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Sep 22, 2012 9:04 AM

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Richard_Omega said:
tokumei-ko said:

Akutsuki is Gary Stu(and you know this)...only kids under 10 like Gary Stu's


*sigh*

i don't really see that as a con. compared to a lot of shit out there who overuses the style of "wimpy fuck who suddenly gains power to prove his worth".
and yes, i'm talking about accel world, and i might not even say guilty crown, cause there was some sort of actual plot there.


akatsuki's overpowerdness has a reason. yet to be revealed completely, but slightly shown already. there is more to him than just him being a gary stu. and that's what makes him likeable. also, generalizations about kids that are about 10 years old are the only ones that like that type of character is just as good as saying how pre pubescent girls are the only ones that like mahou shoujos. and we know we all loved nanoha and madoka.

as for an s2. greatly welcome. estetica isn't really cut out to be 12 episodes anyways. the story can dig far deeper.

^this
Sep 22, 2012 9:42 AM

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I can't wait to see how the queen reacts to Akatsuki's return. I hope a season 2 comes soon
Sep 22, 2012 10:04 AM
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too many loose ends. i'm hoping for a second season.
Sep 22, 2012 10:16 AM

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ending makes it look like a season 2 is possible..
Sep 22, 2012 10:23 AM

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i dont care what you ppl say...i want a season 2
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Sep 22, 2012 11:49 AM

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I would like a second season to know what happens next I hate unfinished stories, but I am patient enough to wait until B-T translates the novel if it doesn't happen.
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you give this shit a season 2 but not campione? outrageous.
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Richard_Omega said:
tokumei-ko said:

Akutsuki is Gary Stu(and you know this)...only kids under 10 like Gary Stu's


*sigh*

i don't really see that as a con. compared to a lot of shit out there who overuses the style of "wimpy fuck who suddenly gains power to prove his worth".
and yes, i'm talking about accel world, and i might not even say guilty crown, cause there was some sort of actual plot there.

akatsuki's overpowerdness has a reason. yet to be revealed completely, but slightly shown already. there is more to him than just him being a gary stu. and that's what makes him likeable. also, generalizations about kids that are about 10 years old are the only ones that like that type of character is just as good as saying how pre pubescent girls are the only ones that like mahou shoujos. and we know we all loved nanoha and madoka.

as for an s2. greatly welcome. estetica isn't really cut out to be 12 episodes anyways. the story can dig far deeper.


Gary Stu/Mary Sue type characters are NEVER a pro. It pretty much means that the writers failed to develop a character into a character.

There's nothing relatable or interesting about the MC of this anime. Why should anyone care about him or what he does? Why should we worry about him succeeding or failing, if he is so good at everything.

The show set off to create a "badass" main character, yet failed to develop him properly. ANd that is never a good thing.

Tenchi_Ryu said:
tokumei-ko said:

Akutsuki is Gary Stu(and you know this)...only kids under 10 like Gary Stu's

Keep enjoying your pussy bitch normal Harem MCs then. If anything, most grown ass men I know LOVED a MC like Akatsuki, who actually has a backbone and just don't give a fuck.


Backbone means nothing if the main character is underdeveloped MR.Perfect, who has no flaws.(well technically he has a flaw - he is a misogynist asshole, but show refuses to acknowledge it).

What makes characters interesting is their flaws. Having someone who has none and succeeds at everything, takes away from any sort of enjoyment the narrative could provide. As it stands now, Akatsuki is just another Kira Yamato.
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Tenchi_Ryu said:
tokumei-ko said:

Keep enjoying your pussy bitch normal Harem MCs then. If anything, most grown ass men I know LOVED a MC like Akatsuki, who actually has a backbone and just don't give a fuck.


This is the truth. Fuck pussy MCs, Akatsuki FTW!!!

Season 2 Cmon!!!
Sep 22, 2012 2:34 PM

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Hope this doesn't turn out like Legend of the legendary heroes.
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"I liked estetica and wish there could be a season 2."

Give the show a better story, and then perhaps.
Sep 22, 2012 2:46 PM

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Some serious haters up in here
Sep 22, 2012 3:11 PM

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it certainly need a second season!
with more echhi :D
i loved it :P
it was really good,and i dont care, what u haters say :PP

but why cant this made - completed - when its finihsed -.-
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Sep 22, 2012 3:44 PM

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Akatsuki was out of the norm, that is why he's popular. The perfection made perfect sense because of WHY he was perfect. There was no struggle because he's already done that. He's already had his downs, already has done the level up. He BEAT the boss, he's beaten the game and returned. He IS one of the super leveled advanced players in RPGS who have max their stats.

