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Takana_no_Hana said: This post probably enlighten you a little, and dw this is the last post that I wrote. It's pointless to discuss anyway since most fan boy just don't accept serious criticisms. Problem is you didn't make any serious criticisms except: this anime is based on an old manga... bla bla bla... Today's anime have much more complex story... All your criticisms were shallow comparisons with your current favorite anime, and that didn't give us any explanation as to why you don't like this anime. |
Nyl685 said: By the way, I can´t stop listening to this awesome Opening song. When is it going to be on Youtube? :( Never. It gets taken down because of Shueisha. |
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| I must admit, as a HUGE fan of the manga (Jojo is my favorite manga too) and as a guy who is very strict with anime adaptations of manga that I like, I wasn't expecting very much of Jojo because of Araki's unique style of drawing and narrative, wich is very difficult to emulate in media other than manga, but........ I've got surprised! David Production has done a great work with the series so far, even tough it's only the begginning. The OST, the voice acting, the visual effects (e.g including the original classic SFXs of the manga) and the pacing of the story are very well-done. The animation is a bit poor, but considering the low-budget that it had, it's acceptable, nothing so horrid to dislike it so much. It seems the anime is pleasing the fans of the original manga and even bringing more fans to the series, wich started to watch it and started to become interested in the original manga. It's very good that the Jojo love is spreading all way around. I barely watch anime (just read manga 99% of the time), but Jojo is one I will watch with pleasure if it continues like this. :D We need more anime good like this, instead of all this moe/lolicon/whatever bullshit that is spreading nowadays. PS: The Opening IS SO DAMN AWESOME! I just can't stop listening it too. |
| Considering JoJo's is very popular in Japan I wonder why it never had a proper anime sooner and also a low budget? Or is it not as popular as I thought? |
SetsukoHara said: Problem is you didn't make any serious criticisms except: this anime is based on an old manga... bla bla bla... Today's anime have much more complex story... All your criticisms were shallow comparisons with your current favorite anime, and that didn't give us any explanation as to why you don't like this anime. Okay I will break my words and make a post here: Problem? Time skip, 7 years have passed, for all the trouble Jojo've been through in the past, I didn't see any legit reasons for him to create a relationship with Dio. (in this case he did, but still in doubt Dio, well good then, but he accepted his friendship, for what legit reason? ) Nice OP, I admit that, but there's a same formula which has been used since the start, like Hibi said, Dio tormented Jojo in first ep, he fought back. Then Dio turned his direction into Jojo's father, Jojo found out his scheme and fought back. Next time, Dio struggle for his life, fight back, Jojo suffered(perhaps) and find ways to counter it. Anything new? Nope. If you think that vampire stuff was nice, then I agree. The plot will have something to do with it anyway(like Dio makes contract or use the mask to gain an immerse power), way too easy to predict. And about the fight? I can't stand Jojo's stupidity, click spoilers. Next time, in middle of the fight, less talking (when he dominated someone, trash talks appeared. Just like spamming GGGGGGG when you finished someone in HoN. ), more fighting. Oh at least the gore was nice though. Plot/Story: Still waiting for something new, at this moment, it's nothing special to be worth praising. Action/animation: it's even worst than SAO. |
Takana_no_HanaOct 13, 2012 12:37 PM
| Johnathan didn't accept his friendship he merely put up with DIO and "played nice" so to speak for his father and his own sake. He blocked those ways to create an opening just like he did when he fought DIO in the first episode. The fact that he held back when fighting Speedwagon and the others was because he just wanted to incapacitate them, Johnathan is trying to be a gentleman not a thug. Also the story doesn't try to hide anything, the mask makes it's presence known in the first 5 minutes of the first episode(and also in the third panel of the manga). |
| I like this show so much manlyness that's what we need most in this generation of moe , lolis and bishies |
| Okay I will break my words and make a post here: Problem? Time skip, 7 years have passed, for all the trouble Jojo've been through in the past, I didn't see any legit reasons for him to create a relationship with Dio. (in this case he did, but still in doubt Dio, well good then, but he accepted his friendship, for what legit reason? ) Nice OP, I admit that, but there's a same formula which has been used since the start, like Hibi said, Dio tormented Jojo in first ep, he fought back. Then Dio turned his direction into Jojo's father, Jojo found out his scheme and fought back. Next time, Dio struggle for his life, fight back, Jojo suffered(perhaps) and find ways to counter it. Anything new? Nope. If you think that vampire stuff was nice, then I agree. The plot will have something to do with it anyway(like Dio makes contract or use the mask to gain an immerse power), way too easy to predict. And about the fight? I can't stand Jojo's stupidity, click spoilers. Next time, in middle of the fight, less talking (when he dominated someone, trash talks appeared. Just like spamming GGGGGGG when you finished someone in HoN. ), more fighting. Oh at least the gore was nice though. Plot/Story: Still waiting for something new, at this moment, it's nothing special to be worth praising. Action/animation: it's even worst than SAO. Jonathan was the one who wanted to