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Nov 24, 2012 7:26 AM
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Oh, Asuna actually escapes. I'm not too surprised although the things she found after she escaped was something else. Dem secrets of ALO and the horrors. That tentacle part was kinda weird lol even with a bite from Asuna. Too bad she gets recaptured later

The Suguha and Kirito part was okay I guess. It was somewhat heartwarming although there are concerns on Suguha's face. She still thinks about alot of things like ALO and her own thoughts even though she is somewhat cheered up. Hoping for more action next time tbh.

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Nov 24, 2012 7:46 AM
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That tentacle part was kinda weird lol.


This is already the best episode ever.
Nov 24, 2012 8:09 AM
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>no Jotunheimr
Well I expected as much since the events there is only significant for later on and won't affect the current story. But it's still a bummer that it got cut out.
No Caliber SS then if they decide to do a second season.

And too much tentacles for my liking... This'll be the hot topic for this week.
And Kirito didn't look too angry when he flew upwards. I was hoping for a sonicboom and he flew in a rage.
They did do the rejected Leafa well. Plus the details of Kirito going to school and more.
Decent still I guess. Next episode should be the fights. Should be good.


I think a "Forever Suguha" is in order with Leafa's crying here:
>baaaawww Onii-chan won't love me because he already has a girlfriend!
>Well, it's okay. I still have that cool guy I met in an online game.
>BAAAAAAWWWWW he's actually my Onii-chan!
Nov 24, 2012 8:10 AM
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I find the episode was great. Asuna in the beginning was very sneaky and lovely in expressions.

About the tentacle service, as the episode went the tentacle rape part in the following,

Was very modest and nice. It’s enticing elements:
– Seeing Asuna’s body being raped by being rolled in and squeezed by tentacles
– Seeing Asuna’s expressions while suffering such hardcore squeezing of the tentacles.
– Seeing Asuna being orally raped in the following,
http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/bb480/Yumekichi11/Picture%2039/1353770229163_zpsf0810236.jpg
Apart from being squeezed rape was excellent.
– Seeing Asuna in such position was savouring.
I think I will stop there but remember this before you bitch no hardcore stuff makes this part aright IMO. That means none of the hentai/borderline stuff of more hardcore that some anticipated. So I can say that it was really well done and moderately. Not too much not too little, a blend of balance between cock-teasing and modesty of not showing much skin. Instead maximizing on the Oral Action of Asuna’s mouth and squeezing.

Other than I ROFL at Suguha when she got at the back of he neck.

I find Suguha very emotional and give out my TEAR to her expressions and tear streams in thee end.

About thee end, looks like Asuna miserable got caught and a Wind Gust sweeps in…why?

BTW End Art in the spoiler
has a purpose to discuss. Do you think the art of Asuna was made to be nothing of a sexual pose towards invitation for sex with her?
Cause it seems exactly like that TBH for me. I think it’s clearly to remind of how great the sexualization of Asuna’s tentacle rape treatment was.

I agree it was very enticing and modest once again. So is the art BTW just I want to discuss the meaning of it.
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requesting GIF of the tentacle part! lol
Not until I get my mp4 shit in 720p. For now join in the club. I should post them juicy parts soon enough. I have yet to organize all my thoughts from this episode. Too busy recovering from that tentacle rape scene. Oh the giggles.
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Nov 24, 2012 8:26 AM
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Not as bad as I expected, actually not bad at all.

The episode moved the plot forward and helped to develop the characters, setting up some of the things that are to come.

The added scenes (including the tentacle fanservice) helped to compensate for a dialog heavy episode, it allowed a better development of Asuna showing that she isn't the helpless damsel in distress (actually better than in the LN, the first time I could say this), and it showed the petty evilness of Sugou's staff members which will help later in the series. This is was the first time the adaptation went beyond merely transcribing and actually adapted. Good job.

The fanservice since it flowed from the plot and will help certain viewers through the slow plot development was fine, it didn't have that forced desperate feeling of the past several episodes.

So overall good episode. Got through the slow part of the novel well enough, set the stage for the final 3-4 episode climax and ended with a cliffhanger predicting the action is coming, so people should be looking forward to the next episode.
Nov 24, 2012 8:28 AM
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ihateeveryone said:
Stark700 said:
That tentacle part was kinda weird lol.


This is already the best episode ever.
this
Nov 24, 2012 8:28 AM
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Wow, the town that has the "Sekaijuu"...

Her escape failed, but she saw something. Wow, so sick, a lab with controlling people's feelings.

In the real life, they still don't know they were together online. So he missed the highschool opportunity because of the online game. Upon meeting Asuna, cousin girl realized that she should just put her feeling to herself.

