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11-02-12, 8:12 AM

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According to Takeshobo, four-panel manga "Ai Mai Mi" was announced to get a TV anime adaptation. It will be aired from January 2013.

Ai Mai Mi anime official website
One of the chapters of Ai Mai Mi manga

Nonsense violent comedy. It's about a radical & extreme slice of life of four high school girls.

Ai Mai Mi on MAL
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Its one of those 3 minute shows I'm guessing.

 
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RyanSaotome said:
Its one of those 3 minute shows I'm guessing.

Seems to be Takeshobo's thing, yeah. Will give it a whirl if it's on Crunchyroll. I'm 2 for 4 with those so far. I liked Morita-san and Yurumates, but didn't get into Chitose or Recorder.
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As long as it's not as bad at Chitose I will give it a try.
 
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That picture on the anime official website made me speechless

And

RyanSaotome said:
Its one of those 3 minute shows I'm guessing.
 
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11-02-12, 8:45 AM

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Nonsense violent comedy sounds so pleasing.

Although, as stated before, it's probably going to be a 3-minute show and that kinda ruins it.
 
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Radical and extreme? Maybe.
 
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Did I saw TENTACLES on the website pic?

I'm in.
 
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I'll give it a try for the nonsense violent comedy, but I'm not really interested in 3 minute shows.
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11-02-12, 8:52 AM

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I have a bad feeling about the next season.

Its something like so many short anime shows.
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11-02-12, 9:26 AM

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If it is even remotely as funny as Teekyu I'm fully on board.
 
11-02-12, 9:43 AM

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Did I saw TENTACLES on the website pic?

I'm out.

Fixed that...

Sometimes I wonder if the creators and producers of (manga and) anime want us to think that 90% of the Japanese population consists of cute schoolgirls...
 
11-02-12, 10:53 AM

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Nonsense violent comedy. It's about a radical & extreme slice of life of four high school girls.

it seems like japan doesnt even care about male MC's anymore


 
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> nonsense violent comedy

KILL ME BABY


I agree that shorter episode may help. 30 min seemed too long for a Kill Me Baby episode...
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
 
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supermegasonic said:

it seems like japan doesnt even care about male MC's anymore

I myself don't care. MC is unnecessary and it makes sense to concentrate on cute school girls. :-D
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
 
11-02-12, 11:13 AM

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supermegasonic said:
it seems like japan doesnt even care about male MC's anymore

This isn't remotely true. I almost wish it were, because so few of them are good characters. But it's not.
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Nonsense violent comedy

sounds like every thing i like, will probably watch i mean if it is going to be short episodes there is not much to loose
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jmal said:
supermegasonic said:
it seems like japan doesnt even care about male MC's anymore
This isn't remotely true. I almost wish it were, because so few of them are good characters. But it's not.
And who do we have to blame for that?
 
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Awww, I thought this was for "Ninja Nonsense." ;_;
 
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One thing I don't get are the people who complain about harem shows not having a good male character... why would you be watching those shows for the male character? He's just supposed to be bland as possible so you can self-insert easily. If you want some "alpha male" as the MC, go read an eroge or watch a hentai.

 
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Awww, I thought this was for "Ninja Nonsense." ;_;


That's already covered next season as well but not this anime in particular.

The chapter was funny and chances for a 3-5 minute show are pretty much certain, I like it.


 
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And who do we have to blame for that?

Lazy writers who don't take the time to develop male characters. It's actually not that hard, but many studios don't seem to try. This is why I love Kyoto Animation so much. I've never disliked a single male lead they've presented.

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One thing I don't get are the people who complain about harem shows not having a good male character... why would you be watching those shows for the male character? He's just supposed to be bland as possible so you can self-insert easily.

I have to disagree.

There are two kinds of male leads I consider bad, for very different reasons. First is the overpowered protagonist who accomplishes everything on his own no matter how badly the plot needs to contort itself to facilitate it. The second is the high-strung, sexophobic male protagonists who get hysterical any time a female comes within 3 feet. Harem shows often suffer from one or the other. The first if it's an action harem show, the latter if it's more of a straight romance. Both are major drags on my enjoyment of the show.

