Dog Days' Episode 12 Discussion

Sep 25, 2012 12:47 AM

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KuroNoKenshi said:

Magito said:

wakka9ca said:

KuroNoKenshi said:

HauntingShock said:

KuroNoKenshi said:

HauntingShock said:

KuroNoKenshi said:

Onyxthegreat said:
Ooh la la, grownup Rebecca looked stunning!

I saw these kind of comment a lot but ... Rebecca didn't grow up.

The reason why Cinque and Gaul grow up when they use their crystal is because said crystals kind of absorbed the ability to grow up from the monster that transformed most of the female cast into children.
It's not a property inherent to the crystal, it's something they got by chance. That does not apply to Rebbeca's crystal.

The only difference between normal Rebecca and post-transformation Rebecca is the star in her eyes and that she had her hair down compared to her twintail.
Same height compared to Cinque, no noticeable change in her three size, no sign that she actually did grow up (Especially since they would have outdone themselve if they planned to make a grown up version of her, especially with that first transformation scene).

Have you read the LN? or it's your theory?

I didn't read the novel but it's kind of obvious actually.

Rebbeca had no change to her physical apparence except the star in her eyes, none at all.
She wasn't taller, she didn't look older, she only had her hair down. While having hair down can easely make a character look a bit more mature, she didn't age in the process, she only got a shitload of a powerup.
The same apply for Adélaïde, Valério and probably all hero crystal users, there's no point in the crystal making it's host older, they only are suposed to grant them strenght and protection.

About Cinque's and Gaul's crystal, I don't remember it being explicitely said but it was kind of implied at one point. Actually if you think about it, they are the only ones that have the ability to grow up and they are the only one that have been accepted by their crystals while being exposed to a monster that can modify a person's age and I don't see that as being unrelated.

Also this show missing one of the greatest chance at fan service they had? No way.

At first, I thought so too...but I noticed she was slightly taller than she were before...
Maybe it's because most women gain only little height once they age?

She didn't get taller though. She was at the exact same height as she was at the moment Cinque and Rebecca warped up in the room.
Now if that height proportion is off, I can't argue about that but she didn't get any taller after using the stone.

Nope. She did age. Her facial structure are more adult-like. Her voice also matured. It's just that her height didn't change much.

Even her hair is longer than before, slightly taller, a bit larger body and better figure. I looked back at some episodes for comparisons sake.

Why looking at previous episodes when you can just compate before and after the "transformation"?
Character's proportion may look slightly different from one episode to another, that happen in a lot of anime.
I won't go as far as to say that comparing it to another episode it worthless but when you see that there's no change in the actual scene, going to compare to previous episode will not be helpfull.

Pre transformation: http://nsa30.casimages.com/img/2012/09/25/120925054141918775.jpg

Post transformation: http://nsa29.casimages.com/img/2012/09/25/120925054215728006.jpg

I agree that the scene in general gave an impression of Rebacca looking slightly more mature than in the previous episodes but that impression was the same before she even transformed, hence it's not related to the transformation.
Different clothes + long hair + star eyes + in a darker scene = What you call looking more mature.

You captured the wrong scene here. Take the scene after she launches the spiked ceiling into the stratosphere.

When she lands in front of Cinque, we see her transformed state – slightly taller, with her hair now down (and probably a bit longer as well), a slight (barely noticeable) increase in chest size, lipgloss and stars in her eyes And before that, we hear that her voice is deeper. If that's not an age upgrade, what is it?

Also, notice Cinque's reaction. He seemed to be quite smitten by what he saw. Assuming he's seen her with her hair down before, that can't be what made him stare at her like that.

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Sep 25, 2012 3:14 AM

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Becky look awesome with the star pupil. But did she really became an adult? Cause right after when she went to console Couvre, she looks like she was normal again.

Millhi's concert was truly beautiful beyond words, i cried.

Also when are we getting the story of the Demon King and Adele? Been waiting!

