| People dislike like it because. 1. Story ain't that great to begin with. They literally showed a bigger plot at the last 10 mins of episode, wtf? 2. Season 2 may or may not happen. How they did the ending was like opening a season 2. 3. Your common ecchi show. 4. Enemies are pretty straight forward, one being Hikami the student council president as his name is clearly shown in episode 12 speaking about some plot. Probably a few more people, one being Kaitou he has something to do with fighting against Hikami. Also the T.V quality sucked hard. |
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| I liked the series but the last episode made me feel as if the whole 12 episodes were nothing more than one big intro... |
| YT: Gaming (gw2,...), cons and more: http://www.youtube.com/user/Vercammen312 Monster girls club card: http://myanimelist.net/clubs.php?cid=27137 See profile for exemples. |
| I like the mindless action and ecchi this show offers, but... that's about it. The story didn't really bother me, but the execution of it was lame and boring. Do I want a season 2? No. |
| I enjoyed this show. I would really watch another season. |
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SD_CV said: I liked the series but the last episode made me feel as if the whole 12 episodes were nothing more than one big intro... Yeah, I second that. The last fight was dragged out way to much also. |
| Pro's - Won't say original, but at least a new take to fantasy setting Akutsuki being boss means no BS emo episodes Cons - Plot is minimal Season ended with more questions then answers Akutsuki is Gary Stu(and you know this)...only kids under 10 like Gary Stu's The girls are annoying and Mui overplays damsel in distress in nearly every episode Coming from a girl, a guy rubbing someones breasts does not make the situation ok ...whilst the last episode did leave an opening for a season 2, as I mentioned in episode discussion, unless they miraculously pop sales out of their asses I don't see this series going anywhere near a 2nd season..ofc i could be wrong |
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tokumei-ko said: They don't need to. Something is bound to turn out pop out of a S2 of it. Maken-Ki and other animes despite getting low sales still manage a S2.unless they miraculously pop sales out of their asses I don't see this series going anywhere near a 2nd season..ofc i could be wrong Also the MC being boss might stem a demand from it, although I did not see that since Bastard! Or Orphan. |
| It was fun but i dont really care wether it gets another season or not. |
| Oh gods I hope S2 never happens. The show had potential in the ideas and the fact that main is not typical "everyday wimp"....but the show itself ruined it all completely: - Female "lead" is utterly boring and personality-less, being there for pure reason of sex-appeal for the target demographics. - The lead male instead of being "useless wimp" ended up being a completely perfect-good-at-everything-he-does Gary Stu with no real flaws or weaknesses and that's just as infuriating as emo protagonists, if not more, since hey, with "emo" protagonist there's a chance he will develop into someone interesting as the show progresses...here? we have another horrible "character" like kira yamato. - MISOGYNY AND SEXISM EVERYWHERE. Now I know that its ecchi show and its from japan and all, but oh gods, this has to have some of the most misogynistic writing styles EVER used in anime. All females are useless sex-appeal objects, sidelined to support or failure and only males can save the day? No thank you. - Frankly the basic plot ideas are good, but all the superior story and character ideas are sidelined for some reason, so the inferior and mediocre ideas can take the front stage... So no, no, no. I hope this never returns ever again. Its a miracle I survived those 12 episodes. |
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| Dont worry different san , i m sure there will be season 2 and even 3 or more. U see because the 2nd half of the last episode was made with the view of 2nd season , My guess is season 2 will be completely focused on events in that other world - Alazzard , maybe they will keep it to 12 episodes or so [i feel it highly likely ] and season 3 will be on the events that occur when he returns again with his world, involving with that shadow group who is keeping watch on akatsuki . [Well i may be wrong in some things as i have not read the novel or manga but i have got this intuition that things may go this way ] So basically it will be just a wait of time until season 2 arrives :D |
