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08-14-12, 4:55 AM

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So basically the arcs are happening in reverse order?
 
08-14-12, 5:05 AM

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So basically the arcs are happening in reverse order?
isn't that interesting? lol
 
08-14-12, 7:03 AM

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Another possibility and I think the easiest answer is that Ms. Sweets is delusional. the only person who has even been around fairies seems to be assistant and he can;t talk so he wouldn’t say anything to this girl. She has delusions of grandeur that she’s working for United Nations as a mediator. She even started out this episode just eating a bunch of candy and this whole episode has been a sugar high. how about that for being kind of dark Ms. Sweets? Really though I hope the fairies are real. She has stated that not everyone can see them and maybe that’s true. But right now, she just seems kind of crazy for the most part. But you’d be kind of crazy too if you had to watch over semi-omnipotent beings that could control the very fabric of space-time.
To answer you shortly is not the OP showing her rather INSANE at one point in a room with loads of them around her? I though that was the best proof of her going wacko!

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08-14-12, 3:28 PM

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More Watashi is always a good thing.
 
08-14-12, 6:29 PM

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Am I the only one who think all the dogs in the end are the time-slip Watashis and the ball the fairies was playing around is a head. (gulp)
 
08-14-12, 7:10 PM

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I was so mindfucked I skimmed the last third of the episode.




 
08-14-12, 8:36 PM

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Am I the only one who think all the dogs in the end are the time-slip Watashis and the ball the fairies was playing around is a head. (gulp)

Not at all, that very much looked like a (fairy) head. And sounded as one, for that matter.
As for the dogs, they do show at the very beginning Watashi seeing a dog turning into a human-like figure for a moment that resembles her. Whether that was a mirage, hallucination or a real thing, we can't be sure.


I just remembered one thing: the first time Watashi goes to pick the assistant up, she looks at the watch and says it's 12:40, then meets a fairy who gives her a banana, spots the fairies 'playing football' and the next moment meets her grandfather who says it's already 13:40. Now, of course it could be that she just couldn't tell the time correctly from that sun watch. But, if that's not the case, what happened during that hour? Probably the same as whenever she ate a banana.
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08-15-12, 12:00 AM

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Hmmm .. weird...
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08-15-12, 8:14 AM

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Definitely a parody of the scenes found in anime that involved time travel.
 
08-15-12, 8:32 AM

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I just came here to let all of you know that you minna are losing a lot of my fantastic theories and conclusions for not know how to read portuguese.
I'm too lazy to translate into english

Have a nice day.

btw: www.subeteanimes.com , http://forum.subeteanimes.com
 
08-15-12, 9:22 AM

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Did you guys notice that the sun is always bright in intensity, even when inside the forest?

Like... it's too convenient because Watashi has a wrist sundial.
 
08-15-12, 9:49 AM

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Did you guys notice that the sun is always bright in intensity, even when inside the forest?

Like... it's too convenient because Watashi has a wrist sundial.

It's not a natural forest - Watashi even once or twice comments about how odd it appears, such as the evenly spaced and uniform trees, etc.

Right now my working assumption is that these 'fairies' share some traits with those of traditional ancient Celtic stories. In this case, Watashi has been spirited (multiple times) into an Otherworld location controlled by the fairies, much like could happen to travelers of many of the Celtic tales.
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08-15-12, 10:40 AM

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How strangely unsettling this all managed to be. I loved the banana that managed to make her slip just from eating it though. But the rest, from creepy possibly morphing dogs to playing kick the head, I half expect Watashi to just freak out and start popping off fairy skulls.
 
08-15-12, 11:00 AM

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After watching this episode, i now wonder if the assistant is someone who she intentionally or unintentionally due to the fairies time manipulation twisted the essence of to meet her own ideology. Throughout the episode she seemed quite anxious on knowing what kind of person the assistant was and somehow knew he whore Hawaiian shirts. When i think about it unless there's an explanation next episode, the assistant, who's supposedly meant to assist Watashi's grandpa has had very little interaction with him in past episodes that chronologically proceed this arc. Infact, Watashi is the only one who can apparently communicate with him.


Its been interesting to read the discussion this episode has brought and once again i cant wait for next weeks ep.
 
08-15-12, 5:54 PM

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jasque said:
Did you guys notice that the sun is always bright in intensity, even when inside the forest?

Like... it's too convenient because Watashi has a wrist sundial.


