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A lot of people tell me I should stop hating on dubs and go watch a good dub like FMA: B or Cowboy Bebop, well guess what? I couldn't finish an episode of either because I couldn't stand the voices, now if they are supposedly the good ones why the fuck should I torture myself and watch more that aren't as good? I shouldn't, and I won't.

As for this argument I've seen a few people in this thread mention, the whole "but you can't even understand Japanese." Has it ever occurred to you that maybe, just maybe some of us actually have learnt the language?

If you genuinely disliked Bebop's and FMA:B's dubs, then I'm honestly lost for words. You wouldn't know a good dub if it smacked you square in the jaw. It could be due to the fact you watched the subbed versions first, but whatever. It's your opinion, and if you prefer subs, then that's fine. Just don't post such asinine comments like, "Why do people hate on dubs? Because they suck.".

Also, in reply to the bolded part, a lot of viewers have no interest in learning the Japanese language just for the sake of watching anime. If you used that argument in a "dubs vs raws" thread, then I'd agree with you. Obviously you'd be more inclined to watch the subbed with Jap version simply for the sake of enhancing your skills in the language (just like how I changed my Facebook layout from English to German, so that I can hopefully build up my vocab).



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Cute. Completely ignore the point and focus on the semantics of the discussion. Even if some of the people who replied to this topic knew what Stockholm Syndrome's technical definition was there was absolutely no reason for them to point out the obvious because I made the context I was using it in clear enough.

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stop using 4chan words plz

thats were this word comes from is it not

Another resident of 1998/4Kids-land when it comes to characteristics of dubbing.

I can agree with crappy loud and 'smiling' voices (mainly for females) and limited content, but this does not apply to all dubs, so i can't really say why people would hate on ALL dubs with the excuse of being crappy. Perhaps it's like that negative vibe when someone mentions a common shounen such as One Piece or Naruto. They've never seen it, but just from it's reputation they won't go near it. Even if they have, if they did not like it they will have no interest to give it another chance.There's also the fact that if you watched subbed first, chances are you're going to think it's better simply because you watched it first. If the dub was aired first, chances are people might complain the Japanese version was too different. Same principal.

It could also be a psychological thing. People who have a negative view on something will automatically give a negative interpretation regardless on what it is.
Ex. If you hate someone, all of a sudden anything they say to you seems offensive.

I recently watched a clip for the 'C' dub from Funimation, and aside from Masakaki's mispronounced name (that really doesn't bother me that much), it was pretty good. The main negative point aside from mispronunciation mentioned in the comments was that Kimimaro's voice actor, Todd Haberkorn, was being used way too much.
I can recognize a lot of repetitive Japanese voice actors in a lot of Anime, but i don't complain of overuse. I like their voices. Even if i don't, if the voice acting is good i don't give a damn. These feelings are the same for dubs.
People have their preferences, but so far i have not seen a reasonable, non-biased reason to say ALL dubs are terrible. Maybe these 'haters' are watching the majority of the bad ones?
Or perhaps people are picky with dubs. If anything is left out all of a sudden it sucks even if the voices are amazing.

I use to hate dubs.

However, dubs are getting better and better lately ^_^ Though ENG dub still got quite some way to go if they are to be as good as original dub.

i prefer dubbed anime better with subbed. the only one i put up with subbed was highschool DxD and naruto shippuden after episode 252. i dont know if im the only one but i like the dubbed voices better because i know a lot of them from other anime's and i think some sound stupid in dubbed example: i think pain from naruto sounds better subbed and ALL characters from air gear sound better in dubbed i couldnt stand watching the OVA's to air gear.

but thats my opinion.

You missed my point there.

I'm not talking about which one they would 'prefer'. I'm talking about sitting them down and have them evaluate the voice acting by itself. I'm willing to bet my left testicle that if we let them watch x number of anime in both versions and have them rate the them on VOICE ACTING ONLY, we will find that all of them would agree that Japanese version is superior.

The point is people can prefer to watch how ever they want to, but you can't deny the fact that Japanese voice acting is just better than the rest (with very few exceptions).