I've been watching bitchmade leads for the past 10 years with only a few exceptions, so his Gary Stu was a PERFECT cleanse of the past years.

And for christ sakes, Its just a fictional piece of work, no need to get bent out of shape about how fictional female characters are being treated. IF that was the case, rape themed porn would never exist, its just a fetish out of all the many fetishes in the world. And by the way, WOMEN have ruled the anime world for years now, it always has and always WILL be a female dominant niche, so I have NO problem with a guy actually doing all the badass work for once in this genre.

I never understand how people want to complain and complain, yet kept watching it all the way through. You've done nothing but waste your time, and built up negative towards the series. Its not even that serious, just move on to something more for you.
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This show was so refreshing. Kick ass main character who did whatever the fuk he wanted. Im tired of banging my head against a wall as emo MC's spend a whole episode debating over what they should/shouldnt do. Much funner to just watch Akatsuki do whatever the hell he pleases and kick ass while doing it. But ive read that japanese viewers dont like alpha male leads, so that could be a reason for the show's low ratings
Sep 22, 2012 4:04 PM

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Akatsuki himself is reason make 2nd season and watch it (no homo) Sure he is bit OP compared to others and he acts like total ass sometimes. Akatsuki is just awesome...awesome to the max!
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Akatsuki was unrealistic. There was no back-story to him to tell us why he's so confident and good at whatever he does, therefore all I could do was roll my eyes at how he's so "perfect", and every scene where he was fighting I just laid back in my chair and knew he was going to come out victorious with almost no scratches. Pure boringness.

You have a point about lack of background story, which can be fixed with 2nd season and whole " winning hands down" thing without scratches is pretty boring ,but knowing that MC gonna win... it's almost like a rule in animes like this.
Sep 22, 2012 4:05 PM

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Kick ass MC and finally seeing lots of Queen Listy?? Do want S2
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Hope this doesn't turn out like Legend of the legendary heroes.


This is exactly why I made this thread.. Legend of legendary heroes would be the #1 anime on my list to make a season 2 out of..>.< There are other animes out there that hinted towards second season but never got it too because of viewership? I guess..
Sep 22, 2012 4:23 PM

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Tenchi_Ryu said:


The perfection made perfect sense because of WHY he was perfect. Dude, you sound like my little brother...he's 10. He also likes it when I show him how to cheat in games. Makes him feel BOSS.

As for your post, no need to be butt-hurt, some people watch a series in hopes that the show may get better. Some like myself, are completist and do not like to drop a show midway. Live with the fact that there are people out there who have different opinions to you.

Akutsuki may be OP compared to the rest of them harem male leads you get in other anime, but considering he has showed no character apart from being the guy who solves everything by fondling women's breast and mowing his adversaries like they were yesterdays news without breaking a sweat is kind of bland and poor direction/writing in the authors part.

So you've been watching bitch ass leads for the last 10yrs, congratulations, that makes you 11? I thought by now you'd at least have grown to appreciate good writing and character development.
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tokumei-ko said:

As for your post, no need to be butt-hurt, some people watch a series in hopes that the show may get better. Some like myself, are completist and do not like to drop a show midway. Live with the fact that there are people out there who have different opinions to you.

Should say the same for yourself. I never said anyone couldn't have negative opinions, yet at the same time, no need to put someone down cause THEY liked it. Follow your same advise, and try not insulting people cause they liked something you didn't. Cause I liked a certain aspect you might now, that decides someones age? Wow.

If you don't like a show fine, but no need to hope something doesn't get a sequel cause YOU didn't like it, and that's why I addressed Fai in the first place. Why would you want to rob the fans of a potential sequel if they liked it?
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I feel as if I should point out the character development people are saying is non existent..As to why I can notice this might partially be that I'm aspiring to be a script writer..Though my english grades were nothing more than average.

