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Aug 27, 2012 9:30 PM

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Well I'm sure a little girl being fucked by college students is pretty obscene, but what do I know?
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Though, it is kinda disturbing that people actually like loli hentai .-.
I would even take incest over that. e_e
Aug 27, 2012 9:31 PM

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LittleChocoWolf said:
Well I'm sure a little girl being fucked by college students is pretty obscene, but what do I know?
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Though, it is kinda disturbing that people actually like loli hentai .-.
I would even take incest over that. e_e

Which is why loli incest exists. YEAAAH
Aug 27, 2012 9:39 PM

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LittleChocoWolf said:
Though, it is kinda disturbing that people actually like loli hentai .-.
I would even take incest over that. e_e


Can't it be both?

But OP, I'm pretty sure you're okay. The cases I've heard of where people got in trouble for it, they had real child porn as well and that's what they were busted for.
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Kuhle said:
LittleChocoWolf said:
Though, it is kinda disturbing that people actually like loli hentai .-.
I would even take incest over that. e_e


Can't it be both?

But OP, I'm pretty sure you're okay. The cases I've heard of where people got in trouble for it, they had real child porn as well and that's what they were busted for.


Thanks!!

BTW Thanks everyone for the help!

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Well I'm sure a little girl being fucked by college students is pretty obscene, but what do I know?
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Though, it is kinda disturbing that people actually like loli hentai .-.
I would even take incest over that. e_e


Most lolis are in fact incestuous. :P
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Do cons ever sell loli hentai? I haven't looked myself and I don't know if there's any particular rules against it, but I wouldn't be surprised if they do.

If they do, then you're probably in the clear.
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Aug 27, 2012 10:14 PM

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brb going to jail for life for drawing a big stick figure butt fucking a little stick figure

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Aug 27, 2012 10:27 PM

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I actually do have a problem with some loli hentia. What I find the real difference to be is the style in which its carried out. First there is the typical bite sized loli Wincest (Not incest people, wincest. Get it right >=| ) hentai where the little girls are portrayed in a style that makes them more mature for their age.

Then theres the "lets take advantage of this innocent little child in a sexually explicit manner" type hentai (which are few in numbers I hope) that in my opinion, are meant to recreate the same feelings as normal child pornography.

If you are watching the latter, I would say that counts as child pornography and I would recommend you gets some help and cut yourself off from that type of hentai. Otherwise you should be good. However, jsut know that if you DO get caught and persecuted, youre kinda screwed. I remember reading an article or panel about this. Basically anything within your library that includes children will be used against you in justifying anime medium as a whole as an outlet for child pornography

Ill go find that article. it was pretty interesting. Give me a minute
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It's not illegal to be in possession of more serious crimes depicted in drawing's than under-age kids, like killing and murder, yet people have been prosecuted and given lengthy jail time's for loli porn in my country and have been marked as a sex offender for the rest of their lives.

Whatever, as long as you don't let the whole world know that you have some loli hentai, like openly reading some at the airport on the way back from Comiket, or posting it on Facebook you should be right. The government has better things to worry about like going after real criminals.
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It's a cartoon. It's not real child porn. It's about as illegal as any other hentai

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i know people are thinking what is wrong with a lot of u guys enjoying watching anime kids getting boned? if u go around telling your family, friends, and neighbors that you like watching little anime kids getting boned, im pretty sure they'd think you're weird. just remember don't bother arguing about lolis being gross because the cult following will jump out the woodworks like they always do. so when you get puzzled to why so many people stand up for it on this site, just remember that this is MAL and it attracts a lot of weird people.
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Aug 28, 2012 12:24 AM

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Well it is drawn child porn. You are still enjoying looking at a five years old girl having sex with older men, even though she's 2D. At least Light of the Tsukimi manor is. It's about college students who trick a five years old girl into having sex with them.


That reminds me of this awesome scene.


Yeah, that page indeed is awesome. But the pages following that one weren't.

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Well it is drawn child porn. You are still enjoying looking at a five years old girl having sex with older men, even though she's 2D. At least Light of the Tsukimi manor is. It's about college students who trick a five years old girl into having sex with them.


Well in that doujinshi, akari chan's age isn't mentioned. Am I safe to argue that she can be over the legal age of consent (in japan 14)? That way, it is no longer "lolita", it becomes legal by definition.


