symbv said: BigSimo said: Anybody who said something like this only shows more about himself than the target he spoke about LOLjapanese are retarded, horizon has more sales than bebop It's funny he said Japanese are retarded when he spent so many times watching anime created by... Japanese. Anyway, does anyone know the estimates for OniAi next week? |
SetsukoHara said: Anyway, does anyone know the estimates for OniAi next week? BDs are about 1900+ and DVDs are about 570+ |
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RyanSaotome said: Kaioshin_Sama said: Anyway if they care enough to mock other fans though (especially when there's a lot of crossover) they should care enough to notice that there's a couple shows that did even better, but they don't for obvious reasons. Why not pull their heads out of the sand for once and make note of these things sheesh? Thats because those shows are totally irrelevant to the discussion. A cheap HD Remaster of an old anime and a previous season anime have no bearing on a topic thats discussing Fall 2012 sales numbers. Who ever said the topical discussion ought to be limited to the current season. Sorry but this is silly reasoning to me. jmal said: Kaioshin_Sama said: Some people care way too much about sales as a means to justify their hobby and love of their favorite shows obviously. I don't know though this sure as hell sounds like pretty plausible Chuunibyou fan behavior on the internet from what I've encountered, totally oblivious to the point of mistaken arrogance. > implying this doesn't happen with every title with decent sales expectations Please don't cherry-pick examples to push a "KyoAni fans are especially bad" argument again, especially because antis (whether actual GirlPan fans or just trolls who don't care about either, almost doesn't matter which) had been mocking Chuunibyou constantly for months before this. If you follow the 2ch sales thread, this crap happens alllllllll the time, with allllllll sorts of shows. Antis like to stir up drama by pitting all sorts of shows against one another, and exaggerating every twist and turn in the rankings (someone will inevitably post an ンゴ comment any time a title drops). Some of it is lighthearted joking, but a lot of it isn't. It's always especially concentrated around the titles vying for the top, especially if they're coming out soon, no matter which titles they are. Sounds like some people love to live really vicariously through these things as I suspected. You know people are starting to take these things too seriously when it gets to that level. Strangely though I've never really heard this sort of talk around Gundam UC or various other sci-fi stuff that often moves a lot of units. I just can't help but feel that certain interest groups are always try to turn it around such that they are the victims of the trolling and like they never do anything to attract unpleasant discussions through their own behavior. I've repeatedly mentioned Jojo when talking about potential top sellers of the season, but it doesn't come out until January so yeah obviously it's not going to be discussed as much as shows coming out witb data right now. That aside, of course I'm going to be personally more invested in numbers for shows I like, that's perfectly normal. But I'm still interested in Jojo's sales just as I am in the sales of any show, especially those looking to sell well, from an academic perspective if nothing else. That is a good point actually. |
mistress_kisara said: SetsukoHara said: Anyway, does anyone know the estimates for OniAi next week? BDs are about 1900+ and DVDs are about 570+ And they added nipples too. How would it have done without added nipples? Ecchi just doesn't seem to sell. |
hpulley said: mistress_kisara said: SetsukoHara said: Anyway, does anyone know the estimates for OniAi next week? BDs are about 1900+ and DVDs are about 570+ And they added nipples too. How would it have done without added nipples? Ecchi just doesn't seem to sell. Don't say that in the week that TLRD moved 10k+ units. |
| I probably regret this post by now. |
hpulley said: mistress_kisara said: SetsukoHara said: Anyway, does anyone know the estimates for OniAi next week? BDs are about 1900+ and DVDs are about 570+ And they added nipples too. How would it have done without added nipples? Ecchi just doesn't seem to sell. *cough* strike witches *cough*(both seasons sold over 12k, and the move sold over ~37k if I remember correctly). The -monogatari series is also one of the best selling anime series. I think OniAi has more things that turn people away from buying it. |
Kaioshin_Sama said: Who ever said the topical discussion ought to be limited to the current season. Sorry but this is silly reasoning to me. Well for one its off topic, so mods would clean up those posts if people started to go on and on about an old box set in a Fall 2012 sales topic... but also, it really doesn't matter at all since Cowboy Bebop has always been popular, and people don't really look at BD boxset re-releases as very important. We know they will sell if its a popular series, so who cares. And there was enough Horizon stuff being said in the Summer topics, that filling up Fall topics with it would be silly. |
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| I should have said, ecchi or nipples alone don't sell. Popular series that have good stories can sell with ecchi or nipples perhaps adding a bit of appeal. |