Akatsuki develops slowly as a character. On the surface he is a young extremely strong male who has a sexsomnia problem, and an over active libido. But what was slowly developed that he has strong sense of justice. Not any justice, but his own justice. He is called the rogue hero not only because of sexual harassment tendencies. But because he does what he thinks is right and does not follow any political gains. He masks his emotions through his jokes, but shows them through his actions. His past is a bit mystified, but he had the option of learning the height of martial arts only by giving up on ever using magic. While now it is still unknown what is stronger magic or martial arts.

Myuu is demon king's daughter, not much is known about her. She is a sheltered girl who has never had any friends and Akatsuki has made it a goal of his to show her the world and give her a normal life of a human girl. She believes she should hold a grudge against Akatsuki for killing her father but she is conflicted because of her feelings for Akatsuki. Since coming to earth she has thrown away her old world and heir to the demon throne, and wishes to continue living like a normal human. She is forced to be scapegoat in the politics of her old world, and is told to give up her life to save her new friends and to save her people from the demon clan.She is torn between giving up her old life and making a brand new one. She has a lot to develop as a character but only because she wasn't much of a character to begin with. Any sheltered princess cannot be much more than a sheltered princess but she is slowly growing and making a new life while accepting her old one.
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tokumei-ko said:
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The perfection made perfect sense because of WHY he was perfect. Dude, you sound like my little brother...he's 10. He also likes it when I show him how to cheat in games. Makes him feel BOSS.

As for your post, no need to be butt-hurt, some people watch a series in hopes that the show may get better. Some like myself, are completist and do not like to drop a show midway. Live with the fact that there are people out there who have different opinions to you.

Akutsuki may be OP compared to the rest of them harem male leads you get in other anime, but considering he has showed no character apart from being the guy who solves everything by fondling women's breast and mowing his adversaries like they were yesterdays news without breaking a sweat is kind of bland and poor direction/writing in the authors part.

So you've been watching bitch ass leads for the last 10yrs, congratulations, that makes you 11? I thought by now you'd at least have grown to appreciate good writing and character development.


i despise people who make assumptions based on nothing but bad thinking. especially coming from someone who thinks she can discriminate based on likes and dislikes.

first of all. you keep referring to this age based personality and thought process. in question of what makes you think like this, i took a visit to your profile. you have not lived long enough to possibly know what adults are like. unless you are a troll. which makes you even worse in a discussion board. in any cases, it's not like 10 year old kids would say that stuff, but it's because you likely were like that, or still are, that you can say this kind of stuff. i know some pretty neat 10 year olders who could probably argue better than you.

second. i don't see any butt-hurt post, not from tenchi anyways. his comment is just as valid as yours. it's a discussion board, you know. press your ideas and support them. and try to prove the other wrong. that's what a discussion should be based about. voice your thoughts. i'm sure he's living with the fact that people have different opinions, maybe he hasn't learned that through the internet, you can't make dumb people change their minds. still doesn't mean he's grinding his face against a wall because of you.

in fact, you're also very wrong here. and it just goes to show how biased you are towards ecchi shows. akatsuki as a male lead, in this season anyways, may have come off as a weak personality. but at no point was it said that all he did was use brute strength. he has intellect, reasoning, and like someone else posted, a sense of justice. if you can't read into it, and keep thinking that a story could really be carried through the use of a bland character, get a reality check. the story isn't suited for you, and if you just completely dislike it, then carry on, and let the people who actually enjoy reading into characters, and try to figure them out do, actually do what they like.

what i'm saying is. you're shallow for thinking that. it matters whether you're the type of person to read between the lines. since that's what some ways of storytelling are. they are not going to give you all of the answers. heck, they might just give you a clusterfuck of ideas. a psycho, or a bland character. doesn't mean that that's all there is to them. the show clearly tried to tell us that. maybe hinting that it all has a direction it's moving in. either way. don't blame the writing or direction if you yourself can't look at it from every angle, or even look for something. once again, reality check. you are not going to get everything served on a plate.

lastly, and it pains me the most, since you are pretty much insulting yourself here. how in all hell can you go from an argument saying that someone's been watching bichty male leads for 10 years possibly make you say that he is 11? if you're going to try to insult someone by faulty changing his age, do it in a clever way. that way, people MIGHT actually think you're on the right. and using your own words, live with the fact that people have different opinions. you are not the judge who decides what's good writing and character development. you might just be shallow enough to not understand it yourself. so i'd say, you should wait and grow up before talking about how someone should act as a grown up. if you don't show some traits, don't go accusing of others of not having them.

