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| Finally got to watch this. The movie was better than the first one but should be expected, since A's was mostly focused on action & it could fit easier in a 2:25 minutes movie. I liked some of the differences but sadly they cut stuff again. Pros: 1) The beginning of the movie with Reinforce II was better than the TV series. 2) Transformations were more impressive. 3) The new scenes that were added involving the Ancient Belkan civilization were interesting. 4) Fate dream scene was presented much better. Cons: 1) Some fights were removed, such as the Fate vs. Signum at that isolated planet. 2) I was hoping for more background to be explained regarding the Tome of the Night Sky. 3) I was expecting Alisa & Suzuka to be trapped inside the barrier like they did in the TV series. Instead, they totally dropped that & by the very end, Nanoha told them the truth about magic, the other worlds, etc. Just randomly. 4) Not that much of a big con, but the TV series had more interaction moments between Fate & Lindy. And there wasn't a 6 year time skip in the movie like in the TV series; Instead it jumped 2 years later. Could that be a hint that the third movie could set by then? Overall, I enjoyed this a lot but I still prefer the TV series more. |
| I'm assuming you did, but since you don't have it updated on your list I'll ask anyways. You watched the series and first movie prior to watching this movie, right? |
| Ohh, I loved the magic combat ad neat animations. The OST was nice too. After having had watched Symphogear OST, I've fallen in love with that singer's and VA's voice, it's really crisp and nice. The story, was also interesting enough. To me, it's mainly the characters and theme that attract me to these series. I'm quite conflicted though, I have the DVD version of the season on my HDD, but I'm a bit unsure if I should watch. I'm the type that once I see something once, I don't tend to rewatch it. Which is why I tend to avoid spoilers. Based from the wiki and some comments here, I think it was a faithful adaptation, they just skipped over some stuff not too crucial to the story and redid many aspects while still keeping it the same basically. Well, I may rewatch it or not, I'll see. I'll have to watch the third season some time soon though, the movie may be 5 years away haha. |
| meh.... Didn't really like the story in this one. I perfer season 1 over season 2. |
FlamingMangos said: meh.... Didn't really like the story in this one. I perfer season 1 over season 2. You mean movie 1 over movie 2? |
| I was already expecting this, but i liked the series much more. The movie was not bad, but was not great like the serie. |
I despise woke people. |
| Stop comparing this movie with the series. Obviously there won't be enough room for character development in a 2 and a half hour movie. Nanoha vs. Reinforce is one of the best fight that I have ever seen. Off to buy the Blu-Ray. 10/10 |
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| Pretty solid second movie, quite glad to have a bit of a recap of the whole two seasons! While it was a bit hard as well to keep my full attention for 2 hours and 30 minutes, it did had a pretty strong pacing and story development as the main series. So all in all a pretty solid movie! |
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| Obviously the animation was a massive improvement from the show and I understand that they had to cut a lot of content due to runtime but with that prelude out of the way, Jesus fuck they butchered the entire season's plot. The entire thing with the mysterious masked man helping the knights and the book's history was completely left out or dumbbed down to the bare minimum. But I could still look past that and enjoy the pretty visuals no problem if it wasn't to that bullshit changes to the first fight. FUCK those changes. First of all, Nanoha actually put of a decent fight against Vita in the series and managed to land a legit hit with her Divine Buster instead of just getting the hat. She even managed to last long enough for Fate to show up and force Vita back for a bit until her other allies showed up. Then they STILL put up a decent fight and Nanoha's linker core was only stolen because Shamal used some dirty magic to form a portal behind her and steal it. After that the knights just run off like rats before the TSAB can catch them. Sure as fuck didn't get anywhere near Fate's linker core during that fight. Meanwhile in this movie, Nanoha just gets fucked then Fate gets fucked and Arf gets fucked and all of them are just at the knights mercy. Just completely undermines the effort they put into that fight originally and how strong they were even before the upgrades. So yea, fuck that change. Had to give this movie a lower score than the series just for that even with the improved visuals and I think they even did some of the Hayate scenes better. Such a shame too since I loved the show and was really hoping the movies would be good. For anybody who's thinking whether they should watch the show or just these movies thinking it's the same thing, WATCH THE SHOW for the story, then you can come back later to the movies for the pretty visuals. Same for anybody who's just seen the movie. Go back and watch at least season 2 since you're missing out on a lot. The first movie at least did a better job condensing the first season and didn't change much of the plot. Overall 7/10 for this movie. Another one of those "I really want this to be amazing but it's just not" situations. |
