| When he was telling Asuka to wake up, and then he turns her over... The screen cuts to show a doorknob and you can hear Shinji making breathing noises. Then it shows his hand and it has fluid all over it, and he says "I'm so fucked up." Did he just masturbate? I know that's probably what he did, but its just so messed up I want to believe it's something else... |
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| that scene makes me feel weird xD |
| Does anyone else need a doctor to confirm that someone without a head is dead? |
| Yup, he masturbated to a comatose 14-year-old and it was hilarious. I had to pause the movie so I could laugh. Can't really blame him, though. Redheads are sexy. |
| I'm dead. Don't come looking for me. |
| I made this thread because I was seriously just hoping it was something else. It took me a few seconds when I first saw before I realized what happened... It was so sudden. They could have left that part out and the movie would still be OK... I wonder how that even got in. Did some guy just suddenly say "Hey, let's start out the movie by showing a scene where Shinji masturbates in front of Asuka's comatose body!" |
LarasoAug 2, 2012 2:27 PM
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Laraso said: They could have left that part out and the movie would still be OK... I wonder how that even got in. Did some guy just suddenly say "Hey, let's start out the movie by showing a scene where Shinji masturbates in front of Asuka's comatose body!" The point of the scene is to show Shinji's fragile mental state. Remember that EoE is set right after episode 24 where he was forced to kill someone he thought was a friend...not to mention other things that happened throughout to make him off kilter. Like he himself puts it: "I'm so fucked up". There is a lot more to the scene than what appears on the surface. It pretty much defines his character at the start of EoE for better or worse and that is why I think it's an excellent scene. |
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insan3soldiern said: They could have done something else besides a masturbation scene to make it clear he's fucked up. |
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Laraso said: insan3soldiern said: They could have done something else besides a masturbation scene to make it clear he's fucked up. I don't think anything could have conveyed the message any better and still kept him in character. Or, do you have any better ideas? If you were/are offended or something, well, the cool think about fiction is that it can explore themes without actually harming anyone. So....why not? I can assure you there are far more fucked up things in manga out there. I think it's best to just leave morals and stuff at the door. |
Ston3_FreeN7Aug 3, 2012 1:22 AM
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
insan3soldiern said: It's not that I was offended by anything, it's just that it felt incongruous and unnecessary. The "friend" he killed in the TV series was only around for 2 episodes. To say that he had become so attached to him in such a short time frame that killing him would lead him to do display such impetuous behavior is ridiculous. Whatever point they were trying to make by pushing this scene was foiled by the abruptness in which it was made. |
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deadleeserious said: He's piloting a massive bio-mech and using all sorts of weaponry on a daily basis. He's already taken down numerous angels, and has witnessed more violence and messed up stuff than most people have seen in their entire lifetime. He's 14 years old and has already lost everything worth keeping, yet I'm supposed to believe that all it takes is the death of somebody he's known for maybe 2 days at the most to break him completely? If that person wasn't a random nobody, and was somebody like Misato instead, I could understand how that would really screw with his mind. But it wasn't. Even a 14 year old wouldn't become that attached to somebody so quickly, especially Shinji, since he has already lost everything. If I'm really supposed to believe that destroyed Shinji mentally, then I'm going to go ahead and label him "mentally deficient". If I had known somebody for 2 days, I wouldn't be this emotionally attached to them. If I learned that he wasn't even human and was actually trying to destroy all of humanity, I wouldn't hesitate to stop him, even if that meant killing him. Murder isn't even an appropriate description for that; it's more like protecting yourself and everyone around you from facing untimely demise. I wouldn't spend time deciding whether I wanted everybody on earth to die or not, because killing him and sparing everybody else is an obvious decision. |
LarasoAug 3, 2012 11:38 AM
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| It's a reality case, what else? Laughing like that scene is like laughing at: |
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deadleeserious said: This is an extremely easy thing to say, not an easy thing to do. Plenty of soldiers come back from wars traumatised by the killing they have seen and commited, despite knowing it was done for "the greater good." I think if you were really put in a situation like that, you wouldn't find the solution to be so simple. Yeah, except the difference here being that if you don't kill him, you and everyone else on the planet will die. I always act in the most efficient and beneficial way; it's a philosophy I have that adds structure to my everyday life. Killing him = Everyone lives. Sparing him = Everyone dies. My obvious choice would be to kill him, and I wouldn't regret doing it either. The only thing I would regret is if I didn't kill him and caused the end of the world. Of course, I'd be dead, but if I was alive I would. |
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| I saw a drawing the other day of Shinji in a chef's hat holding a frosting tube and Asuka covered in frosting spirals, topped with cherries. And of course I can't find it now to link it. |
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Zarggg said: Damn you.I saw a drawing the other day of Shinji in a chef's hat holding a frosting tube and Asuka covered in frosting spirals, topped with cherries. And of course I can't find it now to link it. |