Neither is the age of children in CPs. The whole doujin wouldn't even work if she was older (and it wouldn't be a loli doujin), as the students were taking advantage of her because she was a small child and didn't know anything about sex.


I think that the main problem is the definition of "loli" and the types of loli doujins those arrested people had. Loli as in an older girl with a small body is one thing, and loli as in a small child is a different thing. Just the fact of being turned on by a drawn child is still wrong. How is that different than being turned on by real children? That's why stuff like Tsukimi Manor should be considered CP and illegal. The first kind, an older girl with a small body, like Setsuna from School Days, is okay, since she is old enough.

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I think that the main problem is the definition of "loli" and the types of loli doujins those arrested people had. Loli as in an older girl with a small body is one thing, and loli as in a small child is a different thing. Just the fact of being turned on by a drawn child is still wrong. How is that different than being turned on by real children? That's why stuff like Tsukimi Manor should be considered CP and illegal. The first kind, an older girl with a small body, like Setsuna from School Days, is okay, since she is old enough.


Older girl with small body does not = loli.
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I think that the main problem is the definition of "loli" and the types of loli doujins those arrested people had. Loli as in an older girl with a small body is one thing, and loli as in a small child is a different thing. Just the fact of being turned on by a drawn child is still wrong. How is that different than being turned on by real children? That's why stuff like Tsukimi Manor should be considered CP and illegal. The first kind, an older girl with a small body, like Setsuna from School Days, is okay, since she is old enough.


Older girl with small body does not = loli.


I wonder if Shinobu is a loli.. I have my doubts.

She is 500 years old after all.
Too old.
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ZetaZaku said:
Necro-sama said:
ZetaZaku said:
Well it is drawn child porn. You are still enjoying looking at a five years old girl having sex with older men, even though she's 2D. At least Light of the Tsukimi manor is. It's about college students who trick a five years old girl into having sex with them.


That reminds me of this awesome scene.


Yeah, that page indeed is awesome. But the pages following that one weren't.

unj008 said:
ZetaZaku said:
Well it is drawn child porn. You are still enjoying looking at a five years old girl having sex with older men, even though she's 2D. At least Light of the Tsukimi manor is. It's about college students who trick a five years old girl into having sex with them.


Well in that doujinshi, akari chan's age isn't mentioned. Am I safe to argue that she can be over the legal age of consent (in japan 14)? That way, it is no longer "lolita", it becomes legal by definition.


Neither is the age of children in CPs. The whole doujin wouldn't even work if she was older (and it wouldn't be a loli doujin), as the students were taking advantage of her because she was a small child and didn't know anything about sex.


I think that the main problem is the definition of "loli" and the types of loli doujins those arrested people had. Loli as in an older girl with a small body is one thing, and loli as in a small child is a different thing. Just the fact of being turned on by a drawn child is still wrong. How is that different than being turned on by real children? That's why stuff like Tsukimi Manor should be considered CP and illegal. The first kind, an older girl with a small body, like Setsuna from School Days, is okay, since she is old enough.


Well whatever is left on my human side is telling me that getting turned on by children is wrong, but lolis are just lines on a paper. If US protects porn as pursuit of happiness, shouldn't lolis be legal as well? Loli ≠ CP. Personally, I like how the lolis are DRAWN not how their cute innocence is exploited. How is that illegal? I don't understand why people group lolicons as pedophiles! Loli is art while CP is a crime.
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Necro-sama said:
mitch3315 said:
ZetaZaku said:


I think that the main problem is the definition of "loli" and the types of loli doujins those arrested people had. Loli as in an older girl with a small body is one thing, and loli as in a small child is a different thing. Just the fact of being turned on by a drawn child is still wrong. How is that different than being turned on by real children? That's why stuff like Tsukimi Manor should be considered CP and illegal. The first kind, an older girl with a small body, like Setsuna from School Days, is okay, since she is old enough.


Older girl with small body does not = loli.


I wonder if Shinobu is a loli.. I have my doubts.

She is 500 years old after all.
Too old.


Shinobu has loli form and non-loli form, problem solved.
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@unj008 It's one thing just liking a loli character, and a different being aroused by a loli being molested by old people.

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ZetaZaku said:
Well it is drawn child porn. You are still enjoying looking at a five years old girl having sex with older men, even though she's 2D. At least Light of the Tsukimi manor is. It's about college students who trick a five years old girl into having sex with them.


