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AiCon said: jimjimex said: Eliminate the drive to reproduce? They have sex all the the time and they're not even ashamed about showing ti off. It doesn't matter if they don't intend to have kids. Human anatomy says that even if you don't want to have kids, you'll get them if you don't use something to prevent it.AiCon said: You'd assume that they're already on some form of contraception with all the sex they have. Why prescribe *pharmaceutical* contraception if you can genetically encode a *behavioral* trait that can outright eliminate your drive to reproduce completely. Maybe the human body has changed. I believe this is over a thousand years in the future. They've harnessed controlling "physic" powers in that time, I'm sure some genetic traits have changed due to their rapid evolution. Remember this is an anime, not a factual scientific documentary. There's bound to be a few things that doesn't really have scientific proof or wasn't approached in a proper scientific manner, it's SCI-FI. There is a possibility of genetic manipulation, like others have said. They've given some plausible evidence throughout the series. |
penguindrum264Nov 16, 2012 8:43 PM
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InfiniteDestiny said: Isn't it just because he's the odd number ?Found it odd how they treated the one straight guy like the outcast.... When the kids started their monogamous pairing, Satoru with Shun and Saki with Maria... there's nobody left for him. Him liking only Maria is not helping either. Satoru can find another pair after breaking up with Shun, but Maria is still with Saki. He'd end up the same even if he loved Satoru or Shun :P About the outcast, he is the replacement for Reiko, who has been friend with the other four since they're much younger. Even if they believed him to be member of their group since they entered the middle school, he's still more distanced from them. Which bring question. If the children are organized into 5 men cells, and then reorganized as needed to fill in the disposed individuals, where do they get the replacement ? It's not like they can have exactly 5 peoples disposed (and disband a group to fill in the gap) everytime. There should be group with less than 5 members then. deuxes said: It's something out of Full Metal AlchemistHehe, I wonder what Shun made hatch. The eyeball was a nice follow-up to the egg drop. *grins* |
| Yaoi and Yuri pairings.. did not see that comming. Oh well it didn't realy affect my thoughts of the show |
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| my fangirl side had its heart rupture at the homosex. my ghetto side kept screaming YYYOOOOOO dem foos be kissin and shit YYYYYOOOO yuri was fukken win tho didnt look liek a regular chick in the egg. wonder what that guy saw in shuu |
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| Dunno if anyone else noticed but when Satoru pushes the other guy he sticks his finger up his arse: I didn't notice it at first. |
jimjimex said: No, it's quite right at the Genetics Levels of tech right now. I am surprised by the IRL stuff too but in this world it was a no choice and the scientist groups most likely did and figured it out just like they did to it IRL right now. AiCon said: So they've been modified to be sterile? If that's the case then how do they reproduce? EXACTLY. Think about it. They were SOMEWHAT heterosexual when they were ~12 years old. When they turn 14 and all of a sudden they are all homo. WHY? Female's first menstrual cycle happens, on average, at 14 years old. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menarche They turn homo RIGHT at the time when the females in their age group start to ovulate. I am sure when they reach the society's "designed reproductive age", they will turn hetero again. If you are into this kind of thing, please refer to http://bcs.whfreeman.com/berg7e Chapter 10: Gene Regulation Strategy for how to TURN ON / OFF genes in the real world. Yea. Scientists actually know how it works already. Quite plausible. Perhaps to have a better control. It is said the less there are the easier they are to control and for that birth control is needed. Cruel but with the population decimation, it's the safest. |
neminyera said: I did notice that but I forgot it. Thanks for reminding me. lolDunno if anyone else noticed but when Satoru pushes the other guy he sticks his finger up his arse: I didn't notice it at first. I guess Satoru didn't waste any time moving on from Shun. |
jimjimex said: AiCon said: I'm not denying any homosexual trend. I'm just wondering how is it that they don't get pregnant with the amount of hetero sex (minority even) given how sexual they are with each other and seemingly without any form of contraception. Until now, I haven't seen anyone over 14 engaging in heterosexual behavior in the anime. I'm unsure what you guys are going on about, BUT! I'll put this under spoiler in case it is, I don't wanna risk it. --- neminyera said: Dunno if anyone else noticed but when Satoru pushes the other guy he sticks his finger up his arse: I didn't notice it at first. And omg, no I didn't actually notice that! :'D |
