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Jul 2, 2013 12:55 PM
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Well this might actually be good if i never heard watched the sub.

After watching that masterpiece this just sounds meh.
Jul 2, 2013 1:54 PM

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There's nothing like the original.
It doesn't matter how good the dub is, if a fan knows the original he will always complain.
See the same thing with movies or series dubbed from english to german. It sounds like "shit", whenever you allready know the original.
Jul 6, 2013 9:15 PM
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Monoton said:
There's nothing like the original.
It doesn't matter how good the dub is, if a fan knows the original he will always complain.
See the same thing with movies or series dubbed from english to german. It sounds like "shit", whenever you allready know the original.

Funny you mention that, I tried rewatching Steins;Gate subbed a few days ago and I couldn't help but hate it. I was too used to the dub voices...
Jul 9, 2013 11:21 AM

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FailAtLife said:
Hmm alright here goes...

Okabe.
Sub- Okabe sounds like he fail at life.
Dub- Okabe sounds like he won at life.

Hououin Kyouma sonuvabitch

Kurisu.
Sub- Kurisu sounds like she's japanese lollmaorofl
Dub- Kurisu sounds like she's american lollmaorofl

Tsundere. What's tsundere? Can I eat it?

Mayuri.
Sub- Mayuri is annoying.
Dub- Mayuri is annoyin'

Tutturuu~ What's tutturuu?

You know what I'm sayin'
You know what I'm sayin'

--Come At Me Bro--


I pretty much agree with your comparisons, on another note, I found the dub to be good in another way, therefore if I rewatch Stein's Gate, I will probably watch the dub.

Disclaimer: This is coming from someone who never, I mean NEVER watches dub.
Jul 26, 2013 10:04 PM
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Takana_no_Hana said:
just want to say, dub is bad for your health.


Great contribution to the conversation.

I actually really enjoy the dub! Okabe's voice actor is seriously perfect.
Jul 27, 2013 3:24 AM

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I personally think the sub was way better, and conveyed the emotions better. > . < I'm not a dub hater..I just don't think some dubs are very good compared to the sub.
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Dec 2, 2013 11:17 AM

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avengersaint said:


Disclaimer: This is coming from someone who never, I mean NEVER watches dub.


Don't do this kind of thing, it's a crap arguing tactic and it doesn't make your post any more reliable.

The sub is absolutely better, too. Apart from Daru, everyone in the sub is just better, and in particular Mayuri, Suzuha and Moeka are just downright awful in the dub.

Also, just want to point out that anyone who think's the Okabe in the dub is better has no taste at all. He's okay at the humor, admittedly, but when it comes to portraying despair the sub version blows him out of the water.
Dec 14, 2013 12:30 AM
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either was good loved the story, had to continue with Robotic;Notes but that's a side anime. Um has any word on the movie been made. I haven't been able to view it yet but would like to see how the tie up lose ends.
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Jan 9, 2014 1:52 AM
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man, I may rewatch the dub just for the experience but... Does Okabe's VA grow on you? He sounds like a totally different character. He sounds like a complete snob in the Dub, and that really hurts Okabe's character because he should feel (and sound) like one of the nicest people you'll ever meet.

Like I really have no problem with the quality because it's Par, for how it sounds. But that's just not how Okabe should sound. The voice just reeks of condescension.
Jan 9, 2014 7:02 AM
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He sounds like a complete snob in the Dub, and that really hurts Okabe's character because he should feel (and sound) like one of the nicest people you'll ever meet.
You're talking about the guy who screamed at somebody he barely knew because she didn't use his made-up name, right?

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Jan 9, 2014 11:00 AM
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Yeah but even that. It always sounds like he's joking or having a good time. Not a major douchenozzle. :P
Jan 9, 2014 11:35 AM
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Naxek said:
Yeah but even that. It always sounds like he's joking or having a good time. Not a major douchenozzle. :P
Nah, acting superior as a way of compensating for his personal failings is a more interesting character choice anyways. He's always saying he's a mad scientist. They're mad. And evil. Not fun-loving. It's at the core of who he is: trying hard to be something he just isn't. It makes the moments where he is kind and genuine mean much more.