Yea but it's not.

I really don't understand the "well lolicon is just drawn child porn" thought process, Some how everyone is able to realize that depictions of women in hentai and anime, is neither realistic, accurate, or similar to real woman in any meaningful way and easily able to separate the two and separation is obvious even to some who doesn't even watch Anime or Hentai.

But some how this logic isn't afforded to Lolicon

Lolis are in no way are accurate, realistic or similar to real children.
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Just gonna put my opinion on my sleeve for a second and say that if you're reading this kind of shit and you're not a minor yourself, legal or not, you might wanna seek some help, or at the very least go meet some older women.

^This

OP, you sick fuck. Go get some help.
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Just gonna put my opinion on my sleeve for a second and say that if you're reading this kind of shit and you're not a minor yourself, legal or not, you might wanna seek some help, or at the very least go meet some older women.

^This

OP, you sick fuck. Go get some help.

And that is your own opinion, Keep it to yourself rather than denouncing others only because you don't approve of it.
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Necro-sama said:
ZetaZaku said:
Well it is drawn child porn. You are still enjoying looking at a five years old girl having sex with older men, even though she's 2D. At least Light of the Tsukimi manor is. It's about college students who trick a five years old girl into having sex with them.


That reminds me of this awesome scene.

The fun part of the loli comics are the fact that some of them are pretty damn ridiculous.

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Rawrol said:
Deziah said:
DrunkenBlowfish said:
Just gonna put my opinion on my sleeve for a second and say that if you're reading this kind of shit and you're not a minor yourself, legal or not, you might wanna seek some help, or at the very least go meet some older women.

^This

OP, you sick fuck. Go get some help.

And that is your own opinion, Keep it to yourself rather than denouncing others only because you don't approve of it.


Do you believe that the love and sexual tension between a 40 year old and 12 y/o is real and should be legal for the sole reason of not having his perversion denounced?
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XeroCleaths said:
Rawrol said:
Deziah said:
DrunkenBlowfish said:
Just gonna put my opinion on my sleeve for a second and say that if you're reading this kind of shit and you're not a minor yourself, legal or not, you might wanna seek some help, or at the very least go meet some older women.

^This

OP, you sick fuck. Go get some help.

And that is your own opinion, Keep it to yourself rather than denouncing others only because you don't approve of it.


Do you believe that the love and sexual tension between a 40 year old and 12 y/o is real and should be legal for the sole reason of not having his perversion denounced?

But lolicon is harmless. so what is the problem?

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XeroCleaths said:
Rawrol said:
Deziah said:
DrunkenBlowfish said:
Just gonna put my opinion on my sleeve for a second and say that if you're reading this kind of shit and you're not a minor yourself, legal or not, you might wanna seek some help, or at the very least go meet some older women.

^This

OP, you sick fuck. Go get some help.

And that is your own opinion, Keep it to yourself rather than denouncing others only because you don't approve of it.


Do you believe that the love and sexual tension between a 40 year old and 12 y/o is real and should be legal for the sole reason of not having his perversion denounced?


Are you implying enjoying media of depicting two fictional characters having fictional encounters is some thing to denounce simply because their nebulous stated ages?
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Rawrol said:
Deziah said:
DrunkenBlowfish said:
Just gonna put my opinion on my sleeve for a second and say that if you're reading this kind of shit and you're not a minor yourself, legal or not, you might wanna seek some help, or at the very least go meet some older women.

^This

OP, you sick fuck. Go get some help.

And that is your own opinion, Keep it to yourself rather than denouncing others only because you don't approve of it.

This is a message board. I can state my negative opinion if I choose to, regardless of whether you, OP, or anyone else gets butthurt over my comment.
According to your logic, you should keep your opinion of my opinion to yourself. Since opinions aren't "welcome" here, and you don't "approve" of mine (like I give a damn).

Seriously, whether I "denounce" the sick fuckers ITT should be irrelevant to you anyway. Unless, of course, you're one of them.
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Deziah said:
Rawrol said:
Deziah said:
DrunkenBlowfish said:
Just gonna put my opinion on my sleeve for a second and say that if you're reading this kind of shit and you're not a minor yourself, legal or not, you might wanna seek some help, or at the very least go meet some older women.

^This

OP, you sick fuck. Go get some help.

And that is your own opinion, Keep it to yourself rather than denouncing others only because you don't approve of it.

