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01-16-13, 9:39 PM

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I would really appreciate a comment from one of the administrators in this topic so we know they haven't completely forgotten about this... is there any way to contact them directly?
 
01-17-13, 7:33 AM
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Articalys said:
I would really appreciate a comment from one of the administrators in this topic so we know they haven't completely forgotten about this... is there any way to contact them directly?


We have not forgotten about this.

Yoshida_Haru said:
Oh please! It is truly a pain to find less known manga. Especially when they don't even have their English name in the database.

I recently found Ao Haru Ride, which really caught my interest, and I wanted to see if I can find it in English, so I can buy it and read it. It took me quite a while until I FINALLY found it. Wouldn't it be more simple if it was in English in the first place?

Furthermore, if we could have English titles ONLY for licensed manga, that would be splendid! That way, we can even know if the manga is available on websites such as Amazon, Rightstuf, etc.


I'm confused first you say you couldn't find a manga because the title wasn't in English but then you say we should only have English titles for licensed manga (which the title you were looking for was not).

I did look at the entry and it did need a correction. "English title" is in fact only for licensed titled names but some of the older entries need to be updated and move it to synonyms for more consistency. (Which I have done so). If you see an English title under "English title" on a page but it is not licensed (and never was) please feel free to report it in the Manga DB Modifications thread.
 
01-17-13, 11:17 AM

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Brand said:
We have not forgotten about this.


'kay... so what action is being taken, exactly? I've PM'd Xinil and Kineta directly but have not been able to get any significant information in response.

1) Is the toggle function happening? That is, is anyone actually working on the coding for it as we speak?

2) If not, what are staff members' opinions on moving back to licensed titles? It's impossible to gauge whether or not we, the users, are having any impact or being heard unless a member of staff chimes in on the discussion at least occasionally.
 
01-17-13, 1:32 PM

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XTApocalypse said:
Brand said:
We have not forgotten about this.



2) If not, what are staff members' opinions on moving back to licensed titles? It's impossible to gauge whether or not we, the users, are having any impact or being heard unless a member of staff chimes in on the discussion at least occasionally.


to be fair Redfoxoffire has commented here and quite often and is a anime moderator so its not like staff haven't left comments. that being said Xinil and Kineta would probably be the only ones who would be able to post updates or have any real affect(no offence intended..just know normal mods have next to no power in the grand scheme of things besides entries)
 
01-17-13, 1:51 PM

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Redfox is a moderator? I wasn't aware. You're right about Xinil and Kineta being the only ones with any real authority on the matter, though, which is why I tried to contact them. =(
 
01-17-13, 2:21 PM
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1) Xinil would have to answer this.

2) This is my personal opinion. I'm all for standardizing the database. So, I'd like to all romanized titles as the main titles as there are many titles that do not have an official English title. For me it is all about what can provide more consistency. I believe moving moving to a more consistent database will help greatly in moderating it for all current and future mods.
 
01-17-13, 3:53 PM
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RyokoAyekaLover said:
to be fair Redfoxoffire has commented here and quite often and is a anime moderator so its not like staff haven't left comments. that being said Xinil and Kineta would probably be the only ones who would be able to post updates or have any real affect(no offence intended..just know normal mods have next to no power in the grand scheme of things besides entries)

Yes, although in this case I'm mostly posting as a normal user. If I receive any relevant information I'll be sure to make it known (if allowed), but there isn't much I can actually do myself. The staff, and Kineta in particular, knows my stance on the matter, but as far as I know I'm largely alone.

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Does it matter if it's easier for moderation if it means it's less useful to the end user? Shouldn't they be the focus of the database?

I'm just gonna get this out there: theoretically, if we were to switch to an ANN-style licensed-titles-where-applicable standard, the only big work would be in changing all the current titles to their licensed title (which is, of course, reversing a lot of recent changes that wouldn't have needed to happen). Keeping up with licensed titles is easy and is something we basically already do anyway with the English Title fields. For example, I handle each season's simulcast list, and if Crunchyroll or another company ever simulcast a show under an English title, I just copy-paste it into the English title field and, like magic, there it is. It would be the same thing with the main title except I would put it in the main title field as well as moving the romaji title to synonyms.

As for the argument of wanting consistency for easier moderation, all systems thus proposed are consistent, just in different ways.

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01-17-13, 5:23 PM

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Redfox is a moderator? I wasn't aware. You're right about Xinil and Kineta being the only ones with any real authority on the matter, though, which is why I tried to contact them. =(


yeah,just wanted to point that out was all since it wasn't that void of staff was all lol.but yeah it wouldn't hurt to see some sort of update on it or something though...though that being said Xinil said he had some stuff planned for the near future many months ago that hasn't seen the light of day yet either so it might be slow coming.

Redfoxoffire said:

Yes, although in this case I'm mostly posting as a normal user. If I receive any relevant information I'll be sure to make it known (if allowed), but there isn't much I can actually do myself. The staff, and Kineta in particular, knows my stance on the matter, but as far as I know I'm largely alone.


i figured as much but still counts in my book as a staff presence atleast ^^.that would be great ^^ and expected as much. ah ><...thats kinda sad its so one-sided but then i'm not all to shocked based on what Brand said since had a feeling that was the mindset of the majority of the staff.
 
01-18-13, 2:18 PM
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Alright folks, this is overdue and certainly necessary.

Thread locked for cleaning until further notice.
 
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