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| 5 out of 5: Loved it! | 113 | 86.92% | |
| 4 out of 5: Liked it | 9 | 6.92% | |
| 3 out of 5: It was OK | 3 | 2.31% | |
| 2 out of 5: Disliked it | 1 | 0.77% | |
| 1 out of 5: Hated it | 4 | 3.08% |
#41
11-15-08, 4:33 AM
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Kineta said: And still, even though my heart aches for her, she can't put the blame on Yuu. He was a child struggling with his own demons, and he could barely take care of his self, let alone her. And really, when an orphanage has someone willing to take a child, they usually don't keep the child unless there's a good reason for it. I understand that she needs someone and something to blame, but Yuu is not that person. And as a man who loves her, his pain is already enough. He's powerless to erase those marks from her body, and he probably doubts his ability to wipe them from her soul as well, just because he loves her. I don't think Yuuko was trying to put all the blame on Yuu. I would rather say that she was trying to find an answer "was it a fault or was it a fate?" Kineta said: I don't believe a girl would cry over a guy who she doesn't truly in love with.It pained me to see Nagi crying, although I must agree with AngelLily, that I don't think she was truly in love with Yuu. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
#42
11-15-08, 4:34 AM
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Metroid_Ex said: I'm at loss for words, this episode was overflowing with symbolism, and emotion. If only the entire anime was this good. Poor Yuuko (split second screen shot) On a second note, when will I get to hear ALL of Kuze's song? *mod edit* - Put large images in spoiler tags. YUKO! :( I AM SCREAMING MURDER TO AMAMIYA SENSEI! I watched this a few days ago but still is IN MY HEAD! Oops! I appear to be incapable of following Rules 16 and 17, so I had to have a mod change my sig for me. |
#43
11-15-08, 6:23 AM
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such intensity. |
#44
11-15-08, 7:20 AM
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HalberdierRetsel said: Brillant episode. End of story. As many have said, this is far worse than the Miyako epiosde in the first season. Absolutely horrific. I also agree, it was so emotional that I was waiting for her to start screaming! And when they did that scary eye thing I was genuinely scared because I wasn't expecting it. When she lowered her voice after being hysterical left me with shivers going down my spine, I wasn't expecting her story to be so horrible! |
#45
11-15-08, 7:50 AM
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Wow... that was so shocking. I felt as if I was slapped across my face. The symbolism is as amazing as ever, thanks to SHAFT's great work. This is finally showing the powerful storytelling that set memories apart form most other shows. The part when Yuuko was saying "I was burned. I was torn. I was cut into pieces..." had me speechless and I just started crying. Yumiko Nakajima did a great job and I hope she appears in other shows. I felt so sorry for Yuuko, but I do agree that it was unfair of her to blame Yuu. Nagi might not love Yuu. I think she was crying because Yuu and Kuze were leaving. I also felt as if she was crying for Yuuko because, for a second, they showed a painting of Yuuko crying. Anyway, I really like Nagi and find her a very interesting character. I really want to see how this will go but I think the next episode will shift the focus to Mizuki and Kuze since they were pretty much ignored this episode. I'm not that big of a fan of them but, when they appear, we get to see present Yuu, Yuuko and Nagi AND we get to see Season 1's characters. |
#46
11-15-08, 11:36 AM
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Woah, this ep is pure insanity and the art is just astonishing. Poor Yuuko... Best ep so far! |
#47
11-15-08, 11:53 AM
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I'm a bit disappointed... I guess it's the game's fault, but gah .___. Amamiya's character design screamed 'rapist!!' from the first moment he appeared on screen (though back then I expected him to rape Yuu or something D: he just looks that sick) For me, there wasn't anything unexpected in the episode, but the shock value was still infinite. SHAFT are really amazing for doing stuff the way they do, from the "empty" opening to Yuuko's monologue in the end. I'm now convinced that 'ef' is more than just another anime, it's an art form all by itself <3 Anyway, I missed Kuze and Mizuki in this episode... hope they'll be back next week. Knowing Mizuki, she won't just give up on him because Nagi says so, but honestly I have no idea how this can work out. I feel that Nagi is quite unfortunate, both boys she liked snatched away from her and all :/ |
#48
11-15-08, 12:20 PM
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this episode raped my mind, but i found it to be so pleasurable as i slowly understood what was going on. And wow, i am surprised, the events in this episode is totally unexpected for me. Looking foward to the next... |
#49
11-15-08, 12:45 PM
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The second half of this episode scared the crap out of me when I was watching it in the dark at 4 am. Looks like this series is finally getting better. |
#50
11-15-08, 12:52 PM
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Rather than try to tell two different stories...Melodies feel like Memories, but with different characters and slightly different set up. I feel like everything said, done, and drawn reminds me of something from the first series. Even the last bit...Yuuko's little breakdown...as brilliantly as it was executed, felt like what's her names breakdown over the phone in Memories. |
#52
11-15-08, 10:23 PM