This is a message board. I can state my negative opinion if I choose to, regardless of whether you, OP, or anyone else gets butthurt over my comment.
According to your logic, you should keep your opinion of my opinion to yourself. Since opinions aren't "welcome" here, and you don't "approve" of mine (like I give a damn).

Seriously, whether I "denounce" the sick fuckers ITT should be irrelevant to you anyway. Unless, of course, you're one of them.



But agreed to faulty logic. Just because your attracted to older women doesn't mean you can't be a pedophile.

There plenty of people under the age of 18 who look an act like the general conception of people over 18. But having sex with them will still get you registered as a sex offender.

and there are people who are over 18 but look and act like people under 18, but having sex with them is perfectly legal.

ontop that I 100% guarantee any one who's gone through puberty has had sexual thoughts about a minor.
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Alright I think after 4 pages of continuous quoting and complaining I think I'll make a guest appearance here., so without further adieu lets start with people implying I'm using facts. At no point did I present anything in a factual manner. This has all been my opinion, which still stands. I still think you guys a freaks and you guys have issues, serious issues that you should seek help for, someone had to be the one to say it.

I the end I know that some of you sill read this and carry on with your day, but many of you will not. Many of you will continue to carry on for another 4 pages, so see you guys on page 8.
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Alright I think after 4 pages of continuous quoting and complaining I think I'll make a guest appearance here., so without further adieu lets start with people implying I'm using facts. At no point did I present anything in a factual manner. This has all been my opinion, which still stands. I still think you guys a freaks and you guys have issues, serious issues that you should seek help for, someone had to be the one to say it.

I the end I know that some of you sill read this and carry on with your day, but many of you will not. Many of you will continue to carry on for another 4 pages, so see you guys on page 8.

There is a difference between things that are subjective and things are objective.

"Needing to seek help" is objective in a way that you only need to seek help if something is actually harmful to you.
"Healthy" is also objective, you can't have opinions on what is healthy and what is not healthy.

Thus it can be assumed you stated "facts", without backing those "facts" up with proof.

Ofcourse, considering them freaks is a opinion, But that is the same thing as calling all naruto fans "retards". Or calling all moe fans "neckbeards".

We weren't discussing "your post" for 4 pages, you're not as special and awesome as you think you are.
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rederoin said:
DrunkenBlowfish said:
Alright I think after 4 pages of continuous quoting and complaining I think I'll make a guest appearance here., so without further adieu lets start with people implying I'm using facts. At no point did I present anything in a factual manner. This has all been my opinion, which still stands. I still think you guys a freaks and you guys have issues, serious issues that you should seek help for, someone had to be the one to say it.

I the end I know that some of you sill read this and carry on with your day, but many of you will not. Many of you will continue to carry on for another 4 pages, so see you guys on page 8.

There is a difference between things that are subjective and things are objective.

"Needing to seek help" is objective in a way that you only need to seek help if something is actually harmful to you.
"Healthy" is also objective, you can't have opinions on what is healthy and what is not healthy.

Thus it can be assumed you stated "facts", without backing those "facts" up with proof.

Ofcourse, considering them freaks is a opinion, But that is the same thing as calling all naruto fans "retards". Or calling all moe fans "neckbeards".

We weren't discussing "your post" for 4 pages, you're not as special and awesome as you think you are.
Just ignore him.

He pretty much said he wont reply until page 8 if it even goes that far. He's nothing but a sad troll that runs away from debates/arguments. Just look at what he added on his sig after the first two pages lol.

Ironically, he needs help himself if he can't properly argue with people and instead runs away.
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This basically sums up the answer:

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^Please read this! It's probably the most helpful answer I've found on the internet.
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so many posts for a problem that can be solved with either yes or no.
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Yvese said:
rederoin said:
DrunkenBlowfish said:
Alright I think after 4 pages of continuous quoting and complaining I think I'll make a guest appearance here., so without further adieu lets start with people implying I'm using facts. At no point did I present anything in a factual manner. This has all been my opinion, which still stands. I still think you guys a freaks and you guys have issues, serious issues that you should seek help for, someone had to be the one to say it.

I the end I know that some of you sill read this and carry on with your day, but many of you will not. Many of you will continue to carry on for another 4 pages, so see you guys on page 8.

There is a difference between things that are subjective and things are objective.

