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| The Chimera Ant arc was amazing. I've completely read the arc 3 times now. |
Mephz said: Imo the chimera arc was terribly boring and bland. This arc is by far the best one. Conversely for me it is bloody fantastic and my favourite arc thus far, even though the build up could have been shortened. |
Trafl-guy said: That arc is the some of the best qualities a shonen can offer (along with the follow-up arc - the election) The hate was because of the hiatuses that were along the road and weirdness of the enemies since YS offered a realistic setting so it's weird to see magical beasts after so long. People start acting as if they came out of nowhere. Compared to YS, it's really an underrated arc. A lot of hate was personal and only a few disliked it. So technically it was better received than the YS arc. As for the OVAs, I really liked them. The first OVA was really great, better than YS itself for me. It also felt more like New York lol. The 2nd OVA was good and the 3rd, while some animation moments were....retarded...and it had many changes, was still a good adaptation. :) I think Mephz said it best, it can be a love or hate type of arc. I consider HxH to be my favorite series and I know that there is more than just a few who were at least disappointed by it. I'm not saying it was bad, I'm just saying that I feel Hunter x Hunter is at it's best over these next two arcs. The CA stuff was badly paced, had some wierd stalling and tons of text without visuals. I wasn't one of the people who read it during the hiatuses, and yet I still found the same problems as someone I know who read it through the 8 long years. |
fearthebeard85 said: Trafl-guy said: That arc is the some of the best qualities a shonen can offer (along with the follow-up arc - the election) The hate was because of the hiatuses that were along the road and weirdness of the enemies since YS offered a realistic setting so it's weird to see magical beasts after so long. People start acting as if they came out of nowhere. Compared to YS, it's really an underrated arc. A lot of hate was personal and only a few disliked it. So technically it was better received than the YS arc. As for the OVAs, I really liked them. The first OVA was really great, better than YS itself for me. It also felt more like New York lol. The 2nd OVA was good and the 3rd, while some animation moments were....retarded...and it had many changes, was still a good adaptation. :) I think Mephz said it best, it can be a love or hate type of arc. I consider HxH to be my favorite series and I know that there is more than just a few who were at least disappointed by it. I'm not saying it was bad, I'm just saying that I feel Hunter x Hunter is at it's best over these next two arcs. The CA stuff was badly paced, had some wierd stalling and tons of text without visuals. I wasn't one of the people who read it during the hiatuses, and yet I still found the same problems as someone I know who read it through the 8 long years. "loving it or hating it" can be said on every arc/series. That's what it means to love/hate something. There's no arc that isn't a love it or hate it :/ As for the HxH feel, the CA had more of it than the GI/YN, it brought things back to the early hunter exams, but in a much deadlier way. I found no stalling, it was all part of the development, there's only 1 fight that wasn't that good and the rest was expanding on whichever character it was focusing on (even the bad guys) I liked the idea of narrating things, it avoids having the characters try to explain it directly in a cheesy way. |
AceIII said: Yeah. Should it be PG-15 then?Awesome episode ! I still dont get it why this is rated PG-13 lol Wow, didn't expect to get lots of thumbs up from Youtube comments by posting HxH :D |
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Hyoroemon said: AceIII said: Yeah. Should it be PG-15 then?Awesome episode ! I still dont get it why this is rated PG-13 lol Wow, didn't expect to get lots of thumbs up from Youtube comments by posting HxH :D huh? :P |
Trafl-guy said: "loving it or hating it" can be said on every arc/series. That's what it means to love/hate something. There's no arc that isn't a love it or hate it :/ As for the HxH feel, the CA had more of it than the GI/YN, it brought things back to the early hunter exams, but in a much deadlier way. I found no stalling, it was all part of the development, there's only 1 fight that wasn't that good and the rest was expanding on whichever character it was focusing on (even the bad guys) I liked the idea of narrating things, it avoids having the characters try to explain it directly in a cheesy way. wrong, love or hate it is an expression used where the fans split in two seperate factions completely, there is no middle road. Most arcs have people that think, this was just "ok" or "alright". The chimera arc is kind of either you outright hate it and get bored to tears or you love it. |
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Mephz said: Trafl-guy said: "loving it or hating it" can be said on every arc/series. That's what it means to love/hate something. There's no arc that isn't a love it or hate it :/ As for the HxH feel, the CA had more of it than the GI/YN, it brought things back to the early hunter exams, but in a much deadlier way. I found no stalling, it was all part of the development, there's only 1 fight that wasn't that good and the rest was expanding on whichever character it was focusing on (even the bad guys) I liked the idea of narrating things, it avoids having the characters try to explain it directly in a cheesy way. wrong, love or hate it is an expression used where the fans split in two seperate factions completely, there is no middle road. Most arcs have people that think, this was just "ok" or "alright". The chimera arc is kind of either you outright hate it and get bored to tears or you love it. According to Fearthebeard, he didn't really hate it, it just wasn't as good as YN in his opinion, that's middle road enough for me. |