Eu notei e refleti enquanto assistia Jasque e vou te adiantar o que vou escrever no Subete.

Em primeiro lugar uma iluminação diferente denota/denuncia uma realidade diferente, alterada. Foi dito que ela entrou no reino das fadas e tem muitos significados nisso tudo. Em primeiro lugar lembre, o reino das fadas tem um tempo diferenciado, o tempo parece não passar lá, entretanto quando você volta para o mundo normal muito tempo se passou.
Mas o que eu quero apontar é a associação entre o Tempo, o Sol e o Relógio.
A partir do momento em que as fadas começaram a manipular o tempo, sempre levando a Watashi para cinco minutos no passado a iluminação muda. O que ilumina aquele mundo? O Sol. O que mede a hora? O Relógio, no caso o relógio solar. Vê? Como a Watashi poderia medir o tempo através do Sol se ele era controlado pelas fadas?

O episódio brincou muito com isso, com a noção de continuidade e progressão reversa do tempo. De certo modo a Watashi estava vendo as horas corretamente, medindo as horas consideradas pelas fadas. O relógio mostrava o tempo correto lá no reino das fadas, e ele estranhamente seguia para frente.
O que determina o passar do tempo? O tempo em si ou a continuidade dos eventos? Para as pessoas é a progressão dos eventos que serve de referência para a passagem do tempo, porque medir o tempo é muito difícil, não é algo fácil de compreender e determinar, é preciso de referências. Então você vê, o tempo sempre seguir para trás, sempre um pouco mais para trás, e os eventos tinham continuidade. No meio dos loops a Watashi pede um relógio para o Avô e ele vê que ela já está com ele. Ela apenas não prestou atenção que já tinha pedido o relógio, não foi um erro do tempo, foi um erro dela, ela lembrava que tinha pedido e pegado o relógio, tanto que entendeu a confusão do Avô, ela apenas se esqueceu disso na hora, mas o pedido e o recebimento do relógio já tinha acontecido, então podemos dizer que o tempo voltou realmente? Ou ele continuou caminhando para a frente?
No reino das fadas a Watashi sempre se encontrava com outra ela, e lembrando dos encontros anteriores ela evitava fazer as mesmas perguntas e falar as mesmas coisas, procurava sempre informações novas. Isso não criava uma continuidade na conversa entre elas? O mesmo para a doutora. A cada vez que a Watashi voltava um pouco mais no tempo, elas tinham mais tempo para conversar, e por isso a doutora falava mais para ela sobre o Assistente. Assim a conversa ia ficando cada vez mais detalhada, o diálogo ia crescendo e se aprofundando. Continuidade.

Não é fantástico?
 
08-15-12, 6:15 PM

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PaninaManina said:
Eu notei e refleti enquanto assistia Jasque e vou te adiantar o que vou escrever no Subete.
Erm, what he said ;)

(Portuguese? I remember just enough Spanish to realize it wasn't quite Spanish, but in any case google Translate is an amazing thing)


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Não é fantástico?
Yes, it is! :)
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08-15-12, 6:26 PM

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Cratex said:
PaninaManina said:
Eu notei e refleti enquanto assistia Jasque e vou te adiantar o que vou escrever no Subete.
Erm, what he said ;)

(Portuguese? I remember just enough Spanish to realize it wasn't quite Spanish, but in any case google Translate is an amazing thing)

Yes, specifically brazillian.
Sorry for this, its exhausting translate something this long.

- I basically talk about how the episode plays with the Sun be our greatest reference in nature of the passage of time.
- Watashi with a sundial trying to measure passage of time with something that fairies control.
- And especially as, despite the time walking back, the events had continuity. And do not is the continuity of events that determines the passage of time?
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08-15-12, 7:13 PM

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PaninaManina said:


Não é fantástico?




Thanks \o

And sorry to the rest about our 'brazilian spanish' ^^
 
08-16-12, 12:25 AM

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fucking trolling ass fairies! shocked that not one of those Watashi had a change in personality lol
 
08-16-12, 3:49 AM

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Another funny thing that we can do alongside with watching Jinrui is seeing the discussion thread. We can clearly identify every person personality (and intelligence?) with how they see this episode, lol.
 
08-16-12, 3:54 AM

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Watashi is so cute...
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08-16-12, 5:18 AM

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PaninaManina said:

Yes, specifically brazillian.
Sorry for this, its exhausting translate something this long.

