Q: Comparing Slam Dunk with Kuroko Baske. Is it BLASPHEMY?

Rannta said:

It's not necessary. The anime didn't cut almost nothing of the manga. The additions of the anime are some filler episodes (but really funny) and a couple of matches (quite good).
Said that, You'll need time to do the transition of reading a manga. So, If the manga original starts at volume 23, I recommend reading volume 22 (the end of ryonan match) to identify characters and to discover the inoue style of doing the matches (lot of details).

Candor said:
I think it fulfilled entertainment for everyone except basketball fans. I mean seriously, why would a basketball fan enjoy an anime where a character shoots a full-court 3-point with 100% accuracy? Or a guy who can counter that 100% accuracy 3-point shot with jumping as if he's jumping on a trampoline? Or a fast player who shoots with his eyes in his ass also with 100% accuracy? And a copy-cat who can master that 100% accuracy ballet shot with also the same power? Not to mention the guy who can fucking steal the ability with also a 100% accuracy and the same power. There are lots of examples to mention, but I don't think basketball fans, well most of them, can enjoy KnB.

Don't get me wrong, I really enjoyed KnB, but those things really irritate me to some points (I'm not a basketball fan), but I guess I was holding my expectations really high, I was expecting another SD, but I guess I was wrong, but still I'm really enjoying KnB (except the current game..)

Jonas said:
I'm still watching Slam Dunk (almost finished) at the moment, is it really worth it to read the beginning of Slam Dunk again? (starting at chp 1) or should I just read where the anime stopped? If the manga is much better, I would give it a try! Really like SD a lot. :)

Daimyo said:
IntroverTurtle has been in this thread for months defending Kuroko no Basuke. Seriously, are you being paid to promote Kuroko no Basuke?

The way you promote this show is unwieldy. Look, we get it, you like Kuroko no Basuke. Leave the poor Slam Dunk fans alone. Just because we prefer a show with a superior cast of characters and a more realistic storyline created by a more critically acclaimed and experienced mangaka does not mean we deserve to be harassed by a rabid fan of a lesser quality work.

Every time someone prefers Slam Dunk over Kuroko no basuke (incidentally in this thread quite often) you're right there trying to slit their throat. Your rebuttal for anyone who says Slam Dunk is better, "Well, ugh, we need to look at this objectively not subjectively." When you have a thread asking for people's opinions, you're bound to get subjective answers. No point in bellyaching each time this happens.

Get over the fact lots of people prefer Slam Dunk. All the strawmans and complaining in the world won't change that.

edit: Holy fermented shit! I just checked you've been on this thread since 2012!

hack5 said:
i try to watch slam dunk but just cant.the main character is a dick i hate him.i dont doubt hell get better at the sport but i hope he will become a better person,i just dont have the time to get through his shitty personality.
as a main character i wish he was more likeable.kuroko is what i like my main to be.the team gets along great and the games are not over the top long.i like the feels that knb gives me its not my favourite sports anime that goes to big windup, and so what if its unrealistic if the viewer enjoys the show it fulfill its purpose

dennisixa said:
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wtf...sakuragi is definitely a better character than the dull kuroko....

Epistemophile said:
Well I don't even play basketball and I can objectively state that Slam Dunk is leagues ahead of Kuroko no Basuke. I read both manga pretty recently, so there's no question of nostalgia value. Kuroko no Basuke is just another regular seasonal anime with bishounen characters, quality animation (if you consider the anime) and quirky superpowers, capitalizing on a recent trend of sport manga popularity, which we will more or less forget in a few years. Whereas in Slam Dunk's case, it pretty much introduced the game of basketball to Japan at it's time and is considered an all time classic of the entire Shounen genre, not just sport. A lot of people say that KnB's artwork is better Slam Dunk, but I respectfully disagree. To me, even though KnB's artwork is more aesthetically polished, it can never even hope to match the emotions that Inoue Takehiko manages to create in his work. Even if I completely disregard the unrealistic basketball issue, Slam Dunk still absolutely dominates in character development (Sakuragi, Mitsui, Rukawa), art (the proportions, positions, expressions), atmosphere, involvement (Even Sendoh got me more pumped than most KnB matches)and humour (Do I even need to explain this, Dou Ahou). And finally, the pure perfection of the Shohoku vs Sannoh match... Nah, my opinion is pretty clear, KnB is hopelessly and hilariously outmatched.

NobleDogy said:


Humor, what kind of humor, i started watching slam dunk not to long ago, and i'm at 77 episode at this moment... The main character in this anime is the biggest insult to the viewers i have ever saw... The humor in this anime is childish, the gori jokes, the constant stupidity of Sakuragi, the silly remarks of Rukawa made me want to bash my head into the wall. Character development?? Rukava didin't change at all in the process of the anime, gori is the same gori, the only one who changed i guess is Sakuragi, but again all the changed he achieved will be thrown away without a second though for some silly,annoying,insulting humor.... I don't know about the manga, but this anime is garbage, all the 10-9 ratings for this anime as if it's some kind of masterpiece are laughable, at best it's some overrated classic, that people can't stop praising for no good reason.

I rather would have rewatched Ashita no joe again, instead of this garbage, but not kind of person who leave an anime half finished, i just hope i wont jump out of the window by the end of this anime....

Epistemophile said:

Humour, I guess is pretty subjective, I (along with plenty of other people, going by the reviews and the status this manga has in Japan) found it quite hilarious, you don't find it funny, neither of us are wrong, it's just that we have different senses of humour.

The point you make about character development, though, I completely disagree with it.
Going character by character, first we have Mitsui, whose development from a delinquent to possibly the most dedicated player on the Shohoku team, his regrets, and his determination in the last game, if that's not character development, I don't know what is. Miyagi, whose role is often underappreciated, his inferiority complex due to his short stature, and how he finally overcomes these mental blocks. Akagi, the only case where I feel you could argue less character development, also has moments such as the match against Kainan, where his injury-related fears and self-doubt is handled brilliantly in the manga. Kogure, despite being a minor character, displays this in the match against Ryonan. Now coming to the big two, most of Rukawa's development is towards the end of the manga, which you probably won't have seen, and the pay-off is one of the greatest moments in the entire manga. And finally, if you question Sakuragi's development, a guy who started off with basketball as an excuse to get the girl, to the person who,I really can't decide how to respond. And the best part of Sakuragi's development is that it is gradual, you can almost see how he becomes a better player bit by bit, and I honestly think it is one of the best character development in the entirety of manga as a medium. The way the entire Shohoku team comes together at the last game is itself a huge moment of character development.

You judge one of the most proclaimed manga ever by not even reading the manga, and I believe that your thoughts about it ... 'this anime is garbage'... come off as too strong on considering you have just completed a little more than half of the anime, given that the anime itself is about half the manga. I believe that if you go into a particular series already thinking it to be massively overrated and bad overall, you'll never get to enjoy it, and your end judgement will be the same as your initial dismissal.

Ashita no Joe is indeed an underrated classic, but I do believe that both these manga share the same pedestal as iconic shounen, if only you give Slam Dunk a proper chance.