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Fai said: Oh gods I hope S2 never happens. The show had potential in the ideas and the fact that main is not typical "everyday wimp"....but the show itself ruined it all completely: - Female "lead" is utterly boring and personality-less, being there for pure reason of sex-appeal for the target demographics. - The lead male instead of being "useless wimp" ended up being a completely perfect-good-at-everything-he-does Gary Stu with no real flaws or weaknesses and that's just as infuriating as emo protagonists, if not more, since hey, with "emo" protagonist there's a chance he will develop into someone interesting as the show progresses...here? we have another horrible "character" like kira yamato. - MISOGYNY AND SEXISM EVERYWHERE. Now I know that its ecchi show and its from japan and all, but oh gods, this has to have some of the most misogynistic writing styles EVER used in anime. All females are useless sex-appeal objects, sidelined to support or failure and only males can save the day? No thank you. - Frankly the basic plot ideas are good, but all the superior story and character ideas are sidelined for some reason, so the inferior and mediocre ideas can take the front stage... So no, no, no. I hope this never returns ever again. Its a miracle I survived those 12 episodes. Akatsuki Ousawa became one of my favorite main characters of all time. Miu on the other hand single handly ruined the whole show. I do want a season 2 just to see my boi Akatsuki Ousawa. |
Persius said: With your amount watched I can trust this but IMO they might kill off Miyu and get Listy in. :D Dont worry different san , i m sure there will be season 2 and even 3 or more. U see because the 2nd half of the last episode was made with the view of 2nd season , My guess is season 2 will be completely focused on events in that other world - Alazzard , maybe they will keep it to 12 episodes or so [i feel it highly likely ] and season 3 will be on the events that occur when he returns again with his world, involving with that shadow group who is keeping watch on akatsuki . [Well i may be wrong in some things as i have not read the novel or manga but i have got this intuition that things may go this way ] So basically it will be just a wait of time until season 2 arrives :D That would be better IMO. Listy has so much promise when you see the focus on her in the second half of last episode. So yeah PLEASE KILL MIYU IN S2! THANK YOU! |
| I dont understand the thread, everything in the final episode like hinted towards a season 2, it wasnt even an ending episode of sorts, and although I think this was a terrible anime, the whole introduction of all the stuff in episode 12 got me a bit hyped for an s2 |
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tokumei-ko said: Akutsuki is Gary Stu(and you know this)...only kids under 10 like Gary Stu's *sigh* i don't really see that as a con. compared to a lot of shit out there who overuses the style of "wimpy fuck who suddenly gains power to prove his worth". and yes, i'm talking about accel world, and i might not even say guilty crown, cause there was some sort of actual plot there. akatsuki's overpowerdness has a reason. yet to be revealed completely, but slightly shown already. there is more to him than just him being a gary stu. and that's what makes him likeable. also, generalizations about kids that are about 10 years old are the only ones that like that type of character is just as good as saying how pre pubescent girls are the only ones that like mahou shoujos. and we know we all loved nanoha and madoka. as for an s2. greatly welcome. estetica isn't really cut out to be 12 episodes anyways. the story can dig far deeper. |
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| Oh wow! That was better than I expected, I am really looking forward to S2. I want to see him butcher demons with his giant sword. |
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tokumei-ko said: Akutsuki is Gary Stu(and you know this)...only kids under 10 like Gary Stu's Keep enjoying your pussy bitch normal Harem MCs then. If anything, most grown ass men I know LOVED a MC like Akatsuki, who actually has a backbone and just don't give a fuck. |
Richard_Omega said: tokumei-ko said: Akutsuki is Gary Stu(and you know this)...only kids under 10 like Gary Stu's *sigh* i don't really see that as a con. compared to a lot of shit out there who overuses the style of "wimpy fuck who suddenly gains power to prove his worth". and yes, i'm talking about accel world, and i might not even say guilty crown, cause there was some sort of actual plot there. akatsuki's overpowerdness has a reason. yet to be revealed completely, but slightly shown already. there is more to him than just him being a gary stu. and that's what makes him likeable. also, generalizations about kids that are about 10 years old are the only ones that like that type of character is just as good as saying how pre pubescent girls are the only ones that like mahou shoujos. and we know we all loved nanoha and madoka. as for an s2. greatly welcome. estetica isn't really cut out to be 12 episodes anyways. the story can dig far deeper. ^this |