Trafl-guy said: Mephz said: Trafl-guy said: "loving it or hating it" can be said on every arc/series. That's what it means to love/hate something. There's no arc that isn't a love it or hate it :/ As for the HxH feel, the CA had more of it than the GI/YN, it brought things back to the early hunter exams, but in a much deadlier way. I found no stalling, it was all part of the development, there's only 1 fight that wasn't that good and the rest was expanding on whichever character it was focusing on (even the bad guys) I liked the idea of narrating things, it avoids having the characters try to explain it directly in a cheesy way. wrong, love or hate it is an expression used where the fans split in two seperate factions completely, there is no middle road. Most arcs have people that think, this was just "ok" or "alright". The chimera arc is kind of either you outright hate it and get bored to tears or you love it. According to Fearthebeard, he didn't really hate it, it just wasn't as good as YN in his opinion, that's middle road enough for me. it's an expression, it does not mean everyone fits the definition. He is just one lad. If you look at the ratings now for example 90% of the people that watched this episode gave it 5/5. It's been a similar story for most of the other spider arc episodes. When the chimera arc comes I'm expecting a lot more 1/5 votes, just read the comments for the chimera arc in the manga section and you will see what I mean. It's either 1/5 or 5/5 for most of the chapters. Half the people are saying how bad it is while the rest is praising it |
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| Again, most of it was hiatus hate, and while I haven't been around MAL far back to the last weekly hxh release, most other forums consisted of that, either that or HxH haters in general. But from an objective stand-point it's way better than YN arc; The structure and development that is. Overall just like the other arcs, it has it's own fresh feel while keeping the "hunter" part present. Oh well. |
| to name a example: testament chapter 318. Very mixed reviews (25% vote either dislike or hate), http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=332719 then again that one was quite....empty in content. There are excellent chapters once in a while but they dragged that story so much than many stopped bothering with hunter x hunter alltogether during that arc. It lost part of the fans it had gained with the spider arc. That is not the sign of a successful arc. But from an objective stand-point it's way better than YN arc; The structure and development that is. I don't agree, I just think he author was throwing together a mix of cliche crap in that arc trying to make it look epic, failing at it for me. |
MephzOct 18, 2012 8:21 AM
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Trafl-guy said: How is it cliche again? Cliche would be Don't read if you haven't read the manga!!!!!! |
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pokymon said: Mephz said: Imo the chimera arc was terribly boring and bland. This arc is by far the best one. Conversely for me it is bloody fantastic and my favourite arc thus far, even though the build up could have been shortened. Agreed. It was an arc that most manga/anime should learn from. I just hope MH doesn't run out of budget money and f*** it up like every other long-running anime |
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Mephz said: Trafl-guy said: How is it cliche again? Cliche would be Don't read if you haven't read the manga!!!!!! |
Trafl-guy said: Don't read if you haven't read all the manga |
MephzOct 18, 2012 9:31 AM
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Mephz said: Trafl-guy said: Don't read if you haven't read all the manga |
Mikasa said: Agreed. It was an arc that most manga/anime should learn from. I just hope MH doesn't run out of budget money and f*** it up like every other long-running anime My main point of commenting which spiraled into an all out debate about that arc was that I see way too many comments along the lines of "oh if you thought that was good, so and so in the CA arc was much better" and I don't like how that leads new fans on. A lor of people were split on that arc (not just those who read it throughout the hiatuses) so to try to sway new fans like that seems unfair, especially since you're trying to downplay the two arcs that come before it. |
| ^agreed (though I only recall seeing people commenting on violence levels here) and to the people that want to debate the CA arc, there's a manga section for a reason.. |
