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| I hate the fact this is 26 episodes. I want it to continue all they way to my favorite character Kujo Jotaro. Jonathan Joestar great great grandson. Takana_no_Hana said: Oh well Psycho-pass is much more entertaining. Dropped this. So you saying a show with an annoying bitch thats going to slow down the main guy is more entertaining. I guess you like silly side characters like Sakura(naruto). |
Takana_no_Hana said: leokiko said: MasterKingJC said: Lol, looks like there are some people who are too accustomed to generic, cookie-cutter moe faces. My exact thoughts. How about you trying some shounen-ish stuffs nowadays such as FMA, Gintama, Magi? Ofc this show has its charms, such as the art styles, classic type, but sorry, until now there's nothing much special, just like the guy above me said. Let's just face with the criticisms. I'm not saying that it's bad, but there's nothing special yet to be liked. Oh well Psycho-pass is much more entertaining. Dropped this. Good. You left, huh? That's exactly what I wanted you to do. One less to criticize a show after only 2 episodes for "abusing cliches". WUT? FMA, Gintama and Magi? You just listed my favorite shounens(well, except for HxH). |
leokikoOct 13, 2012 9:34 AM
bonifide said: I hate the fact this is 26 episodes. I want it to continue all they way to my favorite character Kujo Jotaro. Jonathan Joestar great great grandson. Takana_no_Hana said: Oh well Psycho-pass is much more entertaining. Dropped this. So you saying a show with an annoying bitch thats going to slow down the main guy is more entertaining. I guess you like silly side characters like Sakura(naruto). If you understand and try to analyze her mental state first before making assumption, you will probably understand the show better. Slicer22 said: It requires deep thoughts, and by judging the char's appearance, or actions as annoying without noticing proper situation first, then yeah go ahead and call her annoying, or drop it, do whatever you like cause idc, with you all the show has was just having good animation, annoying chars. So I won't evaluate more, it's pointless anyway. K let's stop derailing this matter(psycho thing) since it's a JoJo thread. Nayrael said: You've earned my respect, you're right to the point, anime industry has never stopped evolving. Whoever doesn't realize that, well I've nothing to say to them anyway. Oh well, not all its lost with you yet then as psycho-pass has lot of potential, gets a plus for openly saying it aims to counter so called "evolution". Psycho-Pass is filled with cliche's used for decades. The expectations for it are its writer: Urobuchi Gen, a man people trust will make something special soon enough. Exactly, that is what I'm expecting for when watching Psycho-pass, cause I'm waiting for something amazing to be pulled out by Gen, guess I don't need mention about F/Z, here's something worth digging in Madoka: http://imperialx.wordpress.com/2011/04/22/madoka-doesnt-need-a-sequel-to-explain-itself/ with all the debates and stuff, there's gonna be a sequential movie. And by all means, these 're a few in many products of evolution(which success ofc). |
Takana_no_HanaOct 13, 2012 10:01 AM
| Please, talk in private. If you want to talk about Psycho-Pass, there is a topic for that |
fdsfgs said: Does anyone know how long it takes for a new fansub group request to be approved? I've been trying to request DUWANG be added as a fansub group for this series every day for a week now, but I'm not sure how to check the status of my request or even how long it usually takes. I am the only one who thinks that DUWANG would instantly be the top rated sub group for this anime? Stuff like "rich for me only", "King me!", "Ihate the rich, but i don't them" or the ingenious opening & ending translations deserve to be watched by everyone. |
| Steel Ball Run anime when? |
| ^ Nayrael said: I don't care how good new joJo's will be, I am already in love with the first part. There was not one thing I disliked in the episode and even Jojo turned into a likable character. If next parts really are better... well, bring it on baby for I am ready B-D So much damn generic crap, you know whats mediocre?: fanservice harem and moe! Totally a downgrade, you are free to not like the series or its artsyle but dont speak none-sense, screw stories , screw characters, all it takes nowadays to make anime is panties, tits and cute girls doing cute things, evolve my **** Fanservice exists in every genre in every time. You can jump in every point in the past and you will give you a list of what they consider generic crap. And as in every time, there is quite a few of good shows in every season, especially in Springs and Autumns. I don't even touch fanservice, harem and moe and yet I still have shows to watch. Art style evolved?? Yea sure, What bad tastes you have to like supposed art style that looks the damn same, its impossible to distinguish characters nowadays, the same shitty generic and cheap art-style and designs used over and over again., One can guess from which age art-style is by just looking at it. 90's, 80's and even 70's, all have their respective popular art styles. That there are a lot of shows and Manga using the similar style in same time is decades old history. The only difference is that it seems you only now got to notice all this. Oh well, not all its lost with you yet then as psycho-pass has lot of potential, gets a plus for openly saying it aims to counter so called "evolution". Psycho-Pass is filled with cliche's