I don't know why some people are hating on dubs. To tell the truth some animes has fast subs,where not always I can everything,because they're too fast. I like subs/dubs,but sometimes dubbed animes are better then subbed,because at times I focus my gaze on the subs instead of actual anime.

Geez, so much flaming...

Just another thread in MAL, I guess.

Okay, I can't say for a fact that one is better than the other, I can only speak from my own opinion.

I like both. There. I have heard bad dubs, and Good dubs, in both languages. I've read some pretty bad subbing, and some good subbing. I'm always open for a different experience and getting the most out of my animes. I do tend to lean more towards dubs, though.

But in the end, it's all subjective, but despite that, people still wants to believe that their way of watching an anime is the only proper way to experiencing it, and worst of all, forcing that opinion on others. I'm talking about both sides, as they both have their idiots.

Dub lovers, you have to accept that some people just prefer the original voices. Maybe they do understand the language enough to determine the acting quality, or maybe they just find it safer to stick with subs at the risk of getting a bad dub, or maybe they really do dislike the dub acting. Dub Haters, watching an anime in it's original language doesn't make you better than people who don't, and it most certainly doesn't help when you're constantly forcing your views on others.

Either way's fine, as long as we can all enjoy a show the way we want to.

Some animes have very good and very bad dubs, often your perspective on an animes voices will depend on which you started with, if you start an anime subbed after a few episodes then accidentally watch a dubbed it can sound awful and visa-versa.
There aren't many really good dubs but the best ones I'd say would be Cowboy Bebop, Samurai Champloo and Midori no Hibi.

You spelled opinion wrong.
Whether the voice acting is better in one version or another is subjective as well.

The thing that really puts me off dubs is the female voice actors and strong american accents.

I preferred subbed over dubbed mainly because for most animes, the dubbed version voices didn't fit the character. Like for Yu yu Hakusho the dubs was alright so I watched that in dubs but when I was bored enough to watch pocket monsters, the dubbed version was death to me so I had to find it in the subbed version. This applies for some games as well; Vanille for FFXIII sounds horrible to the point my parents thought I was watching pron in the living room when I was playing the game with here as the main Ravager.

Please tell me you're trolling.

"I'm not talking about which one they would 'prefer'. I'm talking about sitting them down and have them evaluate the voice acting by itself."

That's kind of the thing; you can't evaluate both the Jap and Eng voice acting unless you can speak both languages. That's like watching a German dub and not liking it because "they all sound angry".

"I'm willing to bet my left testicle that if we let them watch x number of anime in both versions and have them rate the them on VOICE ACTING ONLY, we will find that all of them would agree that Japanese version is superior."

It's a shame, but you're right in saying they'd all think the Japanese version is superior. It's because the anime community is full of blights like you that hate anything that isn't Japanese. Why don't you spam "kawaii" a couple hundred times while you're here, maybe you'll turn Japanese!

"...but you can't deny the fact that Japanese voice acting is just better than the rest (with very few exceptions)."

Actually, one can deny that the Japanese voice acting is better because it's subjective.

I can't stand dubbed Anime!I tried to watch but it was so bad!I don't know why but Japanese feels better!

This. So much this.

Dubbing is always rape of art, actually "rape" is an understatement. Whether it's my Chinese cartoons, Norwegian zombie flick or a French short film. Dubbing literally destroys half of the original work and butchers it. And for what? Illiterate plebs who have hard time with anything that isn't especially catered to their language, culture or worldview. Isn't MTV enough for you? Have you ever watched Italian, Spanish or German full dubbed TV? Didn't it make you lose your faith in humanity and set your blood boiling when you knew that a whole countries in their ignorance adored that practice? Did you see how far those works had deviated from the originals? The abominations they were turned into? That's literally what you're gobbling up and defending. It's not even matter of quality or preference. It's an objective fact. Dubs can't be justified, it's like copying redrawing Mona Lisa in Paint and calling it better than the original. It's no wonder that the only countries that still practice dubbing are, or were as of late, the poorest, the most uneducated and the most undeveloped countries with high illiteracy, for anyone who could afford, that is, audience that could read, would never prefer dubs. And yet it's no wonder that the only people who use and defend dubs are the herd of new and occasional viewers who think their dubs constitute as anime.

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