy972 said: There are 12 apostles by the Earl because "the 14th" is not included with them. Wisely even says "the memories of the second to the 13th apostle." (notice that from 2 to 13 = twelve apostles)In the chapter 187, we can the real form of the Earl (with a sword) and 12 apostles on his side, so I think Jasdavid is the real form of the 10th and the 11th. Anyway, that's new. I've never ever heard of anyone trying to claim the 10th and 11th Noah disciples were actually one person before. I'm pretty sure they themselves state on the Ark that they can *become* one person and not that they're reverting to their "true self" by becoming one woman. The Noahs are numbered for *real* people from 7k years ago. It makes no sense to count a single "real" person twice-- they may not have even had powers yet when they were numbered! But most importantly, if they're Noahs of "Bonds," then their power should be to *bond together* and not to *divide/separate* from each other. I'm going to stick with the general consensus, and the way I believe Hoshino has always described them-- as twins. Again, you're the first person I've seen try to claim there are *two* Manas. Occam's Razor: The most obvious conclusion everyone else I've discussed this with has automatically come to is that the name "Walker" was mistaken, just like the name "Allen" was apparently a "mistake" (according to Cross). We don't have enough evidence to rule it out yet but I can say for now that having two Manas is very convoluted and highly unnecessary. Not only is there need of evidence for that, there's need of a reason for there to be two of them. Now, for the third time, rather than just saying you disagree or ignoring them, please properly refute the points I've provided. I'll repeat them below, and highlight some more: 1. Earl has a flashback that corresponds to memories that would fit the Mana of 35 years ago. (ch 187). 2. The Earl calls Mana and Nea's Campbell's mother "Okaasama," a very polite term, which strongly implies he sees her as his own mother. (Ch 218) 3. Mana's childhood illness suspiciously resembles the deep sleep before becoming a Noah 4. Cross talks about Mana and Nea being brothers but he calls them "Walker," if anything at all. Yet in the flashback in chapter 214, Nea talks to their mother about Mana and the Campbell family. Most people take this as a pretty good indication there's a naming discrepancy, and not that there are multiple Manas. The chapters you gave me don't prove Mana Walker = Mana Campbell. And more in the chapter 187, Wisley said the Earl has lived during 7000 years whence the name "the Millennium Earl", so we have two characters (two Mana), because Mana Walker is dead. Wisely didn't say HOW the Earl lived for 7000 years. If the Earl is partially based on the Count of Saint Germain, as Wikipedia states, he can easily enjoy the same kind of immortality as in the legend of the Count: via passing the same consciousness through multiple bodies.En the chapter 187 we can see the Earl think about Nea but not Allen. So Mana Walker isn't Mana Campbell but they both can drive the Ark for a unknown reason. What difference does it make if he thinks about Allen? It's even been said that Mana was a little crazy after his dog died and that he named Allen (formerly nameless and known as "Red" because of his red arm) after the dog because he thought Allen *was* the dog. Names are not that reliable in this story. I mean look at Allen's dream in chapter 184. Every time Mana calls his "name," it changes more and more away from Allen. |
| sorry I said a mistake : On this page there are 11 apostles and the Earl in the middle with a sword: http://www.mangareader.net/210-27347-11/dgray-man/chapter-187.html Can you explain this ? The Earl never die during 7000 years (chapter 187), so I think he cannot be Mana Walker . If the Earl think about Allen (flashbacks), so that proves he have the Mana Walker's memories. If I' m wrong, it's not a problem. Maybe you' re right.. why not... |
| Earl + 12 Noah: Yes, that's what I was talking about. The Earl (Noah #1) + the next 12 = Noahs #1 to #13. Noah #14 is not "protecting" the Earl. That's obvious even before chapter 188 where the 14th says he will succeed at killing the Earl this time, just as he tried to do 35 years before. Doesn't sound much like he's there to "protect" the Earl, does it? It's perfectly clear if you read that whole section. They don't talk about the 14th until Wisely brings him up offhand after the discussion about 13 Noah is *over*. Then Road says to shut up about him because it's a "personal matter." And Wisely doesn't even call Nea "the 14th." Instead, he calls him "that guy." Earl living continuously: As I said before, The Earl's character is partially based on the legend of a man who lived for centuries by *changing bodies*. When he swaps bodies, he keeps all his old memories. Wisely didn't say the Earl has live in the same body for 7000 years. Mana could easily just be the Earl's latest body. Mana Walker/Campbell thing (just so you can be absolutely sure): If there were two separate Manas, you wouldn't have Allen saying this: 167, p. 8: http://www.mangareader.net/210-15258-8/dgray-man/chapter-167.html And in the chapter before that, Cross outright states Mana Walker was Nea's older brother: 166, p. 11: http://www.mangareader.net/210-15257-11/dgray-man/chapter-166.html |