used for decades. The expectations for it are its writer: Urobuchi Gen, a man people trust will make something special soon enough. Also I´ll say it directly you lack taste if you believe "art-style" has evolved and shallow for grounding your opinion on looks, like I said, nowadays screw stories and characters, the core of what makes something great, NOT looks. Ah yes, the same thing criticizers repeat for decades and centuries in all story-making industries, just because they now started to realize that not everything on the market ain't awesome. Again, I repeat you are free to not like the art-style, but its totally non-sense your so called "anime has evolved", and this remark alone is what I am referring to. It does evolve every year. Just because it is not something you find good does not mean it didn't evolve. Evolution is just change, not transformation into something everyone will agree on is better. This argument is actually really stupid. I enjoyed Madoka, F/Z and other recent titles such as Jinrui for their good storytelling and directing just as much as I enjoy Jojo, Hokuto no Ken and stuff like City Hunter. The problem is most people are narrowminded, this extends to both the fans blinded by nostalgia, the guys who only care about pretty designs and good animation and of course the pseudo-elitists who sometimes seem to be a combination of these two... ^This It has the typical shonen retardations and format whether it's officially shonen or not. It's also like Digimon, but for teenagers. Every 5 episodes you get one scene that you'd consider mature(mostly convos , but that's it, the rest is basically fancy talk that is too obvious it's laughable. Reminds me of CG. F/Z has elements of both elements and inspirations from Shounens and Seinens... as well as pros and cons of both styles. This post probably enlighten you a little, and dw this is the last post that I wrote. It's pointless to discuss anyway since most fan boy just don't accept serious criticisms. |
Takana_no_HanaOct 13, 2012 11:21 AM
| How can they be fanboys with only 2 episodes in? This isn't SAO or Gintama (trololo reference) |
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HibiChouchou said: It occurs to me that fan boys just don't take criticisms about the show seriously. I enjoy the episode so far but when I read its manga I just found out that berserk is better in comparison, my all time fav manga that is <3. With 26episode this show is quite risky to invest in. The style looks like western comic at first though. Wonder if the length is long enough to finish the first arc. Comparing the overall weakest part to Berserk is really pointless. |
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| ^ yes but this show is actually pure gold right now >.< So it's different lol |
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How can they be fanboys with only 2 episodes in? It simple, there are person who read the manga and we(or they) love it. Part 4 must be animate for see Kira Yoshikage |
Takana_no_Hana said: This post probably enlighten you a little, and dw this is the last post that I wrote. It's pointless to discuss anyway since most fan boy just don't accept serious criticisms. Problem is you didn't make any serious criticisms except: this anime is based on an old manga... bla bla bla... Today's anime have much more complex story... All your criticisms were shallow comparisons with your current favorite anime, and that didn't give us any explanation as to why you don't like this anime. |
Nyl685 said: By the way, I can´t stop listening to this awesome Opening song. When is it going to be on Youtube? :( Never. It gets taken down because of Shueisha. |
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| I must admit, as a HUGE fan of the manga (Jojo is my favorite manga too) and as a guy who is very strict with anime adaptations of manga that I like, I wasn't expecting very much of Jojo because of Araki's unique style of drawing and narrative, wich is very difficult to emulate in media other than manga, but........ I've got surprised! David Production has done a great work with the series so far, even tough it's only the begginning. The OST, the voice acting, the visual effects (e.g including the original classic SFXs of the manga) and the pacing of the story are very well-done. The animation is a bit poor, but considering the low-budget that it had, it's acceptable, nothing so horrid to dislike it so much. It seems the anime is pleasing the fans of the original manga and even bringing more fans to the series, wich started to watch it and started to become interested in the original manga. It's very good that the Jojo love is spreading all way around. I barely watch anime (just read manga 99% of the time), but Jojo is one I will watch with pleasure if it continues like this. :D We need more anime good like this, instead of all this moe/lolicon/whatever bullshit that is spreading nowadays. PS: The Opening IS SO DAMN AWESOME! I just can't stop listening it too. |
| Considering JoJo's is very popular in Japan I wonder why it never had a proper anime sooner and also a low budget? Or is it not as popular as I thought? |