fearthebeard85 said: Mikasa said: Agreed. It was an arc that most manga/anime should learn from. I just hope MH doesn't run out of budget money and f*** it up like every other long-running anime My main point of commenting which spiraled into an all out debate about that arc was that I see way too many comments along the lines of "oh if you thought that was good, so and so in the CA arc was much better" and I don't like how that leads new fans on. A lor of people were split on that arc (not just those who read it throughout the hiatuses) so to try to sway new fans like that seems unfair, especially since you're trying to downplay the two arcs that come before it. Actually they were only talking about the violence levels, if you thought that was bloody, wait for CA. Don't recall anyone talking about the story itself until you mentioned it lol :P And actually hyping up arcs like that makes people have higher expectations and some people might hate on the arc for no reason. You make it sound as if some fans are desperate and are begging people to like the CA. No. It can do well on it's own for people who come here for the story. "a lot of people were split on that arc" yeah and a lot of HxH episodes have higher ratings (90%) when they have fights and much lower ratings when they progress the story because they are "boring" and "nothing happened" despite the fact that much more happened in that certain episode compared to the one that was all about a mere fight. A lot of people here come expecting "just fights". My point is: Your bringing up "a lot of people were split" is irrelevant and doesn't really prove that it was bad. Or of lesser quality than that of YN. |
fearthebeard85 said: Mikasa said: Agreed. It was an arc that most manga/anime should learn from. I just hope MH doesn't run out of budget money and f*** it up like every other long-running anime My main point of commenting which spiraled into an all out debate about that arc was that I see way too many comments along the lines of "oh if you thought that was good, so and so in the CA arc was much better" and I don't like how that leads new fans on. A lor of people were split on that arc (not just those who read it throughout the hiatuses) so to try to sway new fans like that seems unfair, especially since you're trying to downplay the two arcs that come before it. "To not spoil anything I will put a simple comparison of violence level, this episodes is to puppies roughhousing and CA Arc is to a knife fight between two violent men..." New fans' reaction "the blood parts in this episode made me cringe a little bit i don't know if i can handle the 'chimera' (i think its called ?) arc because of what everyone has said.." So you start downplaying the CA arc, and call it overrated when people were only talking about the blood and you talk about how the old fans are trying to sway in the new fans? Sounds like you're just bitter about the arc and feel like hating on it here. And yes, the CA is the best arc, you prefer the YN arc? Or maybe an arc from a different manga? Good for you. But don't blame things on other people when you start it. Please. |
x5exoticOct 18, 2012 2:40 PM
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x5exotic said: "To not spoil anything I will put a simple comparison of violence level, this episodes is to puppies roughhousing and CA Arc is to a knife fight between two violent men..." New fans' reaction "the blood parts in this episode made me cringe a little bit i don't know if i can handle the 'chimera' (i think its called ?) arc because of what everyone has said.." So you start downplaying the CA arc, and call it overrated when people were only talking about the blood and you talk about how the old fans are trying to sway in the new fans? Sounds like you're just bitter about the arc and feel like hating on it here. And yes, the CA is the best arc, you prefer the YN arc? Or maybe an arc from a different manga? Good for you. But don't blame things on other people when you start it. Please. This is correct. |
NJZanDatsu said: The Chimera Ant arc was amazing. I've completely read the arc 3 times now. |
MonadOct 18, 2012 3:43 PM
NJZanDatsu said: x5exotic said: "To not spoil anything I will put a simple comparison of violence level, this episodes is to puppies roughhousing and CA Arc is to a knife fight between two violent men..." New fans' reaction "the blood parts in this episode made me cringe a little bit i don't know if i can handle the 'chimera' (i think its called ?) arc because of what everyone has said.." So you start downplaying the CA arc, and call it overrated when people were only talking about the blood and you talk about how the old fans are trying to sway in the new fans? Sounds like you're just bitter about the arc and feel like hating on it here. And yes, the CA is the best arc, you prefer the YN arc? Or maybe an arc from a different manga? Good for you. But don't blame things on other people when you start it. Please. This is correct. I remember when I first signed up here, and HxH was back, and it was Fearthebeard and Monad themselves who'd constantly bring up how "bad" the arc" was in every election chapter until I started whining about it lol. Apparently "super bugs" are unbelievable but zombies, giants, cyborgs, aliens and looney toons characters in a pirate world make perfect sense. |
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| Such a beautifull episode :'> |
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| Our opinions mean jack shit. When we eventually get to the arc. If new fans like it they, they like it, and if they don't like it, they don't like it. It's as simple as that. So let's just drop this whole discussion. We're not even in the Greed Island arc yet..... |
