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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Pretty long, almost 30 mins. First minutes is about the Class Skills. Secondary knowledge but nice to be refreshed once again. The 3 Knight Classes are the ones that matter though. Lancelot in his original look. Nice. Okiayu Ryotaro spoke a lot here. He's making up for it I guess, he just screamed and grunted in the main series, with a few lines at the very end of the show. And wow, pretty much most if not all the development about Lancelot and Saber's conflict was in here. The ones that were missing in the anime. It's a nice treat. Second half got serious a bit quick. Since when did this have a plot? It was okay though. Iri still can't escape her demise. Such is the fate of the Einzbern women. Good thing it was put to an end in F/SN. Still... Iri ;_; The passing of the torch, or in this case, the dojo sign. Only those who played the VN would really appreciate this whole BD specials more than anime-only viewers. I sure did. Good run overall. |
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| So... the woman Lancelot loved in the past was not King Arthur's wife but actually Saber? |
| Affinity to MAL Anime: 47.35% Manga: 46.36% |
| The first half was so funny and silly, but the second half was so serious and sad ;_; Poor Iri, and who would have thought Ze-chan is actually Taiga herself? I totally lol'd when Ze-chan mentioned Kajiura music, though. |
 Thanks, person who gave me this on another site a long time ago, lol. |
| Emiya took a liking to Taiga because she reminded of Shirley. And young Taiga sure looks cute :) |
10ZHAbin said: So... the woman Lancelot loved in the past was not King Arthur's wife but actually Saber? its actually king arthur's wife Guinevere(therefore saber is a lesbian ^^).. in real history king arthur is a male. wanna watch king arthur T_T |
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| I learned so much from this series. Last episode was too long though Tiger/Zero out of 10. |
| My Guitar Covers: Playlist I CAN ALWAYS SHOW MY EVERYTHING TO YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOUUUU |
| Great Ending, one of the best specials I've watched. Btw, where are those Saber x Guinevere doujinshi? There ought to be some of them. |
| Even a special has the typical Type-Moon bittersweet ending. |
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| > Taiga knew all along about, well, everything. NASUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU! |
| Maximum trolling! :D I liked this episode a lot. Seeing Lance's backstory and shedding some light on his relationship with Saber was very nice, but the best part, definitely, was about Matou Kariya. I almost chocked laughing - that music! |
| Things took a serious turn at the end there... Although with how much these extras break the 4th wall by having shout-outs to the voice actors, I'm amazed at how nicely it fits into the story and fills a few plot-holes. The only thing I didn't get was why Sakura's dark side made an appearance sucking in Assassin in a previous extra episode. |
4kicks said: The only thing I didn't get was why Sakura's dark side made an appearance sucking in Assassin in a previous extra episode. That's not sakura dark side, that's Iri who have corrupted Holy Grail inside her body. if in FSN that's Sakura in this case is Iri ^^ and now we know why taiga have a dojo and take Ilya as his student :D |
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| So... how much in the future was Zecchan from? |
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| Just watched all the specials from the Fate\Zero Blu rays, and it's easily one of the best specials I have seen. Great to see some servants like Lancer, Caster, Assassin and Berserker to scream their chest out in these specials and it was quite fun. Caster with normal eyes does look less creepier, Berserk finally get to have a decent dialogue without having to Roar or grunt every 5 seconds, Lancer finally understand what the wrong he did and Assassin...well. I was kinda curious to know what Zecchan's true identity was, but the end pretty much told itself, and this is how Taiga's tiger dojo starts alongside Ilyasviel, Irisviel's daughter, which of course she told Zecchan to take care of her. Then I immediately understood who it might be, and at the end we see a glimp of a dojo, and for those who have played the FSN Visual Novel will recognize that immediately. xD Fun watch, great to see Irisviel to our content and was worthy of Fate\Zero. |
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| Long episode, what a surprise at the end. Zecchan = Tiger! \o/ |
| "A pairing as happy as them has been very rare in the four Grail Wars so far." If you count 'happy' as one of them being dead. XD; 'Fanbooks of them will be sexy." xDDD I wonder how many doujinshi there are, anyway? I've only seen fanart. Lol, strip each other, what, Iri... Poor Berserker...and Kariya. ^^; Aw, was Lancelot in love with his 'King'? I wonder what Gwen was like? *whispers* Iri is ドS. |
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Chouninatte said: No,Lancelot was in love with Guinevere/Gwen"A pairing as happy as them has been very rare in the four Grail Wars so far." If you count 'happy' as one of them being dead. XD; 'Fanbooks of them will be sexy." xDDD I wonder how many doujinshi there are, anyway? I've only seen fanart. Lol, strip each other, what, Iri... Poor Berserker...and Kariya. ^^; Aw, was Lancelot in love with his 'King'? I wonder what Gwen was like? *whispers* Iri is ドS. |