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Jan 9, 2014 12:25 PM
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So it gas been dubbed huh...Now i wonder Now did they make



Sound. That scene is hilarious
Jan 10, 2014 11:29 AM
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Arvis_Jaggamar said:
Naxek said:
Yeah but even that. It always sounds like he's joking or having a good time. Not a major douchenozzle. :P
Nah, acting superior as a way of compensating for his personal failings is a more interesting character choice anyways. He's always saying he's a mad scientist. They're mad. And evil. Not fun-loving. It's at the core of who he is: trying hard to be something he just isn't. It makes the moments where he is kind and genuine mean much more.

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But the reason he started acting that way is for Mayuri's sake. Hououin Kyouma is the facade, not Okabe.
Jan 11, 2014 2:38 AM

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Kurisu- The voice is just too low and mature if you ask me. She should have used the same voice she gave Lan-Fan in FMA brotherhood, but I'm sure some people won't mind. The acting is good, but sometimes her emotional lines are a bit too held back. Also I feel that she comes off a little overly harsh at times.


That's exactly my only problem with the dub, others sounded good but if I watched the dub before the sub I'm not sure I would have liked Kurisu's character at all. Her low voice is fine but her character is a bit changed.
Jan 13, 2014 6:58 AM
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Naxek said:
Arvis_Jaggamar said:
Naxek said:
Yeah but even that. It always sounds like he's joking or having a good time. Not a major douchenozzle. :P
Nah, acting superior as a way of compensating for his personal failings is a more interesting character choice anyways. He's always saying he's a mad scientist. They're mad. And evil. Not fun-loving. It's at the core of who he is: trying hard to be something he just isn't. It makes the moments where he is kind and genuine mean much more.

-Arvis


But the reason he started acting that way is for Mayuri's sake. Hououin Kyouma is the facade, not Okabe.

Is that not what I said? :(
............seriously, is that not what I said?

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Jan 14, 2014 2:25 PM
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No it isn't. Because I'm saying he's acting that way for a very grounded not superior reason. HE acts that way because he is so kind, sometimes finding it hard to have meaningful personal relationships (and admit feelings for Kurisu, eventually) because he still feels like Mayuri needs him to act that way.
Jan 15, 2014 6:32 AM
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Right, so.... he's acting like a douchenozzle. Which is what I said. I never even said he was doing it for "a superior reason." His whole mad scientist acts stems from his personal failings and close relationship with Mayuri. But in performing the act, he still behaves like a total jerk and hurts people's feelings. He can't pretend to be a mad scientist while being "the nicest guy you've ever met." He switches between the two at the drop of a hat, which is part of what makes his character so awesome.
Example--
Okabe: "I'll just say this, Kurisu. You're a very important friend to me, so if you ever need to talk, I'm here."
Kurisu: "......do you mean it? *hopeful eyes*"
Okabe: *into phone* "She fell for it! She's like putty in my hands!"

So we see him switching from "nicest guy ever" to "jerkface" in the span of 3 seconds. This is hilarious and makes him a fun and interesting character. If he just always sounded nice and pleasant all the time and never grew, he wouldn't be as interesting.

Yes, Kyouma is the facade, the fake, the mad scientist persona. Okabe is the nice guy, the man who protects his friends, the man Kurisu falls in love with. But the fact remains that Okabe is responsible for everything Kyouma says and does, including all the jerky, mean things he says.

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Jan 18, 2014 12:36 PM
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It has been dubbed and I have not seen any of it yet. But I will be buying it soon on amazon.com It seems like a incredible show to watch seems somehwat like Back to the Future the 3 movies.

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Feb 5, 2014 4:25 PM

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I'm surprised people have a problem with this dub. As much as I loved the show when I first watched it in Japanese, it's amazingly easier to follow and translates so well into English. Did you all forget how the Internet speaks in memes? Daru is genius with his leet speak and meme references. Michael J Tatum is always brilliant, and his Okabe is spot on in kookyness and flat out dick attitude at times. And Kurisu sounds even better when her voice has some confidence to back up when she goes into her tsundere bullshit.