| The chapter 166 proves that Mana walker cannot be the Earl because, he was with Nea, when Nea betrayed the Noah clan. Thank you. On this picture, there are the Earl + 11 Noahs. You can count them they are eleven, not twelve. http://www.mangareader.net/210-27347-11/dgray-man/chapter-187.html |
| That Mana was "with" Nea up until the end means nothing if Mana and the Earl occupy the same body. xD Maybe if I explain more, you'll see what I mean. If you agree or not after that is up to you. 1. The way those of us who believe the Mana = Earl theory see it is that Mana 35 years ago was just like Allen is right now: struggling to keep the Noah memory *away* and stay a regular human. 2. Nea and Mana tried to run away from the other Noah clan members, but as we've been seeing with Allen, it's impossible for a Noah to hide from the other Noah... so Nea had to fight to protect Mana. Unfortunately, despite all that, the Earl gained enough control to finally kill Nea. 3. Obviously Mana came back after Nea died, but remember what Cross said? Mana was never the same after his brother died and had probably gone insane. Could it be that Mana lost control, let the Earl kill his (mother and) brother, and is so wracked with guilt (Allen's hallucination of Mana from Nea's memory in 212: "Do you hate me?" AND 218; Earl hallucinates Mana saying "Nea... I am sorry, Nea..."). What did we just see in chapter 218? The Earl is insane too! Coincidence yes, but there are a *LOT* of these "coincidences" going on. What did we see in chapter 187 (and then again at least one more time during the NA Incident)? The Earl has a fond memory of, and feelings for, Nea that resemble Mana's likely feelings about his younger brother. (The Earl even *calls* the 14th his brother at at least one point-- I personally think that's out of his *confusion* rather than it having to do with them both being Noahs.) *Looks* like Hoshino could be giving signs that Mana is still fighting back from deep within the Earl's mind. Here are some subtle yet compelling hints: a) In chapter 205, Road said Nea "fought for Mana." b) and that's after quoting his last words for Mana See both here: http://www.mangahere.com/manga/d_gray_man/c205/26.html http://www.mangahere.com/manga/d_gray_man/c205/27.html "But it's a secret," she says before disappearing. So what's the secret? Maybe it's the same thing to do with the 14th that she told Wisely to shut up about in chapter 187, because it's a "private matter." :> It could also be what Road and the Earl are talking about where they first appear in chapter 188: http://img1.d-gray-man.com/image.php?id=188&what=18 http://img1.d-gray-man.com/image.php?id=188&what=19 Now check out what the Earl says just two pages later): http://www.d-gray-man.com/manga/image.php?id=188&what=21 "I as the Millennium Earl can't stop..." and "I can't allow myself to stop, no matter what." Sound familiar?! Remember, what Road said in 205? These were Nea's *last words* and they were for *Mana.* (**Note: Most sites have that translation that says he must "keep standing," which makes no sense in context, regardless of whether you believe this theory or not. I think that's gotten people very confused...**) These sorts of subtle hints, once you start to notice them, are everywhere! 4. In chapter 214, Nea says he'll keep his promise to Mana. We think Nea promised that if Mana became the Earl for good, he would kill him (like Kanda intends to do if Allen "permanently" becomes Nea, though we know that won't likely happen) and become the new Earl (which Nea says he's going to do in chapter 188, I believe). So to us, these "secret" words, and the rest of the "private matter" between the Earl and the 14th is looking more and more like the Earl = Mana, and Nea chose to take Mana's side instead of joining the Earl. We think because he's clearly gone quite insane-- probably from the grief over killing his own brother-- the Earl's mind is just too *scrambled* to remember things clearly, much like Allen's too scrambled to remember 35 years ago, much to the 14th's chagrin. **** BTW I may have spoken too soon about the twins being one person (in the present)! You may be right about that one. Except I think that what it might be, as others I've discussed it with think, is that 7000 years ago they *were* two people, but every time they reincarnated, they were born from a single regular human. So ORIGINALLY they were two people, but because their Noah power is shared, they always *reincarnate from one person.* I still think the picture should have matched the text then, but whatever. :D |
