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08-11-12, 9:23 PM

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THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER.
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I KNEW IT, he has to do with obito, whether is him or not, i know that he was related to tobi. Finally naruto looks raw and the manga is finally turning good
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08-11-12, 9:37 PM

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So someone connected to the fight on the bridge. So most likely it is either Obito or Rin. Assuming that Obito is likely dead for sure then Rin should be Tobi. Who guessed that and meant it?!?!?


 
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08-11-12, 9:38 PM

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naruto gets on my nerves with his answers. I already find it fishy that the kyubi is on good terms with him. Tobi is right, if naruto ends up bringing peace then it's just by the hands of the plot
now what tobi mentioned, he got the eye in the same war where obito died, still I don't think it's obito, I think kishimoto is just trolling us, all we know is that he has his eye
 
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08-11-12, 9:43 PM

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Well, his name is almost an anagram of obito after all...
 
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08-11-12, 9:50 PM

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So it is Obito or a friend LOL, I'm hoping its not Obito, *sigh*
 
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08-11-12, 10:03 PM

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it cant be obito wtf.. obito was a kid when menato was alive so who fought menato then?
 
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08-11-12, 10:20 PM

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This chapter's color spread reminds me of the one Tite Kubo did for Bleach a couple of years back.

 
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08-11-12, 10:21 PM

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Man tobi is starting to give me a headache just say who you are, I'm sure kakashi can atleast recognise you.
 
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08-11-12, 10:28 PM

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Hypeathon said:
This chapter's color spread reminds me of the one Tite Kubo did for Bleach a couple of years back.


lol I'm just wondering when Oda Eiichiro is going to do that with Luffy..........or will he?

I'm guessing for if Kishimoto Masashi decides to pull a troll
 
08-11-12, 10:34 PM

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAwJdUS0uCg&feature=youtu.be watch my review of the chapter to get another opinion on the chapter
 
08-11-12, 10:45 PM

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Personaly I think it would be interesting if it was Obito. That theory goes waaaay back, right next to the fourth being the leader of the akatsuki buuuut it turned out to be Yugito/Nagato.

I've always liked to think Tobi was Obito but something really obvious just occurred to me. It really can't be him. We saw the fourth fight Tobi, right when Naruto was born and Tobi appears to be the same height and inferred age. Obito would have been around the age of 12-14 when the fourth fought Tobi. Unless they pull in some BS Space time super jutsu out of thin air, I don't think it's possible for him to be Obito. I'm wondering how much time passed between Obito's death and Naruto's birth. Because in that time, Tobi would have had to taken the eye, "level" it to Mangekyo and master a space time jutsu flawlessly. I'm guessing everyone already figured this out, I'm just a little slow.

I'm starting to think that Tobi is a previously unintroduced character that Kakashi battled before. I'm guessing maybe he was involved in Rin's death.

Also, I'm getting a little sick of Naruto. Not because he's bad, but because he's becoming repetitive. It's not even him, it's just the dialog and the writing.

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Yeah...you said that two chapters ago... and we did the exact same thing...two chapters ago...(or maybe it was last chapter?)Gee, I wonder what you are going to do. Charge with a rasengan? I understand that they figured out Tobi's jutsu but still, move the fight along please.
 
08-11-12, 11:10 PM

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Wow, love the color pages!

That last page with Naruto running after Tobi was freakin' EPIC! :D

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08-11-12, 11:18 PM

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Well it seems the information from saiyan island was correct after all before the chapter released.

In any case this was freaken awesome, kakashi i swear, he is so fcking brilliant, he never ceases to amaze me. He is by far my most favorite character in naruto.


I liked how they shown a color panel of how much growth naruto has went through from when he first began his shinobi career to his current state. He has come quite a ways.

Yeah its getting closer and closer to the actual truth of tobi's identity, especially kakashi said "YOU" i think kakashi knows exactly who he is and probably when the reveal happens, its kakashi that is going to mention his name.