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| I can't wait to see how the queen reacts to Akatsuki's return. I hope a season 2 comes soon |
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| ending makes it look like a season 2 is possible.. |
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| i dont care what you ppl say...i want a season 2 |
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| I would like a second season to know what happens next I hate unfinished stories, but I am patient enough to wait until B-T translates the novel if it doesn't happen. |
| you give this shit a season 2 but not campione? outrageous. |
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Richard_Omega said: tokumei-ko said: Akutsuki is Gary Stu(and you know this)...only kids under 10 like Gary Stu's *sigh* i don't really see that as a con. compared to a lot of shit out there who overuses the style of "wimpy fuck who suddenly gains power to prove his worth". and yes, i'm talking about accel world, and i might not even say guilty crown, cause there was some sort of actual plot there. akatsuki's overpowerdness has a reason. yet to be revealed completely, but slightly shown already. there is more to him than just him being a gary stu. and that's what makes him likeable. also, generalizations about kids that are about 10 years old are the only ones that like that type of character is just as good as saying how pre pubescent girls are the only ones that like mahou shoujos. and we know we all loved nanoha and madoka. as for an s2. greatly welcome. estetica isn't really cut out to be 12 episodes anyways. the story can dig far deeper. Gary Stu/Mary Sue type characters are NEVER a pro. It pretty much means that the writers failed to develop a character into a character. There's nothing relatable or interesting about the MC of this anime. Why should anyone care about him or what he does? Why should we worry about him succeeding or failing, if he is so good at everything. The show set off to create a "badass" main character, yet failed to develop him properly. ANd that is never a good thing. Tenchi_Ryu said: tokumei-ko said: Akutsuki is Gary Stu(and you know this)...only kids under 10 like Gary Stu's Keep enjoying your pussy bitch normal Harem MCs then. If anything, most grown ass men I know LOVED a MC like Akatsuki, who actually has a backbone and just don't give a fuck. Backbone means nothing if the main character is underdeveloped MR.Perfect, who has no flaws.(well technically he has a flaw - he is a misogynist asshole, but show refuses to acknowledge it). What makes characters interesting is their flaws. Having someone who has none and succeeds at everything, takes away from any sort of enjoyment the narrative could provide. As it stands now, Akatsuki is just another Kira Yamato. |
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Tenchi_Ryu said: tokumei-ko said: Keep enjoying your pussy bitch normal Harem MCs then. If anything, most grown ass men I know LOVED a MC like Akatsuki, who actually has a backbone and just don't give a fuck. This is the truth. Fuck pussy MCs, Akatsuki FTW!!! Season 2 Cmon!!! |
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| Hope this doesn't turn out like Legend of the legendary heroes. |
| Some serious haters up in here |
| it certainly need a second season! with more echhi :D i loved it :P it was really good,and i dont care, what u haters say :PP but why cant this made - completed - when its finihsed -.- |
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| Akatsuki was out of the norm, that is why he's popular. The perfection made perfect sense because of WHY he was perfect. There was no struggle because he's already done that. He's already had his downs, already has done the level up. He BEAT the boss, he's beaten the game and returned. He IS one of the super leveled advanced players in RPGS who have max their stats. I've been watching bitchmade leads for the past 10 years with only a few exceptions, so his Gary Stu was a PERFECT cleanse of the past years. And for christ sakes, Its just a fictional piece of work, no need to get bent out of shape about how fictional female characters are being treated. IF that was the case, rape themed porn would never exist, its just a fetish out of all the many fetishes in the world. And by the way, WOMEN have ruled the anime world for years now, it always has and always WILL be a female dominant niche, so I have NO problem with a guy actually doing all the badass work for once in this genre. I never understand how people want to complain and complain, yet kept watching it all the way through. You've done nothing but waste your time, and built up negative towards the series. Its not even that serious, just move on to something more for you. |