whitetearJan 27, 2013 11:46 AM
| Da fuq is going on with this chapter?!?!?!?!? I understood nothing...primarily because the speech bubbles didn't exactly tell me who was saying what. Is Allen Mana and the Earl killed Allen's/Mana's mother? Or is the Earl Mana and then Allen killed Earl's/Mana's mother? Is Nea Allen, Mana, and the Earl all rolled into one and one of them killed somebody's mother and don't remember? LMAO! I think I just confused myself even more. To hell with it! Bring on my boyfriend, Tyki Mikk! |
Hannah_AnaJan 31, 2013 4:21 AM
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| Did you read my post right before yours? If the theory I and the others on another forum have worked out is true (and I'd say it's very convincing), it will explain what the arc is about and make 218 make a lot more sense. |
| Yes, you can compare those images to chapter 206 (see my whole post on the page before for links) where there's a slight glimpse of Mana's real face (no clown make-up), and it's from Cross' POV. He has the same hat, sideburns, beard, and moustache. Also, because 219 is delayed, I recently read the last D.Gray-Man Reverse novel chapter (which is canon), about Mana and Allen. Among other hints, it describes Mana having "golden eyes" twice (it's his most distinguishing feature to the little boy "Red," now known as Allen)-- like a Noah! --and calls him a "broken puppet" with "cut strings" or similar, three different times. I consider the "puppet" thing significant because "puppet" and "doll" are both "ningyou" (人形) in Japanese, and in chapter 198, Nea calls both Allen and the Earl "ningyou." (Which also reminds me how when the Earl and Allen in his Crown Clown form meet in Edo, they're compared as clowns-- like *Mana* and Allen were clowns.) There's more from that novel chapter, but it'd spoil it for those who might want to read. (imo it's worth reading, but very very sad.) Keep in mind, a possible alternate title to D.Gray-Man was "Dolls." So I suspect that the "doll" and "puppet" thing is very significant. And this is only the *latest* stuff I've noticed. Taking all of it together, that is one heck of a series of coincidences. So I'm certain Mana is at *least* a Noah like Nea, if not the Earl himself. |
| Haha, the last time I read DGM was pretty long time ago... Forgot who is Nea :'D And da fuq just happend? What's actually happening, what's this story about? And omg, why is Earl a bishie? Damn, Hoshino, what have u done to DGM? I'm sooooo confused xD |
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| It all makes perfectly fine sense. Sadly, hiatuses have led to people forgetting things, and certain unclear/incorrect translations have confused people. The Earl's human form was shown AGES ago, before the North American incident and then a couple more times since then. Allen is NOT Mana, though his eye might be connected to him or house part of his soul or something like that. There is a strong possibility that the Earl is Mana, or they are at least very deeply connected. If so, this will probably be revealed soon. |
| This is confusing but man, i can't wait for the story to clear and blow me away. I'm loving all these twists. |
I think the thing that makes this really unclear is just how similar some characters look to other characters. It's really hard for me to keep them all straight, especially with the changing hairstyles. I think I need to re-read the whole thing like 5/6 times in order to fully comprehend what just happened. I agree with this. I made a comment somewhere else about how I thought some of the characters are looking too similar and I'm glad I'm not alone in thinking that. |
| Lots of artists have either improved or changed their style during the course of a series and people are able to adjust. In this case I think the problem is really people forgetting things due to hiatuses, and faulty translations. Because seriously, I could probably mention a few of things that people here probably don't even know about or have the wrong impression of due to certain scanlations out there... |
taydev said: Oh no, guys! D: Scroll down for the news here: http://www.narutoforums.com/showthread.php?t=816073&page=18 I hope Hoshino gets well and when she does, D. Gray-man will be moved to another magazine. Aw man, I thought something was off... too bad. Hope she gets well soon. Wonder what magazine it might move to though. This could be another long wait for the next chapter. |
taydev said: Although it seems legit (and I wouldn't doubt it the way things have been going), I haven't found the news anywhere else. Looks like Shueshia has dropped Hoshino completely and she'll have to get picked up by another publisher if she wishes to continue DGM. thanks for info though, I'll keep an eye out. |