"Needing to seek help" is objective in a way that you only need to seek help if something is actually harmful to you.
"Healthy" is also objective, you can't have opinions on what is healthy and what is not healthy.

Thus it can be assumed you stated "facts", without backing those "facts" up with proof.

Ofcourse, considering them freaks is a opinion, But that is the same thing as calling all naruto fans "retards". Or calling all moe fans "neckbeards".

We weren't discussing "your post" for 4 pages, you're not as special and awesome as you think you are.
Just ignore him.

He pretty much said he wont reply until page 8 if it even goes that far. He's nothing but a sad troll that runs away from debates/arguments. Just look at what he added on his sig after the first two pages lol.

Ironically, he needs help himself if he can't properly argue with people and instead runs away.

Don't bait him.
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Obligatory. Also, thread related somewhat because it's a loli.
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I don't understand loli porn, or child porn for that matter, in the slightest, but be yourself. I guess. It would be very difficult for me to take someone who's into it seriously, but I would try my best.
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I don't understand loli porn, or child porn for that matter, in the slightest, but be yourself. I guess. It would be very difficult for me to take someone who's into it seriously, but I would try my best.


I won't try my best.

This thread isn't about whether it's legal or not, it's about who's right. Nobody is listening to what the other has to say.

Have fun trolling people!
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How do you expect a thread about loli hentai to progress? For the record though, I don't think I'm right. I think I have an opinion and so I stated it.
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Post-Josh said:
I don't understand loli porn, or child porn for that matter, in the slightest, but be yourself. I guess. It would be very difficult for me to take someone who's into it seriously, but I would try my best.

Different people like different things; you just come to accept it.
This thread however is doing the opposite.
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40 years old and 12 that's Fucked up who writes this shit!!
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I don't understand loli porn, or child porn for that matter, in the slightest, but be yourself. I guess. It would be very difficult for me to take someone who's into it seriously, but I would try my best.

Different people like different things; you just come to accept it.
This thread however is doing the opposite.

If only it were that simple. Everyone develops their own sense of what is wrong/what is right, and it's difficult to accept things that are in stark contrast to your "moral code" or whatever. And yes, being sexually attracted to lolis (which are ultimately a depiction of underage girls) is something I find questionable. It's easy for people to say "I'm open to everything, blah blah.", but I'm extremely skeptical that, when put into practice, anyone actually is.

I would never condone physical, or verbal, abuse based on someone's sexual interests, but people with abnormal interests also must accept that they will be scrutinized and discriminated against. It's unrealistic to expect that everyone will train themselves to give people with abnormal fetishes equal treatment, it's just not going to happen.

Edit: I don't mean abnormal in a positive or negative way, I just mean differing from the norm.
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Just in wonder what is Loli??

Is some kind of new laught abrevation? [ i am not trying to be funny or troll ]
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Just in wonder what is Loli??

Is some kind of new laught abrevation? [ i am not trying to be funny or troll ]

google.

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OhNasti said:
Just in wonder what is Loli??

Is some kind of new laught abrevation? [ i am not trying to be funny or troll ]

google.


Read Lolita.
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This thread is hilarious.
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Some of you sound paranoid...

What are you doing that will cause the police to come into your home and look through your computer?

Even if you delete the stuff they can still "recover" it in most cases.

You're probably safe though, Just don't look at the stuff in public... if someone sees it over your shoulder or whatever you could get into some trouble. {Certainly if it's a cop or the FBI or that guy from "To Catch a Predator".}
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Post-Josh said:
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Post-Josh said:
I don't understand loli porn, or child porn for that matter, in the slightest, but be yourself. I guess. It would be very difficult for me to take someone who's into it seriously, but I would try my best.

Different people like different things; you just come to accept it.
This thread however is doing the opposite.

If only it were that simple. Everyone develops their own sense of what is wrong/what is right, and it's difficult to accept things that are in stark contrast to your "moral code" or whatever. And yes, being sexually attracted to lolis (which are ultimately a depiction of underage girls) is something I find questionable. It's easy for people to say "I'm open to everything, blah blah.", but I'm extremely skeptical that, when put into practice, anyone actually is.

I would never condone physical, or verbal, abuse based on someone's sexual interests, but people with abnormal interests also must accept that they will be scrutinized and discriminated against. It's unrealistic to expect that everyone will train themselves to give people with abnormal fetishes equal treatment, it's just not going to happen.

