| You make this claim, ok tee23 said: my unbiased reasoning and go on to make one of the most hilariously biased and awfully written posts I have ever read. If you are not trolling (and it really is too much text, effort if you are) then you need to take a step back, friend. I'd explain why your post's tone and conclusions are clearly biased but those claims are pretty self-evident from your post. OT: My personal opinion is that, whilst the english dub is suprisingly decent (and far superior to most dubbed shows), they did not compare to the fantastic performances of Miyano Mamoru and Imai Asami. I also far preferred Mayuri in the sub. |
| omg, this is horrible. but still not the worst i've heard. |
Mazzmoney said: I left everything that sounded somewhat intelligent. I watched the show dubbed first, and didnt complain at all. Thats all I ask for in a dub, the fact that I can watch it and not complain. In fact, i bet 9/10 of you guys who saw it subbed first and didn't like the dub wouldnt have minded if you saw the dub first. That is the sign of a decent dub IMO. t I watched the first four episodes dubbed myself, and of course had no complaints. It is a good dub, that is, if you haven't been exposed to the brilliance that is the subbed S;G. Every seiyuu was perfect for their role, having already practiced so much and perfected them with the VN. From mad scientist laugh to tuturuu~, all the little habits and voice patterns fit the characters and the story like a slipper. Not to mention, half the jokes are lost/rewritten in translation,(you realize it's pointless that Kurisu is nicknamed Cristina in English right)which is understandably unavoidable, but it ends up giving off such a different vibe that I think some of the experience and appreciation of the story may be missed out on. But all I really had to say was: FuUUUuHAHAHAhahaha |
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| But that's only with some of the more obscure references like with @channel(which you don't have to live in Japan to get) and some of the chuunibyou lingo that some people might miss, other than that there's not much you should miss. And I was talking about the signature jokes and lines that have so much originality and creativity unfortunately being lost in translation, ultimately resulting in a somewhat unoriginal and stale dub that brings a drastically different atmosphere than its original. You shouldn't assume that because we don't live in Japan/speak the language that we all missed out on some of the humor/interaction, just because you may have. |
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| I swear the trailer makes the dub sound MUCH worse than it actually is. I thought its supposed to promote it, not deteriorate it. I watched it, and I actually thought it was pretty damn good. The trailers however gave me a bad impression. |
| just want to say, dub is bad for your health. |
Mazzmoney said: It's an assumption that is usually true. You just won't get all the references of a culture when you yourself don't live there. It happens to me all the time when they reference something in Japanese pop culture or a story we don't learn in literature class (this happens often enough in the haruhi suzumiya light novels). You may not find these "obscure" references important but it's part of the experience we are not getting is all. Reading subtitles is a different experience than watching something in your own language is all I'm getting at. But you can't say one is better than the other. Feel free to disagree with me. You have no basis for saying that it's usually true, especially in this case because S;G didn't have much of those kind of cultural references like haruhi did, only ones that I mentioned before which enough time spent watching anime or on the internet will help you understand. And my point is, even if, let's say there was an average of 5 obscure references missed by every person throughout the anime(subbed), having gotten the experience of the originality displayed in all of the signature jokes/phrases/mad scientist laugh outweighs the sad fact that 5 references were missed. Whereas in the dub you miss most, if not all of those things due to having them translated to make more sense to the western viewer, yet there will still be references missed. In the end, the dub takes the originality out of a lot of areas of Steins;Gate. In some places it was unavoidable, yeah, dubs sometimes have to do that obviously. But this is exactly why I prefer the original. I think some things are better left undubbed, but since it exposes Steins;Gate to a broader audience, I won't complain about the fact that it exists. |
AlexTheRiotJun 4, 2013 11:43 AM
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| As an avid steins gate fan, I have to say it's a pretty decent dub, but you do have to watch it with an open mind. Okabe- A lot smarter sounding rather than goofy. This kind of seems like he's actually kinda crazy, rather than a guy whose just intentionally acting crazy for fun (and for spoiler reasons). It's not a bad take of course as the acting was all natural and the actor had all the proper energy. Mayuri- Gives her a little more spunk, she seems more like an ordinary girl then a rather slow and dull girl. It's not bad but some of the line deliveries were rather flat, she's a new voice actress so I'm sure with time this will balance out. Kurisu- The voice is just too low and mature if you ask me. She should have used the same voice she gave Lan-Fan in FMA brotherhood, but I'm sure some people won't mind. The acting is good, but sometimes her emotional lines are a bit too held back. Also I feel that she comes off a little overly harsh at times. Daru- Completely different take. Funny, but it's kind of hard to imagine this guy being obsessed with a maid cafe and a nyan nyan girl haha. Still once you get used to it, the guy does a good job with his character and it's