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aeroNov 17, 2008 4:00 PM
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| nice episode finally we are understanding something |
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| Kuon looks like he's gonna be a bit on the annoying side. And lol at Kuro being called a 'stranger.' |
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| downloading subs, so far im loving this anime |
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| the guy with the "machine gun arm" is pretty athletic even though he is so fat, lol great episode. |
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| still confused, but o well still like it |
| It doesn't think, it doesn't feel, it doesn't laugh or cry..... All it does from dusk till dawn is make the soldiers die. |
| Yes it's not yet making sense, but damn it's good ! |
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| The whole "non chronological storytelling" is neat and all, but it's been somewhat overdone. I liked it in Slaughterhouse Five; it's lost some of its charm by this point. I'm also worried that there won't be an adequate explanation for why Kuro trips through time like this. Battles are fun as usual. Rave-mode is unique, if nothing else. It's nice that they haven't spent an episode explaining Kuro's abilities. I hate it when series do that. It's a freaking vampire, we get the picture. :-P |
| An explanation that doesn't make sense. |
 "A Legend is but a tale of a beautiful lie." |
| It's okay in its own right, but I re-read the Manga last night. The anime is deviating enough that I think I'm going to drop the series. ._. As for the Chronological storytelling, the Manga does it too. :P |
naikou said: The whole "non chronological storytelling" is neat and all, but it's been somewhat overdone. I liked it in Slaughterhouse Five; it's lost some of its charm by this point. Agreed. Thus far, I've enjoyed it, but it's headed towards over-kill. |
| Very good episode. I'm starting to undestand the timeline and what happened before what, so it's finally making sense. Great animation, soundtrack and story thusfar! I'm really enjoying it ^^ |
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| I really like this show. Especially the storytelling and the confusion, the soundtrack, the atmosphere, the voices, and the constant change of scene. The fact that the manga is finished is also reassuring. naikou said: I, for one, think chronological storytelling has been somewhat overdone. :)The whole "non chronological storytelling" is neat and all, but it's been somewhat overdone. I liked it in Slaughterhouse Five; it's lost some of its charm by this point. |
| RE: Chronology I don't know how accurate this is (based on the manga, which I have not read), but my impression -- largely formed after viewing this episode -- is that disordered chronology is being used here to reflect the disordered sense of experience that Kuro has. He's been alive for so long that his mind is having trouble sorting out what is/was real, memory, or imagination. (This may be compounded with periodic blanking out due to unconsciousness or "death" resulting from severe mutilation, manglement, etc.) Hence, in this episode, we get the dialogue after his dream, questioning (at least for that scene) whether it was just a dream or if it was memory. There are a couple other cues, ranging from snatches of dialogue to his deportment when encountering things the audience might have assumed were new to him, through the past few episodes that could be interpreted in this way. |
chicanerousNov 5, 2008 3:42 PM
| wow this episode explained a lot. Thank god they had that flash back or else I'd still be lost in the dark XD. |
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| omigawdz, they transported d.gray-man's Earl to here. LOL |
| damn this anime kicks a lot of ass... loved the slow motion matrix fight with the fat guy... the flashbacks really helped out a lot... can't wait for more |
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| Hmmm this episode is quite self-explanatory, and still has this great atmosphere that defines Kurozuka. Can't wait to watch the rest ! |
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| slightly less confusing than the manga. I think I'll drop the manga and watch this instead... |
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| That slo-mo fight scene made my brain feel nice. ˆ-ˆ Sakujo said: I, for one, think chronological storytelling has been somewhat overdone. :) Indeed. |
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| I thought I was the only one who didn't understand what was going on, lol, but apparently I'm not alone. phew... But nevertheless, I love it, the art and animation are awesome and rave-party kind of fights are coool. |
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| Interesting episode. But I'd like to see more of Kuro and Kuromitsu in the 1940's. |
| Good episode. I am little confusing at the start, but I am glad this episode for the flashbacks explained a lot. I loved that scene where the slow motion matrix fights with the fat person. Looking forward to more. |