One thing is for certain, we do not know the extent of tobi's abilities yet, for all we know since he can create space time jutsu's he may even be able to manipulate time it self and appear in the past or the future. After all he was able to do it in "road to the ninja" movie. That would explain why he knows so much bout the world and is able to manipulate every one in order to achieve his dreams. Their is still that possibly that tobi could be obito. But it would be cool if kishi was just trolling us and the answer was something we didn't expect. Because if it was Obito, its been so hinted upon at this point it would just kind of anticlimactic.

I believe next chapter will probably reveal it. Kishimoto said a couple more weeks and its been about that. Couple meaning 2-3.
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08-11-12, 11:53 PM

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Awesome chapter he might really be obito
 
08-11-12, 11:58 PM

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One thing is for certain, we do not know the extent of tobi's abilities yet, for all we know since he can create space time jutsu's he may even be able to manipulate time it self and appear in the past or the future. After all he was able to do it in "road to the ninja" movie. That would explain why he knows so much bout the world and is able to manipulate every one in order to achieve his dreams. Their is still that possibly that tobi could be obito. But it would be cool if kishi was just trolling us and the answer was something we didn't expect. Because if it was Obito, its been so hinted upon at this point it would just kind of anticlimactic.


This makes me ask the question, does Konoha possess Obito's corpse? Yes, it was half crushed under a rock and his name was put on the KIA monument, but did they ever retrieve his body?

I'm starting to wonder if it really is Obito and he somehow immediately gained his right eye's ultimate ability to escape from under that boulder, wouldn't be that hard.

But yes, Tobi, or at least someone with the same abilities, fought the 4th hokage... I forget the time difference between when the war and when Naruto is born, but who knows, maybe Obito beefed up in that time, that or the obvious super planned ahead transformation jutsu to appear older when he was still young.

There's going to be a lot more theorycrafting this week.
 
08-12-12, 12:20 AM

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So tobi has obito's eye? I love how Kurama said that naruto is his friend. I thought about something along the lines of them being in the same dimensions, or else it wouldn't have made sense. Finally a climax can be seen in this fight
 
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Tobi just got the sharingan eye of Obito.... that does not mean that Tobi is Obito

im guessing Tobi is a Uzumaki Clan member lol
 
08-12-12, 12:43 AM

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Last page was epic but another useless flashback. Another power up.
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This chapter's color spread reminds me of the one Tite Kubo did for Bleach a couple of years back.



Yeah it does except Kubos was more epic.

The last page was epic but this chapter had useless flashback. Kishi act like our memory is pretty bad. I guess this is another power up for Naruto or something. Either way i hope Tobi wins. I dont ever recall Naruto ever retreating.
 
08-12-12, 12:45 AM

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I am guessing that Tobi is actually tobi's brother which has different father but tobi and tobi's brother who is tobi has same mother which makes them brothers in that case we can say that tobi is almost tobi since they have same parent .....
 
08-12-12, 12:49 AM

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Hypeathon said:
This chapter's color spread reminds me of the one Tite Kubo did for Bleach a couple of years back.



That was the 1st thing that came to mind when I saw it.But I prefer that over the Naruto version.

Anyway,the chapter itself wasn't all that great.It was just explanation,more bait for theories on who Tobi is & blah blah blah.I forgot the rest after that.
Man,Kishi is just stalling to me.Just tell us who the hell is Tob & move oni.
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08-12-12, 1:18 AM

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I already had a feeling that Tobi's eye was Obitos.
And to all those to think Tobi is Rin or Obito... They are dead! They were already seen dead in the afterlife.
Obito was so much cooler as the bro that saved Kakashi's life
 
08-12-12, 1:27 AM

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Maybe Obito is the ultimate troll and he acted all the way.

Maybe he used his 'crushed' eye's sharingan to send his unseen so-called crushed side to the other dimension while Rin was too busy sobbing at his face. Then when Kakashi and Rin were gone and he was presumed entombed he just slipped away with a massive trollface. He gave his other sharingan to Kakashi just because he already had a warehouse of eyes by then...

Maybe...
 
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bonifide said:
Last page was epic but another useless flashback. Another power up.
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This chapter's color spread reminds me of the one Tite Kubo did for Bleach a couple of years back.