myuun said: Thanks myuun for telling us this. We would have argued to no end if you didn't say anything. I do have one question though:jimjimex said: AiCon said: I'm not denying any homosexual trend. I'm just wondering how is it that they don't get pregnant with the amount of hetero sex (minority even) given how sexual they are with each other and seemingly without any form of contraception. Until now, I haven't seen anyone over 14 engaging in heterosexual behavior in the anime. I'm unsure what you guys are going on about, BUT! I'll put this under spoiler in case it is, I don't wanna risk it. --- neminyera said: Dunno if anyone else noticed but when Satoru pushes the other guy he sticks his finger up his arse: I didn't notice it at first. And omg, no I didn't actually notice that! :'D |
| what happen to the artwork though, it's terrible. I mean, it used to be so perfect. Look at that, that is the quality I'm expecting from Shinsekai Yori I hope they fix it in the BD... |
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| OK first thing's first; They are not all homosexuals they are all (except Mamoru apparently) BISEXUAL! There is no gender discrimination here, I thought people who didn't know what Bonobos are would look it up by now, they are a species of apes who are bisexual. Ok imagine a world where boys didn't "have" to be with girls and girls didn't "have" to be with boys. Imagine sexual intimacy is something you can have with anyone you are close to, something you both benefit from and just a less violent way of relieving stress. Now imagine you are in puberty and you child body is changing very quickly, and you start having a wider range of emotions and you are looking at your friend's bodies differently. It's all confusing and a little scary. I remember at that age I was very close to my friends of the same gender, they were having the exact same changes as I was. I don't see it as a big stretch that in a community where there is no "only boys kiss girls" and vice versa, that you would explore your new sexual feelings and urges with someone of the same gender. It's less scary that way with a close friend who shares a similar body. I can guarantee that as they get older there will be more boy/girl coupling. And anyway if they were all homosexual their community would cease to exist. I think I can understand the Shun x Satoru coupling. Saki likes Shun + Shun likes Saki + Satoru likes Saki = Satoru likes Shun, Shun likes Satoru or something like that. Shun went a little nuts in this episode, I guess he knew they were coming for him and he didn't want to get the others involved. Can't wait to see what comes next. I always wonder about the voice actors, I mean they're in a room together and they're kind of making these declarations and um, sexy noises at the other's character. I know there is a level of professionalism involved but what do you say at the end of recording, "It was nice making the sounds of making out with you,"? I mean do any of them blush at all? |
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| People are forgetting why the relationship is predominantly homosexual at that age in the context of that society. Oh well. |
bla bla bla The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.Niko-kun said: On MAL, everyone who has used the lame rating system becomes a critic and an intellectual by default, haven't you heard? |
AiCon said: Thanks myuun for telling us this. We would have argued to no end if you didn't say anything. I do have one question though: No problem at all! |
| Probably my favorite episode yet despite the mildly poor animation in comparison to the first couple... And I don't even swing that way.... Still not a fan of Saki though, I mean she does realize Mamoru feels the same way she does, except with Marie... Right...? Guess some people just don't give a shit about their friends after all.. Mod Edit: Removed off-topic argument related part. |
LunaNov 16, 2012 10:32 PM
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| I bet my house that if those 'sex scenes' were between a boy and a girl no one would be raging and dropping the show. My fucking house. |
AiCon said: You fan girls must be having the times of your lives right now. lol Judging from how fast this show moves through the content, how many episodes do you think all this BL/GL stuff will last? Pfft, I'm pretty damn happy, ngl. But I'll be even more happy when the plot thickens and people get into the anime, not 'cause of the yaoi, but because of the incredible direction it is taking. Now that will be a joy to see. Aaaahm... to be quite honest, I wasn't expecting the episode to end this way, so for me that is a sign that the BL/GL won't last very long. In fact, I give it like one more episode if it even comes up in the next episode. From now on if I think it will be mostly focused on the plot rather than relationships 'cause something huuuge is about to happen. If they do show any BL/GL, it will be for a very small amount of time and like spread around. That is what I believe. Mod Edit: Removed off-topic argument related part. |
LunaNov 16, 2012 10:39 PM
| The second half of this episode was rather exciting. I have no idea what is going on and I can't wait to find out! |
| I'm not sure if this train of thought is frowned upon, but being tolerant of gay people (esp. male gays) doesn't exactly translate that I (male) like to watch dude on dude action. I'm pretty sure the girl betting her house is going to keep her house, she has my vote as to "people wouldn't drop this anime if that was straight not gay". |