be friends with Dio in the first place. He said so himself in the first episode. Also add in the fact that he lives with Dio. While it is not uncommon for room mates to argue and fight for the sake of one's own insanity it is important to have a certain level of respect. Especially when you're stuck with each other. Also it's implied that Dio stopped being so mean to JoJo--of course that was just Dio being sneaky and underhanded.If you noticed Dio speaks much more respectfully to JoJo then he did in the first episode. Again this is of course due to Dio putting up a facade so he can murder George Joestar and steal the family inheritance. Also add in the fact that Jonathan actually rather mistrusted Dio. So while the two acted like friends they were in fact enemies. The 7 year time skip could be seen as a temporary truce in a way. As a fan of the manga I can tell you the storyline of Phantom Blood is definitely simplistic and straight forward. It's cheesy for sure. But it's a fun kind of cheesy though again probably not so much for yourself. But for others like myself the simplicity works. If you're in it for the action I would then wait until after episode 3 since there is likely to be a lot of action there. JoJo |
| This show is SO amazing! I'm so glad someone convinced me to watch this :') |
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| DIOOO!!!!/10 Opening was kinda reminiscent of Hokuto no Ken, but I've loved both series for decades upon decades, so who cares... Still loving the voice actors, and that ending song is amazing. Speedwagon's introduction wasn't nearly as classy as it was in the manga though :(. and when the vampire broke through the wall, the effect wasn't as badass as in the manga.. still over 800,000,000,000/5... and Part one may be the weakest out of all 8 parts of the series, but it's got one of the best settings, and it's still 69,800,000,000,000/10 non the less. |
OchimushaOct 13, 2012 1:46 PM
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| I can't believe the inane, irrelevant "criticisms" this show is getting. The manga was at the APEX of the 80s shonen craze, and it most definitely shows here; so in that aspect, yes, you could say it's "dated". Just because it doesn't appeal to your modern sensibilities, however, doesn't make it crap; It's like comparing silver-age Batman to 90s Batman: just because silver-age Batman isn't a complex, dark character in contrast to his 90s counterpart doesn't make him any worse of a character; they're just different takes with different sensibilities of the time, and it would be most apt to approach the older parts of Jojo as such, so expect campiness, absurd demonstrations of 'manliness', and ultra-violence; it was just par-course for the time. What's easy for me to say, however, is that whenever Jojo's been in publication, it's pretty much always been at the top of shonen battle manga, and to this day, it pretty much holds true (unless you strictly count SBR and Jojolion as senien). |
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Jukeheadrop said: Takana_no_Hana said: ... Jojo's not the series for you and that's ok. It's always been a fairly niche manga despite its incredible influence and Phantom Blood in particular is extremely raw as the author was just starting out. Its also ok to think that Phantom Blood is dated (after all, it was written 25 years ago). Just move on. You have better things to do with your life. Just don't think that you're allowed to make a judgement call on an entire series of 108 volumes after you've seen the anime adaption prologue part of a prologue arc. Honestly, you keep bringing up all these other series as if they are proof that Jojo is a thing of a past while being blissfully ignorant of the fact that a. Jojo is still running and extremely relevant. The series has definitely matured in terms of story-telling, characters and art. Jojo has been on exhibit in the Louvre, Araki (the author) was named one of the 100 most influential Japanese men alive, and Jojo's Bizarre Adventure was named the second most culturally relevant manga series by the Japanese Bureau of Culture. b. All these other series you name have been directly influenced by Jojo. In fact, in the case of FMA, the author did an interview with Araki and said that he grew up imitating Hamon attacks and fantasizing of Stands that he wished he had. He named Jojo to be a work of art that "gives him courage to live". Togashi (author of HxH) and Urobuchi (writer for F/Z and Psycho-Pass) have both named Araki as being a massive influence on them. FMA's Arakawa is a woman. : P |
Jukeheadrop said: Dangerr said: FMA's Arakawa is a woman. : P Really? Wooow. Haha, yeah; ironic that she's made some of the most 'manly' characters and battle sequences of any shonen manga I can recall. |
Mortum_Kujo said: Considering JoJo's is very popular in Japan I wonder why it never had a proper anime sooner and also a low budget? Or is it not as popular as I thought? JoJo's art is something that isn't exactly the easiest thing to animate properly. |
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| Another awesome episode, and the opening was great! |
