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So basically just leaving the "pro" out right ? If it can give a chance to the other why not. As long as main contest will remain, can always give a try if some people like the idea. I don't really have anything against it, I just don't really see if it can be a good idea by just reading it, because making 2 groups sounds a bit weird to me (with one side "pro" other side "beginner").



Well I didn't really thought about it :p but after reading kuroshiroi, I think it can work pretty well with his way.

Most other contest have submissions before voting, which makes it a lot easier for people to choose their fav and vote. Instead of having an unique updated post that one will need to manage, just create a topic where people will be able to submit a snapshot of their current sig/list/profile design. Make a reminder before the contest, so everyone will post their update in that topic. Then, when contest starts link back to it to help people choosing.

Rule of that thread would be, snapshot only, so it's easier for people to copy/paste when voting and since you get the chance to show off, it shouldn't be too much to ask. Can only post once also, no comment or anything, it's just meant to be a big list for everyone to choose.

I think it's worth to give it a try, cos there are a lot of people, who are new to photoshop/gimp but do have talent and they spend a lot a of time to imrpove themselves, and IMHO they deserv to have an award fo their hard work. Besides maybe such a contest will encourage other user to make their own sigs and not ask others to make theirs while saying "but they can make so good ones, and I suck so why should I even try?".

As for the list: I'm for it. Well it will be a lot of work for the person in charge, but it really will nominating much easier. But this list should be "advertised" a bit too. I mean like talking about in sig update thread, having a link in the newspaper type mass message and so on.

Well I think I understood a bit better. And after thinking about it, I think that instead of beginner and pro, best would be a main contest and a newcomer contest. This term would give me much more motivation than beginner, really. I'm not sure if I'm alone on this but it tickles me a bit to say beginner contest lol. Also it avoids the 'level' separation, a little at least.
Something like status could be an other idea, Veteran for the people who made it up to top5 already and I don't know what else for the other.

But maybe I'm just too picky :p sorry.

edit: ah I didn't notice Talon talked about newcomer already. I went quickly through most post but didn't see that and quite misunderstood the idea I suppose.

I don't really like how you say "beginner" and "pro". As far as I understand it, this isn't so much trying to differentiate between the contenders' skill level, but more about whether they entered a MAL awards contest before. That's why I like Talon's "newcomer" term more, since it's more descriptive. The opposite of this group are the "regulars", who don't have to be "pro" perse.......just people who frequently enter MAL awards contests. :3

I like the idea of a newcomer contest, because it tries to involve more MAL members to the MAL awards. Even if they don't manage to win the contests that has been overshadowed for a long time by the "popularity factor", they are able to hold their own ground in this contest that is (or at least should be) designed for the contenders who have tried to squeeze in the hard core of MAL awards contest regulars.

another crazy idea of me wich doesn't leave my head until I've written it, we totally shouldn't do this because the contests stands on a solid ground where everyone agrees with it that they should be done that way.
A listdesign league, everyone can subscribe his/herself and after an submissing period we're making 1 on 1 (on 1 on 1) contests with random parings for every day. (like moe-battle).
lol, newcomer league, regular league, champions league xD

okay, now I've written it, I can let go of the idea ~_~
While it solves 3 problems:
- no limit of contestants
- the popularity factor might be lower on 1 on 1
- people have time to see every little detail of 2 lists
we get new problems too:
- it takes time, long wait when you missed subsribing
- people might want to change style in the middle of contest
- alot of work to make contests on a daily base and I current don't have the time for that


btw. I've been thinking but this club currently only gives Awards away for someones creativity.. Shouldn't we expand this to some non-creative activities/deeds where people aren't forced to use expensive software and have the skills for that?
Review-writer of the month, fansub mistake of the month, spammer of the month, friend-collec... okay forget it ~_~

Haha, it would be quiet interesting :D But for this many competition we would need a lot of people to work on it.

But I like the idea of skills not needing expensive software... Maybe a short story writing competition or something like that.

Hi!

I'm a newbie for most of the contests. Having this club helps a lot! The Creative Corner section of the forums look scary to me, even to this day. :P

As for suggestions, I'm thinking of starting my own contest club. It would be nice to see some general guidelines to use as reference for building my club.


=)

So, I've been scouting around, looking for interesting sigs from users that are probably less well known for the sig design contest. Well, I went to the thread today to think about posting some of them... and then I thought, what's the point?

Now, I know you guys have been running these design contests for a long time, and you've come to your current nomination/voting method for a reason. But, the truth of it is, while everyone is complaining about it being a "popularity" contest more than a design contest, I think the current nomination system is only helping it be like that even more.

What is the point of me putting less well known users up for nomination, if I'm the only one that's going to be nominating them? I'm sorry, but the entire thread is pretty much the same ten users. There are a few new ones (mostly people nominating themselves or putting them as special mentions) but the nomination thread is already treated as a voting thread. Gotta put the people we want to win up. So either I nominate which of those ten users I like, or I nominate users that have no chance of ever reaching the voting stage because no one has viewed their sigs but me.

At least if I could submit someone (or a few someones) names for nomination, and an image could be taken of their sigs, and then displayed in the nominations thread, more people could view that sig before choosing that nomination. And, even better, not all sigs have names on them -- you could number them rather than naming them, and people could nominate (with your point based system) based on numbers. And then, you could have the voting stage.

It's more work, and I know you may get something like 50 nominations, but at least this way people would be able to view the nominated sigs (still nominated by the users) before distributing points. It also makes the nomination round a lot easier for users to participate in: look at the available sigs for nomination, and distribute points, rather than going to scout on the forum and then coming back.... I doubt that they come back, OR they may just be looking at the ones already up for nomination and choosing those to save time. People want less work, and if everything's already in one thread, they may be more likely to participate.

In my opinion, the MAL Award bot isn't going to change the "popularity" factor of it, if it's just used for voting. I think the current problem lies in the nomination method, rather than the voting.

But that's just my (new, and probably uneducated) two cents.


Edit: I just went a looked at some of the older nominations threads, and I see people saying, "I looked around for less known users", and then there's a list of 10 users with 0 points, and the four or five that are given points are still the same users. To me, this only reinforcing my opinion on the current nominations strategy...

Btw. regarding new voting system with "MAL Awards bot". What about ppl with this problem: http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=30697 For example me. I can't send any PMs, so I won't be able to vote?

Sorry if this was already discussed here, u guys write too much, and I'm to lazy to read it all :p

Well that's technically not our problem. For the same it could happen that the forum messes up the poll or there are users who can't post but we never knew because they don't post that the can't post into the support area.

Umm, that's harsh, but I guess u got some point here :p Well, I'll pray for this to get fixed soon :)

I'm guessing you guys decided on this method probably due to the high amount of entries the new contest is having, but have you thought about using this voting process for the future list/signature contests?

I think it comes to a good compromise with what Kineta just said, as anyone who wants to enter the contest can, and all entries will be in one single thread without the necessity for someone to put them together. This might be the best way for everyone to get their work out in the open, cut down to the best entries, and use the MALAwardBot to avoid the popularity vote.

Desktop styleup contest? A lot of photoshoper's (as I noticed) customize their desktop with anime wallpapers, addons. Dunno might sound stupid but that is my opinion :P

thumbs up for mee