Does anyone else not like Kirito?

ssjokg said:
Tsukihime is shounen?I understand FSN but Tsukihime....

Excluding Shiki and Luffy(and Tatsuya sicne I dont know him)....The difference Kirito
has with the others is the show.If youhate the series he is in then you will hate the char.

And the only one from the above with a harem is Touma.The others either dont have OR have a totally different route for each girl.

Zeally said:


SHHH TSUKIHIME ANIME NEVER EXISTED

ssjokg said:
Thats why it's not a harem.If it was ever made I guess they would try to combine the routes abd make all the girls follow him.

insan3soldiern said:


That sounds pretty awful. I'd rather see it done like, say, Amagami SS.

ssjokg said:
How many eps per heroine?

insan3soldiern said:


No clue to be honest, I haven't finished all the routes. What do you think?

ssjokg said:

Nots sure.Maybe 12?

coolxal said:
I mean for a shounen series hero, he is pretty generic in cliches. OP, rapidly increasing harem, justice speeches, power of friendship and love conquers all (a.k.a. asspulls), etc.

But there's just something about his character/personality that is not likeable. Rather, it kinda annoys me watching him.

I don't mind the OP harem building shounen heroes like Tatsuya from Mahouka, Touma from Index, Simon from Gurren Lagann, Rin from Ao no Exorcist, Ichigo/Naruto/Luffy from the Big 3, Shiki from Tsukihime, etc. But Kirito... I just can't bring myself to like his character.

Takuan_Soho said:
Zeally said:
SHHH TSUKIHIME ANIME NEVER EXISTED


And now for case number 049.
Students you will remember from you introduction to psychology class that the stereotypical person suffering from denial is one who has passionately, so ardently believed in something that a great deal of the person's ego is involved as a means of achieving external validation and internal confirmation, that when they are confronted with a fact that contradicts this something, rather than adjust reality to omit this disquieting fact.

The classical study on this phenomena, which has the technical name of Cognitive Dissonance, was that of certain small Doomsday Cults once doomsday did not occur. These people before the date, sold their possessions, said goodbye to all their friends, and generally made it know that the final date was approaching. When the date past they were confronted with a dilemma: admit that they were wrong, or deny something and continue to believe what they believe. For many the choice is easy.

This particular case suffers from what we call "Type Moon" syndrome. So absolutely convinced that the products of this company is infinitely superior to other productions, particularly in transforming a game into an animated. Rather than admit that there is an absolutely horrendous Tsukihime animation that was so incredibly bad that, by comparison, SAO was that shimmering beacon on the hill for all the world to see, they have blotted it from their memories, condemning that particular animation to a black hole of existence. When you point out that it is listed on MAL, their browser will sudden not work and if you post a picture they will suddenly have an urgent desire to check their posting on the "Naruto and One Piece are crap" thread.

This is little that can be done for such self-delusion. Their identity is too invested in this "Type Moon", distorting any inkling of common sense from their minds, and are prone to violent fits of extreme denial. At such times it is best to pat them on their heads, and matter "Fate is Good, Fate is Great" which will immediately calm them down.

Edit: my apologies originally posted in wrong thread, moving it to where it belongs. Having log-out problems occasionally when I post and picked the wrong thread this time. Has anyone else noticed this problem since they improved security?

Zeally said:
wtf did i just read. Not even gonna bother. sounds like the words of schizophrenic lol...........

Candor said:
And here is our SAO thread for the week.

JeddyVII said:


Isn't there 20 new threads a week?

Toucanbird said:
I think he's alright as a MC. He's not the best MC in the world but he's far from the worst.

I mostly don't mind him because personality wise, I have a lot in common with him. I'm sort of a loner who can make friends but I don't exactly like calling them up and say "let's hang out on Saturday." Usually I'm the one that gets that message and usually my response is mixed depending on how I feel or how busy I am.