Takana_no_Hana said: This show is pretty much shounen-ish, but it's for the older generation, ages ago. Remember that the manga was published in 1986, imagine that? It aimed for shounen, means young boy at the current time, now most of them have become mature, the style hasn't changed itself a bit, look at the top shounen manga, bleach, naruto, gintama, FMA, kuroko but nowhere did this "JoJo" appeared, because it has lost its position, its style hasn't changed a bit, it still lives in its glorious and delusional past, unless those adults mentioned above decided to read(again) and call it "shounen", cause young generation nowadays hardly find anything interesting in it. ...would it really hurt you to do atleast a tiny bit of research before building your arguements upon nothing but your own uninformed deductions?Just a few minutes of attentive reading would reveal to you the fact that JoJo's Bizzare Adventure has been a seinen series since 2004,when it first moved to the seinen magazine Ultra Jump with Part 7-Steel Ball Run. Maybe,just maybe,the fact that you aren't seeing the recent parts of JoJo in shounen poularity polls or whatever you are citing is because they are not shounen? Infact,that manga's still running to this day absolutely invalidates you notion of it being a thing of the past.You could claim nostalgia,but there'll be a nasty problem against this claim-the current JoJo is quite different from Part 1.Though you wouldn't know this,as this particular statement clearly demonstates: its style hasn't changed a bit Alright,let me demonstrate the forever static and unchanging style of JoJo's Bizzare Adventure. Part 1,Phantom Blood,the adaptation of which,you're infact discussing:  Part 8,Jojolion: Yup,not a speck of artistic evolution over the years. |
SanderRXOct 13, 2012 3:28 PM
| Good episode. Speedwagon sounded different than how I expected, but it still fit. |
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| It's rather interesting that people complain about the art style, which is for now the only thing I like about JoJo. I was really expecting greater things from Dio. What a boring, predictable villain he has turned out to be. Though I suppose he's a good fit for the over-the-top, semblance-of-reality, soap drama parts. I guess I just can't wait to get to the fights. Ah, well, I like the OP. The animation, at least. I understand where they were going with the song, and it would have been a good fit had they done it properly, but as it is, it's somewhat underwhelming. |
SanderRX said: Takana_no_Hana said: This is the anime adaptation and it has nothing to do with the original manga, it's fking retarded to compare an animated shounen show based on its origin. Just because its manga was classic, doesn't mean that the anime itself is good, nor classic. And, 2004 is not really a thing in the past btw, it's now likely near the current trend tier. From 1986 to 2004 was a huge time jump there for any series or industry to make changes/evolutions, almost 2decades have passed. And I was talking about the first part adaptation. It's the second longest manga run ever, so you can easily chop it down into several significant changes along the time line. |
Takana_no_HanaOct 13, 2012 5:10 PM
| THIS... WAS... FUUUUUCKIN' EPIC!!! Now I'm absolutely lovin' this series |
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namelessregret said: This deserves at least a 9. Anyway, anyone knows what is the genre of the ending music? I am love with it. It's progressive rock. |
| next week is the real shiz XD |
| Oh the clash between fanboy and haters. Classic. Guys, let's not bring this shit to JoJo's discussions. It's already bad that most shounen anime/manga threads are like this and most of the time we just can't have a nice discussion about the series, even if it's to criticize, because it's lame how people treat those who disagree/criticize in those threads. If the guy doesn't like it, let him. If he wort things while being misinformed, correct that, but don't make it personal. You don't need to change his mind, just show other readers where he was mistaken. Also, guy that doesn't like it, you should spend your time watching what you like instead of arguing over and over with people about a series you don't like. Also, non-Duwang subs fucking where? |
m4rc0 said: Also, non-Duwang subs fucking where? What do you mean? Why whould anyone want something other than Duwang? I mean.. Nutbladder seem to be the only one to have released the episode up until now. Kinda sad that Duwang is doing faster than gg or Commie. |
| Damn this is so cool. Can't wait for next week. Vampire Dio! |
| Did they show spoilers in the opening? |
| I liked the opening! Now we know what this mask is capable of. Will Dio use it on himself , or will he try to make an army of vampires or something like that ? Really interesting show! |
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Dizzee said: Did they show spoilers in the opening? There are some, but only to the next episode, like |
[/img]| Hmm I just watched bakuman 3 episode 2, they pretty much explain stuff about the art styles, I mean when you change the art styles, you obviously target different audiences. That's what happened inside Japanese and the manga/anime industry, it is true to some extend, I felt like the art became more mature and realistic later on in Jojo, I guess that's why the author want to change it into seinen. One of the reason for that is the popularity poll. So instead of changing the art into more shounen-ish, he changed the demographic to be published as seinen. wonder how many of you here have read Bakuman manga or watch its anime though. U guys should really see it cause it gives you some in sight about the manga/ani industry. So I guess my assumption was somehow correct to some extend xD. It is the art styles that makes JoJo this special, so I guess the author wants to keep it. And, based on most of the shounen manga I've read now, it seems like you can't find any shounen manga which has the same art style as Jojo, so I doubt it would get most of the kids, teenager votes. It's a wise choice to turn into a seinen and published in monthly seinen magazine. And based on most of the popular shounen anime adaptation, Jojo doesn't have any love although it is interesting. OP, Naruto, Bleach, FMAB, fairy tales, etc and a lot of shounen show has tvs anime products due to its popularity (Jojo 2ova lol). It is still industry, they want to make profit, and they won't invest in unpopular products, I doubt this one will sell more than Kuroko no Basuke. Well it's a shame cause I really like the show. |
HibiChouchouOct 14, 2012 7:33 AM
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