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| 5 out of 5: Loved it! | 544 | 69.57% | |
| 4 out of 5: Liked it | 148 | 18.93% | |
| 3 out of 5: It was OK | 41 | 5.24% | |
| 2 out of 5: Disliked it | 33 | 4.22% | |
| 1 out of 5: Hated it | 16 | 2.05% |
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#521
07-17-12, 4:35 PM
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Kirito's laugh in this episode reminded me of Light's ''I am Kira'' laugh from Deathnote. :o |
#522
07-17-12, 6:30 PM
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i'll just stop expecting much of this anime so i won't be disappointed. apparently there's a manga and light novel? which one should i read? |
#523
07-17-12, 6:33 PM
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Netto_Azure said: Stark700 said: Yumekichi11 said: Won't even bother. Just buy out when it's out on the net. I saw Berserk Swords and Fate ones along with FF ones so most likely this sword will be available to buy. Too bad I saw only one anime/FF sword made to be used for combat also. I would love to use this one to hack shit like wood. Or to fight off intruders tbh like in this article: http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2012/01/13/australian-man-fights-off-home-invader-with-bleach-sword GASP! If only it were an English Release. Want that Elucidator so badly. XD I believe it's the one that they used as a basis for the Anime version. I remember that interview... http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/anime-spotlight/2012/summer/sword-art-online Speaking of Anime Contents Expo, you all actually made Elucidator (Kirito's sword) and displayed it? It's convenient to have a sword on hand as reference for the animation, so we originally planned to buy a cheap one. Elucidator is a little long for a one-handed sword, but we wanted to know what it was like to swing such a sword, and how it would move. Then our producer, Kashiwada-san, said, “Then why don't we make the real thing?” And he even talked about making Asuna's Lambentright in addition to Kirito's Elucidator. When we don't have events, all our animation staff uses them to practice their sword skills (smile). "The real question is how heavy it is. Because it needs to be heavier." You're probably gonna have to spend all your points in strength :D Another quoted quote Modified by ScarletMuse, 07-17-12, 6:37 PM |
#524
07-17-12, 7:38 PM
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Offline Joined: Jul 2011 Posts: 515 |
Man, can't lie this is damn good, but why do I feel like it's lacking something fundamental. Why can't I put my finer on it god dammit..... Well reading some of your comments maybe I feel like this is slightly rushed without me even realizing I feel this way. Maybe I was just looking for some of the extra character development that is in the LNs, but regardless still a great start to the series. Check out my Seasonal rankings and my Blog where I Rank the series airing in summer 2012 and just talk about the series in general. |
#525
07-17-12, 8:31 PM
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Ahh, anime seems a bit rushed, but I'm really excited~ I feel like reading the light novel now. Also, I wasn't expecting Kirito to be such a boss at the end |
#526
07-17-12, 10:02 PM
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I guess, it is as everybody mention about "Anime being too rushed then" While I could understand the logic behind each character action in most of the anime I watched. I not see much of logic here. So may someone explain this to me? 1. That knight guy, so it is in fact that he is just pretending to be a good guy, but greedy inside? Since he told that everybody will have equal distribution in the loot, and change the strategy that everybody should finish it together to his single finish just so that he could steal the rare to his own? (As MMO player myself, I would says that this kind of greedy person is failed as leader though.) 2. Main char seem to be the only guy who realized that the knight guy is such a greedy loot stealer, but he seem to think good of him when he flash it back?? 3. In any MMO, it is important to have party. as main char said so himself that there are many things impossible to do it alone. Then why he chose to act like a bad guys and ditch everybody in the end, when he is actually a nice guy and could lead them if he explain it well about how the boss pattern changed from beta? 4. Why is nobody slap those who keep complaining about beta tester this, beta tester that yet? Seriously, in real MMO, it is not beta tester job to start over with newbies and teach them how to play.. |
#527
07-17-12, 10:36 PM
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Ryser said: I guess, it is as everybody mention about "Anime being too rushed then" While I could understand the logic behind each character action in most of the anime I watched. I not see much of logic here. So may someone explain this to me? 1. That knight guy, so it is in fact that he is just pretending to be a good guy, but greedy inside? Since he told that everybody will have equal distribution in the loot, and change the strategy that everybody should finish it together to his single finish just so that he could steal the rare to his own? (As MMO player myself, I would says that this kind of greedy person is failed as leader though.) 