*sigh*
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I used to be pretty good at this but I been slipping lately.. anyways tokumi sounds to be around a 18 year old male, while richard is about 20. Could be off by about year depending how close your birthday is/was.

In most if not all of females I met they are all at least a bit flirty in their manner of written speech males are more aggressive. Even the ones pretending to be androgynous. Changes in thought also occur as you get older, the younger you are the more pure/stupid you are, no matter how much you go to 4chan. (I remember/seen pictures I used to be happy and smile a lot when I was 8, didn't hide from camera then either) The older you get after 18 the less you start to care about life in general and less things "offend" you. Anyways it's my gut that tells me my brain just thinks about it after my gut told me.
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Tyrel said:
People dislike like it because.
1. Story ain't that great to begin with. They literally showed a bigger plot at the last 10 mins of episode, wtf?
2. Season 2 may or may not happen. How they did the ending was like opening a season 2.
3. Your common ecchi show.
4. Enemies are pretty straight forward, one being Hikami the student council president as his name is clearly shown in episode 12 speaking about some plot. Probably a few more people, one being Kaitou he has something to do with fighting against Hikami.

Also the T.V quality sucked hard.


You could add "Animation is crappy just like those of a hentai's".


But I actually enjoyed this :D
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Honestly, I think I'll just read the original novels. Eventually. Once I learn Japanese.
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he does care a fair bit actually. He just intentionally pisses the girl off as a way to distract her and provide comedy. Fairly human with some 'archtypical' emotions. I've seen far worse... *cough* ichigo *cough*

As for echi? besides the occasional panty flash and the truly epic sized breasts of the main character. There really wasn't a heck of a lot... Comparatively.

The whole tear mechanic was interesting, as was the focus on chi and pressure points as a fighting style. i'd watch a second or third season, buy it though? It's rewatch value is practically non-existent.

Now something like Hajime no Ippo, or a Ghibli, or FMA, or or or.
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High School DxD is getting a second season and that has a repetitive plot set up at least in this one there is some sort of grander plot. I think that if given a chance of a second season and they actually foucus on plot a little more that the harem factor then this might have a chance to turn sales around..........maybey. I just dont like unfinished stories but I guess ill have to read the ligh novel
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Fai said:
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tokumei-ko said:

Akutsuki is Gary Stu(and you know this)...only kids under 10 like Gary Stu's


*sigh*

i don't really see that as a con. compared to a lot of shit out there who overuses the style of "wimpy fuck who suddenly gains power to prove his worth".
and yes, i'm talking about accel world, and i might not even say guilty crown, cause there was some sort of actual plot there.

akatsuki's overpowerdness has a reason. yet to be revealed completely, but slightly shown already. there is more to him than just him being a gary stu. and that's what makes him likeable. also, generalizations about kids that are about 10 years old are the only ones that like that type of character is just as good as saying how pre pubescent girls are the only ones that like mahou shoujos. and we know we all loved nanoha and madoka.

as for an s2. greatly welcome. estetica isn't really cut out to be 12 episodes anyways. the story can dig far deeper.


Gary Stu/Mary Sue type characters are NEVER a pro. It pretty much means that the writers failed to develop a character into a character.

There's nothing relatable or interesting about the MC of this anime. Why should anyone care about him or what he does? Why should we worry about him succeeding or failing, if he is so good at everything.

The show set off to create a "badass" main character, yet failed to develop him properly. ANd that is never a good thing.

Tenchi_Ryu said:
tokumei-ko said:

Akutsuki is Gary Stu(and you know this)...only kids under 10 like Gary Stu's

Keep enjoying your pussy bitch normal Harem MCs then. If anything, most grown ass men I know LOVED a MC like Akatsuki, who actually has a backbone and just don't give a fuck.


Backbone means nothing if the main character is underdeveloped MR.Perfect, who has no flaws.(well technically he has a flaw - he is a misogynist asshole, but show refuses to acknowledge it).

