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Simple + Decent + Action = Success

Numbers. The big three do big ass numbers. They have been workhorses for WSJ and have brought in tons of money for their franchises. In most parts of the world making a lot of money is one way(Not only or maybe not the best) to measure success.

One Piece - I haven't read it, but from what I've heard it's awesome and deserves its status. The only reason I'm not reading it is that it's too long.
Naruto - Started off great, then decayed to the utter shit we have today. imo, there's just something jarring between Part 1 and Part 2.
Bleach - SS Arc was good, then it turned to shit after that. It's only good for trolls now, but it's been getting better (people are actually getting killed *gasp*).

It's because they're big. Everyone knows about them, they're easy to get into and simply fun to watch(full of action at times). After that many episodes, you don't really want to stop.

Hello people, can we please stop continuing this conversation wich is not gonna change nobody.

Thank you.

Its Battle-Shonens and Battle-Shonens are awesome.

super powers, adventure, battles, more super powers, nakama punches, more battles, power ups. characters that you can get attached to, characters you can hate with your entire being.

ITS LONG, SO MANY YEARS. SO MUCH AWESOMENESS.

They are not the Big Three

You know, while what you just said is true in a way I think its fairly obvious he is asking what made them make so much money in the first place..



Yes they are. That is what we call them. Deal with it.

I like One Piece, Cause of its consistenancy, I do hate the long recaps for those major event episodes. But overall the show flows well and is done well.

Naruto and Bleach had to many fillers that just didn't add to the experience, Only when Ichigo finally lost his powers did I get interested again.

Naruto once its back on track the show is good.

But Maybe the manga is different as I hear that it is so. So maybe I will read bleach when I have time.

They never were great and probably never will be. Badly writing, clliche, childish and formulaic or repetitive.

Naruto and OP are enjoyable, but both haven't been as fun lately..
Bleach is eh...didn't even see anything great in the SS arc people talk so much about.

If i'd rank them It'd be
1) Naruto part 1
2) OP
3) Naruto part 2
4) Bleach

It's more like because they're popular, hence the name "big 3", well that's what it think, if they were the best then they'd probably be called Top 3 or something instead:P

as for what I think about them, One piece is as what most people say, long and I don't really want to pick it up. Bleach was pretty good though the fillers started making me get bored and I just didn't feel like continuing so i just put it on hold. As for Naruto, if it wasn't for the fillers and the flashbacks then i'd say it's actually a pretty good anime, especially now when it's getting to its "best" part. though the fillers and flashbacks do irritate me

what proof have you got too call them thus sales Figues tv Ratings Merch sales figures not nothing to back up use of a n Unsubstantiated Use of words

Bleach

Anyone who has paid any attention to the quality of his show knows that it's been down hill since the end of Soul Society arc. It's a know fact. Even today people that say Bleach sucks usually mention that they loved the show up to that point. So what made it loose popularity after that? Repeating the same storyline in a slightlly different fashion.

And Bleach manga sales have dropped alot during the reacent years so i'm pretty sure that's what happened to the anime as well.

But what made Bleach so good in the beginning then?
I'd say back then it was the main character Ichigo. He wasn't a crying emo kid that everyone knows he is today. Arrogant, dumb but in a kiddy way like his competitors Naruto and Luffy. He acted more laid back then the other 2 and that's the biggest difference when i compare the main characters. Also Ichigo shared great chemistry with the leading female at the time Kuchiki Rukia. Those two just worked together. Witch is sad that after the SS arc they tried to have the same impact with different characters and that just did not work.


Other then that there was humour that was funny and a dark atmosphere, the story being about demon like creatures devouring human souls.

But in the end after the SS arc ended the repeativenes of the story and including way too many characters (everyone one step stronger then the rest) started eating away at the quality and the fanbase.

In the end i would still recommend to anyone to check out the first 63 episodes of the anime. During that time i would have happily given it an 8/10 but sadly after 300 or so episodes it has fallen so much so 3.5/10 is best i could give it


Naruto

With this one i still think that the first Naruto series before Shippuuden is awesome. I dont count the +100 filler they trew in there cause they included them after the Narutos actual story was completed (that was continued with shippuuden) so in the first 135 episodes of Naruto there really weren't that many fillers at all. in the end of every story arc there might have been 1 or 2 and there is one filler arc i remember but even that was about 5 episodes long.

So for me the fillers that made the fanbase cry and rage so much are nowdays so easily skipable that i really dont think they drag the series down that much.

So in the early days of Naruto they had this thing called tactics. (no i'm dead serious) The show that was about ninjas actually felt that it was about ninjas. Ninjas with magic powers but that's not relevant! Not every fight was won by who has the bigger hair or random powerups or Nakama power. Every fight was well thought out and the best ones just felt epic. This was accompanied by and awesome soundtrack and great fight animation so as for a shounen series to have those things right you have atleast a deacent shounen show.

What made it great for me back then was that it had a very large, but fleshed out cast of characters.

Everyone of those characters had "their moment" in the anime that made you rethink how you felt about them. Even characters that have been totally annoying and pointles had their moment to shine and just one fight made me change my opinion of some of the characters.

The story department in Naruto(not shippuuden) wasn't anything amazing but it worked well.

But when you go into Shippuuden you might notice that because everyone should always get stronger cause that's the shounen way, the powers became very not ninja like... Latest powerups are making the fights more DBZ like, but i think Shippuuden still has it's moments.

One Piece
The best of the 3. Mainly i'd say because it's the only show that's kept the quality up in the later parts of the story in a way that Naruto and definitely Bleach could not achieve.

Even though the anime is getting weaker and weaker because it's so close to the manga that they stall in every episode, instead of going for a break or adding fillers, the manga is still going strong and after the boring fishman arc, the new arc that's going on right now is indeed awesome once again.

I don't wanna go to detail with this one so i'll just say that it's just awesome.

I think in few years or so Bleach will be replaced in the big 3 by Fairy Tail
well Bleach anime got cancelled and the manga is supposed to end when the latest arc ends.



They have been called the big 3 for a long time now because they have been running for a long time together and been the best selling 3 series of their time even though Dragon Ball is the best selling manga ever it did not run at the same time as these 3. Common anime knowledge. Why so mad?

They appeal to a wide range in audience and are easy to understand, therefore a lot of people watch them. This doesn't make them great however.

The average MAL user does not appreciate sale figures.What he does appreciate is a good story and art in general.The best artists died poor

Let me correct the term, it should be "Weekly Shonen Jump's Big Three" but people calls them the big 3 because it's shorter. As for the reasons, they sell a lot, OP sells more than 2,000,000 copies with each new volume. Naruto sell around 1,000,000 copies with each new volume. Bleach sell more than 600,000 copies with each new volume, which is still considered one of the 3 manga that sell the most in WSJ, its big 3 in other words.

thats is the US Fans Only like Jump not stuff like sunday or Champion or Gan Gan

It is a name used to talk about 3 separate anime in one. Not a statement of a fact. For goodness sake, think a bit.

Also.. They are the only 3 anime in MALS top 30 for popularity still airing(well, bleach has stopped for now, and maybe permanently. Time will tell?). There is one reason to call them the big 3.

They are the only 3 anime over 100(70, even..) still airing in MALs top 30 popularity wise. Another reason. By the way, this is MAL. Not Japan. So when you come back and say all these things about sales in Japan and such, know that I do not care about those things. They are not what everyone uses to judge the value of an anime.

sorry but who's the author who's still coming up with how to end his manga? who's the author that draws chapters equivalent to 2min in an episode each? who's the author that forgets about characters? which is the manga that is full of plotholes?
get back to your cave