Yeah it does except Kubos was more epic.

yeah bleach one was pretty good but that's because ichigo had so many god damn forms!,i expect for whenever the one piece is done it would be all of luffy's crew from when they were kids to when they met up to were they are now~.
as for the chapter liking the last page.
 
08-12-12, 2:33 AM

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This chapter was great. Love to the last page, Naruto looks awesome like that.
 
08-12-12, 2:35 AM

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Tobi just got the sharingan eye of Obito.... that does not mean that Tobi is Obito

im guessing Tobi is a Uzumaki Clan member lol


I don't know how many times i have heard this in the past 10 chapter discussions lol. For now, lets just wait and see what happens.
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Even if it's Obito's eye, how the hell was it not crushed?!
 
08-12-12, 2:40 AM

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I feel an inconsistency with the whole obito's other eye, in a sense the two eyes would share the same dimension; however in the manga and anime his whole right side including his face was crushed. I mean does medial ninjutsu have the ability to reconstruct a whole eye?

It is these little inconsistencies that make the story awkward to predict then again the author can just write something along the lines of his face wasn't full crushed.

we'll have to wait and see lol
 
08-12-12, 3:07 AM

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Damn. It's finally getting pretty good after that gayness chapter streak.
 
08-12-12, 3:13 AM

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This chapter was legit is most ways. I might be the only one but i want Tobi to turn out to be Rin. We never learned what really happened to her.
 
08-12-12, 3:39 AM

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urgh....... JUST. LET. US. KNOW. WHO. HE. IS.
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08-12-12, 3:42 AM

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Fuck that! I'm tired of Thinking xD
 
08-12-12, 4:29 AM

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haha time to join the obito bandwagon^^
 
08-12-12, 4:33 AM

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So Tobi has Obito's eye??
Could it really be Tobi since he really looked liek he died and wouldn't he be to young to have attacked the 4th, could it be RIN maybe since they never said anyting about her.

 
08-12-12, 5:19 AM

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but wasn't RIN a girl ? well there is one part I doubt she could keep all the time in other dimension xD
 
08-12-12, 5:27 AM

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Omg i hope he's obito:D That naruto development page was awesome
 
08-12-12, 5:30 AM

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Every single page of this manga was awesome :O
But Naruto.... always stealing attention....
 
08-12-12, 5:55 AM

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Naruto never amazes me! XD But it was a good chapter!
 
08-12-12, 6:02 AM

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As much as I admire Naruto's determination, I wish there was something more that Naruto could say to make it more convincing about the answer to finding peace/hope/etc.

That aside, I'm excited for the next chapter. Naruto is back with complete Kyuubi mode! :D
 
08-12-12, 7:00 AM

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As much as I admire Naruto's determination, I wish there was something more that Naruto could say to make it more convincing about the answer to finding peace/hope/etc.

That aside, I'm excited for the next chapter. Naruto is back with complete Kyuubi mode! :D


he can allways add: "and I like Rameeeeenn!!!!!!!!!!"
 
08-12-12, 8:34 AM

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awesome chapter, also this whole who is tobi has already reached its climax

I can just see that when his identity will finally be revealed, people won't go "omfg, I knew it!" but will most likely say "about fu**ing time!"

he's just a prick pretending to be what was once a true pimp...actually Madara is sorta alive atm :)) but oh well

and he'll die...like a prick

that final page was pure win XD
 
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awesome chapter, also this whole who is tobi has already reached its climax

I can just see that when his identity will finally be revealed, people won't go "omfg, I knew it!" but will most likely say "about fu**ing time!"

he's just a prick pretending to be what was once a true pimp...actually Madara is sorta alive atm :)) but oh well

and he'll die...like a prick

that final page was pure win XD


I think madara will probably have a larger role to play in this, people keep counting him out like he is some insignificant villain but he's one of the true legendary figures in the nartuverse.