hpulley said: I should have said, ecchi or nipples alone don't sell. Popular series that have good stories can sell with ecchi or nipples perhaps adding a bit of appeal. I can't disagree with that, its probably the reasons OniAi didn't sell that much. Its not like it does anything special compared to other ecchi shows/harems. |
GuiltyKing said: My last comment about GuP in this thread: It's awesome. I was an idiot for not watching it earlier so thanks to those who recommended it. Over and out. :> Even better on BD with 2.1 subwoofer rocking the house with every diesel, canon shot and shell explosion! February cannot come soon enough, too bad volume 2 is delayed :( |
| HELL YEWS for Chu2! :D |
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| So the uncesroed version of To Love Ru Darkness is in the Blu Ray right? Gotta get it when the release it over here. |
IceBurn said: So the uncesroed version of To Love Ru Darkness is in the Blu Ray right? Gotta get it when the release it over here. Nipples need no subtitles, import it now! |
| People still buying totoro. Maybe this is a Chistmas present, maybe not. Wow, Pokémon movies sell a lot, I think |
| Nice to see Psycho-Pass bring in those BD numbers. |
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| Winter 2013 Update - Maoyuu Maou Yuusha, Cuticle Tantei Inaba, Hakkenden, GJ-Bu, OreShura, Mondaiji are up at Stalker. :p |
mistress_kisaraDec 30, 2012 4:13 AM
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fertygo said: Actually I forgot to include JoJo when I said Little Busters and Magi may also make the 10k "big hit" line for their vol.1 sales. My bad. JoJo is generally well praised in Japanese forums and blogs and I have seen very little criticisms about the show. It got particular praise for its seiyuu performance as well as tasteful and skilful use of scene cuts and art expression, which is on display in abundance in its action scenes and OP/ED (which also shows really good pick of music), given the limited budget it seems to have . Since Part 2 is even more popular than Part 1, and so far the adaptation for Part 2 is also very favorably received, which helped the sales of Jojo BDs rise up in Amazon ranking the last few weeks. If I have to make a guess, I would say Jojo may have even better chance of breaking 10k for its vol.1 sales than Little Busters or Magi. Smh.. Either here or mania forum refuse to talk that JoJo are about to became big seller too ;_; rederoin said: Personally I would like OniAi to sell better than NakaImo, for the simple reason that I love the character design of OniAi far better and I love the seiyuu performance in OniAi more. And regarding whether it does anything special compared to other harem shows, here stands the difference between an indifferent watcher (you) and a discerning fan of harem genre (myself): To me the characters of Akiko, Ana and Arisa, what they do and the situation they fall into, are far more appealing than a lot of other harem shows I have seen (in particular Akiko, whose animation I notice often got particular care), to the point I am seriously contemplating about buying the BDs. Anyway, to me the addition of nipples do not really add that much of appeal though. At the end for harem shows it is the appeal of the characters and character interactions that counts most.hpulley said: I can't disagree with that, its probably the reasons OniAi didn't sell that much. Its not like it does anything special compared to other ecchi shows/harems.I should have said, ecchi or nipples alone don't sell. Popular series that have good stories can sell with ecchi or nipples perhaps adding a bit of appeal. |
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
symbv said: [...jojo sales expectations deleted...] rederoin said: Personally I would like OniAi to sell better than NakaImo, for the simple reason that I love the character design of OniAi far better and I love the seiyuu performance in OniAi more. And regarding whether it does anything special compared to other harem shows, here stands the difference between an indifferent watcher (you) and a discerning fan of harem genre (myself): To me the characters of Akiko, Ana and Arisa, what they do and the situation they fall into, are far more appealing than a lot of other harem shows I have seen (in particular Akiko, whose animation I notice often got particular care), to the point I am seriously contemplating about buying the BDs. Anyway, to me the addition of nipples do not really add that much of appeal though. At the end for harem shows it is the appeal of the characters and character interactions that counts most.hpulley said: I can't disagree with that, its probably the reasons OniAi didn't sell that much. Its not like it does anything special compared to other ecchi shows/harems.I should have said, ecchi or nipples alone don't sell. Popular series that have good stories can sell with ecchi or nipples perhaps adding a bit of appeal. I actually quite enjoyed Nakaimo. Not enough to buy the BDs or even the novels though I am tempted by the novels and the OVA. I thought the "have to get married within a year to inherit the company but watch out, you can't marry your sister" was really funny and well done and I enjoyed the seiyuu performances and character interactions. OniAi on the other hand was too much for me, too much of an ick factor on the imouto/oniichan thing, the kukuku/fufufu was layed on too thick for my liking. Perhaps I should give it another try but Nakaimo on the other hand had me looking forward to every week. Perhaps I didn't watch it long enough, only 3 episodes but OniAi didn't have enough to keep me watching and it had plenty to make me feel embarassed watching it. Just personal preference mind you! I also loved Dakara Boku Wa, H ga Dekinai and it seems I am in the minority with that Ecchi harem show. I bought and love the novels and manga for that one but not the BDs as I am not sure I want my kids running into the room while I'm watching it with Lisara running around topless for most of the show, nipples and all. |