Not a problem - your English is far better than my brazillian ;)

And I was able to get the basic message through Google Translate.
 
08-17-12, 1:00 AM

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The timeloops were pretty annoying. -___- How many times do one have to see the same scenes over and over again just to get story going?
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08-17-12, 8:46 AM

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It kind of a Mindf*ck episode...

If the episodes are made out of order... I think this is supposed to take amoung



The banana scenes were creepy in a sense that I kept on thinking wrong about it, since some were 'models' and had 'no flavor'. Especially when they focused on the decapitated fairy head I REALLY began to question the banana. But it turns it that the banana is of an unknown fruit due to being the creation of the fairys. Therefore I asume that those bananas weren't really bananas.

Strange episode.... overall I love this show, but this episode made me give Episode 7 a 3.5 rating. It's not surprising though, this show is meant to be avant-garde, or too clever for it's own good. Eitherway, I favorite this show because it's new and unique different from any other I have seen this summer.
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08-17-12, 9:42 AM

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This episode actually made me think about Watashi and the story a lot. I realised several things: Watashi is the only one known to be able to and seen talking to fairies. It was already mentioned here that she might be simply imagining that. I also realised that she talks in a... somehow weird way, way too formal and she throws a lot of information and complicated words randomly. And I was thinking, isn't that a way child might imagine an adult talking? On the other hand, fairies are A LOT like children, they tend to repeat stuff, do what they like not thinking of consequences and they eat sweets a lot. They also seem to be able to create objects and areas just like that (child's imagination). So, what if Watashi is just a little autistic kid living in her own world with her own imaginary friends who is taken care of by her grand father? Fairies are basically her real self while Watashi is simply her imagination of what she would be like when she grows up. She talks to the fairies the only way she knows, like people talk to her (giving her lessons about doing selfish stuff etc).

You can see that she described herself and slender and elegant, that sounded to me more like someone was imagining their ideal older self than character description. She didn't say she looked like me, or that she was similar. To me it was as if this episode showed us that Watashi wasn't real "watashi" (=I) but more like ideal older "watashi". The real "watashi" are the fairies who seem to express and act upon her real needs and wishes. Notice how she wasn't surprised or shocked by the forest, she just noted it (that it wasn't real). That looked to me more like a kid imagining her own world with what he wanted, her making sweets for herself to eat. Interestingly, her grandfather ALWAYS showed up when she started doing it (maybe to tell her not to). In the end there were multiple Watashi what could be explained that her grandfather gave up and decided to help her with sweets what she imagined as her doing.

Watashi in our story is old enough to wonder about these stuff but she never does. She simply goes along with it. I think I might go back and rewatch all episodes to see how they fit into this.

About the assistant. I was thinking, we don't know his name, he can't talk we just know that wherever Watashi goes, assistant goes with her. Like a dog. What if he is really a dog but Watashi included him in her fantasies like a human? That explains why only her can tell what he thinks. This actually explains the thing about his t-shirt. Why? Grandfather decided she should get a friend, since she was lonely and told her they would go pick it up (in the end he went with her). But she wanted to cook sweets etc. He kept showing her pictures or various dogs (dogs in this episode) but she wasn't interested in them (she never paid attention to them and they all look the same). In the end, when he decided to help her cook sweets, she asked him what kind of dog it was. He told her that she can pick whichever she likes (how they told her it depends on her) and she said what kind of coat(=t-shirt) she wanted it to have. Did you notice how she found him in the middle of those dogs playing with them? He was just a little puppy she NOTICED (all the dogs look the same only the assistant doesn't) and she liked him to they bought him. In order not to feel alone, she imagined he was a real human who couldn't talk but she knew what he was thinking.

This theory actually explains everything (she heard of the probes probably from her grand father so she created a story in which she helped them not to feel alone, etc.). However, this theory is actually very sad. Her grand father is taking care of a mentally ill child without any help (no mention of grandmother or her parents). Either her real parents died or they didn't want to care about her because of her illness. :-(
 
08-17-12, 11:32 AM

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The banana! Reminds me of the gel-banana in Steins;Gate.

The banana is used as a catalyst to travel back in time! Ahahaha.

It felt like I was watching a broken record with all of the scenes repeating.
 