Speaking more generally:
A male lead who is able to interact on par with the other characters is so important. Ookami to Koushinryou wouldn't be half the show it is if Horo didn't have Lawrence to bounce off of. Clannad After Story would not be half as powerful if the time we spent with Tomoya weren't at least comparably moving to the time spent on the girls. Bakemonogatari wouldn't be half so fun to listen to if Koyomi were incapable of dishing out almost as much snark as he takes. And can anyone imagine the SOS-dan without Kyon? I can't, and wouldn't want to.

Not every male character needs to be a brilliant force for character development in a show. To take a recent harem anime as an example, I'm actually pretty fond of Akito from Oniai. When I first saw Akiko trying to get into his pants, I dreaded a Yuuki Rito-like hyper-overreaction. But what did he do? He treated her advances with a mix of humor and patience that made the scenes a thousand times more enjoyable than if he just started sputtering and screaming.

I set my bar for protagonists pretty low. He just needs to not actively detract from the show, but many can't even clear that hurdle. Still, one that goes above and beyond is far better.

I don't expect everyone to agree with every example cited above, but that's not the point; getting across the general concept is. Good male leads add a lot, even in mindless harem shows. Bland self-inserts can, at absolute best, be neutral forces. At worst, they're black holes that suck all the fun out of otherwise good scenes with fun female characters.

In the end, sure, I'll take a show with no male protagonist - even no male characters at all - as my preference. If there's no male protagonist, that means there won't be a bad male protagonist, obviously. But most shows do have male leads, and if they're going to be there, I want to enjoy their presence, damnit. That can be a real treat.

Good characters are most effective when they're interacting with other good characters. The best female character in the world can only take a show so far if she's surrounded by idiots.
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^ I guess I set my bar for MC even lower. Bakemonogatari is a very unique kind of harem show and of course it benefits hugely from very interesting characters including the MC, but to me this is just extra delight. (besides, I am sure I will still enjoy Bake if the harem element is weakened a lot but I cannot say the same for many other harem shows that I enjoy). For a standard harem show, a MC that is allergic to girls getting too close, like Rito in ToLoveRu, or a MC that is too thick to find out all girls love him, like Ichika in IS, are just fine, even desirable. There is good reason why I stay as a diehard fan of ToLoveRu all these years ;-D

RyanSaotome said:
One thing I don't get are the people who complain about harem shows not having a good male character... why would you be watching those shows for the male character? He's just supposed to be bland as possible so you can self-insert easily. If you want some "alpha male" as the MC, go read an eroge or watch a hentai.

Eroge MC can be bland too... But otherwise agree with you. People should not just hold on to one set of "quality standard" to judge different genres of anime, and in particular harem show. What makes a good harem show can be quite different from what makes a good adventure show. Besides, even within harem shows the MC can also have variation -- he may be blander than a MC in say an adventure show but not every MC in a harem show are necessarily the same.
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So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
 
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You need a character like Rito in ToLoveRu to drive the story. How far would they really be able to go if he just bangs every girl who makes a move on him? Having him as indecisive and scared to make a move on them adds to it since it creates many funny situations and makes the manga last more than a few chapters. Same with Ichika, if he just banged every girl who hit on him, the show wouldn't be any good. It would just be some hentai. MCs resisting the urge or being pansies makes harems better

 
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For a standard harem show, a MC that is allergic to girls getting too close, like Rito in ToLoveRu, or a MC that is too thick to find out all girls love him, like Ichika in IS, are just fine, even desirable. There is good reason why I stay as a diehard fan of ToLoveRu all these years ;-D

The problem I have with the "freak-out" or "dense as a brick" MCs in fanservice shows is that dumber MCs = dumber fanservice, in my opinion. When a character is stupid or clumsy enough to just fall onto a half naked girl 5 times a day, that's exactly what you end up getting for fanservice.

Personally, I prefer when fanservice shows have to work a little bit for it. To LOVE-Ru and Ichiban Ushiro and the like will never hold a candle to Touka Gettan, YamiBou, or Boukyaku no Senritsu in the fanservice department for me. Sure Yabuki's designs are god-tier, but I just don't enjoy what's happening with them on screen. I just can't appreciate nice boobs to the maximum extent if some git is screaming bloody murder in the background. (This may be why I find the Darkness manga somewhat tolerable to read as a monthly boobfest, but can't bring myself to sit through the anime - manga is quiet!)