Sep 25, 2012 8:02 AM

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Oh well let's stop it at that. I don't see any difference and I beleive that she didn't grew older but it looks like nobody is going to move from his position.

Sep 25, 2012 8:03 AM

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Great episode, so this isn't the final episode after all. Next episode will probably be talk, goodbye, recap, etc.

ArcanaTrace said:
Millhi's concert was truly beautiful beyond words, i cried.

I will never understand something like that, but it was a beautiful. :)

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Sep 25, 2012 7:28 PM

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AO968 said:

KuroNoKenshi said:

Magito said:

wakka9ca said:

KuroNoKenshi said:

HauntingShock said:

KuroNoKenshi said:

HauntingShock said:

KuroNoKenshi said:

Onyxthegreat said:
Ooh la la, grownup Rebecca looked stunning!

I saw these kind of comment a lot but ... Rebecca didn't grow up.

The reason why Cinque and Gaul grow up when they use their crystal is because said crystals kind of absorbed the ability to grow up from the monster that transformed most of the female cast into children.
It's not a property inherent to the crystal, it's something they got by chance. That does not apply to Rebbeca's crystal.

The only difference between normal Rebecca and post-transformation Rebecca is the star in her eyes and that she had her hair down compared to her twintail.
Same height compared to Cinque, no noticeable change in her three size, no sign that she actually did grow up (Especially since they would have outdone themselve if they planned to make a grown up version of her, especially with that first transformation scene).

Have you read the LN? or it's your theory?

I didn't read the novel but it's kind of obvious actually.

Rebbeca had no change to her physical apparence except the star in her eyes, none at all.
She wasn't taller, she didn't look older, she only had her hair down. While having hair down can easely make a character look a bit more mature, she didn't age in the process, she only got a shitload of a powerup.
The same apply for Adélaïde, Valério and probably all hero crystal users, there's no point in the crystal making it's host older, they only are suposed to grant them strenght and protection.

About Cinque's and Gaul's crystal, I don't remember it being explicitely said but it was kind of implied at one point. Actually if you think about it, they are the only ones that have the ability to grow up and they are the only one that have been accepted by their crystals while being exposed to a monster that can modify a person's age and I don't see that as being unrelated.

Also this show missing one of the greatest chance at fan service they had? No way.

At first, I thought so too...but I noticed she was slightly taller than she were before...
Maybe it's because most women gain only little height once they age?

She didn't get taller though. She was at the exact same height as she was at the moment Cinque and Rebecca warped up in the room.
Now if that height proportion is off, I can't argue about that but she didn't get any taller after using the stone.

Nope. She did age. Her facial structure are more adult-like. Her voice also matured. It's just that her height didn't change much.

Even her hair is longer than before, slightly taller, a bit larger body and better figure. I looked back at some episodes for comparisons sake.

Why looking at previous episodes when you can just compate before and after the "transformation"?
Character's proportion may look slightly different from one episode to another, that happen in a lot of anime.
I won't go as far as to say that comparing it to another episode it worthless but when you see that there's no change in the actual scene, going to compare to previous episode will not be helpfull.

Pre transformation: http://nsa30.casimages.com/img/2012/09/25/120925054141918775.jpg

Post transformation: http://nsa29.casimages.com/img/2012/09/25/120925054215728006.jpg

I agree that the scene in general gave an impression of Rebacca looking slightly more mature than in the previous episodes but that impression was the same before she even transformed, hence it's not related to the transformation.
Different clothes + long hair + star eyes + in a darker scene = What you call looking more mature.

You captured the wrong scene here. Take the scene after she launches the spiked ceiling into the stratosphere.

When she lands in front of Cinque, we see her transformed state – slightly taller, with her hair now down (and probably a bit longer as well), a slight (barely noticeable) increase in chest size, lipgloss and stars in her eyes And before that, we hear that her voice is deeper. If that's not an age upgrade, what is it?

Also, notice Cinque's reaction. He seemed to be quite smitten by what he saw. Assuming he's seen her with her hair down before, that can't be what made him stare at her like that.