| Irisviel: "You've simply forgotten that you are already dead." Zecchan: "You wa shock nano desu!" |
| This was really enjoyable. More info for the series and fanservice at its best. I had a feeling it was Taiga. The shot of the dojo at the end was great. |
| -Nothing can stay unchanged. Even so, can you still keep on loving this place? -Be still my soul; when change and tears are past, all safe and blessed we shall meet at last. |
| Best specials I ever watched! Seriously, if all specials were so good as this, more people would buy the DVD/blu rays 4 sure!! |
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| did not expect such a twist, and Zecchan is Tiger-sensei |
| Wow, this unexpectedly became one of the best specials out there! Only someone who has played the VN can truly appreciate this. So then Saber is Bisexual??? Finally shed some light on Lancelot and Iri... :( Loved it, due to nostalgic reasons I feel like giving this a 8/10 :') |
| Better than actual ending. Taiga for the win! Aozure said: So then Saber is Bisexual??? I would say it was different kind of love. That's also one of the reasons why Guinevere cheated her with Lancelot. |
Mich666Sep 16, 2014 6:23 PM
| More people need to watch this. Seriously. |
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Xawddre said: 1. who was that figure that Zecchan keeps having nightmares of and was saved at the end? But you'll learn more about him once the Heaven's Feel movie comes out. As for the people saying Saber was a lesbian, it's like the above post points out: it was a different kind of love. The marriage was to continue the image of Saber being a man, so there likely wasn't any "interaction" in the way people seem to be thinking. |
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| I'm surprised by the end ! She was Tiger, nice ending. It's sad to Iri but it is her fate. Wonderful OVAs, I really appreciated these. |
| Is this supposed to lead somewhere? EDIT: OMG that was Taiga! XD |
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| pretty awesome. quite a bit of additional info and explanations in these specials, expanded berserker back story and its own story aswell. also  |
xSanox said: pretty awesome. quite a bit of additional info and explanations in these specials, expanded berserker back story and its own story aswell. also ahh... didn't even catch that, that explains student No.0 agree that this is one of the best special/commentary episodes out there shed a few manly tears at the end... guess i like F/Z and Iri too much Kajiura/10 |
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So, after my first re-watch I finally got all the references to FSN VN with Taiga! Awww, they took Iri away... AGAIN! T_T There's this thing I still do not understand...why does Iri say that the love of her life betrayed her? =/ I don't understand that! Kerry would never betray her... in fact, he wanted to retreat from the war just to stay with her and Illya... Anyway, Taiga's end looked so touching (but in reality is silly xD). I'm glad that I understand know even when I've never used the Taiga Dojo en FSN VN. Is the Einzbern Dojo sign there? I mean, for real?? =O I hate how I now have more questions than the first time I watched it! (My first time was after F/Z and I have not watched any FSN or played the VN, and I'm currently playing UBW, HF is pending) And guys, no... Saber is not a lesbian... get your horny assess under control (jajaja I can't believe I said that) |
HumbertoZeroMay 11, 2016 4:17 PM
| Holy shit, she was Fuji-nee all along! |
| Was not.. prepared.. for the feels :') Heh, I liked this as much as F/Z. I think Nasuverse is at its best when it doesn't take itself too seriously. |
| The origin of Taiga dojo... I almost feel like replaying them all again. |
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| Damn, not even in the Specials, Iri can be completely happy :/ Anyway, these Special were great. I really liked every one of them. They were both informative and funny at the same time so in that way, the explanations wouldn't feel too overwhelming. And since I love Taiga, it was all a plus. Also not to mention that since I'm rewatching this and playing the VN at the current time, I can really appreciate the connection they made with Taiga, the dojo and Illya becoming Student N°1 :D Overall, great Specials. 7/10 P.S.: That bulling on Kariya tho... poor man. |
| Wonder why Saber didn't come here, she's one of the servant in the F0 that are potrayed to had many troubles and regrets. Pretty much a nice piece of puzzle to fit after watching F0. |
| He who smiles in a crisis has found someone to blame. |
Kish0 said: Wonder why Saber didn't come here, she's one of the servant in the F0 that are potrayed to had many troubles and regrets. iri said that this is the inside of the grail, and since berserker just arrived here, this episode takes place after his defeat by saber saber was never absorbed by the grail, that's why she doesn't appear |
Shayon said: Kish0 said: Wonder why Saber didn't come here, she's one of the servant in the F0 that are potrayed to had many troubles and regrets. iri said that this is the inside of the grail, and since berserker just arrived here, this episode takes place after his defeat by saber saber was never absorbed by the grail, that's why she doesn't appear I see, but Saber disappear after destroying the grail, why is that? |