It's certainly not that I'm demanding avant-garde eroticism (I love me some Strike Witches butts ♥), but I have very low tolerance for the MC intrusively interjecting himself into the scene while the fanservice is trying to service my fan-ness. You rarely get this with majority or entirely female casts, which is why I enjoy that so much more.

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How far would they really be able to go if he just bangs every girl who makes a move on him?

But that's not at all what I'm saying I want to see.
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I can see why some may prefer Akito type of MC instead of Rito type of MC but at the end it seems to me it depends on what kind of situation you enjoy more:

In Rito (ToLoveRu) I enjoy the "lucky skinship" moments (and how funny things led to such situation) and Rito's shyness look, so Rito's reaction is treasure to me.

In Akito (OniAi) I do not enjoy as much Akito's sarcasm (tsukkomi) or rejection (no skinship) so I would prefer Rito to Akito but I can see where those who prefer Akito come from.

Anyway... getting off topic... sorry...
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
 
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jmal said:

The problem I have with the "freak-out" or "dense as a brick" MCs in fanservice shows is that dumber MCs = dumber fanservice, in my opinion. When a character is stupid or clumsy enough to just fall onto a half naked girl 5 times a day, that's exactly what you end up getting for fanservice.
Here the MC being dumb is good. The girls in those shows would look dumb in real life anyway. In this fantasy harem world it does not matter if all characters act dumb. In fact I would say having a smart or intelligent character would distract from the show.

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Personally, I prefer when fanservice shows have to work a little bit for it. To LOVE-Ru and Ichiban Ushiro and the like will never hold a candle to Touka Gettan, YamiBou, or Boukyaku no Senritsu in the fanservice department for me.

Unfortunately those fanservice in the better section of your list is also those that I find less, what would be the word, tintillating or rousing? I prefer more straightness and directness but yet keep its humor tongue in cheek for the joy of it. Interestingly those that offer better fanservice in your opinion seems to be from VN (at least the first two) perhaps the VN media can offer more background and depth given its length (or in your word, "work for it").

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I have very low tolerance for the MC intrusively interjecting himself into the scene while the fanservice is trying to service my fan-ness. You rarely get this with majority or entirely female casts, which is why I enjoy that so much more.
I very much agree, although in an all-female cast my mind will automatically switch to yuri mode, which is quite a different thing from heterosexual fanservice (I know they should be not so different from yuri, blame the hormone...)
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So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
 
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jmal said:
DraconisMarch said:
And who do we have to blame for that?
Lazy writers who don't take the time to develop male characters. It's actually not that hard, but many studios don't seem to try.
It was a rhetorical question. I'm pretty sure everyone knows who's at fault.
 
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Nevermind how the discussion got there, I'll just have to jump on the bandwagon.

@RyanSaotome: Is it really that hard to imagine that someone does not want the only character to identify with in a harem show (the MC) to be bland, boring and undeserving of the attention he gets? I'm unable to enjoy a show when I just don't buy ANYTHING it tries to sell, from the fact that such bland character exist to the fact that they would actually attract heaps of girls. It is actively painful to watch characters act out scenes when I not for a second can understand why in the world anyone would act like that in a situation like this. It feels like they are pandering to male needs that I just don't have - getting heaps of mindless girls for being someone who achieves and deserves nothing. It is much more of a puzzle to me how anyone could enjoy identifying with a MC that is reduced to 1 or 2 traits that are all but admirable.
Especially in shows that have no plot whatsoever the characters have to be interesting to have anything going for the show.

That said, I know harem shows have those so I avoid harem shows.
Series like Bakemonogatari or Clannad I didn't even recognize at harem shows in the beginning because they lack that lack of interesting characters. I still wouldn't consider them full-on harem shows, they're about as harem as Steins;Gate is. The shows symbv mentioned are more full-on harem shows, just there to have fun. Clearly tagged as such and easy for me to avoid. But if I found the same generic character designs and 'humour' in shows like Bakemonogatari or Clannad, I would definitely 'complain about it not having a good male MC'. Because they are not tagged as harem and obviously have merits aside from that or at least try to have them. Fanservice can then add some goodness, especially if as well done as in Bakemonogatari, but I do not watch those shows primarily for that.

