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But Arashi asked you what about her opinion doesn't make sense, and you still haven't explained it aside from some petty insults.
Also, I think that her remark about taste was about old jokes not your manga taste.

Anyway, I don't agree with you this time, Arashi. While your opinion makes sense and I like your posts in these threads - you don't know how Kubo could handle those Zaraki's fights so I'am actually glad that we got this kinda quick, clever and badass explanation(maybe new anime series could expand on it a little).
Btw. Ichigo is in despair - I smell ass-pulled powerup for him. The same happened when he fought Byakuya ("Move! Move!") and when Ulq basically killed him("I can hear her voice" - or sth like that).

I just did, in my previous post. His opinion was mentioned in an edit, I've just noticed it. I might've also misunderstood the poor joke part, thanks for the notice.

Yes, you did. I am glad that it turned out this way and you didn't just end it with something like "you lack reading comprehension" x). But it was you who first threw names at her without reasons, while she is not your usual hater, she always explains her points.
Anyway, I am with you in this Kenpachi bit. It's exactly how I see it as well.

Btw. "his"? <checks> Oh, "male". Sorry, for mistake in previous posts Arashi, your nick confused me x).

His first post was just complaining (I'm also at fault though), but not that I care anymore, he did explain what he's trying to say, so I guess discussing now is better than going on with "I started it" "No you did"..etc.

That's what I'm hoping for. Some of Bleach's fights were handled way better in the anime than they were handled in the manga (Shuuhei vs Findor comes to mind) so they can expand Zaraki's fights a bit more and we'll get 3 better fights. Well let's hope for it.

i hope yamamoto kills that bear guy in one shot... or maybe give him a slow, painful death XD

Woooo, go kenpachi!

Finally the two monsters. Zaraki Kenpachi and Yama-jii!
I am pretty sure Yama-jii would win this one...
but Kenpachi might die though I hope he won't.

I think that Aizen was afraid to fight Kenpachi b/c his immense spirtual pressure would trump Kyoka Suigetsu just like Aizen's spiritual pressure made Soi Fon's Nigeki Kessatsu worthless against him.

Awesome set-up chapter:

- Kenpachi explanations were hilarious. Its hilarious that all three cases pretty much make fun of shonen genre tropes - overbulky transformations, ability exposition chapters and "fighting yourself" plot devices. Its nice to see that at least one out of the big three has some self-awareness about those things and its hilarious and so in-character for Kenpachi. Sadly I do not see Kenpachi handling himself too well in this...Most likely Yamaji will have to step in once he ends dealing with the stealer of Sasakibe's bankai.

- Ichigo scene is touching. AS FB arc has shown, Ichigo has a very unhealthy obsession of protecting. Ever since his mother's death he has a huge fear of being victimized and goes to horrible lengths to be the one protecting instead of the one protected. Its selfish and egoistic, but also beautiful in a way, as well as very human. Its how he deals with his inability to save his mother, with his own weakness. So this current situation has to be his most horrible nightmare, just like everyone turning against him was in FB arc and FB arc caused Ichigo to change a lot as a person(for one dumping the no-kill policy and maturing a lot, for example). I do wonder on how will his current situation be handled.

- Yamaji facing Sasakibe's killer is fitting. The Old Man will be able to get revenge and at the same time closure for his most trusted acomplice's death. I doubt his enemy will last long and its mainly to hype up Yamaji for his fight against quincy king, as he eventually has to save Kenpachi's ass, but still its bound to be awesome just like all of his previous fights.



Now let's not overhype. Kenpachi IS strong, but he is NOT stronger than Senior Captains, Yamaji, Aizen or Ichigo.
Aizen in his first form feared to fight Yamaji. In form that was finger-flicked by Isshin. In second the scales tipped.



Its the hypocrisy of hatred.

"baww ichigo is too strong fighting every battle" >> "Baww ichigo is too weak never gets to do anything"
"baww story is too slow" >> "baww story is too fast"
"baww why everyone uses bankais all the time" >> "baww why did they not use their bankais this time"
"baww why no one dies" >> "baww how dare they kill byakuya/ulquiorra/gin/insertfangirlbaitnamehere"

There's one thing in common with all those posts - no argumentation.
its best to just ignore those people.




Oh great more of argument-less bashing, now with a couple of cheerleaders. Seriously, get out.