| Akatsuki himself is reason make 2nd season and watch it (no homo) Sure he is bit OP compared to others and he acts like total ass sometimes. Akatsuki is just awesome...awesome to the max! Kananipa said: Akatsuki was unrealistic. There was no back-story to him to tell us why he's so confident and good at whatever he does, therefore all I could do was roll my eyes at how he's so "perfect", and every scene where he was fighting I just laid back in my chair and knew he was going to come out victorious with almost no scratches. Pure boringness. You have a point about lack of background story, which can be fixed with 2nd season and whole " winning hands down" thing without scratches is pretty boring ,but knowing that MC gonna win... it's almost like a rule in animes like this. |
| Kick ass MC and finally seeing lots of Queen Listy?? Do want S2 |
Tenchi_Ryu said: The perfection made perfect sense because of WHY he was perfect. Dude, you sound like my little brother...he's 10. He also likes it when I show him how to cheat in games. Makes him feel BOSS. As for your post, no need to be butt-hurt, some people watch a series in hopes that the show may get better. Some like myself, are completist and do not like to drop a show midway. Live with the fact that there are people out there who have different opinions to you. Akutsuki may be OP compared to the rest of them harem male leads you get in other anime, but considering he has showed no character apart from being the guy who solves everything by fondling women's breast and mowing his adversaries like they were yesterdays news without breaking a sweat is kind of bland and poor direction/writing in the authors part. So you've been watching bitch ass leads for the last 10yrs, congratulations, that makes you 11? I thought by now you'd at least have grown to appreciate good writing and character development. |
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tokumei-ko said: As for your post, no need to be butt-hurt, some people watch a series in hopes that the show may get better. Some like myself, are completist and do not like to drop a show midway. Live with the fact that there are people out there who have different opinions to you. Should say the same for yourself. I never said anyone couldn't have negative opinions, yet at the same time, no need to put someone down cause THEY liked it. Follow your same advise, and try not insulting people cause they liked something you didn't. Cause I liked a certain aspect you might now, that decides someones age? Wow. If you don't like a show fine, but no need to hope something doesn't get a sequel cause YOU didn't like it, and that's why I addressed Fai in the first place. Why would you want to rob the fans of a potential sequel if they liked it? |
tokumei-ko said: Tenchi_Ryu said: The perfection made perfect sense because of WHY he was perfect. Dude, you sound like my little brother...he's 10. He also likes it when I show him how to cheat in games. Makes him feel BOSS. As for your post, no need to be butt-hurt, some people watch a series in hopes that the show may get better. Some like myself, are completist and do not like to drop a show midway. Live with the fact that there are people out there who have different opinions to you. Akutsuki may be OP compared to the rest of them harem male leads you get in other anime, but considering he has showed no character apart from being the guy who solves everything by fondling women's breast and mowing his adversaries like they were yesterdays news without breaking a sweat is kind of bland and poor direction/writing in the authors part. So you've been watching bitch ass leads for the last 10yrs, congratulations, that makes you 11? I thought by now you'd at least have grown to appreciate good writing and character development. i despise people who make assumptions based on nothing but bad thinking. especially coming from someone who thinks she can discriminate based on likes and dislikes. first of all. you keep referring to this age based personality and thought process. in question of what makes you think like this, i took a visit to your profile. you have not lived long enough to possibly know what adults are like. unless you are a troll. which makes you even worse in a discussion board. in any cases, it's not like 10 year old kids would say that stuff, but it's because you likely were like that, or still are, that you can say this kind of stuff. i know some pretty neat 10 year olders who could probably argue better than you. second. i don't see any butt-hurt post, not from tenchi anyways. his comment is just as valid as yours. it's a discussion board, you know. press your ideas and support them. and try to prove the other wrong. that's what a discussion should be based about. voice your thoughts. i'm sure he's living with the fact that people have different opinions, maybe he hasn't learned that through the internet, you can't make dumb people change their minds. still doesn't mean he's grinding his face against a wall because of you. in fact, you're also very wrong here. and it just goes to show how biased you are towards ecchi shows. akatsuki as a male lead, in this