So if you throw all the harem-ish series together I couldn't disagree more with RyanSaotome and agree with jmal. If you are only referring to those TLR/IS/etc.. series I will agree with Ryan though. There are series who add harem/fanservice/ecchi elements after thinking of a decent story and characters, and there are series that start by attempting to make a fanservice/harem show and then go on developing a setting and character designs for that exact purpose.
Maybe it's just me making BS differentiations, but it works almost every time for me to know what I should/should not avoid and when to adjust expectations.

So I agree with what symbv said, that there are different standards of quality for different genres, I just don't think that IS/TLR/etc and Clannad/Bake/Haruhi/etc are to be judged as parts of one and the same genre.
 
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jmal said:
RyanSaotome said:
How far would they really be able to go if he just bangs every girl who makes a move on him?

But that's not at all what I'm saying I want to see.


Well, you yourself might not be, but its just a common complaint I hear when people complain about harem MCs, which is why I said it. Almost everywhere that people complain about them, its about them being "a-sexual" or being "totally beta" for not having sex with the girls throwing themelves on them. It just gets kinda annoying always seeing people say that since thats not what harem shows are about at all.

 
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^ People need to understand that having sex is actually not to be expected from the beginning anyway (anybody who wants it should go for the doujin). And the important thing in a harem show is how it provides the background and context for the fantasizing -- as a saying I heard in a Japanese forum goes, the power of imagination can often be more erotic than outright display of sex in action.


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Maybe it's just me making BS differentiations, but it works almost every time for me to know what I should/should not avoid and when to adjust expectations.
Setting an accurate expectation can go really far in terms of how much I enjoy a show, so it is a very important thing for me to set it right, if not before the anime starts (when it is an adaptation) than at the early stage of the show (say ep.3 in 1 cour and ep.5-6 in 2 cour show)
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
 
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DraconisMarch said:
It was a rhetorical question. I'm pretty sure everyone knows who's at fault.

Ooh, I know now, the Tooth Fairy! That's got to be it.

RyanSaotome said:
Well, you yourself might not be, but its just a common complaint I hear when people complain about harem MCs, which is why I said it. Almost everywhere that people complain about them, its about them being "a-sexual" or being "totally beta" for not having sex with the girls throwing themelves on them. It just gets kinda annoying always seeing people say that since thats not what harem shows are about at all.

A character that just screws everything in his path is no more interesting to me than a character who overreacts to everything, so I would agree that the "he should just sex them all up!" argument is an odd one.

I don't object to the existence of, uh, "very direct" fanservice harem shows, even if I tend to avoid them. But it's hard to draw a clear line on where those shows start and where others begin. It's more of a very broad continuum from To Love-Ru → NakaImo → OniAi → Haganai → Shuffle → OreImo → Mashiro-iro Symphony → Clannad (...or something like that, this is kinda hard to do on the fly!), where the importance of fanservice gradually drops off and the importance of other kinds of writing (talking more dialogue and interaction, not just "plot" narrowly defined) steps in. You go from nearly 100% fanservice TLR to virtually 0% fanservice Clannad, even though they share structural cast similarities in a central male protagonist surrounded by attractive female with at least a passing interest in him.

I think where I start to feel a little put out is when shows I think have the potential to be more on → side of the spectrum rely more heavily than I would have liked on the ← side of the spectrum, and detract from the → elements that, sometimes, they actually do rather well. In almost all cases, whether or not I feel a sense of cognitive dissonance between →ness and the show's presentation comes down to how the male protagonist behaves.

(Disclaimer: Arrows are not meant to imply quality or legitimacy or whatever, rather just a general direction of tone and style.)
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Nonsense violent comedy. It's about a radical & extreme slice of life of four high school girls.

it seems like japan doesnt even care about male MC's anymore


Yeah, I agree. Either way, this might interesting.
 
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RyanSaotome said:
Its one of those 3 minute shows I'm guessing.