| Hi Madd. Thanks for your response. I was hoping to find some people who wanted to have a discussion in here, but I guess people have forgotten so much it's hard for them to keep the story straight in their heads without rereading. IMO it's well worth the reread, but that's up to each individual to decide I guess. @EVERYONE: I've seen the notice in Japanese. It's an indefinite hiatus (like the ones before), not a complete cancellation of the series. Don't fall for that cancellation hoax. They've said there will be a note about the return of the series in the margins of the magazine, once Hoshino is able to continue again. |
whitetearMar 6, 2013 7:16 AM
| By the time I finish the anime I'm reading the manga, is it good? |
| End Zionazism |
| Of course it depends what kind of stories you prefer, but it's excellent, imo. The anime ends right where the story is starting to get really good, imo. The last couple of arcs are the best they've got in the anime. When you continue on to the manga, there's a comedic arc but then things will start to get much darker. You'll learn more about the Noah, Kanda's past, and other things. There's also a lot of symbolism and subtle foreshadowing hidden in the story if you're looking closely, but you don't have to find those to enjoy it. I recommend you give it a try (and not just the humorous arc, ofc). |
Mikasa said: By the time I finish the anime I'm reading the manga, is it good? the anime is worth watching, the manga is worth to be read.. the fact that the anime and the manga are both in my favourite list on my MAL profile.. I recommend both of it! d^^b |
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| I can read Japanese and the headline on the notice definitely says "notice of temporary non-appearance in print." (emphasis mine). Anyway here's further explanation from where I believe the English language incarnation of the cancellation rumour originated (I guess it wasn't intentional on that person's part, s/he just repeated info from someone in Vietnam or whatever): http://dgray-man101.deviantart.com/blog/ |
| Sadly, there won't be anymore chapters. D.Gray-man has been cancelled due to Hoshino's health :( |
| "I don't want to live the dream because dreams always end when they get to the good part." - Sebastian Carmichael, A.R. Dragonfly |
| It's such a shame that a great manga has to end this way. But I won't lose hope that it will be continued some day. |
| *sigh* I just explained that this is an indefinite *hiatus* and not a cancellation. As taydev noted, no official source will tell you otherwise. |
taydev said: Oh no, guys! D: Scroll down for the news here: http://www.narutoforums.com/showthread.php?t=816073&page=18 I hope Hoshino gets well and when she does, D. Gray-man will be moved to another magazine. taydev said: cloud8100 said: Aw man, I thought something was off... too bad. Hope she gets well soon. Wonder what magazine it might move to though. This could be another long wait for the next chapter. Although it seems legit (and I wouldn't doubt it the way things have been going), I haven't found the news anywhere else. Looks like Shueshia has dropped Hoshino completely and she'll have to get picked up by another publisher if she wishes to continue DGM. It isn't really anywhere else... you're right. And I'm /really/ doubting the NarutoForums source anyway, because the YouTube link they provided with it was a fake (I don't think Nicholas Cage losing his sh*t has anything to do with the publication of DGM?). Siding with whitetear ^ We all wish Hoshino the best, but I can make an assumption that her health isn't so bad she is able to do nothing, considering she was responsible for the character designs for Valvrave the Liberator. Hope she recovers soon, but her health is more important than the series, after all. |
| 'From my speeding car, I catch a glimpse through the trees of what looks like the ocean. Hope... a premonition. Every month, as I write, I am visited by such moments. The scene that follows is sometimes an ocean brighter than anything I could have imagined, sometimes a barren seashore littered with rocks, sometimes a place I once visited, sometimes a road that ends up going nowhere. I would like to end up at a heartbreakingly beautiful sea.' -Hiroyuki Asada, 2010 |
whitetear said: Tatarata said: Globe? You mean the hallucination of Mana crying over passed out/fainted/injured Nea?Hum, but who was the man inside the Earl's globe? Wasn't he Mana crying for Noa? Not that image. The man who looks like a Noah crying in the fight between the Earl and Allen. Is that Mana? |
