Girls und Panzer Episode 6 Discussion

AiCon said:
It's a Focke-Achgelis Fa 223 Drache from WW2.

frid_kun said:
can anybody explain me, how could duck-team first outrun flag-sherman and then participate in the chase with top speed of 25 km/h?

Takuan_Soho said:
Good question. Answer is that the Type 89 had several models, the one you mentioned was the oldest, the I-Go mode, and could only do 16 mph. The one in the series, is the more powerful Chi-Ro, and was capable of speeds around 25 MPH, which is not that different from the Sherman.

http://mailer.fsu.edu/~akirk/tanks/japan/japan-tank.html

magic_kaito said:
Oh no, not her grandmother! Not the character we've never seen before or know nothing about and thus don't give a shit about at all!, please tell me shes alright, i dont think i can wait another week. Oh the pain, the pain of it all!

Do people actually find this series good or do they just enjoy it for the ridiculous Schluckly mess it is like i do?

magic_kaito said:
Oh no, not her grandmother! Not the character we've never seen before or know nothing about and thus don't give a shit about at all!, please tell me shes alright, i dont think i can wait another week. Oh the pain, the pain of it all!

Do people actually find this series good or do they just enjoy it for the ridiculous Schluckly mess it is like i do?

no_good_name said:
Does anybody know how many episodes girls und panzer will be?
I'm still waiting for my beloved tiger 1s and tiger 2s to make an appearance :D

zenjamibu said:
Preview pics for Girls und Panzer ep. 7 airing next week now up on their website: http://girls-und-panzer.jp/story_07.html



It's slated for 12 episodes.

Marzan said:
They really need to replace the 89 with another more capable tank. Otherwise they're going to be in trouble with Pravda and the sister's schools tanks. They seem to be really well armed.

Marzan said:
They really need to replace the 89 with another more capable tank. Otherwise they're going to be in trouble with Pravda and the sister's schools tanks. They seem to be really well armed.

Magito said:
Just looking at the devastation that Pravda and Maho's team did is just scary. Miho's team is gonna be massacred by them if they don't do something.

frid_kun said:
All but one of Oorai's tanks can be oneshoted by serious opponents. They already have two heavy tanks, with proper coordination, this should be sufficient.As i see it, Oorai school represents good old days of early blietzkrieg, when speed and tactics proved superior upon firepower and armor of french and russian tanks.
while devastating, tigers were weapon of desperation. they weren't suited for mobile offensive, but for static defense against overwhelming enemy force.

no_good_name said:
But the stug wasnt used as a tank destroyer during the early blitzkrieg, it was used as infantry support (it had the low velocity 75mm gun which made it useless against tanks)

Plus the tiger is just plain sexy, i dare you to say otherwise.

frid_kun said:
in 1943, Stug 3 was upgraded with new gun with improved AT capabilities. Character sheet stated that Oorai school has 1943 modification.

well, sexy or not, but they are going down, the hard way. :з

no_good_name said:
Indeed, the 1943 version was built due to it being alot cheaper then the STUNNING heavy panzers, this was due to germany having to fight a defensive war ( sadly blitzkrieg was a bit dead) i know you might be able to consider the ardenne offensive to be blitzkrieg but i think it lacked the tactical genius of Guderian and rommel.

frid_kun said:
i'm talking about the spirit rather then by_the_bоok definitions :з

not blietzkrieg exactly, but rather mobile offensive war was decently performed by the Red Army later in the war. Surprisingly enough, situation seem to mirror first years of the war. RA had lots of cheap and fast tanks, while Germany tried to hold them with massive behemoths. i wonder, what aspect of RA will Pravda team represent :3

no_good_name said:
Just letting everybody know that commie seems to have censored ep 6 (i posted about this last night but my posts vanished, must be a communist conspiracy)

Kittle said:


In what way did they censor the ep? Just wondering so I know if it's worth going and getting the ep again from somebody else.

Takuan_Soho said:
One of the things I love about animation is how good the staff usually are at fitting the music to the scene, and Girls Und Panzer in general, and this episode in particular was very good at this. The march they used when Mako was boarding the helicopter and the segue into the other "big" schools blitzing their opponents was excellent. The various american themed marches used in this episode was also very good.

The blitzing music was particularly interesting. It hints that the show is about to become darker. It is obvious that the SC is hiding a secret about what happens if Ooari loses, I had thought it was that the school (and the ship) was going to be closed and scrapped (I don't think it is a coincidence that their ship was so much smaller than St Gloriana), and while I still think this is the case, but I think there could very well be an even deeper meaning to this (that has to do with the civilization and why Senshado is so popular). Maybe I am reading too much into this, but the director definitely wants this to be a serious animation (otherwise he would be more accepting of fanservice), and I wouldn't put anything past him.