At the end, Yui sensed Asuna...
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Nov 24, 2012 8:37 AM
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inb4 boring episode,no action...


Did the LN describe Sugou's staff and the brains like that?Anyway, probably when the ep isnt about fights they are better in adapting the LN.
Nov 24, 2012 9:03 AM
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inb4 boring episode,no action...


Did the LN describe Sugou's staff and the brains like that?Anyway, probably when the ep isnt about fights they are better in adapting the LN.
We had some tentacle action, if that counts...

The LN didn't say why Sugou's staff were like that(slugs). It's probably to lessen the guilt of the staff as they perform the experiments as one of them said that it "feels much more humane when doing this because the subjects are only dreaming"(paraphrased a bit).
The brains in each unit were described like that in the LN as well. Floating holographic brains.
Nov 24, 2012 9:44 AM

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Someone please explain how rape is excellent, modest, and nice.

Please.
Nov 24, 2012 10:00 AM

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belatkuro said:
ssjokg said:
inb4 boring episode,no action...


Did the LN describe Sugou's staff and the brains like that?Anyway, probably when the ep isnt about fights they are better in adapting the LN.
We had some tentacle action, if that counts...

The LN didn't say why Sugou's staff were like that(slugs). It's probably to lessen the guilt of the staff as they perform the experiments as one of them said that it "feels much more humane when doing this because the subjects are only dreaming"(paraphrased a bit).
The brains in each unit were described like that in the LN as well. Floating holographic brains.


Lawl, I have a different theory. I think it's because Sugou has such an inferiority complex that he has to make his staff look like the ugliest beings possible compared to him.
Nov 24, 2012 10:08 AM

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ihateeveryone said:
Someone please explain how rape is excellent, modest, and nice.

Please.


THIS. SO MUCH THIS.
Nov 24, 2012 10:23 AM

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belatkuro said:
ssjokg said:
inb4 boring episode,no action...


Did the LN describe Sugou's staff and the brains like that?Anyway, probably when the ep isnt about fights they are better in adapting the LN.
We had some tentacle action, if that counts...

The LN didn't say why Sugou's staff were like that(slugs). It's probably to lessen the guilt of the staff as they perform the experiments as one of them said that it "feels much more humane when doing this because the subjects are only dreaming"(paraphrased a bit).
The brains in each unit were described like that in the LN as well. Floating holographic brains.
Not why they were like this.I remember them being described like this but I didnt imagine them 100% slugs+tentacles.Just like I dont imagine Tonkii as a 100% mix of jellyfish and an elephant.

As for the brains I imagined them more gross even as holograms.I am not in the mood to look both it up in the LN.

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ihateeveryone said:
Someone please explain how rape is excellent, modest, and nice.

Please.


THIS. SO MUCH THIS.
Yumekichi is like two people using one account.From creating threads about ecchi being "over the top" to this.
Nov 24, 2012 10:34 AM

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So much was skipped, lol.
Well the animators or director, whoever it was, screwed themselves over with the planning of the episodes.

Those two slimeballs look even more revolting than I thought they would hahaha.


Nov 24, 2012 10:39 AM

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>no Jotunheimr
Well I expected as much since the events there is only significant for later on and won't affect the current story. But it's still a bummer that it got cut out.
No Caliber SS then if they decide to do a second season.

And too much tentacles for my liking... This'll be the hot topic for this week.
And Kirito didn't look too angry when he flew upwards. I was hoping for a sonicboom and he flew in a rage.
They did do the rejected Leafa well. Plus the details of Kirito going to school and more.
Decent still I guess. Next episode should be the fights. Should be good.


I think a "Forever Suguha" is in order with Leafa's crying here:
>baaaawww Onii-chan won't love me because he already has a girlfriend!
>Well, it's okay. I still have that cool guy I met in an online game.
>BAAAAAAWWWWW he's actually my Onii-chan!

Caliber can be animated even with skipping Jotunheimr here.They just have to make them save Tonkii in the Caliber arc.

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So much was skipped, lol.
Well the animators or director, whoever it was, screwed themselves over with the planning of the episodes.

Those two slimeballs look even more revolting than I thought they would hahaha.

Thank god they skipped Jotunheimr.Everything would be so fucking rushed(or even skipped) if they didnt.
Nov 24, 2012 11:16 AM

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ihateeveryone said:
Someone please explain how rape is excellent, modest, and nice.

Please.
Because it's fictional and just is not shown as 18 and over stuff.

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Nov 24, 2012 11:24 AM

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Yumekichi11 said:
ihateeveryone said:
Someone please explain how rape is excellent, modest, and nice.

Please.
Because it's fictional and just is not shown as 18 and over stuff.