x5exotic said: I remember when I first signed up here, and HxH was back, and it was Fearthebeard and Monad themselves who'd constantly bring up how "bad" the arc" was in every election chapter until I started whining about it lol. Apparently "super bugs" are unbelievable but zombies, giants, cyborgs, aliens and looney toons characters in a pirate world make perfect sense. I don't remember this at all lol, if I did than damn that was a long time ago. I never said you guys can't like the damn arc, I know a lot of people like it but you also have to recognize that there are those who were disappointed. Do I hate the arc? No, I honestly think it will be much better in the anime than the manga, but obviously I don't hate it (look at my avatar). Like I said before, I just don't like how it gets brought up so often when we are a long way away from it. I know you guys won't drop the subject, and that's my fault for bringing it up in the first place, I take full responsibility for that. Will I call the Ant arc overrated? Yes I will because I have every right to feel that way, that doesn't mean I didn't like parts of it. I had my problems with it and will continue to have my problems with it. I would appreciate it if it didn't get brought up in every other thread though. I see at least one comment about the Ant arc in almost every episode discussion thread. I will drop the subject since I brought it up in the first place and that was my fault. I think I have the right to think the arc was overrated and voice my opinion of it, but here was the wrong place to do it. So yeah, I will stop posting about that subject here. |
fearthebeard85 said: x5exotic said: I remember when I first signed up here, and HxH was back, and it was Fearthebeard and Monad themselves who'd constantly bring up how "bad" the arc" was in every election chapter until I started whining about it lol. Apparently "super bugs" are unbelievable but zombies, giants, cyborgs, aliens and looney toons characters in a pirate world make perfect sense. I don't remember this at all lol, if I did than damn that was a long time ago. I never said you guys can't like the damn arc, I know a lot of people like it but you also have to recognize that there are those who were disappointed. Do I hate the arc? No, I honestly think it will be much better in the anime than the manga, but obviously I don't hate it (look at my avatar). Like I said before, I just don't like how it gets brought up so often when we are a long way away from it. I know you guys won't drop the subject, and that's my fault for bringing it up in the first place, I take full responsibility for that. Will I call the Ant arc overrated? Yes I will because I have every right to feel that way, that doesn't mean I didn't like parts of it. I had my problems with it and will continue to have my problems with it. I would appreciate it if it didn't get brought up in every other thread though. I see at least one comment about the Ant arc in almost every episode discussion thread. I will drop the subject since I brought it up in the first place and that was my fault. I think I have the right to think the arc was overrated and voice my opinion of it, but here was the wrong place to do it. So yeah, I will stop posting about that subject here. Again, YOU are the one who brought it up. People were discussing how the violence will be handled in the CA arc based on how it's being handled now and all of a sudden you're like "man I dislike this arc so much people stop talking about how good it is" And just as much as you claim to have the right to dislike it, others have the right to like it. And since you're obviously the one who brought this topic here, you're the one who's forcing stuff down people's throats. And we're technically 1 arc away from it. From episode 1 to 39 we've heard much more about how "Yorknew will be awesome". You see a CA arc in every thread? Well I used to see YS in every thread but you don't see me complaining. And again, it was about the violence, not whatever it is you're hating on. @Chikky you're dead to me! >.< |
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x5exotic said: Again, YOU are the one who brought it up. People were discussing how the violence will be handled in the CA arc based on how it's being handled now and all of a sudden you're like "man I dislike this arc so much people stop talking about how good it is" And just as much as you claim to have the right to dislike it, others have the right to like it. And since you're obviously the one who brought this topic here, you're the one who's forcing stuff down people's throats. And we're technically 1 arc away from it. From episode 1 to 39 we've heard much more about how "Yorknew will be awesome". You see a CA arc in every thread? Well I used to see YS in every thread but you don't see me complaining. And again, it was about the violence, not whatever it is you're hating on. @Chikky you're dead to me! >.< "man I dislike this arc so much people stop talking about how good it is" I never once said this lol, the fact that you resorted to using words I never said is completely immature. Second, I acknowledged it was my fault for bringing it up in the first place, I shouldn't have brought it up at all. That doesn't mean I am not going to comment back though when you insult me by quoting words I never said. |
fearthebeard85 said: x5exotic said: Again, YOU are the one who brought it up. People were discussing how the violence will be handled in the CA arc based on how it's being handled now and all of a sudden you're like "man I dislike this arc so much people stop talking about how good it is" And just as much as you claim to have the right to dislike it, others have the right to like it. And since you're obviously the one who brought this topic here, you're the one who's forcing stuff down people's throats. And we're technically 1 arc away from it. From episode 1 to 39 we've heard much more about how "Yorknew will be awesome". You see a CA arc in every thread? Well I used to see YS in every thread but you don't see me complaining. And again, it was about the violence, not whatever it is you're hating on. @Chikky you're dead to me! >.< "man I dislike this arc so much people stop talking about how good it is" I never once said this lol, the fact that you resorted to using words I never said is completely immature. Second, I acknowledged it was my fault for bringing it up in the first place, I shouldn't have brought it up at all. That doesn't mean I am not going to comment back though when you insult me by quoting words I never said. "I think a lot of you guys overrate the Chimera Ant stuff (not on the violence of course but as an arc in general). Not to say that the arc is bad, but it gets hype like it's the defining arc of HxH in a lot of these threads." "Like I said before, I just don't like how it gets brought up so often" Yes that is what you said, I'm just saying it in my own words. That's not really putting words in your mouth -_______- It's just not me quoting your exact words. |