2. Main char seem to be the only guy who realized that the knight guy is such a greedy loot stealer, but he seem to think good of him when he flash it back?? 3. In any MMO, it is important to have party. as main char said so himself that there are many things impossible to do it alone. Then why he chose to act like a bad guys and ditch everybody in the end, when he is actually a nice guy and could lead them if he explain it well about how the boss pattern changed from beta? 4. Why is nobody slap those who keep complaining about beta tester this, beta tester that yet? Seriously, in real MMO, it is not beta tester job to start over with newbies and teach them how to play.. I have explained this before, but that was nearly 500 messages ago. I'll post it again. s2012k1993 said: I haven't read the novel, but this episode seemed well paced. It also helped that the episode didn't stop every two minutes to explain what was going on. It was clear from the beginning that Diabel was hiding something from others. How could his party have located the first boss and known about the change in the boss' attack style unless they actually have fought the boss? How was it that he picked up on who Kibaou was doubting before anyone else did? Almost as if Diabel wanted to distance himself from the suspicion of being a beta tester. I'm not sure if Kirito immediately picked up on these suspicions, but Diabel definitely realized that Kirito was a beta tester. At least three times, Diabel casts a suspicious look towards Kirito's direction. Diabel even becomes best friends with Kibaou in order to portray himself as a leader/hero. That is what makes Diabel's sacrifice all the more surprising. If Diabel had been conniving against his party all along, he would have immediately grabbed Kirito's potion and healed himself. Instead he reveals his suspicions that Kirito was a beta tester to Kirito. This reveals to us Diabel's true intentions. He had already realized that there had been division between the beta testers and the first timers. He tried to bring the two groups together. Unfortunately, to an outsider, it would look as though he was plotting something behind their backs. The only way to maintain all his hard work so far and reveal his true intentions was through his sacrifice. Though, I have to admit, it did feel cheesy and a bit contrived, but I will give the episode the benefit of the doubt. Now what the episode did fail to clarify is how Diabel's actions changed Kirito. The only interaction I see of Kirito having with Diabel is Diabel's death scene. All of a sudden Kirito realizes Diabel's intentions and the meaning behind his sacrifice. The audience has been given clues about Diabel's intentions all along, but I haven't seen evidence that Kirito himself has noticed what we, the audience, have noticed. If the episode had worked on that, the final scene of Kirito's 'betrayal' would have made much more sense and carried a lot of depth. But, oh well, this is what we have. Finally, the reason, I assume, for people not getting along well is due to the very fact they are even playing the game. Realize that both Kirito and Asuna lack social skills. I wouldn't bet against others being the same in nature. After all, look at the normal Kirito's sister. She has no need to play SAO. The series wants us to assume that these players aren't all normal, at least in a social way. Modified by s2012k1993, 07-17-12, 10:40 PM |
#528
07-17-12, 10:44 PM
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Ryser said: 1. That knight guy, so it is in fact that he is just pretending to be a good guy, but greedy inside? Since he told that everybody will have equal distribution in the loot, and change the strategy that everybody should finish it together to his single finish just so that he could steal the rare to his own? (As MMO player myself, I would says that this kind of greedy person is failed as leader though.) 2. Main char seem to be the only guy who realized that the knight guy is such a greedy loot stealer, but he seem to think good of him when he flash it back?? 3. In any MMO, it is important to have party. as main char said so himself that there are many things impossible to do it alone. Then why he chose to act like a bad guys and ditch everybody in the end, when he is actually a nice guy and could lead them if he explain it well about how the boss pattern changed from beta? 4. Why is nobody slap those who keep complaining about beta tester this, beta tester that yet? Seriously, in real MMO, it is not beta tester job to start over with newbies and teach them how to play.. 1. He had mostly good intentions, but being one of the more selfish beta testers, he wanted to strengthen himself for the future. (imagine if they found out he was one, distrust or pk-ing him maybe...) Plus he's right in that, if they cleared a floor, more people may rise up and help in the future. (they were short several people for a full raid party...) 2. Kirito had respect for Diabel in the sense that, even though Diabel was selfish like Kirito in getting stronger (from both being beta testers), Diabel was willing to lead other players, and gather them up to fight together. Something Kirito himself couldn't do. (remember he was afraid of taking Klein's fellow friends - afraid of the blame of getting them killed if something goes wrong...) 3. He had to make sure there was no crazy beta tester witch hunt. So he had to show..err tell the people of the raid party, that even beta testers sucked. The 1000~ (minus whoever died from being confident...) won't be discriminated in the future thanks to his...on the fly plan. Only a few might (or just him.) 4. SAO is different from your regular MMO's cause well, you die when your avatar is defeated. They blame the beta testers because, they pretty much stayed in hiding or ditched the newbies to learn from themselves. (maybe failing to activate sword skills, or not knowing of stuns/cool down time, etc.) They probably thought of it this way, if the beta testers stayed, and took the time to help out, a good chunk of those 2000 deaths (besides the 213 when families/friends tampered with NervGear) may have been avoided. Plus their leader died in front of them anyway. So they probably would wonder "why the heck this beta tester guy didn't warn us sooner" or something... Modified by FlavoryFantasy, 07-17-12, 10:55 PM |