season anyways, may have come off as a weak personality. but at no point was it said that all he did was use brute strength. he has intellect, reasoning, and like someone else posted, a sense of justice. if you can't read into it, and keep thinking that a story could really be carried through the use of a bland character, get a reality check. the story isn't suited for you, and if you just completely dislike it, then carry on, and let the people who actually enjoy reading into characters, and try to figure them out do, actually do what they like. what i'm saying is. you're shallow for thinking that. it matters whether you're the type of person to read between the lines. since that's what some ways of storytelling are. they are not going to give you all of the answers. heck, they might just give you a clusterfuck of ideas. a psycho, or a bland character. doesn't mean that that's all there is to them. the show clearly tried to tell us that. maybe hinting that it all has a direction it's moving in. either way. don't blame the writing or direction if you yourself can't look at it from every angle, or even look for something. once again, reality check. you are not going to get everything served on a plate. lastly, and it pains me the most, since you are pretty much insulting yourself here. how in all hell can you go from an argument saying that someone's been watching bichty male leads for 10 years possibly make you say that he is 11? if you're going to try to insult someone by faulty changing his age, do it in a clever way. that way, people MIGHT actually think you're on the right. and using your own words, live with the fact that people have different opinions. you are not the judge who decides what's good writing and character development. you might just be shallow enough to not understand it yourself. so i'd say, you should wait and grow up before talking about how someone should act as a grown up. if you don't show some traits, don't go accusing of others of not having them. *sigh* |
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Tyrel said: People dislike like it because. 1. Story ain't that great to begin with. They literally showed a bigger plot at the last 10 mins of episode, wtf? 2. Season 2 may or may not happen. How they did the ending was like opening a season 2. 3. Your common ecchi show. 4. Enemies are pretty straight forward, one being Hikami the student council president as his name is clearly shown in episode 12 speaking about some plot. Probably a few more people, one being Kaitou he has something to do with fighting against Hikami. Also the T.V quality sucked hard. You could add "Animation is crappy just like those of a hentai's". But I actually enjoyed this :D |
| Honestly, I think I'll just read the original novels. Eventually. Once I learn Japanese. |
| Dear Math, I'm not a therapist. Solve your own problems. Oh, and Algebra? Stop asking us to find your ex, she's NEVER coming back. |
| High School DxD is getting a second season and that has a repetitive plot set up at least in this one there is some sort of grander plot. I think that if given a chance of a second season and they actually foucus on plot a little more that the harem factor then this might have a chance to turn sales around..........maybey. I just dont like unfinished stories but I guess ill have to read the ligh novel |
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Fai said: Richard_Omega said: tokumei-ko said: Akutsuki is Gary Stu(and you know this)...only kids under 10 like Gary Stu's *sigh* i don't really see that as a con. compared to a lot of shit out there who overuses the style of "wimpy fuck who suddenly gains power to prove his worth". and yes, i'm talking about accel world, and i might not even say guilty crown, cause there was some sort of actual plot there. akatsuki's overpowerdness has a reason. yet to be revealed completely, but slightly shown already. there is more to him than just him being a gary stu. and that's what makes him likeable. also, generalizations about kids that are about 10 years old are the only ones that like that type of character is just as good as saying how pre pubescent girls are the only ones that like mahou shoujos. and we know we all loved nanoha and madoka. as for an s2. greatly welcome. estetica isn't really cut out to be 12 episodes anyways. the story can dig far deeper. Gary Stu/Mary Sue type characters are NEVER a pro. It pretty much means that the writers failed to develop a character into a character. There's nothing relatable or interesting about the MC of this anime. Why should anyone care about him or what he does? Why should we worry about him succeeding or failing, if he is so good at everything. The show set off to create a "badass" main character, yet failed to develop him properly. ANd that is never a good thing. Tenchi_Ryu said: tokumei-ko said: Akutsuki is Gary Stu(and you know this)...only kids under 10 like Gary Stu's Keep enjoying your pussy bitch normal Harem MCs then. If anything, most grown ass men I know LOVED a MC like Akatsuki, who actually has a backbone and just don't give a fuck. Backbone means nothing if the main character is underdeveloped MR.Perfect, who has no flaws.