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x5exotic said: NJZanDatsu said: x5exotic said: "To not spoil anything I will put a simple comparison of violence level, this episodes is to puppies roughhousing and CA Arc is to a knife fight between two violent men..." New fans' reaction "the blood parts in this episode made me cringe a little bit i don't know if i can handle the 'chimera' (i think its called ?) arc because of what everyone has said.." So you start downplaying the CA arc, and call it overrated when people were only talking about the blood and you talk about how the old fans are trying to sway in the new fans? Sounds like you're just bitter about the arc and feel like hating on it here. And yes, the CA is the best arc, you prefer the YN arc? Or maybe an arc from a different manga? Good for you. But don't blame things on other people when you start it. Please. This is correct. I remember when I first signed up here, and HxH was back, and it was Fearthebeard and Monad themselves who'd constantly bring up how "bad" the arc" was in every election chapter until I started whining about it lol. Apparently "super bugs" are unbelievable but zombies, giants, cyborgs, aliens and looney toons characters in a pirate world make perfect sense. So according to your ridiculous logic if Death Note continued with an invasion of space alien monkeys would have been just fine since One Piece and Dragon Ball have crazy shit too. You have to be really ignorant to not realize the difference of an element fitting easily in the atmosphere of a story and not. |
x5exotic said: fearthebeard85 said: x5exotic said: Again, YOU are the one who brought it up. People were discussing how the violence will be handled in the CA arc based on how it's being handled now and all of a sudden you're like "man I dislike this arc so much people stop talking about how good it is" And just as much as you claim to have the right to dislike it, others have the right to like it. And since you're obviously the one who brought this topic here, you're the one who's forcing stuff down people's throats. And we're technically 1 arc away from it. From episode 1 to 39 we've heard much more about how "Yorknew will be awesome". You see a CA arc in every thread? Well I used to see YS in every thread but you don't see me complaining. And again, it was about the violence, not whatever it is you're hating on. @Chikky you're dead to me! >.< "man I dislike this arc so much people stop talking about how good it is" I never once said this lol, the fact that you resorted to using words I never said is completely immature. Second, I acknowledged it was my fault for bringing it up in the first place, I shouldn't have brought it up at all. That doesn't mean I am not going to comment back though when you insult me by quoting words I never said. "I think a lot of you guys overrate the Chimera Ant stuff (not on the violence of course but as an arc in general). Not to say that the arc is bad, but it gets hype like it's the defining arc of HxH in a lot of these threads." "Like I said before, I just don't like how it gets brought up so often" Yes that is what you said, I'm just saying it in my own words. That's not really putting words in your mouth -_______- It's just not me quoting your exact words. I never said I dislike the arc though :I .... I said it was overrated, but I don't think it's bad. If I disliked the arc so much I wouldn't have |
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| Togashi planned the whole manga from start till end before he even began writing it. |
BlackListHunter said: Togashi planned the whole manga from start till end before he even began writing it. That's....not even a compliment <.< If a writer plans the whole manga then doesn't that mean he just decided to postpone the release date and get as many chances to correct things? But togashi said in an interview that after the ant arc 5-6 stories are left. Of course he hasn't written every single detail yet. |
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| 5-6 stories within 3-4 arcs. |
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Mikasa said: 5-6 stories within 3-4 arcs. I knew I had heard that somewhere as well. |
| Oh man... oh man.. that was epic. I'm like cringing out of excitement. This just gets better and better, no joke at all. Can't wait for tomorrow. |
| oh lordy I am so hyped for tomorrow's episode. I'm sure Madhouse's version of the fight will be incredible, just like the Hisoka vs. Gon battle. |
| The main reason I love HxH so much, since the 1st version, is that ppl actually die in it. There's blood, there's pain, and almost no regrets about it. I dropped Naruto and Bleach cuz I just got sick of waiting 10 Episodes for a fight, and then ... "I'll let the guy go, he learned his lesson". HxH dont have that kind of bullsh*t, ppl die when their time has come, they dont turn into water, they dont dissapear like magic. 10/10 for this episode, cuz that fish still scary. =D |
| it was so beautiful that i shedded a manly tear |
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