| I'm dead. Don't come looking for me. |
| It's not hard to take it seriously. OP making a big deal as a 17 year old male is a bit pathetic really. |
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boating92 said: It's not hard to take it seriously. OP making a big deal as a 17 year old male is a bit pathetic really. Not trying to make a big deal. I usually exaggerate a lot more on the internet than I ever do in real life. |
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Laraso said: boating92 said: It's not hard to take it seriously. OP making a big deal as a 17 year old male is a bit pathetic really. Not trying to make a big deal. I usually exaggerate a lot more on the internet than I ever do in real life. So he wanked over the girl he's had sexual tension with for the entire series and it's weird and fucked up? |
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| And it's also CLEAR he masturbated. |
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boating92 said: And it's also CLEAR he masturbated. Yeah, we get it... Why are you being so defensive over something like this? |
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boating92 said: 17 year old male I'm 18, by the way. |
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JavierR said: But it's not that shocking or unobvious that it would happen and he would do it. It's understandable.boating92 said: Laraso said: boating92 said: It's not hard to take it seriously. OP making a big deal as a 17 year old male is a bit pathetic really. Not trying to make a big deal. I usually exaggerate a lot more on the internet than I ever do in real life. So he wanked over the girl he's had sexual tension with for the entire series and it's weird and fucked up? Actually it is weird, and fucked up @Laraso I don't even get why she's so defensive :/ |
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boating92 said: But it's not that shocking or unobvious that it would happen and he would do it. It's understandable. So if that was you in the hospital in place of Asuka, would you consider it obvious and understandable that somebody would wank to your naked body while you were in a coma? I think you are giving Shinji more pity than he deserves. The personalities of the characters in this anime were changing so often that it would be practically impossible to say that it was obvious it was going to happen. It was as random and unexpected as just about everything else in the anime, so I guess to that extent I wasn't surprised. |
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| .... it's just a boy playing with his penis over a hot ass chick what's there to be shocked about? |
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| He was playing with his own toy...so ? |
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| I guess the problem is that she was in a coma which is understandable but nothing to make fuss about it.If he was a character that lived his life happily then yeah I agree that either he is the greatest asshole ever or the directors forced the scene for whatever reason. I was surprised when I saw it but I wasnt shocked cause I knew he was already fucked up.Anyone who didnt realize this after the first 3 eps of the series obviously wasnt looking at the series at all.And at least he didnt visit her with that in mind,so I guess thats also why I can let it slide. Then again the last scene of the movie was far more shocking for me than him masturbating over Asuka. |
flaxman85 said: .... it's just a boy playing with his penis over a hot ass chick what's there to be shocked about? Well, considering that "over" is literal, it makes him look like a sicko perv. |
Apomaro-Mellow said: Everyone's getting so squicked out because Asuka is a 14 year old girl, but so is Shinji. It's not their age that makes it so shocking. Now if there was a huge age gap, then that'd be a reason to be bothered. The fact that it happened at all, regardless of their age, is bothering enough. |
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| I feel like this is fitted here. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7yWoKV1_VY |
That made my day, thanks! |
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deadleeserious said: Scenes like that are why Evangelion is still so heavily discussed nearly 20 years on. It wasn't afraid to push boundaries and divide opinions. Seemed perfectly in keeping with the character and the tone of the series to me. It shows how screwed up he is, but that he feels guilty about it shows he isn't beyond hope either. Indeed. |
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| Didn't get it till I read this thread, kind of shocked. |
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MudRune said: Didn't get it till I read this thread, kind of shocked. Just curious, but what DID you think he did? |
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Posting because it still makes me laugh. Every. Single. Time. |
DEMOLITION_D said: Posting because it still makes me laugh. Every. Single. Time. You've just made my day... And my week, and my month. |
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| Seemed ridiculously relevant so I wasn't going to waste the chance. I don't get a lot of opportunities to post it lol |
i think he didn't mastrubate i mean when shinji say i fucked off it mean aku sungguh kacau it's mean he get stress or something like that but i don't know where that white fluid came from sorry for my bad english |
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shadow0056 said: i think he didn't mastrubate i mean when shinji say i fucked off it mean aku sungguh kacau it's mean he get stress or something like that but i don't know where that white fluid came from sorry for my bad english Well, you are clearly in denial. |
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Laraso said: DEMOLITION_D said: Posting because it still makes me laugh. Every. Single. Time. You've just made my day... And my week, and my month. Till this day; this is still funny. |
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