| You mean inside the Earl's costume? That's the Millennium Earl himself-- his regular human (all Noah are still human, remember) body as seen in the middle of chapter 188 (where he magically puts the costume on while saying he "can't stand still" just like Mana would) and the beginning of 203 (where he's waking up in bed because he just suddenly knows Allen/Nea's in danger from Apocryphos-- and that's why Tyki and Road went to help him). The Earl looks strikingly like the middle-aged Mana Allen knew. He's the only character in the series who does, actually. And isn't it convenient that despite being out of his costume for so many pages of 218, Allen hasn't seen the Earl's *face* yet because he was knocked into a wall and sprawled on the ground as Johnny approached. He hasn't had a chance to *look* at the Earl's face yet! |
HardyHaHa said: Someone brought that up earlier and I disagreed at first but I think he (she?) was correct about that in the end. I've had a look at the twins' song (in Japanese) and it strongly implies they were once one human baby but that at some point, "one cradle became two" if I recall correctly. Then in chapter 187 (which by coincidence for completely unrelated reasons I am currently skimming in Japanese) it is said they count as one Noah. I was aware of that before but I thought it meant they were two people with one shared Noah memory ("bonds," or 「絆」). Now I'm not so sure. While it's still possible they're two people with *one* Noah's soul, it really does look more now like they were in fact one *single* regular human before even awakening as a Noah.Actually it might be bad translation since i watched the subbed version since i don't speak Japanese but in episode 83 when they fuse, and swat krory away they explain that they were originally a single/one noah, in the manga again might be bad translation in 103 in that say scene (its manga 103 i believe) after fusing jasdevi explains basically the same thing explaining that the two are one noah. however im noticing so many people having difficulty figuring out what really going on There are two reasons for this and neither of them is that the story itself is confusing. Maybe a little challenging but nothing most people wouldn't be able to figure out with a little attention paid to a decent translation.However, unfortunately, a lot of people refuse to refresh their memories during/after a hiatus, and so have forgotten many things. For example some people read the latest chapter (218) and thought they were seeing an important character's face for the *first* time when in fact his face was actually shown in chapters 188 and 203 already. On top of that, scanlators out there have done what they could but they are not official translations and some have made some major errors. For example, I've discovered where a misunderstanding of some dialogue in one chapter led to one scanlator leaving out the one and only mention (!) of a certain character who is probably going to become very important later on. (That scene *might* be in the anime since it's from right before the HQ invasion arc, but it's been a while for me too so I can't remember if they cut it out.) Another scanlator changed an extremely important line of the Earl's from chapter 188 that is supposed to sound very familiar (!)-- I think it's an important clue --into something almost completely unrecognizable. I don't want to bash the scanlators-- they mostly did fine for the rest of it in each case-- but this is a licensed series and the official translation is always going to be the best. If you absolutely can't buy the volumes, borrow them at a library or at least join a site/forum where people can help you figure out what's what though. I'm happy to help clear things up for you if you want. I do love discussing DGM. :) and there seems to be so many confusion that holes are forming, one hole for me is krory's ability when he fought jadevi i would think the author would have gone the root of making what happened when krory blood left his body a kind of innocence evolution/activation/survival as with Allen and Lenalee, after all who can really fight consciously without any blood in there body and who can fight as blood with no heart or no brain. I know he isn't a main character like Allen and Lenalee but after that i really think his innocence should have evolved as there's did I totally agree Krory's blood battle was an oddity and perhaps requires further explanation, but it doesn't necessarily have to mean he goes crystal type (or "evolved"). Rather than that, I'd say it's more like how Allen's innocence supports his body when he can't move/fight on his own (esp. against akuma-Mana, Eliade, & the Lvl 4 battle) and protects his body when he's injured (which is further discussed later on, along with the "problem" of a Noah being supported by an innocence, incidentally).Weird innocence behaviour doesn't end with Lenalee's crystal type evolution. There's much more that might even help you better understand what went down with Krory... if you read further on... a next issue