If it really is, I'm out~
 
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sounds nice but hope it really not one of those 3 min shows
 
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definitely will pass
 
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jmal said:

I think where I start to feel a little put out is when shows I think have the potential to be more on → side of the spectrum rely more heavily than I would have liked on the ← side of the spectrum, and detract from the → elements that, sometimes, they actually do rather well. In almost all cases, whether or not I feel a sense of cognitive dissonance between →ness and the show's presentation comes down to how the male protagonist behaves.

(Disclaimer: Arrows are not meant to imply quality or legitimacy or whatever, rather just a general direction of tone and style.)

Just goes to show (again) how important setting and adjusting expectation is for decent enjoyment of an anime. ;-)
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
 
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symbv said:
Just goes to show (again) how important setting and adjusting expectation is for decent enjoyment of an anime. ;-)

"Setting expectations" is only useful for getting a very general sense of the anime. It will not tell you about execution, about precise balance of story elements, etc.

Unless you actually read/play the original source material (or seek out very detailed summaries and reviews), which I do not do because this would completely spoil the anime and many times it's not translated anyway. Personally, I have little interest in manga or light novels or games so I wouldn't be interested in doing so anyway.
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jmal said:

"Setting expectations" is only useful for getting a very general sense of the anime. It will not tell you about execution, about precise balance of story elements, etc.

True, but this can still help a lot in terms of tuning how you can enjoy an anime.
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Unless you actually read/play the original source material (or seek out very detailed summaries and reviews), which I do not do because this would completely spoil the anime and many times it's not translated anyway. Personally, I have little interest in manga or light novels or games so I wouldn't be interested in doing so anyway.

Admittedly I do not have that much aversion when it comes to spoiler, as long as I think it can significantly help me set the expectation - for example, SAO is not a serious death game but episodic accounts of Kirito interacting with people and gets his girl. Or Bake is not about solving mystery or action or romcom but the dialogues and aesthetics. I do not have that much time to go for all the source material or dig into all the spoilers, but a feeling of how a work is like usually helps set the expectation a lot.

That said, I always welcome the potential of being pleasantly surprised, and here the thrill provided by an original anime is incomparable -- the shock that Madoka gave me is just something that I will not be able to enjoy in an adaptation. Of course this also means the potential to underwhelm is there too, and disappointment can only be all too great if you realize you invested a lot of time to be disappointed (Guilty Crown came to mind). On balance personally I would prefer to set the right expectation and if needed I am prepared to be spoiled (not too much but sufficiently enough).
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So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
 
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To keep it short, I'll just say: I'd rather be disappointed by 10 mediocre shows than have even one single scene of one great show get spoiled even a little bit. I enjoy anime most when I know as little information as possible beyond a very very basic premise.
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I guess it is the level of aversion for spoiler compared with the ability to accept disappointment. I am inclined towards the latter. I'd rather not be disappointed with the shows I watch.

Besides my experience is that those information that helps me set expectation is usually not the type that would spoil big surprises or twists. Introductions released before an anime is aired usually sets the tone well (so I always make sure to check them) and it usually gives a preview of scenes to be shown anyway.

If we say that not even one single of a show should get spoiled, then we are talking about not going to check the official website or look at the PV before the show, as any show can just happen to be a "great show" so as to have "as little information as possible" coming to the show. Of course this is fine as it is -- it is just that I would say that it may be a bit too thorough (avoid any information that may spoil things) to my taste.
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So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
 
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I'm okay with 3-minute anime :) As long as it has a good storyline... Especially comedy
 
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symbv said:
If we say that not even one single of a show should get spoiled, then we are talking about not going to check the official website or look at the PV before the show, as any show can just happen to be a "great show" so as to have "as little information as possible" coming to the show. Of course this is fine as it is -- it is just that I would say that it may be a bit too thorough (avoid any information that may spoil things) to my taste.

All I usually want to know is genres, premise, character designs, and some staff and seiyuu. Knowing more than that probably wouldn't help me much anyway. What would I do with the knowledge? Either 1) what I hear is so bad (extreme gore or sexual violence perhaps) that I don't even give the show a chance or 2) what I hear sounds mixed or good, and I need to watch and form my own opinion anyway.