What makes characters interesting is their flaws. Having someone who has none and succeeds at everything, takes away from any sort of enjoyment the narrative could provide. As it stands now, Akatsuki is just another Kira Yamato.
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Richard_Omega said:
tokumei-ko said:

Akutsuki is Gary Stu(and you know this)...only kids under 10 like Gary Stu's


*sigh*

i don't really see that as a con. compared to a lot of shit out there who overuses the style of "wimpy fuck who suddenly gains power to prove his worth".
and yes, i'm talking about accel world, and i might not even say guilty crown, cause there was some sort of actual plot there.

akatsuki's overpowerdness has a reason. yet to be revealed completely, but slightly shown already. there is more to him than just him being a gary stu. and that's what makes him likeable. also, generalizations about kids that are about 10 years old are the only ones that like that type of character is just as good as saying how pre pubescent girls are the only ones that like mahou shoujos. and we know we all loved nanoha and madoka.

as for an s2. greatly welcome. estetica isn't really cut out to be 12 episodes anyways. the story can dig far deeper.


Gary Stu/Mary Sue type characters are NEVER a pro. It pretty much means that the writers failed to develop a character into a character.

There's nothing relatable or interesting about the MC of this anime. Why should anyone care about him or what he does? Why should we worry about him succeeding or failing, if he is so good at everything.

The show set off to create a "badass" main character, yet failed to develop him properly. ANd that is never a good thing.

Tenchi_Ryu said:
tokumei-ko said:

Akutsuki is Gary Stu(and you know this)...only kids under 10 like Gary Stu's

Keep enjoying your pussy bitch normal Harem MCs then. If anything, most grown ass men I know LOVED a MC like Akatsuki, who actually has a backbone and just don't give a fuck.


Backbone means nothing if the main character is underdeveloped MR.Perfect, who has no flaws.(well technically he has a flaw - he is a misogynist asshole, but show refuses to acknowledge it).

What makes characters interesting is their flaws. Having someone who has none and succeeds at everything, takes away from any sort of enjoyment the narrative could provide. As it stands now, Akatsuki is just another Kira Yamato.

Jeez dude...if u hated this anime so much why make it hard on yourself by watching it to the end....instead you finished the anime and complain about the MC...talk about hate
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And this is why you can't win with fantards...

Tenchi_Ryu said:


You make it sound like I'm the one that attacked you. If you start from page 1 and read my first post, as I mentioned; I said they might not do a season 2 purely on sales alone. I also said I could be wrong....BUT, how many series out there are we still waiting for a season 2 that is purely a cut above this series? I'm pretty sure you can name some. Ahh, let's see: Legend of the Legendary Heroes, Deadman Wonderland, Berserk(although we've only just started to get an OVA recently after how many years), Kenichi, Claymore...list goes on. If you would like me to apologize about calling you 10yr old, consider this post as so, but that doesn't change the fact that you still act like my little brother who jumps around everytime his favorite superhero is on TV. So Akatsuki is OP, I think we got that from the many rave reviews and discussion threads for this series, no need to keep pointing it out.

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Can I yawn now? For a minute there I thought I was back in class and was given a report on how badly I'd done on my thesis to relativity. So tell me, did it feel good? I mean writing all that, because you my friend deserve a prize and guess what it is? You get to replace the director of this series 'coz your half page essay was more exciting than the 20+ minute episode that I sat through of that final episode...and well done Sherlock Holmes, after sleuthing through my profile you found out I was trolling...

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Tenchi_Ryu said:
tokumei-ko said:

Akutsuki is Gary Stu(and you know this)...only kids under 10 like Gary Stu's

Keep enjoying your pussy bitch normal Harem MCs then. If anything, most grown ass men I know LOVED a MC like Akatsuki, who actually has a backbone and just don't give a fuck.

^^ This...

And plot is good considering the genre also all the female characters are likable....

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Onbuu said:

You have a point about lack of background story, which can be fixed with 2nd season and whole " winning hands down" thing without scratches is pretty boring ,but knowing that MC gonna win... it's almost like a rule in animes like this.


What does it tell about the book and its writers, if the main character only gets developed in the very last page of the book?

MC character development and relatability SHOULD be priority. it was not. I do not have any faith in this writing staff of somehow "saving" him from his gary stu-ness now.


tokumei-ko said:

Akutsuki may be OP compared to the rest of them harem male leads you get in other anime, but considering he has showed no character apart from being the guy who solves everything by fondling women's breast and mowing his adversaries like they were yesterdays news without breaking a sweat is kind of bland and poor direction/writing in the authors part.


^THISSSS SO MUCH

Why should anyone care about this MC? Why should anyone worry about MC?