Edit: I don't mean abnormal in a positive or negative way, I just mean differing from the norm.

Actually I find it quite simple. I, not giving too many fucks, find it really easy to accept and believe what people like/say. That might classify me as naive but well, whatever. I know I myself am attracted to loli, but hey I'm a teen so it's legal for me. I know people attracted to Guro and while that doesn't interest me in the slightest, I'm okay with it. But hey, we're not talking about me, talking about people in general. Oh well.

So morale is, if you don't wanna get discriminated against and looked down upon, don't openly discuss your fetishes.
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OhNasti said:
Just in wonder what is Loli??

Is some kind of new laught abrevation? [ i am not trying to be funny or troll ]


Just append the two letters "ta" to that abbreviation and you got the word, which basically stands for sexually attractive minors or something.
Edit: Someone just told me that loli ≠ lolita, dammit. Anyway, it has something to do with minors and sexuality.


Post-Josh said:
I would never condone physical, or verbal, abuse based on someone's sexual interests, but people with abnormal interests also must accept that they will be scrutinized and discriminated against.


I know what you mean and I understand you, but what you say is basically why there are people opposing gay marriage: What is "abnormal"?

I mean, this case is rather clear, children are to be protected from sexual abuse and therefore no one should have the right to have sex with a minor against her own will, and five year olds cannot have that will. But that's not new, remove the word "minors" and you have the perfect description for a rape. Not really our topic anymore, but classifying sexual preferences as "abnormal" and "normal" is rather vague.

Back to the topic, I don't know whether it's legal or not (although I believe here in Germany it isn't), but the thing is, if someone gets attracted by children in a sexual way, then it's still better he watches that so-called lolicon stuff rather than real child porn (which certainly is a crime) or even actually abuses children (which is an even worse crime and the reason why real child porn does actually exist). Of course I'm not implying that anyone here would ever do such a thing, it's just why I personally wouldn't outlaw it.

However it is questionable in a moralistic sense, highly even, so I suggest you (and I mean all of you who like lolicon) keep it for yourself. And maybe think about it, are a few of those pages really worh the legal risks they possibly bear?

Edit2:
Dunno, it's disgusting though.

pretty much summarizes my own opinion on that.
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Actually I find it quite simple. I, not giving too many fucks, find it really easy to accept and believe what people like/say.

I know that "not giving a fuck" is cool these days and I joke about it as well, but it's not a real thing. You can't not care about anything, nor should you pretend to.

VikingGe said:
I know what you mean and I understand you, but what you say is basically why there are people opposing gay marriage: What is "abnormal"?

I mean, this case is rather clear, children are to be protected from sexual abuse and therefore no one should have the right to have sex with a minor against her own will, and five year olds cannot have that will. But that's not new, remove the word "minors" and you have the perfect description for a rape. Not really our topic anymore, but classifying sexual preferences as "abnormal" and "normal" is rather vague.

I wrote what I meant by abnormal in my post, not the norm. Yes, that's basically why some people oppose gay marriage. Obviously opinions are changing as more and more people realize that being gay is actually common, but more importantly that there are no strong negative implications. It's a lot harder to convince someone that there are no strong negative implications for being attracted to children.

I suppose normal is generally accepted, abnormal is not.
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@Josh makes me sad to call myself Canadian.
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Yes it id but its like piracy, you basically need to be a idiot to get caught

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Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

tokiyashiro said:

Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

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Dunno, it's disgusting though.
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Post-Josh said:
CrimsonLight said:
Actually I find it quite simple. I, not giving too many fucks, find it really easy to accept and believe what people like/say.

I know that "not giving a fuck" is cool these days and I joke about it as well, but it's not a real thing. You can't not care about anything, nor should you pretend to.

No, I am not trying to say I'm a G. I'm just saying I care less than most people out there would about situations. Sorry if you misinterpreted that. That's just how it is.
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DrunkenBlowfish said:
Just gonna put my opinion on my sleeve for a second and say that if you're reading this kind of shit and you're not a minor yourself, legal or not, you might wanna seek some help, or at the very least go meet some older women.


What an insightful comment, full of openminded vision.
Then, if you play GTA, you surely are a restrained robber/killer, amirite ? /facepalm

@OP yes, the light of Tsukiminithing manor is definately obscene, no doubt about this.

But it's a manga, not pictures of naked babies, so you should be fine.

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