(well technically he has a flaw - he is a misogynist asshole, but show refuses to acknowledge it). What makes characters interesting is their flaws. Having someone who has none and succeeds at everything, takes away from any sort of enjoyment the narrative could provide. As it stands now, Akatsuki is just another Kira Yamato. Fai said: Richard_Omega said: tokumei-ko said: Akutsuki is Gary Stu(and you know this)...only kids under 10 like Gary Stu's *sigh* i don't really see that as a con. compared to a lot of shit out there who overuses the style of "wimpy fuck who suddenly gains power to prove his worth". and yes, i'm talking about accel world, and i might not even say guilty crown, cause there was some sort of actual plot there. akatsuki's overpowerdness has a reason. yet to be revealed completely, but slightly shown already. there is more to him than just him being a gary stu. and that's what makes him likeable. also, generalizations about kids that are about 10 years old are the only ones that like that type of character is just as good as saying how pre pubescent girls are the only ones that like mahou shoujos. and we know we all loved nanoha and madoka. as for an s2. greatly welcome. estetica isn't really cut out to be 12 episodes anyways. the story can dig far deeper. Gary Stu/Mary Sue type characters are NEVER a pro. It pretty much means that the writers failed to develop a character into a character. There's nothing relatable or interesting about the MC of this anime. Why should anyone care about him or what he does? Why should we worry about him succeeding or failing, if he is so good at everything. The show set off to create a "badass" main character, yet failed to develop him properly. ANd that is never a good thing. Tenchi_Ryu said: tokumei-ko said: Akutsuki is Gary Stu(and you know this)...only kids under 10 like Gary Stu's Keep enjoying your pussy bitch normal Harem MCs then. If anything, most grown ass men I know LOVED a MC like Akatsuki, who actually has a backbone and just don't give a fuck. Backbone means nothing if the main character is underdeveloped MR.Perfect, who has no flaws.(well technically he has a flaw - he is a misogynist asshole, but show refuses to acknowledge it). What makes characters interesting is their flaws. Having someone who has none and succeeds at everything, takes away from any sort of enjoyment the narrative could provide. As it stands now, Akatsuki is just another Kira Yamato. Jeez dude...if u hated this anime so much why make it hard on yourself by watching it to the end....instead you finished the anime and complain about the MC...talk about hate |
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| And this is why you can't win with fantards... Tenchi_Ryu said: You make it sound like I'm the one that attacked you. If you start from page 1 and read my first post, as I mentioned; I said they might not do a season 2 purely on sales alone. I also said I could be wrong....BUT, how many series out there are we still waiting for a season 2 that is purely a cut above this series? I'm pretty sure you can name some. Ahh, let's see: Legend of the Legendary Heroes, Deadman Wonderland, Berserk(although we've only just started to get an OVA recently after how many years), Kenichi, Claymore...list goes on. If you would like me to apologize about calling you 10yr old, consider this post as so, but that doesn't change the fact that you still act like my little brother who jumps around everytime his favorite superhero is on TV. So Akatsuki is OP, I think we got that from the many rave reviews and discussion threads for this series, no need to keep pointing it out. Richard_Omega said: Can I yawn now? For a minute there I thought I was back in class and was given a report on how badly I'd done on my thesis to relativity. So tell me, did it feel good? I mean writing all that, because you my friend deserve a prize and guess what it is? You get to replace the director of this series 'coz your half page essay was more exciting than the 20+ minute episode that I sat through of that final episode...and well done Sherlock Holmes, after sleuthing through my profile you found out I was trolling... |
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Tenchi_Ryu said: tokumei-ko said: Akutsuki is Gary Stu(and you know this)...only kids under 10 like Gary Stu's Keep enjoying your pussy bitch normal Harem MCs then. If anything, most grown ass men I know LOVED a MC like Akatsuki, who actually has a backbone and just don't give a fuck. ^^ This... And plot is good considering the genre also all the female characters are likable.... NEED A 2ND SEASON |
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