SetsukoHara said: Problem is you didn't make any serious criticisms except: this anime is based on an old manga... bla bla bla... Today's anime have much more complex story... All your criticisms were shallow comparisons with your current favorite anime, and that didn't give us any explanation as to why you don't like this anime. Okay I will break my words and make a post here: Problem? Time skip, 7 years have passed, for all the trouble Jojo've been through in the past, I didn't see any legit reasons for him to create a relationship with Dio. (in this case he did, but still in doubt Dio, well good then, but he accepted his friendship, for what legit reason? ) Nice OP, I admit that, but there's a same formula which has been used since the start, like Hibi said, Dio tormented Jojo in first ep, he fought back. Then Dio turned his direction into Jojo's father, Jojo found out his scheme and fought back. Next time, Dio struggle for his life, fight back, Jojo suffered(perhaps) and find ways to counter it. Anything new? Nope. If you think that vampire stuff was nice, then I agree. The plot will have something to do with it anyway(like Dio makes contract or use the mask to gain an immerse power), way too easy to predict. And about the fight? I can't stand Jojo's stupidity, click spoilers. Next time, in middle of the fight, less talking (when he dominated someone, trash talks appeared. Just like spamming GGGGGGG when you finished someone in HoN. ), more fighting. Oh at least the gore was nice though. Plot/Story: Still waiting for something new, at this moment, it's nothing special to be worth praising. Action/animation: it's even worst than SAO. |
Takana_no_HanaOct 13, 2012 12:37 PM
| Johnathan didn't accept his friendship he merely put up with DIO and "played nice" so to speak for his father and his own sake. He blocked those ways to create an opening just like he did when he fought DIO in the first episode. The fact that he held back when fighting Speedwagon and the others was because he just wanted to incapacitate them, Johnathan is trying to be a gentleman not a thug. Also the story doesn't try to hide anything, the mask makes it's presence known in the first 5 minutes of the first episode(and also in the third panel of the manga). |
| I like this show so much manlyness that's what we need most in this generation of moe , lolis and bishies |
| Okay I will break my words and make a post here: Problem? Time skip, 7 years have passed, for all the trouble Jojo've been through in the past, I didn't see any legit reasons for him to create a relationship with Dio. (in this case he did, but still in doubt Dio, well good then, but he accepted his friendship, for what legit reason? ) Nice OP, I admit that, but there's a same formula which has been used since the start, like Hibi said, Dio tormented Jojo in first ep, he fought back. Then Dio turned his direction into Jojo's father, Jojo found out his scheme and fought back. Next time, Dio struggle for his life, fight back, Jojo suffered(perhaps) and find ways to counter it. Anything new? Nope. If you think that vampire stuff was nice, then I agree. The plot will have something to do with it anyway(like Dio makes contract or use the mask to gain an immerse power), way too easy to predict. And about the fight? I can't stand Jojo's stupidity, click spoilers. Next time, in middle of the fight, less talking (when he dominated someone, trash talks appeared. Just like spamming GGGGGGG when you finished someone in HoN. ), more fighting. Oh at least the gore was nice though. Plot/Story: Still waiting for something new, at this moment, it's nothing special to be worth praising. Action/animation: it's even worst than SAO. Jonathan was the one who wanted to be friends with Dio in the first place. He said so himself in the first episode. Also add in the fact that he lives with Dio. While it is not uncommon for room mates to argue and fight for the sake of one's own insanity it is important to have a certain level of respect. Especially when you're stuck with each other. Also it's implied that Dio stopped being so mean to JoJo--of course that was just Dio being sneaky and underhanded.If you noticed Dio speaks much more respectfully to JoJo then he did in the first episode. Again this is of course due to Dio putting up a facade so he can murder George Joestar and steal the family inheritance. Also add in the fact that Jonathan actually rather mistrusted Dio. So while the two acted like friends they were in fact enemies. The 7 year time skip could be seen as a temporary truce in a way. As a fan of the manga I can tell you the storyline of Phantom Blood is definitely simplistic and straight forward. It's cheesy for sure. But it's a fun kind of cheesy though again probably not so much for yourself. But for others like myself the simplicity works. If you're in it for the action I would then wait until after episode 3 since there is likely to be a lot of action there. JoJo |
| This show is SO amazing! I'm so glad someone convinced me to watch this :') |
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| DIOOO!!!!/10 Opening was kinda reminiscent of Hokuto no Ken, but I've loved both series for decades upon decades, so who cares... Still loving the voice actors, and that ending song is amazing. Speedwagon's introduction wasn't nearly as classy as it was in the manga though :(. and when the vampire broke through the wall, the effect wasn't as badass as in the manga.. still over 800,000,000,000/5... and Part one may be the weakest out of all 8 parts of the series, but it's got one of the best settings, and it's still 69,800,000,000,000/10 non the less. |
OchimushaOct 13, 2012 1:46 PM