Amarrez said:


It's already been hinted at that Mako doesn't have parents, so obviously was being taken care of by grandparents or someone.

frid_kun said:
while devastating, tigers were weapon of desperation. they weren't suited for mobile offensive, but for static defense against overwhelming enemy force.

vakibo said:
Personally i don't understand why when Ourai had only three tanks, they put the Stug in the back, really sending the smallest tank to cover the flagtank. Otherwise highly enjoyable episode.

Interesting to look forward to the Pravda match, Pravda in polish and most likely other Slav languages means "truth". Hopefully they will use some T-72's.

And i wonder if the helicopter ride will be used to sabotage Ourai later.

Takuan_Soho said:
Another reason is I believe the Panzer IV was the fastest and most maneuverable tank, and one would want that for offense, not defense.

Sae said:

Actually, the StuG is supposed to be the most agile of what they have, but seeing that their Type 89 has about the twice its real-life speed...

Takuan_Soho said:
As for the Type 89. There was a variety of the Type 89 that was twice as fast as the first model of the Type 89, and I believe that somewhere they mentioned it was this version. Regardless, in trying to figure out agility, something on the Panzer IV wiki site had something I had thought previously, but did not have confirmation on. The MPH for tanks are based on roads, over terrain they were much slower. This would affect the faster tanks more than the slower tanks (on the same theory that a Ferrari and a Honda Civic would have the same speed over a potholed road). The wiki site said that the Panzer IV offroad speed was pretty much the same as the Type 89.

vakibo said:
Personally i don't understand why when Ourai had only three tanks, they put the Stug in the back, really sending the smallest tank to cover the flagtank. Otherwise highly enjoyable episode.

Interesting to look forward to the Pravda match, Pravda in polish and most likely other Slav languages means "truth". Hopefully they will use some T-72's.

And i wonder if the helicopter ride will be used to sabotage Ourai later.

Sae said:
Not really. Both 89's variants had roughly the same horsepower to move them, main difference being diesel engine substituted for gasoline one. And both have the same nominal maximum speed - 25 kph on road, turning to 10-15 kph on a rough terrain. True, even the faster tanks of the time, like Panzer III, managed just about 20 kph in the same conditions, so none of tanks in the show is as restrained by mundane physics as their real-life counterparts anyway.

Takuan_Soho said:


There was a third variant called the Type 89 Chi-Rho that was able to do 25 MPH. Posting site below. The only reason I knew to look was that the subtitlers on the 2nd episode specifically identified the tank as a Chi-Rho and I went searching for it. I have no idea where they got that information, since the spec sheets lists it as a Otsu, but in that they said so 4 episodes before it really mattered, it makes me think they go it from somewhere official.

http://mailer.fsu.edu/~akirk/tanks/japan/japan-tank.html

Takuan_Soho said:
There was a third variant called the Type 89 Chi-Rho that was able to do 25 MPH. Posting site below. The only reason I knew to look was that the subtitlers on the 2nd episode specifically identified the tank as a Chi-Rho and I went searching for it. I have no idea where they got that information, since the spec sheets lists it as a Otsu, but in that they said so 4 episodes before it really mattered, it makes me think they go it from somewhere official.

http://mailer.fsu.edu/~akirk/tanks/japan/japan-tank.html

Sae said:

I know that site, and would recommend to use Wikipedia, at the very least. For all its faults, WP has orders of magnitude less mistakes than that jumbled mess which can't even get the designations right. (how do you even manage to stumble on these Web 0.1 artifacts?)

no_good_name said:
It was still a crap tank even by 1930's standards, its the dud on team Ourai (i'm sure they just put it in because its japanese) it was only good for infantry support and blowing up.

vakibo said:
And i wonder if the helicopter ride will be used to sabotage Ourai later.

vakibo said:
most likely other Slav languages means "truth".

Hydnlife said:
That heli looks mad unsafe why would anyone ride in that thing?

Magito said:
Next episode we get to see Anchovy, the grandma who Mako is afraid to, and more on Miho's past.

We get to see Miho, Hana, and Yukari in casual clothes. Hana is a beauty.

Looking forward to next episode!

no_good_name said:

And yet still no tiger tank money shot

Takuan_Soho said:


Ah, leave it to Girls und Panzer for fans that get more excited by tank fanservice than character fanservice :-)