| He who smiles in a crisis has found someone to blame. |
Kish0 said: Shayon said: iri said that this is the inside of the grail, and since berserker just arrived here, this episode takes place after his defeat by saber saber was never absorbed by the grail, that's why she doesn't appear I see, but Saber disappear after destroying the grail, why is that? during the grail war, both the grail and the master and are what keep a servant materialized in this world. with the grail destroyed, that's one less thing keeping Saber around also, Saber wasn't exactly in top condition after fighting Berserker and Gil back to back, and being forced to use her noble phantasm on top of that, she didn't have enough magical energy to maintain herself any longer after the grail's destruction, and her master had also used up magical energy fighting Kirei it's possible for a master to maintain a servant after the war, but the amount of magical energy required is normally beyond the capabilities of one mage, so they need a method to obtain magical energy from somewhere else |
Shayon said: during the grail war, both the grail and the master and are what keep a servant materialized in this world. with the grail destroyed, that's one less thing keeping Saber around also, Saber wasn't exactly in top condition after fighting Berserker and Gil back to back, and being forced to use her noble phantasm on top of that, she didn't have enough magical energy to maintain herself any longer after the grail's destruction, and her master had also used up magical energy fighting Kirei it's possible for a master to maintain a servant after the war, but the amount of magical energy required is normally beyond the capabilities of one mage, so they need a method to obtain magical energy from somewhere else So,Servants only get absored into the grail when they're defeated in battle ? |
| He who smiles in a crisis has found someone to blame. |
Kish0 said: Shayon said: during the grail war, both the grail and the master and are what keep a servant materialized in this world. with the grail destroyed, that's one less thing keeping Saber around also, Saber wasn't exactly in top condition after fighting Berserker and Gil back to back, and being forced to use her noble phantasm on top of that, she didn't have enough magical energy to maintain herself any longer after the grail's destruction, and her master had also used up magical energy fighting Kirei it's possible for a master to maintain a servant after the war, but the amount of magical energy required is normally beyond the capabilities of one mage, so they need a method to obtain magical energy from somewhere else So,Servants only get absored into the grail when they're defeated in battle ? yes, any servants that die during the war turn into energy inside the grail. but the grail doesn't hold them forever, their spiritual cores will eventually be released and return to where they originally came from, the throne of heroes the Throne of Heroes exists outside the world and outside of time, and it's where the Heroic Spirits are summoned from during a grail war, a copy of a Heroic Spirit is created and gets summoned as a servant, with one of the 7 classes being a vessel to contain it's power |
Shayon said: yes, any servants that die during the war turn into energy inside the grail. but the grail doesn't hold them forever, their spiritual cores will eventually be released and return to where they originally came from, the throne of heroes the Throne of Heroes exists outside the world and outside of time, and it's where the Heroic Spirits are summoned from during a grail war, a copy of a Heroic Spirit is created and gets summoned as a servant, with one of the 7 classes being a vessel to contain it's power The Throne of Heroes,huh? Irisviel seems need to learn more. Thx by the way. |
| He who smiles in a crisis has found someone to blame. |
| This sure got darker in the later half, wasn't expecting feels ._. Gonna miss that lovey-dovey Iri and Ze chan. |
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| Well, now we know the backstory of the ultimate "Tiger dojo". Also, the thing is that Taiga was originally "studying" under Irisviels fon Ainsbern, but later in F/SN we see Illya, her daughter, studying under Taiga... Damn man, those feels... |
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| One of the best specials I've ever seen. Was not expecting things to turn serious in the second half, but it was actually quite sad. More so because I love Irisviel so much ;_; I've become even more confused. I thought the Irisviel that Kiritsugu met in either the last or second last episode was not Irisviel, but a mere image of her created by the Grail (Angra Manyu or something). But it seems here she says that her lover, who I assume is Kiritsugu, betrayed her? But by the end of it, she seems to have come to terms with it. As someone who hasn't watched the Saber or Rin routes and only watched the trilogy of Sakura's route, I didn't really know who Taiga was since she wasn't that covered in the trilogy. So with the knowledge of this special, I hope I'll get a better understanding of Taiga as I watch the other series. But again, that was quite sad... |
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