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Wow what a turn around. Yuu and Yuuko were happily sitting on the school roof together and now they're practically torn apart. I'm really looking forward to seeing the aftermath of this situation, especially with Yuu. |
#53
11-16-08, 2:40 AM
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king4k2 said: didnt i mention in ep 5 forum knew yuko was raped by that art teacher loved the last part of "usoutski"- this part scared me though n btw was just it me or that at the last part of kuze n miyuki were similar artwork of sayonara zetsubou sensei ( i mean since its both made by shaft) ya and I also mentioned he might be beating her. I just wasn't sure if it was due to his art or not. The rape part kind of caught me off guard though. When she mentioned it I kind of threw up in my mouth a little bit. |
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11-16-08, 8:36 AM
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Kineta said: And still, even though my heart aches for her, she can't put the blame on Yuu. He was a child struggling with his own demons, and he could barely take care of his self, let alone her. And really, when an orphanage has someone willing to take a child, they usually don't keep the child unless there's a good reason for it. I agree. However, I'm sure in her misery she was searching for a reason as to why this happened, and how anything in the past could have changed that could give her a different future. If Yuu had accepted her back then, if he had said something else, if he had been honest, then she is right, things would have been different. Expect her to be rational while broken, that they were simply kids, I think that's asking too much, while she's still undergoing mental and physical pain. But the only person who can make her change is Yuu - who was probably broken by her words as well. Siva said: I don't believe a girl would cry over a guy who she doesn't truly in love with. Try losing the only people whom you can truly call friend. Male or female, it is an excruciating pain to think that you're losing the only people that seem to care about you, and that you're going to be alone. It doesn't really matter whether you have a supporting family, friends are needed no matter what because they begin a whole new realm to a person. You don't choose family, you're going to meet them and be with them for great part of your life, but cultivating friendship and trust is not so easy. Of course I could be wrong, but Nagi didn't seem to be crying only for Yuu, but for both Yuu and Kuze, and what they represent to her. Modified by AngelLily, 11-16-08, 8:42 AM |
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11-16-08, 10:14 AM
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AngelLily said: Well, I think everyone could understand you right here. But if only that was the case.Try losing the only people whom you can truly call friend. Male or female, it is an excruciating pain to think that you're losing the only people that seem to care about you, and that you're going to be alone. It doesn't really matter whether you have a supporting family, friends are needed no matter what because they begin a whole new realm to a person. You don't choose family, you're going to meet them and be with them for great part of your life, but cultivating friendship and trust is not so easy. AngelLily said: You should try to go back and watch that scene again. She might be mention about Kuze and Yuu are leaving her but only to made Yuu misunderstood her. Later, she fixed him and saying he was so slow but only to made herself realized that she the one who is slow. If I am the one who is wrong then it might be the script fault but I don't think it was the case.Of course I could be wrong, but Nagi didn't seem to be crying only for Yuu, but for both Yuu and Kuze, and what they represent to her. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
#56
11-16-08, 10:16 AM
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Or maybe it was supposed to be ambiguous? It might be Nagi's eerie personality that doesn't convince me she was in love with Yuu, though. Or maybe she believed she was. |
#57
11-16-08, 11:31 AM
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AngelLily said: Or maybe it was supposed to be ambiguous? It might be Nagi's eerie personality that doesn't convince me she was in love with Yuu, though. Or maybe she believed she was. We need background info on Nagi. Like family/childhood/other implications? One thing...........I am still having NASTY FLASHBACKS when I think about Yuko. Terrible such is her pain. Oops! I appear to be incapable of following Rules 16 and 17, so I had to have a mod change my sig for me. |
#58
11-17-08, 1:19 PM
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Im stunned like most of the people here.... Why THE HELL did she not say a word earlier? Why GOSH DARN IT didnt the teachers or classmates or friends realize it? Why JESUS CHRIST am I so deeply moved by the fate of "animated characters"? ;) AegisReborn said: ...... It is true that Yuu loves Yuko, but how will he handle this? Knowing that he, in part, was indirectly the cause for her pain and knowing what had happened, what will he do?..... Thats the question that doesnt stop running around in my head: How will Yuu handle it? Like so many in this forum, my first reaction and thoughts were..... well, lets say they were not very "christian". But, what if Yuu really goes that far? Would Yuko want Yuu to become a murderer and put in jail for the rest of his life? I dont think so.... But what can they do? Someone has to serve up justice! Folks, I have to say I fear the worst still has to come.... |
#59
11-17-08, 4:38 PM
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really liked this ep... very sad, turn the history... ![]() |
#60
11-17-08, 8:28 PM
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Wow this had to have been one of the most intense episodes i have ever seen. 5/5 out of me. I wonder how this will turn out... |