Anyway, point is, the anime itself is amazing. So who cares whether one person likes sub/dub better?
Feb 6, 2014 8:13 PM
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Had to add a comment.

I watched the dub and sub side by side, alternating between the two (then playing the visual novel pretty much right after)

So I didn't get attached to a voice and then dislike the other voice when I saw it since I watched both at the same time.

Okarin - Okarin in the sub has the over the top and maniacal mad genius done quite a bit better than the dub, but the dub brings forth a level of intelligence the sub lacked which is a vital portion of his character that was cut from the VN to anime adaptation (they cut the entire time travel theory lecture with Kurisu)

Final verdict: Sub edges out the dub by a hair. But I enjoyed both quite a bit.

Mayuri - In the sub, Mayuri is super sweet, super kind, and they do a good job bringing that to the anime from the VN. The dub is a bit less of the super sweet or more almost valley girl. The tutturu was okay.

Final verdict: Sub was much better than the dub.

Daru - The sub made Daru sound like an idiot, a dumbass, and unable to be taken seriously by anyone. They made him sound way worse than in the VN. The dub actually gives Daru a believable voice that actually sounds normal.

Final verdict: No comparison, the dub was far superior in every way.

Kurisu - The sub Kurisu is pretty passive and her tsundere is kind of cute. The emotion didn't seem the same from the visual novel since a lot of her shining moments were cut (mostly just filler). The dub Kurisu is intelligent, and a bit abraisive. Much more witty.

Final verdict: I liked the dub more, as it suited her character more as a scientist.

The rest of the characters I liked pretty equally in both editions. But since Kurisu is my favorite character I think I liked watching the dub a bit more (That and I didn't have to listen to Daru's horrendous voice in the dub. That shit in unlistenable)
Feb 7, 2014 6:27 AM
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since Kurisu is my favorite character

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Feb 20, 2014 3:05 AM

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You know what? The dub voices sound fine, and since I watch the first episode dubbed first, it'll be hard for me to get used to sub voices. So if you don't like the dub, don't watch it and go watch the sub instead.
Feb 20, 2014 3:10 AM

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It's done really well, actually.
Feb 20, 2014 3:42 AM

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Steins;Gate was one of my very first anime, when I was still unwilling to watched subbed ones, so I've watched in both sub and dub more than once.

Quite frankly, I think this show has one of the best dubs ever - not only in terms of matching the quality of the original but also adding to and enhancing it. The dub script is written incredibly well - especially some of the dialogue (particularly in the first half of the show) and the humour. Makise and Okabe, 2 of my favourite characters, I felt were more expressive in the dub (of course, M.J. Tatum is simply awesome). The only complaint, or rather improvement that I'd have suggested, would be Mayuri's VA - but in my experience, English dubs have never been great at expressing the 'cute girl' voice. To its credit though, SG remains one of the only anime in which that didn't irritate me to the point where I hated the character.
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Feb 27, 2014 6:48 PM
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I was reading an older thread when only episodes 1-4 were out dubbed there were so many people bitching, but now there's a decent number of people loving the dub just goes to show how anime fans are to quick to judge and giving most of us a bad name, I'm more of a dub guy

hell I love dubs so much that I watched 4kids dub of one piece till crocodile stabbed luffy then I check out the subbed version and saw all the blood and violence I was missing

(btw like the one piece funi dub better also just to piss off you subbies)

though my unbiased option would have to be the dubs better

in the sub Mayuri so sweet and annoyingly high pitched that I just wanna strangle her but she's less high pitched in the dub so she's less annoying

in the sub Okabe acted like a dumbass not really sounding smart at all considering he's a fucking scientist dub Okabe is crazy well being witty at the same time making my laugh far more then the sub and he sounds smart to so Okabe sounds much more in charter in the dub since he's also smart

Daru well dub most of you already know how stupid his voice sounds in sub he's a fat hacker but he still has a major role in the story and alot of funny jokes but his sub voice resembles Patrick star from spongebob the Dub I can take seriously and I got more of a laugh outta his jokes

Kurisu well both are pretty close but dub gains points for being in English so dub wins

no minor charters I hated and the cat maids annoying nyan every five fucking words is gone so I don't see a problem

anyone who bitches is either a dub hater a guy who got too attached to the Japanese voices or just doesn't know what the fuck they're talking about since everything fits much better in dub and the annoying parts of the charters are pretty much gone
Feb 28, 2014 6:40 AM
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^^^ So to sum up: Dub = relatable characters. Sub = insulting caricatures.