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AiCon said: As a straight guy I can absolutely assure you that the yaoi isn't the reason why I watch this show. I guarantee it. Nah, I know you don't and that many people don't, but it's so irritating going on tumblr and seeing things like, "Omg I'm gonna start watching this anime all the yaois". It's kind of the opposite of here. Here some people drop it for the gay love, over there people start it for the gay love. But, hey~ whatever floats peoples' boats. --- AnimeKami said: I'm not sure if this train of thought is frowned upon, but being tolerant of gay people (esp. male gays) doesn't exactly translate that I (male) like to watch dude on dude action. I'm pretty sure the girl betting her house is going to keep her house, she has my vote as to "people wouldn't drop this anime if that was straight not gay". I think it depends. But straight sex in an anime is way more tolerated than gay sex. But sex is still a really hot topic whether it'd be straight or gay. I don't know, really it depends. |
| Nah, I'd keep my house, I guess. What makes me so sure is that in the episode where Saki and Satoru where at it, this fuss didn't happen. People were more concerned about the animation quality dropping than about 12 year olds having sex. Now tons of people coming out of everywhere came here just to rage about the sex and how oh so gay the show is -v- |
jiroutachiNov 16, 2012 10:39 PM
| So two years go by and everyone turns gay...that was a bit of a surprise only because how da eff did that mentality come about. Two years ago everyone was heterosexual in that department it seems and then everyone became homo. Whatever but very weird since it was really an upfront theme this episode. Me thinks Shun is eliminated. Artwork again has changed and for the worse imo. Edit: after reading another post I guess everyone is bisexual? Freaking weird ass culture man lol. Story needs to pick up again. Another stage is being set I hope to validate all the bizarreness. |
IZEROIINov 16, 2012 10:42 PM
Ajunky said: donotthrowsouls said: But they didn't do it in that episode (at least in the anime) since Saki managed to control her impulses. Having sex is not the same as almost having sex. Hell, it's even commendable to show a strong will.Nah, I'd keep my house, I guess. What makes me so sure is that in the episode where Saki and Satoru where at it, this fuss didn't happen. People were more concerned about the animation quality dropping than about 12 year olds having sex. Now tons of people coming out of everywhere came here just to rage just about the sex. They did have sex in that episode, though. Well... |
IZEROII said: So two years go by and everyone turns gay...that was a bit of a surprise only because how da eff did that mentality come about. Two years ago everyone was heterosexual in that department it seems and then everyone became homo. Whatever but very weird since it was really an upfront theme this episode. Me thinks Shun is eliminated. Artwork again has changed and for the worse imo. They don't "turn gay". No one can "turn gay". This isn't just aimed at you but I've read through this forum enough to see "turn gay" way too much. Just because they didn't show it when they were twelve doesn't mean that they hadn't had already had sexual experiences with boys and girls before. When the kids were listening to the Minoshiro talk about the bonobo monkeys and how they take out their stress through sexual activity with each other, remember how Saki thinks of her mother and Maria. It is very possible that she was taught since she was little to touch herself and other girls. It is also very possible that Maria and her had touched each other before. Same goes with Shun and the rest. This isn't uncommon. They show it more often at fourteen because they are pairing up and finding lovers of their own to relieve their stress. You could say they are all bisexual. Homosexuality is allowed and even encouraged when they are young while heterosexuality is usually postponed until they reach eighteen (an adult age). I hope I explained myself well. They don't "turn gay". I don't even like that expression. D: |
| I don't know what I just watched x.x didn't expect to hit in the face with yaoi/yuri like this...I'll keep watching for stories sake but man....gay couples all over the place in their school xD (not that theres anything wrong with that, just thought it was kinda funny) |
IZEROII said: So two years go by and everyone turns gay...that was a bit of a surprise only because how da eff did that mentality come about. Two years ago everyone was heterosexual in that department it seems and then everyone became homo. Whatever but very weird since it was really an upfront theme this episode. Its like you weren't even paying attention to the show. |
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EmeralDragon23 said: Why are people so surprised that there were homosexual relationships? It straight out said in episode 4 that they are genetically engineered to have sex to relieve stress and that their village prevents male/female relationships until they're adults so they encourage homosexual relationships during childhood and teen years. They friggin told you. Do you guys actually pay any attention to what is being said or just stare at the pretty pictures? Christ. Dude...it was never once said that heterosexual relationships were PREVENTED until adulthood. What it said was that the venting of stress through intimacy was common for adults but also became necessary even for those who were immature and thus the bonobos culture ideology was implanted or rather tried to be implanted. |
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