If someone else is fighting someone - MC will come and rescue them because OBVIOUSLY that someone is incapable of winning by themselves.
IF MC is fighting - he will win.
If something bad happens to MC - he will pull out a new bullshit technique that negates the bad effects and makes him even more perfect and flawless.

There's no real doubt or build up about anything MC does here because he has no reasoning to back up his actions, no personality to make his actions understandable and no flaws to make us fear of him failing at what he does.

How is that any more interesting than a typical harem lead? At least with typical harem leads, SOMETIMES you actually get a script writer who GETS IT and develops the lead through the events into someone interesting, relatable and badass.


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Jeez dude...if u hated this anime so much why make it hard on yourself by watching it to the end....instead you finished the anime and complain about the MC...talk about hate


Learn your terms, kid.

Negative opinion without argumentation or point = hate.

Negative opinion backed up with argumentation as a way of getting to a point = criticism.


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also all the female characters are likable....

you miss-spelled naked.

All female "characters" in this anime are submissive fanservice objects that can't do anything by themselves and have to rely on one and only main character to fondleguide them in their roles of support.
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Persius said:
Dont worry different san , i m sure there will be season 2 and even 3 or more. U see because the 2nd half of the last episode was made with the view of 2nd season ,
My guess is season 2 will be completely focused on events in that other world - Alazzard , maybe they will keep it to 12 episodes or so [i feel it highly likely ] and season 3 will be on the events that occur when he returns again with his world, involving with that shadow group who is keeping watch on akatsuki . [Well i may be wrong in some things as i have not read the novel or manga but i have got this intuition that things may go this way ] So basically it will be just a wait of time until season 2 arrives :D


heres hoping for a season 2
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Tenchi_Ryu said:
tokumei-ko said:

Akutsuki is Gary Stu(and you know this)...only kids under 10 like Gary Stu's

Keep enjoying your pussy bitch normal Harem MCs then. If anything, most grown ass men I know LOVED a MC like Akatsuki, who actually has a backbone and just don't give a fuck.


damn true :) there's plenty of these wimpy MCs who cant handle anything at all. about time you get to see some people who truly go at their own pace.
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I agree about the overpowered part however...HE WAS MEANT TO BE THAT WAY! Obviously. Its i an attempt to move a way from all the pathetic main characters who have to be supported by an entire harem of super powered girls you know like (Sekirei, And to luv RU). Im not against female leads. In fact I like both of those shows. BUT...I AM SO SICK OF THE MAN GUY HAVING TO BE SO PATHETICALLY WEAK AND CLUELESS! I say we get more badasses like Alucard back into the anime. He was OP as well. Never really had a challenge until THE LAST chapters of the whole series.Yet he is one of the most wickedly cool main characters for me. So if you like the weak guy leads its cool. But some of us actually like to see a guy with some cahones every once in a while.
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I loved the series and I want to see more
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I liked this show, finally we got bad ass main character who knows what he's doing. And i personally hope for second season.

I'd say that even plot wasn't bad despite of what some ppl say. if creators manage to bring us second or even 3rd season it will make pretty good combo all to together with 1st season as "getting know characters and hinting some things", 2nd season about "resolving troubles in alternative world" and 3rd season dealing with that "power hungry organization of shady characters".
( Currently interested in OP MC genre. Recommendations are welcomed, preferable those yet not on my list )
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tokumei-ko said:

Can I yawn now? For a minute there I thought I was back in class and was given a report on how badly I'd done on my thesis to relativity. So tell me, did it feel good? I mean writing all that, because you my friend deserve a prize and guess what it is? You get to replace the director of this series 'coz your half page essay was more exciting than the 20+ minute episode that I sat through of that final episode...and well done Sherlock Holmes, after sleuthing through my profile you found out I was trolling...



*sigh*

too bad i'm not here to entertain you. it's more like getting my point across. but it's alright, some people never learn. have fun having half assing arguments with all the low-intelligence beings of MAL.

also, it's great to change the topic once you know your argument has no basis, or anything to stand on. does that also feel good? entertains you? well, doesn't matter. dumb mentality will be dumb mentality.
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I agree about the overpowered part however...HE WAS MEANT TO BE THAT WAY! Obviously. Its i an attempt to move a way from all the pathetic main characters who have to be supported by an entire harem of super powered girls you know like (Sekirei, And to luv RU). Im not against female leads. In fact I like both of those shows. BUT...I AM SO SICK OF THE MAN GUY HAVING TO BE SO PATHETICALLY WEAK AND CLUELESS! I say we get more badasses like Alucard back into the anime. He was OP as well. Never really had a challenge until THE LAST chapters of the whole series.Yet he is one of the most wickedly cool main characters for me. So if you like the weak guy leads its cool. But some of us actually like to see a guy with some cahones every once in a while.


it has nothing to do with overpoweredness.