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| I just rewatched - for the thousandth time, probably, but it's been a couple years since I did a re-watch. I figured since I was going to re-watch both Reflection and Detonation I'd do the whole movie series in sequence. These movies are great. I don't know too many anime movies that score so high on most categories, but the plot is interesting, the sound design is great, the animation and art style are wonderful, bright and colorful, and the characters are definitely the most complex in the genre, I think. ...each of these movies is also longer than the average anime movie.. which is great, though watching all 4 in sequence in one day is a tall order..! vegeta8639 said: Obviously the animation was a massive improvement from the show and I understand that they had to cut a lot of content due to runtime but with that prelude out of the way, Jesus fuck they butchered the entire season's plot. While I don't disagree with you, some of those cut parts were fairly useless - the exception being Alisa and Suzuka's finding out Fate + Nanoha were mages - though that does happen by the time Reflection begins - it'd have been nice to see it happen in the same story arc it happened in during the series. Minor gripe at best, though. Those cat twins were largely irrelevant right after their introduction in the series, as was the instruction / direction they gave the knights since the knights were summoned from within the book in the first place - so they would have that instruction from the start. The role the cat-girls played was an afterthought by the next episode really, and it seems like everything would have played out the same if they never existed, considering the nature of the Book of Darkness. (rather NachtWal...) If anything was a mistake, it was cutting some of the fights from the series, but I can understand why they did as the movie is 2 and a half hours long already. It's a lot to pack into movie format, that's already much longer than the average anime movie... that's why I normally object to series remakes or rehashes... All of that aside, this movie did do a great job if you consider the restrictions. It's even better if you take the movies themselves as stand-alone, and don't compare/contrast them to the series. They are still pretty coherent, given all that was cut - much more digestible to a new viewer. I always recommend the movies to people first, and to watch the series afterward for more in-depth look, if they enjoyed the movies (and most do... it's hard to not take note of the fantastic artwork and animation - the WOW factor in these movies is through the roof) |
Alpha-MethylMar 29, 2021 11:04 AM
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Alpha-Methyl said: I just rewatched - for the thousandth time, probably, but it's been a couple years since I did a re-watch. I figured since I was going to re-watch both Reflection and Detonation I'd do the whole movie series in sequence. These movies are great. I don't know too many anime movies that score so high on most categories, but the plot is interesting, the sound design is great, the animation and art style are wonderful, bright and colorful, and the characters are definitely the most complex in the genre, I think. ...each of these movies is also longer than the average anime movie.. which is great, though watching all 4 in sequence in one day is a tall order..! vegeta8639 said: Obviously the animation was a massive improvement from the show and I understand that they had to cut a lot of content due to runtime but with that prelude out of the way, Jesus fuck they butchered the entire season's plot. While I don't disagree with you, some of those cut parts were fairly useless - the exception being Alisa and Suzuka's finding out Fate + Nanoha were mages - though that does happen by the time Reflection begins - it'd have been nice to see it happen in the same story arc it happened in during the series. Minor gripe at best, though. Those cat twins were largely irrelevant right after their introduction in the series, as was the instruction / direction they gave the knights since the knights were summoned from within the book in the first place - so they would have that instruction from the start. The role the cat-girls played was an afterthought by the next episode really, and it seems like everything would have played out the same if they never existed, considering the nature of the Book of Darkness. (rather NachtWal...) If anything was a mistake, it was cutting some of the fights from the series, but I can understand why they did as the movie is 2 and a half hours long already. It's a lot to pack into movie format, that's already much longer than the average anime movie... that's why I normally object to series remakes or rehashes... All of that aside, this movie did do a great job if you consider the restrictions. It's even better if you take the movies themselves as stand-alone, and don't compare/contrast them to the series. They are still pretty coherent, given all that was cut - much more digestible to a new viewer. I always recommend the movies to people first, and to watch the series afterward for more in-depth look, if they enjoyed the movies (and most do... it's hard to not take note of the fantastic artwork and animation - the WOW factor in these movies is through the roof) The lack of the cat girls existence made both Fate and Nanoha look much weaker and less competent. In the original they were always behind the scenes helping the knights out and the only reason Fate's linker core ever got stolen was because they used another dirty trick while Fate didn't yet know that there were actually 2 masked enemies with different powers at play. In the movie Signum just one shots her and takes it during the first fight whereas in the original the knights had to run off from the TSAB because Fate and the rest managed to put up a decent fight. So you can say the plot still "works" but it puts most of the characters in a worse light. The second movie at least has a lot less heart and dept to it. It just rushes to the flashy parts while ignoring most of the original season's plot and character development. |
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| I find it pretty amusing that they changed Nanoha's dialogue to include her apologizing about Vita's hat |
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