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| I can't believe the inane, irrelevant "criticisms" this show is getting. The manga was at the APEX of the 80s shonen craze, and it most definitely shows here; so in that aspect, yes, you could say it's "dated". Just because it doesn't appeal to your modern sensibilities, however, doesn't make it crap; It's like comparing silver-age Batman to 90s Batman: just because silver-age Batman isn't a complex, dark character in contrast to his 90s counterpart doesn't make him any worse of a character; they're just different takes with different sensibilities of the time, and it would be most apt to approach the older parts of Jojo as such, so expect campiness, absurd demonstrations of 'manliness', and ultra-violence; it was just par-course for the time. What's easy for me to say, however, is that whenever Jojo's been in publication, it's pretty much always been at the top of shonen battle manga, and to this day, it pretty much holds true (unless you strictly count SBR and Jojolion as senien). |
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Jukeheadrop said: Takana_no_Hana said: ... Jojo's not the series for you and that's ok. It's always been a fairly niche manga despite its incredible influence and Phantom Blood in particular is extremely raw as the author was just starting out. Its also ok to think that Phantom Blood is dated (after all, it was written 25 years ago). Just move on. You have better things to do with your life. Just don't think that you're allowed to make a judgement call on an entire series of 108 volumes after you've seen the anime adaption prologue part of a prologue arc. Honestly, you keep bringing up all these other series as if they are proof that Jojo is a thing of a past while being blissfully ignorant of the fact that a. Jojo is still running and extremely relevant. The series has definitely matured in terms of story-telling, characters and art. Jojo has been on exhibit in the Louvre, Araki (the author) was named one of the 100 most influential Japanese men alive, and Jojo's Bizarre Adventure was named the second most culturally relevant manga series by the Japanese Bureau of Culture. b. All these other series you name have been directly influenced by Jojo. In fact, in the case of FMA, the author did an interview with Araki and said that he grew up imitating Hamon attacks and fantasizing of Stands that he wished he had. He named Jojo to be a work of art that "gives him courage to live". Togashi (author of HxH) and Urobuchi (writer for F/Z and Psycho-Pass) have both named Araki as being a massive influence on them. FMA's Arakawa is a woman. : P |
Jukeheadrop said: Dangerr said: FMA's Arakawa is a woman. : P Really? Wooow. Haha, yeah; ironic that she's made some of the most 'manly' characters and battle sequences of any shonen manga I can recall. |
Mortum_Kujo said: Considering JoJo's is very popular in Japan I wonder why it never had a proper anime sooner and also a low budget? Or is it not as popular as I thought? JoJo's art is something that isn't exactly the easiest thing to animate properly. |
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| Another awesome episode, and the opening was great! |
Takana_no_Hana said: This show is pretty much shounen-ish, but it's for the older generation, ages ago. Remember that the manga was published in 1986, imagine that? It aimed for shounen, means young boy at the current time, now most of them have become mature, the style hasn't changed itself a bit, look at the top shounen manga, bleach, naruto, gintama, FMA, kuroko but nowhere did this "JoJo" appeared, because it has lost its position, its style hasn't changed a bit, it still lives in its glorious and delusional past, unless those adults mentioned above decided to read(again) and call it "shounen", cause young generation nowadays hardly find anything interesting in it. ...would it really hurt you to do atleast a tiny bit of research before building your arguements upon nothing but your own uninformed deductions?Just a few minutes of attentive reading would reveal to you the fact that JoJo's Bizzare Adventure has been a seinen series since 2004,when it first moved to the seinen magazine Ultra Jump with Part 7-Steel Ball Run. Maybe,just maybe,the fact that you aren't seeing the recent parts of JoJo in shounen poularity polls or whatever you are citing is because they are not shounen? Infact,that manga's still running to this day absolutely invalidates you notion of it being a thing of the past.You could claim nostalgia,but there'll be a nasty problem against this claim-the current JoJo is quite different from Part 1.Though you wouldn't know this,as this particular statement clearly demonstates: its style hasn't changed a bit Alright,let me demonstrate the forever static and unchanging style of JoJo's Bizzare Adventure. Part 1,Phantom Blood,the adaptation of which,you're infact discussing:  Part 8,Jojolion: Yup,not a speck of artistic evolution over the years. |
SanderRXOct 13, 2012 3:28 PM
| Good episode. Speedwagon sounded different than how I expected, but it still fit. |
| It is I Jonathan Joestar. Well, you can call me JoJo. =_= |
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| It's rather interesting that people complain about the art style, which is for now the only thing I like about JoJo. I was really expecting greater things from Dio. What a boring, predictable villain he has turned out to be. Though I suppose he's a good fit for the over-the-top, semblance-of-reality, soap drama parts. I guess I just can't wait to get to the fights. Ah, well, I like the OP. The animation, at least. I understand where they were going with the song, and it would have been a good fit had they done it properly, but as it is, it's somewhat underwhelming. |
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