Alucard was a great character because he was a character. Overpowered part was just a plus.

Akatsuki has no personality nor character.There's just the overpowered part and that makes him dull as hell.
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Fai said:
Onbuu said:

You have a point about lack of background story, which can be fixed with 2nd season and whole " winning hands down" thing without scratches is pretty boring ,but knowing that MC gonna win... it's almost like a rule in animes like this.


What does it tell about the book and its writers, if the main character only gets developed in the very last page of the book?

MC character development and relatability SHOULD be priority. it was not. I do not have any faith in this writing staff of somehow "saving" him from his gary stu-ness now.


tokumei-ko said:

Akutsuki may be OP compared to the rest of them harem male leads you get in other anime, but considering he has showed no character apart from being the guy who solves everything by fondling women's breast and mowing his adversaries like they were yesterdays news without breaking a sweat is kind of bland and poor direction/writing in the authors part.


^THISSSS SO MUCH

Why should anyone care about this MC? Why should anyone worry about MC?

If someone else is fighting someone - MC will come and rescue them because OBVIOUSLY that someone is incapable of winning by themselves.
IF MC is fighting - he will win.
If something bad happens to MC - he will pull out a new bullshit technique that negates the bad effects and makes him even more perfect and flawless.

There's no real doubt or build up about anything MC does here because he has no reasoning to back up his actions, no personality to make his actions understandable and no flaws to make us fear of him failing at what he does.

How is that any more interesting than a typical harem lead? At least with typical harem leads, SOMETIMES you actually get a script writer who GETS IT and develops the lead through the events into someone interesting, relatable and badass.


Gr33ncar said:
Jeez dude...if u hated this anime so much why make it hard on yourself by watching it to the end....instead you finished the anime and complain about the MC...talk about hate


Learn your terms, kid.

Negative opinion without argumentation or point = hate.

Negative opinion backed up with argumentation as a way of getting to a point = criticism.


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also all the female characters are likable....

you miss-spelled naked.

All female "characters" in this anime are submissive fanservice objects that can't do anything by themselves and have to rely on one and only main character to fondleguide them in their roles of support.

hate is hate dude...criticizing is still a form of hate....it all means the same in the end...your just a big complainer that looks to hard into things especially anime
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Tenchi_Ryu said:
Akatsuki was out of the norm, that is why he's popular. The perfection made perfect sense because of WHY he was perfect. There was no struggle because he's already done that. He's already had his downs, already has done the level up. He BEAT the boss, he's beaten the game and returned. He IS one of the super leveled advanced players in RPGS who have max their stats.

I've been watching bitchmade leads for the past 10 years with only a few exceptions, so his Gary Stu was a PERFECT cleanse of the past years.

And for christ sakes, Its just a fictional piece of work, no need to get bent out of shape about how fictional female characters are being treated. IF that was the case, rape themed porn would never exist, its just a fetish out of all the many fetishes in the world. And by the way, WOMEN have ruled the anime world for years now, it always has and always WILL be a female dominant niche, so I have NO problem with a guy actually doing all the badass work for once in this genre.

I never understand how people want to complain and complain, yet kept watching it all the way through. You've done nothing but waste your time, and built up negative towards the series. Its not even that serious, just move on to something more for you.


^ this
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I personally think that Akatsuki changed some of his personality and i would give one example for people out who think that he did not develop throughout the 12 episode.

1: At the beginning, he was more of a solo person instead of being in a team and he is now in a team and working with them to protect Alazzard

I feel that this 12 episode is more on the development of myuu instead of Akatsuki as Akatsuki is the 'protector' of myuu so he is needed to be perfect whereas myuu is still growing and she is the main point of development, i think the authors decided to develop myuu who is imperfect instead of Akatsuki which is alrready perfect and truth be told, what can be done to develop a perfect character?