hpulley said: For me, character design is a significant factor when it comes to harem shows, so OniAi got a head start even before the anime started to air when I find myself more attracted to the character design of OniAi than NakaImo. And story-wise, to me NakaImo only got really enjoyable after the midpoint of the series (the DNA extraction scene being the best). Personally the guessing game of who is the real sister is a bit boring to me. And besides the two main female characters, the other 3 somehow lack appeal (nor coverage) to me. I actually quite enjoyed Nakaimo. Not enough to buy the BDs or even the novels though I am tempted by the novels and the OVA. I thought the "have to get married within a year to inherit the company but watch out, you can't marry your sister" was really funny and well done and I enjoyed the seiyuu performances and character interactions. hpulley said: I think 3 episodes should be good enough to tell if you are really going to love the show, just like it or not going to like it. I believe a lot depends on if one finds the character Akiko adorable, funny and interesting. I think her character got almost everything right for me, and the fact that she is voiced by a seiyuu only 15 year old just adds to my amazement. (but she is still trumped by the seiyuu who voiced Arisa who is 14 years old!) . Perhaps I didn't watch it long enough, only 3 episodes but OniAi didn't have enough to keep me watching and it had plenty to make me feel embarassed watching it. hpulley said: Guess we may have some different tastes: I started with high expectation of BokuH but it ended up as my least favorite harem show of the season.... Of course it is all personal preference. And it is all very well -- it is good that different titles can attract different groups of buyers. And it all goes to show even for a much derided genre like harem it is not true that each show is the same as the others. For a fan of the genre they usually can tell the difference and know which one they like better..Just personal preference mind you! I also loved Dakara Boku Wa, H ga Dekinai and it seems I am in the minority with that Ecchi harem show. |
symbvDec 31, 2012 10:52 AM
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
symbv said: hpulley said: For me, character design is a significant factor when it comes to harem shows, so OniAi got a head start even before the anime started to air when I find myself more attracted to the character design of OniAi than NakaImo. And story-wise, to me NakaImo only got really enjoyable after the midpoint of the series (the DNA extraction scene being the best). Personally the guessing game of who is the real sister is a bit boring to me. And besides the two main female characters, the other 3 somehow lack appeal (nor coverage) to me. I actually quite enjoyed Nakaimo. Not enough to buy the BDs or even the novels though I am tempted by the novels and the OVA. I thought the "have to get married within a year to inherit the company but watch out, you can't marry your sister" was really funny and well done and I enjoyed the seiyuu performances and character interactions. I was attracted to the story of Nakaimo from the very start and I very much enjoyed the character designs of all his harem and his 'agent'. Again, different tastes, nothing wrong with that. Would have liked more covereage of many of the characters but alas, it was only a short series... I should really get the LNs as I suspect stuff was skipped. symbv said: hpulley said: I think 3 episodes should be good enough to tell if you are really going to love the show, just like it or not going to like it. I believe a lot depends on if one finds the character Akiko adorable, funny and interesting. I think her character got almost everything right for me, and the fact that she is voiced by a seiyuu only 15 year old just adds to my amazement. (but she is still trumped by the seiyuu who voiced Arisa who is 14 years old!) . Perhaps I didn't watch it long enough, only 3 episodes but OniAi didn't have enough to keep me watching and it had plenty to make me feel embarassed watching it. Oh wow, I didn't know they were so young. Quite the lines for them! Wonder if their mothers knew what they'd be saying??? symbv said: hpulley said: Guess we may have some different tastes: I started with high expectation of BokuH but it ended up as my least favorite harem show of the season.... Of course it is all personal preference. And it is all very well -- it is good that different titles can attract different groups of buyers. And it all goes to show even for a much derided genre like harem it is not true that each show is the same as the others. For a fan of the genre they usually can tell the difference and know which one they like better..Just personal preference mind you! I also loved Dakara Boku Wa, H ga Dekinai and it seems I am in the minority with that Ecchi harem show. I really enjoy the story of that one and the characters too. The light novels are super descriptive like many they read almost like a screenplay. Still it was great to see it animated. There are certainly many different harem styles. There are fight styles like Dakara Boku Wa and Campione! which I like. I suppose Total Eclipse is even somewhat of that style though different again. But I also like the more standard ones like Nakaimo. To call harem one genre is quite limiting. |