So how would you like to explain situation of other captains? Stern Ritter caught a senior captain and took his eye (or at-least injured his face pretty badly). While a very well known and strong captain (at-least strong as much as kenpachi if not more) never even able to touch a single Stern Ritter and bite the dust, while Kanpachi took out three without breaking a sweat.

Also If he keep up with the boss until Yamaji or Ichigo come to help him. How would you like to explain that? After all these are all dangai level opponents, and boss should be even higher level.


What if he have a royal blood. Grandson of Soul King. Masaki eloped with Isshin and Soul King banned Isshin from Soul Society and took his powers etc but didn't do much because of the happiness of his daughter. Now I wonder if someone else come up with this theory before.


If Yamamoto spiritual pressure can't break Kyoka Suigetsu, how would Kenpachi do that? not to mention is it even possible with just high level Riatsu? Also don't forget kenpachi had pretty hard time against fifth espada. Aizen was the boss. They didn't confront each other, it's not like an arrogant guy like Aizen would afraid of anyone.

Kubo hinted in the new novels that he'll explain why Kenpachi is growing stronger at a frightening speed.

I'm sure there are others who thought about it, I did too. It's either that or she's a Fullbringer.

Not only that, there's a very simple answer to that: Nobody in the Stern Ritter have the same fighting capacity.
People assume that they are all as strong, all as fast but it's likely not the case.

Byakuya not been able to touch a stern ritter while kenpachi taking out three need some hell of an explaination. Kuchiki clan is one of the the nobel houses in Soul Society. That alone makes him special. Not to mention he was not some cheap captain who supposed to rely completely on his bankai and just because they stole it, he became useless. The only reason i can understand is that Stern Ritters are just too dam strong, BUT Kenpachi taking out three like trash is something like he got DBangai level training in closed space before joining this war.


Seriously? Was not they all supposed to be strong? I mean we're not talking about one guy but three.. and they have title and name just like others? How do you know those guys were very weak? while other unknown ones are too strong?

As I said, Kubo hinted there's gonna be an explanation why Kenpachi is too strong, we hardly know anything about him and his past, we just know he was a homeless who met Yachiru in a place where there was lots of bloodshed, we know nothing more. There's another thing, why does Kenpachi and Ichigo's Zanpakuto maintain their Shikai form? I know the basic explanation, but why only those 2? I think there's a connection between them somehow, not as relatives but as powers. They're also both growing stronger at a great speed. So we'll likely hear explanations about Ichigo and Kenpachi in this arc.

^pretty much this.

We do not even know Kenpachi's real name and there's supposedly a lot of "awesome things" for Kenpachi in this arc.

I'm not saying that they are very weak but that Kenpachi was conveniently matched with people he could defeat.
Just like the captains of SS aren't all on the same level I beleive that it's the case for the Stern Ritter.

Zaraki does not maintain shikai, as far as I remember his sword is totally unreleased, basically the state it is in when a shinigami first got his sword, before they even learn shikai.

Zaraki doesn't know the name of his zanpakutou, which is the ultimate requirement to learn shikai, even Ichigo had to go with this.
Zaraki doesn't want to work with his zan because he beleive only in his strenght

The thing that make people think that his sword is in shikai is that his sword seem rigged but that's pretty much to show how bad his reiatsu conflict with his zanpakuto's, he doesn't want to fight together with his sword so they both get in each other's way. The whole deal with Ichigo and Zaraki in SS was to show a match about someone that fight alongside his sword (Ichigo) and one that does not (Zaraki), this match would lose it's purpose if Zaraki was in shikai.

For those reason I'll say that Zaraki isn't even using shikai.

He said in chapter 109 that this is his true form of his Zanpakuto, but at that time the Shikai-Bankai concept wasn't explained. When the concept was explained in chapter 120 Ichigo said "So my Zanpakuto is like Kenpachi's? No wonder it's.. " So I guess that means automatically that it's in its released form, aka Shikai. Here are the pages:

Anyway we'll probably get some kind of a detailed explanation in this arc about Kenpachi and his past, there's a reason why he's so strong, let's wait and see.

I have made my point earlier. I will wait for Kubo explanation and it better be good one.


That's not the case. I would've accept if it was one or even two but three? No way. Until now we saw Stern Ritters are dominating no matter whoever they against are but suddenly Kenpachi take out three doesn't mean they were conveniently matched or weak. As i said above i will wait for Kubo explanation and if it didn't go well then it proves my point once again about bleach messed up power levels. And if i remember correctly you also didn't have much hopes for Kenpachi in this arc.