#529
07-18-12, 1:14 AM
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Well, I never read any of the light novels, (and frankly i'm surprised how many people here have), but I thought the episode was really good. I'm sure it sucks that it didn't cover a lot of material from the novels, but from someone who hasn't read them, it didn't really feel like it was missing anything. I wish they would of made the series longer to compensate for all the original content, but I think this series is really awesome so far. Still 2 episodes in, so it might get worse, or it might get even better. I'll definitely be watching every episode. |
#530
07-18-12, 1:15 AM
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Read the first four volumes of the LN. Good, but I don't really have a drive to continue reading. As for this episode, I was pleasantly surprised by the quality. As a reader of the LN, I can say the anime did a nice job with the introduction of Asuna and Kirito, the "beater" term, and Egil. |
#531
07-18-12, 3:30 AM
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Doesn't feel like rushed to me. I'm just thinking that this is just a one episode side story or somesort. I'm watching this without knowledge about the LN.v |
#532
07-18-12, 3:54 AM
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Ryser said: I guess, it is as everybody mention about "Anime being too rushed then" While I could understand the logic behind each character action in most of the anime I watched. I not see much of logic here. So may someone explain this to me? 1. That knight guy, so it is in fact that he is just pretending to be a good guy, but greedy inside? Since he told that everybody will have equal distribution in the loot, and change the strategy that everybody should finish it together to his single finish just so that he could steal the rare to his own? (As MMO player myself, I would says that this kind of greedy person is failed as leader though.) 2. Main char seem to be the only guy who realized that the knight guy is such a greedy loot stealer, but he seem to think good of him when he flash it back?? 3. In any MMO, it is important to have party. as main char said so himself that there are many things impossible to do it alone. Then why he chose to act like a bad guys and ditch everybody in the end, when he is actually a nice guy and could lead them if he explain it well about how the boss pattern changed from beta? 4. Why is nobody slap those who keep complaining about beta tester this, beta tester that yet? Seriously, in real MMO, it is not beta tester job to start over with newbies and teach them how to play.. 1. because many noobs there that will be killed if try to get last hit 2. because many noobs there that just play online game, so only few know about last hit 3. because you are noobs and just watch eps 1 and 2 so dont assumed that he will forever alone 4. because there are so many fuckin noobs !!!! |
#533
07-18-12, 4:08 AM
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Only 2 episode and already 400+ favorites |
#534
07-18-12, 4:17 AM
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First: Fuck you LN readers! Damn so fucking annoying every time comparing every little shit and the whole anime discussion becoming one big LN conversation comparison. Freaking annoying. It makes me wish they only made original anime. Now to the episode. Well interesting enough but personally am still just watching to see where this is going but i do have one big question about the eating scene. Why to they eat? Does it give them points or something? Because certainly eating in the game does nothing to your stomach in reality. Also what about their real body needs? I guess people that lived with others can be found and brought to a hospital where their bodily needs will be cared but people living alone could die from lack of food and water before they are found. I guess many of those 2000 didn't just die by losing in the game. |
#535
07-18-12, 4:41 AM
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Episode 3 preview |
#536
07-18-12, 4:48 AM
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Monad said: First: Fuck you LN readers! Damn so fucking annoying every time comparing every little shit and the whole anime discussion becoming one big LN conversation comparison. Freaking annoying. It makes me wish they only made original anime. Now to the episode. Well interesting enough but personally am still just watching to see where this is going but i do have one big question about the eating scene. Why to they eat? Does it give them points or something? Because certainly eating in the game does nothing to your stomach in reality. Also what about their real body needs? I guess people that lived with others can be found and brought to a hospital where their bodily needs will be cared but people living alone could die from lack of food and water before they are found. I guess many of those 2000 didn't just die by losing in the game. Sorry bout that. You know how much Harry Potter fans complained about the movie adaptations. It's kinda like that. As for your questions both were answered adequately in the novels but let me