I'd say the only big difference is I'm not the "chick magnet" he is. I'm probably closer to Klein in that department. I'm not even really sure "how" Kirito is such a chick magnet. I mean, he's nice and all but really, is that all it takes to pick up girls? Not in my experience! lol j/k. I'm not exactly "begging" for chicks or anything, I'm just not real suave about it. I'm pretty quiet and reserved...not a real great attribute for picking up girls...wish I knew Kirito's secret, but anywho to get back on-topic...

I think "harem" is being really generalized if you consider SAO a "harem" anime. Like another poster said earlier, I consider a harem anime to be more of a collaboration where you don't exactly know who the lead character will end up with. While there is usually a "favorite" in those types of series, they still leave it open. SAO is more specific about it. You have girls that are "attracted" to Kirito but you can tell he isn't interested in any of them besides Asuna. That's not really a harem in my book, more like, one lucky bastard who has options if he wanted them but doesn't need them. The anime doesn't handle it so much like a harem either. You don't have scenes where Kirito is internally struggling to pick a girl that likes him. You KNOW Asuna is his girl and that's that.

EstelleBright said:
Who like yucky Guts ripoff Gary Stu?

JezusBull said:
it would be cool if in the last episode the God Hand appeared out of the blue and Femto rapped Asuna in front of Kirito, lol

eldon2 said:
I have nothing against Kirito because he only takes on about half of the extremely common tropes in anime for shounen. I admit he is emo at times, is simply a god compared to other characters, and tries to play both the comedic relief/ serious character. However his reasons for being emo are justified, he can not help being excellent at a specific skill he honed for years, and I generally enjoy the type of characters that can have a serious and funny side. He does stand out mostly by being different then most of the common shallow characters in shoenen anime who only excuse for fighting is protecting people in general, gets a power up every ten episodes, is amazing at a skill for no particular good reasons beyond being the chosen one, or has some combination of everything listed above.

Honestly I think he is a good character by anime standards and a welcome breath of air. Now if only the writer of SAO online didn't began the fan service quota half way through the first arc.

hyperknees91 said:

Now I get it, it's not an unbelievable situation. But it's a bit of an overreaction and rather selfish.

ssjokg said:
Well we have to move the story somehow.

hyperknees91 said:


I'm not saying that lawl. I'm just saying that his reason is hardly what you could call "justified"

I mean it's inherent in his character to be very self-centered so it does fit in with the story. So I'm not actually complaining.

ssjokg said:
I am complaining though.Not only SAO but many series give a reason that doesnt justify a char's actions.But we need those actions to let the story go on.The one think that I think "justifies" Kirito's actions is that he was 6 and emotionally stupid.But I doubt that he could "hack" and build pcs but he couldnt "understand his feelings".

Immahnoob said:

This is bullshit, in every way you take it.

You can be a "prodigy" and know about everything that is practical like building a PC or hacking it, whatever, but that does not make you socially adapt OR mature.

ssjokg said:
It also doesnt make sense to close himself in his room since they DO love him.I mean they even talk about it with his aunt/mother but he thought that the best option was to ignore Sugu and become a socially awkward boy?I dont have a problem with what the author of SAO or any other author did since it hardly affects my enjoyment.I just see it as a way to make story develop.

whatever123456 said:


I don't think you choose to become socially awkward.

whatever123456 said:


I don't think you choose to become socially awkward.

ssjokg said:
I am complaining though.Not only SAO but many series give a reason that doesnt justify a char's actions.But we need those actions to let the story go on.The one think that I think "justifies" Kirito's actions is that he was 6 and emotionally stupid.But I doubt that he could "hack" and build pcs but he couldnt "understand his feelings".

hyperknees91 said:


I thought the series said he was 10 when he learned this? It is strange for him to grow up so inherently self-centered when he is obviously very loved by his family. If he was strange since he was a kid it would be one thing but I don't think that was ever brought up and this only happened after he found out.

Immahnoob said:
I still don't see your point.

What does a 10 year old know about being loved or not? 10 year old kids don't understand jack shit about society or people.

Immahnoob said:
I still don't see your point.

What does a 10 year old know about being loved or not? 10 year old kids don't understand jack shit about society or people.