08-17-12, 3:02 PM

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HikaruIzumi said:
This theory actually explains everything (she heard of the probes probably from her grand father so she created a story in which she helped them not to feel alone, etc.). However, this theory is actually very sad. Her grand father is taking care of a mentally ill child without any help (no mention of grandmother or her parents). Either her real parents died or they didn't want to care about her because of her illness. :-(
The thing to ask about this line of reasoning is, is it that she seems basically happy even though she is psychotic, or is it that being psychotic is what makes her seem basically happy?

I'm still assuming the fairies are real and Watashi just has a high tolerance for the Unusual, but your reasoning seems reasonable as well :)
 
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The thing to ask about this line of reasoning is, is it that she seems basically happy even though she is psychotic, or is it that being psychotic is what makes her seem basically happy?

Well, she lives in her ideal world so she has no reason to be sad quite the contrary (if you notice, there was never anything that would make her truly sad, another point to prove my theory). So, yeah, she's happy because she's psychotic.
 
08-17-12, 7:23 PM

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Fiji said:
The banana! Reminds me of the gel-banana in Steins;Gate.

The banana is used as a catalyst to travel back in time! Ahahaha.

It felt like I was watching a broken record with all of the scenes repeating.


BEST DISSCUSION QUOTE EVER!!! =D God, your comment was the best thing ever in this disscusion!!!! Thank you so much man, your comment just made my day. =)
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08-17-12, 7:33 PM

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HikaruIzumi said:

Well, she lives in her ideal world so she has no reason to be sad quite the contrary (if you notice, there was never anything that would make her truly sad, another point to prove my theory). So, yeah, she's happy because she's psychotic.
Works for me!
 
08-18-12, 7:01 AM

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The timeloops were pretty annoying. -___- How many times do one have to see the same scenes over and over again just to get story going?


"Same" scenes. Ok.
 
08-18-12, 7:10 AM

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HikaruIzumi said:
This episode actually made me think about Watashi and the story a lot. I realised several things: Watashi is the only one known to be able to and seen talking to fairies. It was already mentioned here that she might be simply imagining that. I also realised that she talks in a... somehow weird way, way too formal and she throws a lot of information and complicated words randomly. And I was thinking, isn't that a way child might imagine an adult talking? On the other hand, fairies are A LOT like children, they tend to repeat stuff, do what they like not thinking of consequences and they eat sweets a lot. They also seem to be able to create objects and areas just like that (child's imagination). So, what if Watashi is just a little autistic kid living in her own world with her own imaginary friends who is taken care of by her grand father? Fairies are basically her real self while Watashi is simply her imagination of what she would be like when she grows up. She talks to the fairies the only way she knows, like people talk to her (giving her lessons about doing selfish stuff etc).



HikaruIzumi said:
You can see that she described herself and slender and elegant, that sounded to me more like someone was imagining their ideal older self than character description. She didn't say she looked like me, or that she was similar. To me it was as if this episode showed us that Watashi wasn't real "watashi" (=I) but more like ideal older "watashi". The real "watashi" are the fairies who seem to express and act upon her real needs and wishes. Notice how she wasn't surprised or shocked by the forest, she just noted it (that it wasn't real). That looked to me more like a kid imagining her own world with what he wanted, her making sweets for herself to eat. Interestingly, her grandfather ALWAYS showed up when she started doing it (maybe to tell her not to). In the end there were multiple Watashi what could be explained that her grandfather gave up and decided to help her with sweets what she imagined as her doing.

Watashi in our story is old enough to wonder about these stuff but she never does. She simply goes along with it. I think I might go back and rewatch all episodes to see how they fit into this.



HikaruIzumi said:
About the assistant. I was thinking, we don't know his name, he can't talk we just know that wherever Watashi goes, assistant goes with her. Like a dog. What if he is really a dog but Watashi included him in her fantasies like a human? That explains why only her can tell what he thinks. This actually explains the thing about his t-shirt. Why? Grandfather decided she should get a friend, since she was lonely and told her they would go pick it up (in the end he went with her). But she wanted to cook sweets etc. He kept showing her pictures or various dogs (dogs in this episode) but she wasn't interested in them (she never paid attention to them and they all look the same). In the end, when he decided to help her cook sweets, she asked him what kind of dog it was. He told her that she can pick whichever she likes (how they told her it depends on her) and she said what kind of coat(=t-shirt) she wanted it to have. Did you notice how she found him in the middle of those dogs playing with them? He was just a little puppy she NOTICED (all the dogs look the same only the assistant doesn't) and she liked him to they bought him. In order not to feel alone, she imagined he was a real human who couldn't talk but she knew what he was thinking.

