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Omg, if it turns out that Tobi is actually Obito I'm going to laugh my ass off. As ridiculous as this manga gets I'll just snap right there :)

If Tobi wins this battle, the Juubi will resurrect and Tobi will use the mugen Tsukyomi. And This will be the end ! Gai-sensei said in the previous chapter they must kill Tobi, if they wants to stop the transformation of the Gedo Mazo.


Why not !?
Tobi has Hashirama Senju's cells. Maybe in the next chapter Tobi will use Mokuton too....Like Uchiha Madara.



Yes, in this question I talked about Tobi.


The absence of the Katon in enough for me.

Obviously !!! It is why he ran away after Minato Namikaze defeated him in only two minutes, 16 years ago. Tobi even lost a hand and Kyubi (chapter 503). I really wonder why Minato was Hokage....



My theory on Tobi's indentity

-Tobi is a zetsu clone (Hashirama Senju's cells) ---> Izanagi, Tsuki No Me, jutsu Doton (without hand seals)
-Tobi has the Uchiwa Madara's blood (Uchiwa Madara's DNA) ---> Izanagi, Tsuki No Me, Summoning Technique of Kyubi
-Tobi has the Uchiwa Madara's chakra.
-Tobi has the Uchiwa Madara's brain---> Knowledge on Izanagi, on the Ten tailed Beast (Juubi), the Sage of the Six Paths (Rikudo Sennin), the Sage of the Six Paths's sons, the origin of the Uchiha and the Senju, the beginning of Konoha.
-Tobi has the Uchiwa Obito's right eye (sharingan) ---> Space-Time Migration, Genjutsu
-Tobi has the Uchiwa Izuna's left eye (rinnegan) ---> Summoning Technique (Demonic Statue of the Outer Path), the human path (ningendo), control of corpses.
-Tobi has the Uzumaki Nagato's cells ----> a good host (Jinchuriki) for the Ten Tail Beast (Juubi)
-Tobi has wrinkles under his eyes (chapter 510 and chapter 397), so Tobi looks like Uchiwa Madara, When Uchiwa Madara was about 50 years old.
Tobi was created by Uchiwa Madara for the project of the Full moon Eye (Mugen Tsukyomi)


If the mask is really a problem Tobi can break it, like he did for the Izanagi (chapter 510)

amenboy, do you write "Uchiwa" on purpose?

I made a mistake, I know it is Uchiha.

You didn't get my point. Tobi face is huge mystry, so he can't remove mask for just Katon.


All theories aside. He can be Zetsu cell, Uzumaki or Ramen guy but proving him wrong as Uchiha just because he didn't use Katon doesn't make much sense. Katon was not even useful against genin Naruto. Neither Itachi huge Katon did anything against Naruto and Kakashi. Why would Tobi take risk to remove his mask just to use Katon? Izanagi is special jutsu so even if he removed his mask (i didn't checked chapter again. too lazy) that can make sense but not for Katon. I would've think much about it if it was about Amaterasu or Tsukoyomi, which can be very lethal.

Tobi needs not to remove his mask to use a Katon. If Tobi wants to use a Katon he can make a hole in the mask in front of his lips. If Tobi never did a Katon during a fight , it's because he cannot do it. That is all !




It is not a story of : Katon is useful or Katon is useless. It is just that the jutsu Katon is the only way which prove someone is from the Uchiha clan. Every Shinobi of the Uchiha clan can use the Katon. The Katon is a speciality of the Uchiha. And more you are wrong : Madara used a big Katon in the chapter 560, because Madara knew that the Suiton is stronger the Katon, so the ninjas of the alliance did what Madara wished and created a mist. It's the perfect strategy to enter into a crowd of shinobis. And more Sasuke used a Katon to create the Kirin and send it against Itachi (chapter 390 and 391). Sasuke use a Katon against Danzo's invocation (chapter 479). So the Katon is more useful that you think.


I agree with you, Tobi did not say : This eye is mine !
But I think the Obito's sharigan was his first sharingan. Tobi took the other sharingans when he killed the other Uchiha with Itachi 8 years ago.

Why did not Tobi use the Izanagi against Minato, 16 years ago ?

Damnit Naruto! I knew the chapter was going to be crap onwards after he interrupted the speech between Kakashi and Obito(?).

I'm probably totally wrong, but I think it's Tobirama Senju.

Anyone else read the latest rosario+vampire?

I swear the "Final Villain's Ultimate move" and the counter is the same thing....

Finally a good chapter. I wish there weren't all of those flashbacks near the end though.

While I'd personally like for it to be Obito, I doubt Kishi will go down that route. I mean it's just too obvious and besides it's been predicted since Tobi first appeared.

On the other hand, who would've been able to know exactly where Obito was and take his eye? I doubt it's Rin, since someone would've made it clear that Tobi was a girl lol. With that deep voice he's got in the anime, I don't think so.

It'll be none other than......Sasuke's father!

No it was not predicted the moment tobi appeared. I had no clue rather he was tied to obito in any possible way. Everyone was so stuck on it being "Madara" because thats what his name was, so no one even though to try and come up with some other identity. Everyone thought it was resolved. UNTILL kishimoto pulls a 180 on our asses and kabuto ends up summoning madara and they question tobi's identity and he says " I AM NO ONE" that is when all the theories, speculation and attempts to try and figure out who he is began.


Oh and yeah i hear you about the rin theory but umm, just explain how he was able to change his voice when tobi was first introduced?

so are we getting the new chapter today or saturday?

I wonder how Tobi found Obito under the rocks....And if Tobi had already two or one sharingan before to take the Obito's sharingan ?

well he has a whole collection of sharingan and since he appeared since madara's death he must have had some; I wonder how he even got obito's other eye, wasn't it crushed? but really it's obvious to me that it's not obito (not rin either lol)

I literally saw people going "OMG is that Obito!?" even while he was still acting silly. It wasn't as popular of a prediction as it was now though since people were mainly just saying that because of the name lol.

About his original voice, it was higher pitched but it still sounded like a guys voice. I'm just really hoping it's actually someone we know and not just a random person if you know what I mean.

The eye you mean? It's not that strange for an eyeball to get away after a human body is crashed. No every cm of a body is crashed when rocks fall on it.
Anyway although i don't believe it here is the crazy theory for this chapter. Obito in his desperation seeing the last rocks crushing him made his sharingan work and transferred his body into that dimension. But since his eye only worked that moment because of the emotional stress, he ended trapped there with a half wounded body. He managed to stay alive but he spend decades in there trying to enhance his power and perfecting his sharingan while his mind got filled with the desperation from the loneliness and what happened to him because of the war.
So finally he discovered the power to come and go into that dimension along with a lot more and he escaped from there with the determination to end all wars. But when he made it back to the world he was shocked to discover that what had been decades for him was nothing but a few years in the real world. So he decided to put his plans into action. First he healed his half crashed body with cells from Zetsu and then started his plan to collect the bijuu.

tobi is kakashi's father

funny, just when I was about to write it, but that would contradict what happened when pain attacked konoha
maybe it's future kakashi? okay no

Maybe Tobi used the Hashirama Senju's cells to fix Obito's eye.

Tobi=Obito is much more plausible than the theory that Tobi just decided to take a stroll one Sunday afternoon and happened to randomly find a magical eyeball and a dead body lying under a huge rock.

Then again, this is Kishi.