What it is i don't know and who remains the actual enemy, i don't know that either. If its a Kizuna, it could be a clash or some kind of conflict with the brothers. If it turns out to be Obito, maybe tobi may realize his ideal world that he wants to create has caused much harm and give up on everything, but again that would suck because that would mean everything he's been plotting since the beginning would have no real value and he does not show any remorse what so ever. I just can't see Obito turning towards those ways of evil to that extent to want to destroy villages, cause wars and change the world all for the sake of taking complete control of the ninja world and everyone in it so their is no more war or bloodshed?

Besides naruto has never been really about cliche villains, most of the main actors in the story have always had some deep reasoning behind why they turn rogue, itachi, Orichamaru, Kabuto, Sasuske and many of the Akutski organization members. So if it turns out to be Obiti, kishi better have damn sensible reason why he chose to walk down that path of evil.
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Good questions here about the Tobi=/=Obito problem. And yes, Obito's right part of his body was crushed BUT he still managed to talk and see with his eye, so maybe his face wasn't crushed completely, since his brain was fine. Or I'm guessing it'll have something to do with time-traveling. It would explain the Tobi during Naruto's birth and his exceptional strength.

Speculations ahead:
If it really is Tobi then he might have had the slightest chance to survive by having the rocks miraculously miss the ones that were on top of his body and his left side. He would then have to survive below the rocks for at'least 2 day's until the Earth-ninjas come and see if there are any survivors(he would need to have a small crack between the rocks to get enough air to live), then the Earth-ninjas would have a convenient jutsu to save people that are covered in rubble and they would take him in as a prisoner. Since he is an Uchiha they would transport him to a more secure location and try to copy his ability. Since they don't have the same kind of medical ninjas as Konoha have, they would have a hard time figuring out how and Obito would not say anything even though he is in serious pain and most likely tortured. Earth-ninjas would then use psychological torture on him and have him turn against Konoha for not making sure he was dead or not. They would most likely try to mind-control him into a soldier and give him a mask to hide his disfigurations and heal his body with surgery and excercise. During this time Obito will learn to fully use his only eye in a year or so, since only one eye=>less chakra consuming or something. When he is fully healed, he turns against his masters, learns time-travel, forms Akatsuki and so on.

TL;DR: Tobi could be Obito, but it is a really small chance. Or it is a master troll.

But we can't forget one major thing about Tobi's identity: He showed his face to Kisame and he recognized him immediately and said something of the like: "So, it was you all along." So how did Kisame know Tobi's face?
 
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It can't be Obito, it makes no sense :/
And until it's made official I won't believe it. Also notice how Kakashi asks him where he "got" that eye, implying he stole it from Obito. Ah well, let's see what happens.
 
08-12-12, 9:50 AM

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it's not obito, kishimoto is just trolling you guys
 
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Doesn't explain how Tobi had the other Sharingan, so I don't think it is Obito.
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08-12-12, 1:15 PM

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Doesn't explain how Tobi had the other Sharingan, so I don't think it is Obito.

I totally forgot about that. Tobi did indeed have two sharingan eyes. This only makes things even more confusing.
 
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So someone connected to the fight on the bridge. So most likely it is either Obito or Rin. Assuming that Obito is likely dead for sure then Rin should be Tobi. Who guessed that and meant it?!?!?

Oh wow, I never actually thought about that.
She could of secretly loved obito, and is pissed at kakashi for not being able to save him. So she took his other, not quite crushed eye, and made an anagram out of his name for herself out of respect.
I bet your right, nothing like trolling by switching the sex all together.
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i hate it whenever they go into explanations of jutsus -_-
i actually love kurama and naruto's new freindship x3

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xuezhi said:
So someone connected to the fight on the bridge. So most likely it is either Obito or Rin. Assuming that Obito is likely dead for sure then Rin should be Tobi. Who guessed that and meant it?!?!?

Oh wow, I never actually thought about that.
She could of secretly loved obito, and is pissed at kakashi for not being able to save him. So she took his other, not quite crushed eye, and made an anagram out of his name for herself out of respect.
I bet your right, nothing like trolling by switching the sex all together.


Yeah but rin is a girl, tobi clearly has a man's voice. Unless he has the ability to alter his voice change, like he did when he was first introduced and no one knew he claimed to be madara at that point.
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