| Actually, Arises seiyuu is 13, and possibly 12 when she was recording the lines (turned 13 in August). |
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| My last BD of the year just arrived. Shinsekai Yori 2! Beautiful booklet with this one and event ticket though if the event requires a survey like the one for Tonari no Kaibutsu kun I may not bother. It has non-multiple choice answers. Pictures soon... |
RyanSaotome said: Just checked that Morohoshi Sumire's birthday is in April as confirmed by her blog http://ameblo.jp/smiley-suu/archive4-201204.html (and she was born in 1999) so most likely she was already 13 when she voiced that 12-year old character Arisa. To be honest, I quite enjoy all the performances I have seen she did so far, be it OniAi, Nobuna or Aikatsu. A newcomer with a lot of potential for sure.Actually, Arises seiyuu is 13, and possibly 12 when she was recording the lines (turned 13 in August). |
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
hpulley said: I'd be more concerned about their older brothers if they exist. I heard Akiko's VA has one.symbv said: hpulley said: I think 3 episodes should be good enough to tell if you are really going to love the show, just like it or not going to like it. I believe a lot depends on if one finds the character Akiko adorable, funny and interesting. I think her character got almost everything right for me, and the fact that she is voiced by a seiyuu only 15 year old just adds to my amazement. (but she is still trumped by the seiyuu who voiced Arisa who is 14 years old!) . Perhaps I didn't watch it long enough, only 3 episodes but OniAi didn't have enough to keep me watching and it had plenty to make me feel embarassed watching it. Oh wow, I didn't know they were so young. Quite the lines for them! Wonder if their mothers knew what they'd be saying??? There's one thing sure - she has great voice. Still needs to work on screaming though. |
Progeusz said: hpulley said: I'd be more concerned about their older brothers if they exist. I heard Akiko's VA has one.symbv said: hpulley said: I think 3 episodes should be good enough to tell if you are really going to love the show, just like it or not going to like it. I believe a lot depends on if one finds the character Akiko adorable, funny and interesting. I think her character got almost everything right for me, and the fact that she is voiced by a seiyuu only 15 year old just adds to my amazement. (but she is still trumped by the seiyuu who voiced Arisa who is 14 years old!) . Perhaps I didn't watch it long enough, only 3 episodes but OniAi didn't have enough to keep me watching and it had plenty to make me feel embarassed watching it. Oh wow, I didn't know they were so young. Quite the lines for them! Wonder if their mothers knew what they'd be saying??? There's one thing sure - she has great voice. Still needs to work on screaming though. Wonder what goes through their heads when they hear their imouto's saying "oniiiiiichannnnnn!!!" |
| Updated sales are out 14,458 01/07 Chuunibyou demo Koi ga Shitai! 13,550 01/06 Girls und Panzer 11,723 01/04 Gintama' Enchousen 10,214 01/06 To LOVE Ru Darkness 10,115 01/09 Little Busters *8,916 01/06 Hidamari Sketch x Honeycomb *5,864 03/07 K *5,659 01/08 Psycho Pass *2,494 01/07 Tonari no Kaibutsu-kun *2,392 01/06 Jormungand Perfect Order *1,759 01/08 Ixion Saga DT Bolded the new additions |
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| Was that list only new releases, or did none of the anime that came out last week get a 2nd week? |
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| LB did better than stalker estimates which is good. Not surprised it didn't sell nearly as well as previous Key titles though. |
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jmal said: RyanSaotome said: Updated sales are out Bolded the new additions That list was missing Kami-sama Hajimemashita which sold 3,155 on DVD, probably another 1500 on BD if it ranks. Formatted preliminary list with everything we have so far is here. Still waiting on the full list for the week. I'm guessing dtshyk will have his thread up soon too. These didn't rank at all, though the first two should get BD numbers in the full list, probably: Busou Shinki Onii-chan Dakedo Ai Sae Areba Kankenai yo ne Sukitte Ii na yo Zetsuen no Tempest Also for the record, no new anime coming out next week, at all. Wasn't Zetsuen no Tempest suppose to release on 1/23 according to CDJapan? |
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jmal said: mistress_kisara said: Wasn't Zetsuen no Tempest suppose to release on 1/23 according to CDJapan? Oh you're right, I wonder if it got delayed or if I just had the wrong date recorded. It did get delayed for a month when I checked the official website.. |
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