Usually having enough information to warn me ahead of time about very specific things I won't like would require me to know waaaaay more about a show than I'd ever want to know ahead of time. Basically my approach is just to try as much as I have time for. I've found some hidden gems that way, that I might have skipped if I only stuck to the stuff that sounds the most to my tastes.
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I do agree with not liking reading manga or light novel source materials myself. Manga in general doesn't really entertain me, since I love animation, colors, music, etc... so I'd always go for the anime version instead of reading the manga. Having everything as new and fresh makes the anime even better too. It seems like many manga or novel fans of something just watch the anime just so they can complain about the differences (though I guess I am kinda guilty with this for Little Busters... but that was a VN I couldn't just pass on since I gave up hope it would ever get an anime adaption).

 
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What would I do with the knowledge? Either 1) what I hear is so bad (extreme gore or sexual violence perhaps) that I don't even give the show a chance or 2) what I hear sounds mixed or good, and I need to watch and form my own opinion anyway.
For 2) it is good to know (for me) to set my expectation; for 1) it may indeed help as I can allocate my time better.

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I've found some hidden gems that way, that I might have skipped if I only stuck to the stuff that sounds the most to my tastes.
Agree. On the other hand, I have often found myself enjoying an anime a lot more than some people because I come to the show more prepared. It is not really have to do with what my tastes are (my tastes are pretty broad anyway so perhaps this does not bother me as much) but what the anime is generally about and where is its main appeal. Introductory interviews before an anime airs often cover this and fans are encouraged to read them. So I do not see why this should be avoided (perhaps not you but I am talking about many fans who do not want to know anything about what the anime is about except some very brief synopsis).
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
 
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symbv said:
Introductory interviews before an anime airs often cover this and fans are encouraged to read them.

Most of this stuff isn't accessible to foreign fans. Though honestly even when such things are translated, they don't usually say much of consequence, in my experience. So I don't think it'd be a significant factor. I still think the issues I'm talking about are more subtle than what you'd get from pre-airing promo material anyway.
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I still think the issues I'm talking about are more subtle than what you'd get from pre-airing promo material anyway.
I just have a feeling that we are talking a bit different thing (or should I say different focus and concern) about how much information is considered beneficial to our anime watching experience and how much is truly 'spoiling the fun'. My point about the "introductory interview and pre-airing promo" is that I consider information disclosed in those material helps me set expectation and enhance the watching experience, and this is the kind of information that one does not need to avoid (for foreigners, the whole interview may not get translated, but information from those material may get spread anyway), even though it may "spoil" some of the details like the worldview and the story. That's all I want to stress.
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
 
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I'd say the broader your taste the less detailed the research needs to be. For me it is enough to get a vague impression of the genres and style of the show as well as checking if it includes some of my few 'to avoid' things before I know what shows to start. The more detailed adjustments happen during the first episodes, as you said earlier. If you're looking for something more specific though I can see how more reaearch is needed for maximum enjoyment.
But then again I tend to try to know as little as possible and as much as needed about a series. Which for me amounts to only very basic things like genres, origin (Manga, Novel, VN, Game, etc) and maybe basic premise (and for some types of shows character designs). There have been many shows where I knew basically nothing about them except their genres and maybe a picture, but still was 99% sure I'd like them. And often it turned out that I'd love them, partly because I knew so little about them and could let them pleasantly surprise me.
 
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Sounds interesting, i'll give it a try when it airs.

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One thing I don't get are the people who complain about harem shows not having a good male character... why would you be watching those shows for the male character? He's just supposed to be bland as possible so you can self-insert easily. If you want some "alpha male" as the MC, go read an eroge or watch a hentai.

The male lead of the -monogatari was one of the best things about it, so I don't see why they have to be bland. I don't see the point of self-inserting yourself in an anime.
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The male lead of the -monogatari was one of the best things about it, so I don't see why they have to be bland. I don't see the point of self-inserting yourself in an anime.
I thikn RyanSaotome is talking about the standard harem shows. -Monogatari is a very unique kind of harem show -- in fact I would not say harem is its main attraction (the same cannot be said of the more standard harem show). And in a standard harem show a watcher may be more tempted to self-insert himself as the MC. That said, personally I think even in a standard harem show the MC does not need to be "as bland as possible" - he may be blander than, say, a hero in an adventure show but he does not need to "as bland as possible".
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
 
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