So (for example) implied fictional rape is excellent then because it's not full blown out hentai.

I'm done.
Nov 24, 2012 11:29 AM

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ihateeveryone said:
Someone please explain how rape is excellent, modest, and nice.

Please.


Some people got sick tastes, not much more to be said.
Nov 24, 2012 11:40 AM

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lol rly, hentai tentacles... They must have really tried to put that in some how... was so random.
Nov 24, 2012 11:49 AM

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ihateeveryone said:
Someone please explain how rape is excellent, modest, and nice.

Please.

If you really want to fit in, just put Legend of the Galactic Heroes in your top 5 and have it be the only 10-rated anime in your list.
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Oh God tentacles >_<
Well Sugu's hearts been broken, and its going to break all over again pretty soon. Poor girl.

If you really want to fit in, just put Legend of the Galactic Heroes in your top 5 and have it be the only 10-rated anime in your list.
Nov 24, 2012 11:54 AM

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Kirito went all hot-headed as soon as his wife was mentioned.
Nov 24, 2012 11:58 AM

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What is with his Sister, I don't know why she really expected something romantic from Kirito, if she didn't she wouldn't have been so upset.
Nov 24, 2012 11:59 AM

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Meh, ok episode the tentacle part wasn't even needed why do they always have to be perverts?

And who takes that long to press the log out button -.-
I did like the school explanation and well that's about it, can't wait for Sugu to get rejected again.
Nov 24, 2012 12:06 PM

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They skip some parts from Light novel, Kirito was fighting under the water and also the part they save this one monster(forgot the name) underground

ahh yes the tenticle scene...another idea has been given to those sick freaks who makes hentai manga :/

Leafa/Suguha got owned in game and real life xD take a good look at Kirito and Asuna hahahaha "ahems" jk.. :|
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... Tentacle rape...


Nov 24, 2012 12:11 PM

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Welp that was a huge skip. Well I hope we get that flashback content in the Mother's Rosario arc.

Otherwise it's the same as I remember it. :)
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You know even if it's canon, I was really hoping they would take out those tentacle monsters...I mean seriously, they add nothing but distaste to the series. Couldn't they have at least redesigned them, I mean god..
Nov 24, 2012 12:15 PM

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Yeah, didn't think Asuna would be getting away that easily. She paid the price with tentacle molestation.
Nov 24, 2012 12:21 PM

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Pretty good episode whenever Kirito was on the screen interacting with Imouto and answering questions and stuff and so sad for her broken heart if only she that that is Kirito in game and such, however, I guess there is no win for her situation since both in game and out of game he is with Weaksuna. World building with the school stuff was the part I enjoyed most, hope we get a school arc?

The rest was just plain awkward and not that Im not used to it since Ive seen tons of good fanart of my favorite characters and even Kirito with it...but just Asuna and such was plain weird and awkward and kind of creepy, especially when it even went into her dress, did not want to ever see that or even any tentacles with her
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InfiniteDestiny said:
ihateeveryone said:
Someone please explain how rape is excellent, modest, and nice.

Please.


Some people got sick tastes, not much more to be said.


Meh, I wont hold it against the series too much since I've seen worse and it's not the first time I've seen it. It's only when people make comments like that that I get pissed.

Now to wait for the episode to download.
Nov 24, 2012 12:29 PM

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poor suguha, i feel for her. i know that feeling and it really hurts.. i really like the part when she said, "I'm in love with my brother. But I can't share those feelings. I have to bury them deep in my heart. So that I can forget them someday."
Nov 24, 2012 12:33 PM

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Apart from the obviously amazing and emotional episode 14, this is the best episode of the series.

The character development was great, and I'm glad they incorporated the real world again. Also they are moving closer to retrieving Asuna :'D Even if she is being tentacle raped OTL My frustration for Asuna when she was so close to logging out was painful. I JUST WANT HER AND KIRITO TO MAKE BOOTYFUL BABIES ;A;

On another note, Kirito is a perfect human being, my god, if he were real....

This episode was awesome, dying of excitement for next weeks episode!
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What is with his Sister, I don't know why she really expected something romantic from Kirito, if she didn't she wouldn't have been so upset.


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You want to keep your hopes up yet you probably know it won't work out for you
Nov 24, 2012 12:37 PM

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Pretty good episode but that tentacle scene was weird.
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Suguha should be upfront and stop it with the QQ. She either gets a yes or a no but she will feel better at then end.
I was hoping for asuna to wake up for a couple of sec as he walked in
huh?
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rul said:
What is with his Sister, I don't know why she really expected something romantic from Kirito, if she didn't she wouldn't have been so upset.