This theory actually explains everything (she heard of the probes probably from her grand father so she created a story in which she helped them not to feel alone, etc.). However, this theory is actually very sad. Her grand father is taking care of a mentally ill child without any help (no mention of grandmother or her parents). Either her real parents died or they didn't want to care about her because of her illness. :-(

I think we're all concerned about Watashi's mental health and therefore we began to think she might be insane. It can not be true, however Jinrui still leaves room for this kind of critical philosophical interpretation, and all of them I choose to believe in your explanation of not-facts.



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08-18-12, 7:36 AM

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Fiji said:
The banana! Reminds me of the gel-banana in Steins;Gate.

The banana is used as a catalyst to travel back in time! Ahahaha.

It felt like I was watching a broken record with all of the scenes repeating.


Just an addendum: there is a belief about food in faerie world.
One who enters in faerie world must care to NOT eat while in there. If you eat or drink while in faerie world, you fall under the magic and logic of faerie world and find yourself trap.
Consequences may vary, but one that always occur is disorientation and disconnection of time flow in outside/humans world.
 
08-19-12, 7:32 AM

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Soon...

"Being Watashi"

 
08-20-12, 8:33 AM

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Why, yes Watashi. Watashi is a bit dark. A very good episode, can't wait to see how the events unfold. It had me fooled, I thought this would be a one episode arc. Oh well, the homework of saving the chosen one is dangling right in front of your eyes Watashi, back to the mail! 5/5.
 
08-22-12, 2:05 PM

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Ohhh time loops, Endless Eight and Groundhog Day just because they want more candy? o_O

Some of the theories among the posts are very enlightening and quite disconcerting it made me anxious a bit...I want to remain in the happy land with the fairies! TT_TT Yes, they're creepy with that permanent smiles on their faces but I still find them cute, creepy and adorable all at the same time. Anyway either mankind has really declined and in the future are struggling to survive along the supernatural fairies as portrayed or... it's all in Watashi's head and she's taking us for a ride in her psychosis. x_X

I think I need my meds now. LOL
 
08-29-12, 9:26 PM

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W-What did I just watch???
 
09-01-12, 7:31 PM

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People have some excellent theories on this thread... looking forward to more info and more theories!
 
09-04-12, 8:37 AM

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I think I just found the best show of the year....
 
09-06-12, 10:36 AM

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So derp and confusing....what the hell did i just watch?
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09-13-12, 8:58 AM

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This episode solidified this show as one of my favourite anime ever. The directing and the use of soundtrack is just superb at creatng an unsettling and and mysterious atmsphere.
 
09-16-12, 1:45 AM

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The fairies wasn't allowed to clone her and thus they used time traveling lol
But whats with the dog?
And "Thank you not very much." xD
 
11-12-12, 2:53 AM

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Here have a banana that will clone you and send you back in time but you will slip over the peel anyway whatever you try!

Yep fun and great episode! Up to the next one!
 
12-09-12, 6:46 PM

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It's hilarious that the Fairies seemingly sent Watashi in a time loop just so they can have more candy and apparently perfect a banana.

Also, there are some pretty interesting theories in this thread. Especially the "Watashi is crazy" one. Never even thought of that.
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this anime is so random


 
03-09-13, 7:10 AM

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Whoa ... this episode was freaking epic but really confusing O_O
The fairies use a magic banana and make time paradoxes so there are hundreds of Watashi ... all just to make them sweets?! Crazy O_O The other ones also turn into dogs as well?! Lol wtf ... this is so mind trippy O_O
I thought it was really well done, especially with the watch and grandpa showing up and looking for the assistant ... how'd she know about the shirt though? Looks like again with non-chronological order since they're just meeting for the first time this episode ... we'll probably get an explanation next episode since it seems like they come in two-episode arcs ...
 
03-28-13, 12:53 PM

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I like Watashi's inner monologue.
Her personality is unique.

I just don't find the plot interesting.
 
08-21-13, 6:33 AM

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That was confusing, but also awesome.
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09-09-13, 10:38 AM

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For some reason, my mind is blown.

And it seems I'm watching a reverse order or something like that.

I have a sickness called gettingarousedbyhorieyui'svoice syndrome.
 
10-01-13, 3:06 PM

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What did I watch? Complete confusion, more Watashi, so many ^^.

 
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