Sounds about right.

EDIT: well... the Sub Kurisu is pretty good, nothing "caricature" about that performance. But the others are definitely a bit.... "one note." Although Daru, Mayuri, and (horribly) Okabe seem to be the worst offenders in this case.

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Mar 9, 2014 11:19 AM

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I prefer Kurisu's english voice, simply because it matches her personality so much better than "generic cutesy anime girl voice #18438". Heck, even Mayuri's is somewhat distinct instead of "generic cutesy anime girl voice #19339". It's just weird hearing them in Japanese in the movie after watching the series in eng dub.
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Mar 12, 2014 11:59 PM
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Meh, it's ok.
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The dub is good.

Apr 25, 2014 9:11 PM
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holy shit those dubs were terrible... that was beyond awful. Id rather watch subless japanese audio and have no idea whats going on than listen to that crap.
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May 27, 2014 6:32 AM

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Amazing, J. Michael Tatum is great as Okabe.
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I'm 5 episodes into the dub so far. I don't see how anyone in their right mind can say and believe this is anywhere near bad. This may be the best dub I've heard yet. Fantastically written/adapted script, and every actor/actress is giving a natural performance. It all feels very genuine. Okabe's voice actor is especially great.

Yes, Mayuri is not as good as the sub, but I don't see how it can be possible for an English alternative of Mayuri to be as good as her sub alternative in general. Mayuri's dub VA is doing a fine job as it is.

EDIT: Just finished watching all 24 episodes dubbed. Easily the best dub I've ever heard.
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Honestly, great dub. Anyone who doesn't like it has good footing though it is VERY different from the sub. The dub is much less trop-y as any dub usually is. The voice acting is fantastic; however, it's a different take on the characters. The only character that is flat out better in the dub is Taru and the only flat out better sub voice actress is Moeka because she actually sounds kind of like a person in that one.
I loved JMT's take on Okabe, much MUCH more than the person who voiced it in japanese same with Chriiistina! Overall, they are very different interpretations and both are good but I loved the dub. Very very intense where I feel the sub is lacking (especially in the female VA)
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Honestly, great dub. Anyone who doesn't like it has good footing though it is VERY different from the sub. The dub is much less trop-y as any dub usually is. The voice acting is fantastic; however, it's a different take on the characters. The only character that is flat out better in the dub is Taru and the only flat out better sub voice actress is Moeka because she actually sounds kind of like a person in that one.
I loved JMT's take on Okabe, much MUCH more than the person who voiced it in japanese same with Chriiistina! Overall, they are very different interpretations and both are good but I loved the dub. Very very intense where I feel the sub is lacking (especially in the female VA)


I rewatched the whole of steins;gate, in dub this time. Damn good I must say. It was very americanized and it was done damn well. But I must disagree, I believe the sub was just as good, both doing better at some parts than the other leading to a complete equilibrium for me. For the emotional and romance parts, especially episode 22, the sub did better, but for overall dialogue in terms of story dub does better.
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The dub is great. Better than the sub, Tatum fits Okabe much better, and the dialogue is actually much better.
Daru's voice is also weird in the sub. Sounds like a sexual predator.
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The dub is great. Better than the sub, Tatum fits Okabe much better, and the dialogue is actually much better.
Daru's voice is also weird in the sub. Sounds like a sexual predator.


Wouldnt say it's great - it's doable.
I honestly think 90% of the sub crew has the upperhand voice acting wise.

I'm not a dub hater (have seen 5 anime that I prefer dubbed) - allthough I do think most of the dub attempts fail miserably and just dont pull the same feelings in the series as subs do.
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PrOxAnto said:
RedRoseFring said:
The dub is great. Better than the sub, Tatum fits Okabe much better, and the dialogue is actually much better.
Daru's voice is also weird in the sub. Sounds like a sexual predator.