I for one agree with you reply but I did not see the chest being bigger at all really. It certainly was tamed out and shown well. The rest seems to be right however I did not see any voice change.

As far height, not sure how to compare it but it was badly shown. So IMO if there is any logical explanation is Rebecca's youth is exchanged for immense power due to the crystal?

Also I have a bad feeling the crystal might be a premise for Rebecca to turn evil some time in the future. Not sure but if the Demon King was before getting tamed then maybe Rebecca might but I am not sure of that theory. It could be foreshadow as the other crystals seem to be light in nature.

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Sep 26, 2012 3:43 PM

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Avenir said:
I second Yumekichi's Theory. Since the beginning of this season, Rebecca seems a lot stronger than Nanami or Cinque, and this episode prove that in her fullpower mode she's at an insane level. I didn't remember of an attack this powerful in Dog Days. And her eyes, she's a true Hero of pastillage. She may be the next Hero King.

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Sep 27, 2012 8:39 AM

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The 3 lolis (Cou, Rico, Noir) went on an underground adventure with the usual traps in a dungeon esp the stone boulder haha

Nice to see Becky using the Demon King Crystal to transform. Loved her starry eyes which were the same as Adelaide.

It's the last day of the Union Fest T_T
But, Millhi's concert was quite nice and the fireworks were a nice touch.

Next ep will be the last! The 3 heroes are going back to the human world soon... Wonder how it'll end this time.

I mainly see the animes... so don't blame me for not knowing about the Manga/LN

Sep 27, 2012 10:30 PM

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Yay, Rebecca's Touhou references continue! :D

Sep 28, 2012 9:01 AM

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I soooo want a third season. I please, kamisama! Make it come true! XD

Becky is one heck of a beauty.

Sep 30, 2012 6:15 AM

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greenmush said:
Becky doesnt seem older to me lol.

Yeah, Becky didn't really seem older to me as well, but damn was she pretty!

Oct 1, 2012 12:12 PM

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Bravo!

Oct 6, 2012 8:12 PM

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Becky takes the spotlight in this episode. Not going to be outdone by Shinku and his older manly new form, she gets her own older, womanly new form from the Demon Crystal, complete with stars in her eyes. This makes me wonder, did Val and Adele use such crystals at some point in their lives? A Hero crystal for Val, and a Demon crystal for Adele.

Adele did say something about not being able to return to Earth for a while, so this confirms that she's also a human from the human world, I guess. Does that mean they'll get to visit Earth, too? Or perhaps leave that to a third season.

The episode ends with one of the Princess's famous concerts. Yui Horie has such a nice voice. On to the last episode of the season!

Miracles and magic do exist. I have no regrets.

Oct 8, 2012 8:55 AM

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Nice episode,one more to go.

Oct 21, 2012 10:55 AM

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All this talk about saying goodbyes remind me that there is only one episode left, I wish they wouldn't remind me so harshly. Other than that, it was a nice episode with focus on girls I like. 4/5.

Nov 12, 2012 1:22 PM

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KuroNoKenshi said:
Oh well let's stop it at that. I don't see any difference and I beleive that she didn't grew older but it looks like nobody is going to move from his position.

I'm gonna go with you on this one. I really didn't see much difference in her age.

Nov 27, 2012 5:23 AM

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One of the better episodes of this season.

On with the final episode.

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Jun 28, 2013 2:56 PM

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Its to peacefull they need some real vilan its getting a little boring but its still great and they need to have an enemy country so they will really have a real war

Sep 20, 2014 9:57 AM

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I like how they mentioned the last return ceremony, and it looks like they are still quite nervous for it even though they now know that the heroes can return.
I LOVED that they just KNEW it was going to be a boulder trap ahaha and wooooo more adult Sinku! and even some adult becky!
This show just makes me all warm and fuzzy inside. i love it.

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Oct 22, 2017 9:18 AM

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Most of the time we followed three to me rather not very interesting characters, so not my favourite episode.

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