Suguha and Kirito were a very close sister brother team, Kirito then discovered on his own that the family he thought he had was actually his Aunt and Cousin. This discovery, combined with being extremely introverted (and it is implied he had been bullied (both by his grandfather and his classmates for an overly-girly face), he withdrew into the VR world.

Suguha, not knowing why was hurt by this, but before she was mature enough to find out what happened, Kirito was trapped in SAO. Suguha, helped to take care of him during this time as a loving sister. Towards the end of this time her mother told her that Kirito was her cousin.

Knowing this, she realized this was why Kirito had pulled away from her, but with him being trapped, she had no way of knowing what that discovery meant to him. At the same time, she didn't have the chance to confront Kirito to resolve her own feelings, but could only brood upon the ambiguity of the situation.

When Kirito awoke, she couldn't resolve this situation because he was in rehabilitation, and because of Kirito's obsession with Asuna. A lot of people have commented that this seems fake, that of course they would talk about this. That is a misunderstanding of Japanese culture, the Japanese are extremely reserved about such things, and Kirito's family are even more reserved than most. Such things just aren't talked about.

So you have a young girl, just past puberty trying to deal with a ton of conflicting emotions, getting even more emotionally distraught trying to support Kirito in his recovery with no one she trusts to discuss the matter with.

From my reading of the novel, what she really wanted more than romance (though she does have some fantasy and wish about that), was to matter to Kirito, to know that she meant something to him. I think the novel treated this fairly well. We shall see how the animation treats it.
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so kawaii...
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Kirito is so kakkoii.
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BTW I never said IRL nor implied it to be anything but that scene.


You know the first rule of getting out of a hole is to stop digging yourself deeper into the hole.
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alright...I'm 5 minutes into episode 21. You know Asuna can just jump off the ledge and use her wings as a parachute periodically (only to stop herself from free falling) to the base of the tree....

...correct me if I'm wrong
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It's quite ironic when you think back to that part as the following,

tends to stay way more inside of you.

BTW I am calling it first but I teared up for Suguha at that part and I am not sure for that matter if anyone else did.

And nope nothing would have stopped the emotional flow of that.

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Kirito is so hot-headed as soon as Yui mentions Asuna. Tentacle rape? Eh... really?
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Good episode, cant wait for next week. Kirito gonnna go ham
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alright...I'm 5 minutes into episode 21. You know Asuna can just jump off the ledge and use her wings as a parachute sporadically (only to stop herself from free falling) to the base of the tree....

...correct me if I'm wrong


1) Why would she know she has wings? SAO didn't have them and I doubt Suguo gave her a manual to skim through.
2) She just got out of a game where is she died, she really died. She is still using the same HeadGear system, why would she assume otherwise?
3) Even if she knew she wouldn't actually die, the fall could very well have killed her and a dead character would just be returned to where she was originally, probably letting Suguo know that she had escaped.
4) She knows the only real hope she has to escape is to log out, and where she went had the highest probability of having a Sys Admin console. She had no such assurance down below.
5) The second Sugou knows she escaped he could automatically put her back in the cage, so knowing her time is short, Asuna went for the best option to escape, nearly making it.

Nothing irrational there, just a smart, quick calculation of probability.
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cksdayoff said:
alright...I'm 5 minutes into episode 21. You know Asuna can just jump off the ledge and use her wings as a parachute periodically (only to stop herself from free falling) to the base of the tree....

...correct me if I'm wrong


True... But, if she did that, then I don't think she would be able to log out since her brain is literally trapped inside of the game; there wouldn't be any other option than to go to main console itself that is trapping her. Not to mention, if Sugou knew she had escaped into the world of Alfheim, then couldn't he just rewrite her brain to make her come back to him?
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That tentacle scene was so unnecessary and kinda got me pissed tbh. Even if it's canon, they could've easily changed it to something less perverse >.>.....

Well aside from the stupid scene, the ep was pretty good. I was so hoping for asuna to meet kirito though, even if it was just for a couple of minutes :S. guess it can't be that easy, huh?

3.5/5
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True... But, if she did that, then I don't think she would be able to log out. Not to mention, if Sugou knew she had escaped into the world of Alfheim, then couldn't he just rewrite her brain to make her come back to him?


His goal is to have the ability to rewrite what people think, that is what the experiments on the 300 other players is all about. Suguo has a god complex.

But no, he couldn't do that, but as Sys Admin he could instantaneously teleport her back to her cage with a system command. Remember that ability, because all the readers are hoping that it will be used 2-3 episodes from now :-)
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That tentacle rape scene was gross.

This show might not be half bad is the romance and characters were actually developed. I almost felt something when Kirito was holding Asuna's hand in the hospital.
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