fairly enjoyable. Moeka- Eh she doesn't sound anti-social enough. The girl only communicates through text so she shouldn't be this talkative. Not a huge deal but it's just not accurate for her story. Faris- Just fine, no real problems. Voice works and the acting was great. Suzuha- Same as Faris. Though one line was kinda funny, when she called Okabe a freak. If you know her character she would never say that to anyone haha. Rukako- More natural sounding, but a little too confident if you ask me. It's not bad but I feel like the whole point of her character was for her to be incredibly moe and lacking in confidence, despite being a dude. Everyone else was fine. Coming from someone who watched the anime 3 times and played through the visual novel oof. Btw for the people complaining...what do you consider a good dub? If it's anything along the lines of Cowboy bebop, FMA, Trigun, Black Lagoon, or Death Note even those are quite different from their original sub (both vocally and acting wise). So uh yeah not sure if it's fair to say just because they weren't similar to the sub that it was bad. For the record the best dubs I've ever heard are Black Lagoon and NANA (because ocean just has some seriously good acting talent). |
hyperknees91Jun 5, 2013 11:19 AM
| There's nothing like the original. It doesn't matter how good the dub is, if a fan knows the original he will always complain. See the same thing with movies or series dubbed from english to german. It sounds like "shit", whenever you allready know the original. |
FailAtLife said: Hmm alright here goes... Okabe. Sub- Okabe sounds like he fail at life. Dub- Okabe sounds like he won at life. Hououin Kyouma sonuvabitch Kurisu. Sub- Kurisu sounds like she's japanese lollmaorofl Dub- Kurisu sounds like she's american lollmaorofl Tsundere. What's tsundere? Can I eat it? Mayuri. Sub- Mayuri is annoying. Dub- Mayuri is annoyin' Tutturuu~ What's tutturuu? You know what I'm sayin' You know what I'm sayin' --Come At Me Bro-- I pretty much agree with your comparisons, on another note, I found the dub to be good in another way, therefore if I rewatch Stein's Gate, I will probably watch the dub. Disclaimer: This is coming from someone who never, I mean NEVER watches dub. |
| I personally think the sub was way better, and conveyed the emotions better. > . < I'm not a dub hater..I just don't think some dubs are very good compared to the sub. |
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avengersaint said: Disclaimer: This is coming from someone who never, I mean NEVER watches dub. Don't do this kind of thing, it's a crap arguing tactic and it doesn't make your post any more reliable. The sub is absolutely better, too. Apart from Daru, everyone in the sub is just better, and in particular Mayuri, Suzuha and Moeka are just downright awful in the dub. Also, just want to point out that anyone who think's the Okabe in the dub is better has no taste at all. He's okay at the humor, admittedly, but when it comes to portraying despair the sub version blows him out of the water. |
| Dub > Sub. Stop it weebos |
hyperknees91 said: Kurisu- The voice is just too low and mature if you ask me. She should have used the same voice she gave Lan-Fan in FMA brotherhood, but I'm sure some people won't mind. The acting is good, but sometimes her emotional lines are a bit too held back. Also I feel that she comes off a little overly harsh at times. That's exactly my only problem with the dub, others sounded good but if I watched the dub before the sub I'm not sure I would have liked Kurisu's character at all. Her low voice is fine but her character is a bit changed. |
| I'm surprised people have a problem with this dub. As much as I loved the show when I first watched it in Japanese, it's amazingly easier to follow and translates so well into English. Did you all forget how the Internet speaks in memes? Daru is genius with his leet speak and meme references. Michael J Tatum is always brilliant, and his Okabe is spot on in kookyness and flat out dick attitude at times. And Kurisu sounds even better when her voice has some confidence to back up when she goes into her tsundere bullshit. Anyway, point is, the anime itself is amazing. So who cares whether one person likes sub/dub better? |
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| You know what? The dub voices sound fine, and since I watch the first episode dubbed first, it'll be hard for me to get used to sub voices. So if you don't like the dub, don't watch it and go watch the sub instead. |
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| It's done really well, actually. |
| Steins;Gate was one of my very first anime, when I was still unwilling to watched subbed ones, so I've watched in both sub and dub more than once. Quite frankly, I think this show has one of the best dubs ever - not only in terms of matching the quality of the original but also adding to and enhancing it. The dub script is written incredibly well - especially some of the dialogue (particularly in the first half of the show) and the humour. Makise and Okabe, 2 of my favourite characters, I felt were more expressive in the dub (of course, M.J. Tatum is simply awesome). The only complaint, or rather improvement that I'd have suggested, would be Mayuri's VA - but in my experience, English dubs have never been great at expressing the 'cute girl' voice. To its credit though, SG remains one of the only anime in which that didn't irritate me to the point where I hated the character. |
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| I prefer Kurisu's english voice, simply because it matches her personality so much better than "generic cutesy anime girl voice #18438". Heck, even Mayuri's is somewhat distinct instead of "generic cutesy anime girl voice #19339". It's just weird hearing them in Japanese in the movie after watching the series in eng dub. |
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