Wouldnt say it's great - it's doable.
I honestly think 90% of the sub crew has the upperhand voice acting wise.

I'm not a dub hater (have seen 5 anime that I prefer dubbed) - allthough I do think most of the dub attempts fail miserably and just dont pull the same feelings in the series as subs do.


The dialogue in the dub is much better. It is one of the few that completely relates to a Western audience with pop culture references.
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RedRoseFring said:
The dialogue in the dub is much better. It is one of the few that completely relates to a Western audience with pop culture references.

Better for those who have no idea what they say in the actual japanese dialogue, to be more precise.
Don't get me wrong, the sub isn't the best way to give back what the original dialogue was like, but they are still better if you actually want to know what they originally said, how it was originally meant to be, and not just "Oh Okabe should say this because translating the japanese sounds wierd. We should just go ahead and rewrite the whole dialogue"...
I want to see pop culture references meant for japanese people, not westernized dialogues...

It hurts me to see how much they change what they say :(

And unfortunately, it's true that most dubs can't give back the feelings of the original voice acting. I only know of 4 exceptions where I either found the dub to be better than the japanese one, or on par with it.
S;G is still one of the better dubs though, that's for sure :)
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I want to see pop culture references meant for japanese people, not westernized dialogues...


I believe that is categorized as being a "weaboo." I prefer references that I can understand.
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My nigga Okabe just isnt the same in dub
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RedRoseFring said:
RazielZero said:

I want to see pop culture references meant for japanese people, not westernized dialogues...


I believe that is categorized as being a "weaboo." I prefer references that I can understand.

Not really, I just want to watch the anime as it was conceived, as it was meant to be. And it's not a problem if you can understand the references that are meant for japanese people :D
Also, I feel like I don't want this to be "tainted" with the current western memes and such :/
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My nigga Okabe just isnt the same in dub
Course not. If you're not speaking English you just can't have the same level of snob.
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RedRoseFring said:
RazielZero said:

I want to see pop culture references meant for japanese people, not westernized dialogues...


I believe that is categorized as being a "weaboo." I prefer references that I can understand.


Pretty much this. And it's what makes this dub shine, in my opinion.

Like the part in episode 9 where Kurisu asks if Okabe could be 'more of a Wesley'. Perfect.
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RazielZero said:
RedRoseFring said:


I believe that is categorized as being a "weaboo." I prefer references that I can understand.

Not really, I just want to watch the anime as it was conceived, as it was meant to be. And it's not a problem if you can understand the references that are meant for japanese people :D
Also, I feel like I don't want this to be "tainted" with the current western memes and such :/


i would have to agree here, If i want to see western cultural references I'll watch WESTERN animation, i watch anime for the Japanese/Asian culture references, maybe watch enough and you'll learn a bit.. which is why i often like subs that put notes in to explain cultural references rather than westernize them).

but to each their own i guess.
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RedRoseFring said:
RazielZero said:

I want to see pop culture references meant for japanese people, not westernized dialogues...


I believe that is categorized as being a "weaboo." I prefer references that I can understand.
No that isn't.
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Since people are going so much offtopic I'll go ahead:

Did you know a new manga is being written and gonna be published in January 16 2015 about 6years after steins gate events? Sequel it seems, possibly a sequel of the anime too in 2-3 years!
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sumusiko said:
Since people are going so much offtopic I'll go ahead:

Did you know a new manga is being written and gonna be published in January 16 2015 about 6years after steins gate events? Sequel it seems, possibly a sequel of the anime too in 2-3 years!

People are still talking about the dub, there is nothing offtopic in that :/

Yes, there has been like 3 threads already about it. And it's going to be a light novel not a manga :)
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RazielZero said:
sumusiko said:
Since people are going so much offtopic I'll go ahead:

Did you know a new manga is being written and gonna be published in January 16 2015 about 6years after steins gate events? Sequel it seems, possibly a sequel of the anime too in 2-3 years!

People are still talking about the dub, there is nothing offtopic in that :/

Yes, there has been like 3 threads already about it. And it's going to be a light novel not a manga :)

How come I can't find the threads =O

Anyways, people are talking about cultures and weaboos I'd say it's pretty offtopic
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