| I swear the main character does his random scream at least twice, every episode. I don't know if it's just me but I've noticed the character art style is a bit similar to Claymore's. |
| Am I the only one who feels the episodes are too short? They are always over way too fast. Great episode and we seem to be approaching the main story. I would've liked to see more of Kuro and Kuromitsu in the past, in fact I wouldn't mind a slice of life show about the two of them :) |
Orange-kun said: I swear the main character does his random scream at least twice, every episode. This might be a bad thing if Mamoru wasn't voicing him. |
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| Ok soooo this seems like a Japanese samurai version of the matrix to me atm and the girl they want to take Kuro to see must be some equivalent to the oracle or something.... Very interesting so far though. Also I lol'd at the millennium earl at the start, he even had the same voice. :x |
| So far so good great. |
| ugh it keeps jumping from present to past getting annoying |
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Setsia said: Actually, I think that's what makes it interesting.ugh it keeps jumping from present to past getting annoying Orange-kun said: That scream does get annoying. -.-;I swear the main character does his random scream at least twice, every episode |
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| Matrix Matrix .... Love it Love it :-D I hope there'll be more of Kuro and Kuromitsu ... there're amazing together. |
| So...okay...looks like Kuro didn't sleep THAT long as we thought. This felt very short :/ |
| They sure love to make a lot of SPLATS in this show. |
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| Kuromitsu :'( |
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| Wow they got me again. I was completely confused at the beginning and then I realized they were just explaining the flashback from the previous episode. *facepalm |
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| How the hell does Rai still look the same after 20 years, same with that friend of hers. Maybe the group itself is a vampire group, or at least some of them? Anyhow, at least we get some insight into Kurou going through time, seems whenever he "dies" he will come back at a later time. |
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Orochimaru9 said: They sure love to make a lot of SPLATS in this show. LOL.......agree 100% with that thought. Another very nice episode. Not having any problems with the time lines...it just keeps me thinking and anticipating. |
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chicanerous said: RE: Chronology I don't know how accurate this is (based on the manga, which I have not read), but my impression -- largely formed after viewing this episode -- is that disordered chronology is being used here to reflect the disordered sense of experience that Kuro has. He's been alive for so long that his mind is having trouble sorting out what is/was real, memory, or imagination. (This may be compounded with periodic blanking out due to unconsciousness or "death" resulting from severe mutilation, manglement, etc.) Hence, in this episode, we get the dialogue after his dream, questioning (at least for that scene) whether it was just a dream or if it was memory. There are a couple other cues, ranging from snatches of dialogue to his deportment when encountering things the audience might have assumed were new to him, through the past few episodes that could be interpreted in this way. Great post, I was planning to say more or less the same thing. Honestly if I didn't take a class that included an intro to film, then I would probably be saying the same thing as a lot of people here did; that the non-chronological order is not fun to watch. After this episode, there's evidence that this was done for to convey a particular point to the audience about Kurou's experience. We are just as confused about the timeline as Kurou as, not knowing what is currently going on in the world. Kuromitsu has been with Kurou this whole time, so every time he wakes up disoriented, she can fill in things for him. I think this is kind of a sad way to live though. I also wonder how come only Kurou has this problem. This episode contained a lot of answers to my questions from the last episode, mostly regarding the Red Army's intentions. Although they said the Red Army was kidnapping people to experiment on them, they also plainly killed them. Or maybe they took the bodies, I don't know. Either way, they're up to no good. I'm guessing they have weird experimental technology that made that weird monster we saw last episode, is that one of the "fiends" they are planning to make? Also, poor Mamo, having to scream so much in this series. |
| Not the best example of non-chronological storytelling I've seen to be honest. |
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| I kind of figured they were using her blood for something. Catch and release policy. |
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