With that said, i hope that everyone here enjoys Anime and not qurrel among each other but discussion is definitely welcome :D
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falkner99 said:

I feel that this 12 episode is more on the development of myuu instead of Akatsuki as Akatsuki is the 'protector' of myuu so he is needed to be perfect whereas myuu is still growing and she is the main point of development, i think the authors decided to develop myuu who is imperfect instead of Akatsuki which is alrready perfect and truth be told, what can be done to develop a perfect character?


All good, except that...they did not develop her and she is amongst the most bland, useless and least developed lead females this years.

Gr33ncar said:

hate is hate dude...criticizing is still a form of hate....it all means the same in the end...your just a big complainer that looks to hard into things especially anime

And with that logic, human society would be still living in caves. Criticism is the way art evolves, via rejection of kitsch and improvement of art. If you can't deal with criticism then good luck with your life as it will be hard ride with nothing achieved, then.
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SD_CV said:
I liked the series but the last episode made me feel as if the whole 12 episodes were nothing more than one big intro...


Thi was my feeling after the episode!!!

tokumei-ko said:
Pro's -
...whilst the last episode did leave an opening for a season 2, as I mentioned in episode discussion, unless they miraculously pop sales out of their asses I don't see this series going anywhere near a 2nd season..ofc i could be wrong


Phi Brain never sold a lot and It will have a third season already....
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errr...you tell me I insult ppl like TenRyuu for having an opinion yet your happy to state that all of MAL have low intelligence, yeh ok buddy. The reason why I didn't need to argue your point was to prove that you were trolled as a fantard. Doesn't matter if you were right or wrong, you're a fantard, and with fantards there's their way or the highway when it comes to their favorite series(which I'm guessing Hagure is yours). So yes, thank you for taking the bait, it did entertain me for a few minutes. By the way, since when did I ever mentioned that I rejected anyone's opinion in here? Everyone's free to like what they like, just be prepared to receive criticism when they're in a discussion such as in this thread.

As a matter of fact I happened to like this series at the beginning but as I mentioned in my first post(and pretty sure everyone else has said this) (Yes)Akatsuki is BOSS and is the main reason why most have stayed to watch Hagure, but you take him away from the show and what do you have? Don't need me to answer that one. If a show can only stand on its own due to one underdeveloped character, then that's just like saying I gave Tengen Toppa a 10 just because Kamina is awesome and so GAR, or I gave Code Geass a 10 because Lelou has special powers. See where I'm getting at? This series showed a lot of promise at episode 1 and pretty much left its viewers there, everything else was boring school life with Akatsuki opening pandora's box in each and every episode and answering it with a boob grab whilst spouting off some cheesy words of wisdom. And we're suppose to think this is great, why? Yep, sign me up for season 2. On behalf of the female population all I can say is well done, yet another ALPHA male for teens and kids to feel proud of.

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sure you haven't mistaken this series for sword art online?
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Gr33ncar said:

hate is hate dude...criticizing is still a form of hate....it all means the same in the end...your just a big complainer that looks to hard into things especially anime

Fai said:
And with that logic, human society would be still living in caves. Criticism is the way art evolves, via rejection of kitsch and improvement of art. If you can't deal with criticism then good luck with your life as it will be hard ride with nothing achieved, then.

So how does your own criticism applies to this art evolution of yours? All i see is a bunch of hate towards character traits..saying how he is "to PERFECT" and a "misogyny"...Perhaps the producers made the characters the way they are because the LN sold quite nicely for this series? and thats what the ppl wanted?...i honestly have no idea if thats true since i just read that in some forums on MAL...but it seems like it has sold enough...You know I've seen some hate towards this anime but you sir..your different...you express more criticism in this anime then anyone...and it caught my attention...their should be a amount of criticism towards something..either way to much would consider just hating...if you dont like it then you shoulda just dropped it...no one wants to see people express so much hate..or in your terms "criticisms"
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This anime had the most bad ass main caracter ever well ther ir 2-3 shows that ir like that but not that IN YOUR FACE ! LOL
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falkner99 said:


sure you haven't mistaken this series for sword art online?

I didnt know SAO have a character named Akatsuki....... -.-
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HYNE is one of the anime that got near-perfect male lead character, a rare sight in animes these days. We always entertained ourselves with stupid/glutton/nakama lead character, so why not changing some air into this type of anime once for a while. Second season? Why not?
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