is Allen and Lenalee are the only ones shown to have forced there innocence to 100% activation, i had really expected to see the others do the same to fight the Noah clan in the ark as Tikki and just a few lv 3 akuma had beaten general yeegar so easily, it also makes me wonder if it was the forced 100% activation that allowed Allen's and Lenalee's innocence to jump start there evolution. Another character exceeds 100% later in the manga and what happens with that person relates to other questions you have as well...I know this is getting long but just bear with me alittle longer (and sorry for any typo or grammar errors) the whole Allen Noah genes thing seems rather foolish though i get what the author is doing, it has certainly be done before (think about the whole Underworld Hybrid warewolf vampire thing) but innocence is deadly to Noah's genes especially Allens' as he had sought to exorcise the Noah genes from Tikki how can Noah genes be following through his body the same time his innocence is doing the same thing. There a few things I can say about this but most of them are massive spoilers. x_xAnyway, remember when Allen thought he "exorcised" Tyki on the Ark? What actually happened was that although Tyki was definitely hurt (AND this is something Allen didn't expect to happen-- he only thought the Noah memory would go away and Tyki as a human being would be okay --it's important that Allen was wrong about that/i], btw), his Noah memory wasn't really weakened all that much and simply went berserk. Just before Kanda managed to kill Skinn Bolic, his inner Noah did the same thing (but too little too late in that case). If you choose to continue reading, you should remember these things because they relate to what happens later. Anyway thanks for reading i know that must have been hard with all my potential errors, so basically does the mana address these points and make them more believe able/ come together better, and with all the difficulties so many, maybe even you yourself might have understanding what is going on, is it really worth getting into the manga or am i going to end up disappointed like naruto shippuden. No worries. You only had a few typos really. Only thing I'm really wondering is what manga chapter you left off on so I can talk about stuff up to that point instead of only up to where the anime ended???Again i haven't read the mana yet, i am downloading them as i write this and will see what i come up with after reaching the latest chapters, these are just my two scents from what i have scene others mention. I hope reading through it will help you figure things out. I can help a little as well. Please say what chapter you left off on next time though? Then maybe we can answer your posts more precisely. Have a great weekend. :) |
whitetearMay 31, 2013 4:58 PM
whitetear said: On top of that, scanlators out there have done what they could but they are not official translations and some have made some major errors. For example, I've discovered where a misunderstanding of some dialogue in one chapter led to one scanlator leaving out the one and only mention (!) of a certain character who is probably going to become very important later on. (That scene *might* be in the anime since it's from right before the HQ invasion arc, but it's been a while for me too so I can't remember if they cut it out.) I'm interested in what you're referring to, because I can't think of what scene/mention that could be, anime or manga. I'm rewatching the anime with a friend(though I'm only about to start the Edo arc) but I want to keep an eye out for that now. Would you mind replying with spoilers or pming me? xD |
AlexTheRiotJun 4, 2013 12:12 PM
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| Official English version text from chapter 137: "We have one of those people who are out to fulfill the wishes of the Fourteenth. He's very old. He came to us for protection because he feared the Earl would kill him." Here's an image from chapter 137 by a scanlator who got that part right: |
| Ahhh thanks a bunch, I remember that now. Didn't think much of it then, but wow that's a huge difference from the scanlation I read. |
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| Glad it wasn't just me that was left confused as hell by this chapter. Now to wait until Hoshino finds the strength to continue the story. |
90s J-rock was our aesthetic peak. |
| Allen is Mana? Whaaaaaat.....? |
| (>'_')># ~Here's a waffle, please calm down... "See that? She's cute and popular. You could say that her milkshakes bring all the boys to the yard. But YOU club President... your milkshakes are wasted on you. In other words, you're wasteful." ~D-Frag (Best.Reference.Ever.) |
| No, Allen isn't Mana. He might have a small piece of Mana's soul/consciousness in his "cursed" eye though. :) |
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