explain it to you as well. It wasn't really included in episode one but in the LNs Kayaba Akihiko gave the Japanese government a two hour grace period to disconnect the players from the main server in order to transport them to hospitals. This means every single SAO player, even those who live alone like Klein. As for hunger in-game the system is built such that a player feels hunger and fatigue in-game to presumably make it more realistic. When you eat in-game the system is just tricking your brain into thinking it's already full from eating virtual food. Real sustenance actually comes from liquid nutrients via IV drip. You can actually go w/out eating virtual food but you'll suffer from a constant feeling of virtual hunger. Same applies to rest and sleep. Worst case you'll suffer from cases of fainting when the fatigue is high enough. And if you faint on a dungeon or field that could be very VERY dangerous. |
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07-18-12, 5:21 AM
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ShoutaAzuma said: Episode 3 preview It looks like they are putting it into one episode again i dont know about that i feel it should be two episodes because of the way that short story was, it was perfect for splitting it into 2. They also seem to of shoved Argo the Rat into this episode which is strange since they cut her out of Aria in the Starless Night where she actualy did appear and played a somewhat meaningful role and put her into the third episode where she did not appear..... |
#538
07-18-12, 5:53 AM
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swordstriker21 said: Monad said: First: Fuck you LN readers! Damn so fucking annoying every time comparing every little shit and the whole anime discussion becoming one big LN conversation comparison. Freaking annoying. It makes me wish they only made original anime. Now to the episode. Well interesting enough but personally am still just watching to see where this is going but i do have one big question about the eating scene. Why to they eat? Does it give them points or something? Because certainly eating in the game does nothing to your stomach in reality. Also what about their real body needs? I guess people that lived with others can be found and brought to a hospital where their bodily needs will be cared but people living alone could die from lack of food and water before they are found. I guess many of those 2000 didn't just die by losing in the game. Sorry bout that. You know how much Harry Potter fans complained about the movie adaptations. It's kinda like that. As for your questions both were answered adequately in the novels but let me explain it to you as well. It wasn't really included in episode one but in the LNs Kayaba Akihiko gave the Japanese government a two hour grace period to disconnect the players from the main server in order to transport them to hospitals. This means every single SAO player, even those who live alone like Klein. As for hunger in-game the system is built such that a player feels hunger and fatigue in-game to presumably make it more realistic. When you eat in-game the system is just tricking your brain into thinking it's already full from eating virtual food. Real sustenance actually comes from liquid nutrients via IV drip. You can actually go w/out eating virtual food but you'll suffer from a constant feeling of virtual hunger. Same applies to rest and sleep. Worst case you'll suffer from cases of fainting when the fatigue is high enough. And if you faint on a dungeon or field that could be very VERY dangerous. Fine i get the hunger system in game but all the other stuff bring even more questions. If he disconnected the players for two hours couldn't they manage to pull them out of it at that time? Also did he also gave the government a list of the names of the players? Because as i said people living alone would have no one to notice they are in the game or when people knowing them do notice certainly will be after any two hours given, it could take days or weeks. Also was this guy already in hiding somewhere at the launch of the game? Because what he did will certainly make him a top list wanted man. They haven't managed to arrest him after a whole month? Maybe am just running ahead of myself and this will be answered in later episodes but if not then i really have to wonder. |
#539
07-18-12, 6:19 AM
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Monad said: swordstriker21 said: Monad said: First: Fuck you LN readers! Damn so fucking annoying every time comparing every little shit and the whole anime discussion becoming one big LN conversation comparison. Freaking annoying. It makes me wish they only made original anime. Now to the episode. Well interesting enough but personally am still just watching to see where this is going but i do have one big question about the eating scene. Why to they eat? Does it give them points or something? Because certainly eating in the game does nothing to your stomach in reality. Also what about their real body needs? I guess people that lived with others can be found and brought to a hospital where their bodily needs will be cared but people living alone could die from lack of food and water before they are found. I guess many of those 2000 didn't just die by losing in the game. Sorry bout that. You know how much Harry Potter fans complained about the movie adaptations. It's kinda like that. As for your questions both were answered adequately in the novels but let me explain it to you as well. It wasn't really included in episode one but in the LNs Kayaba Akihiko gave the Japanese government a two hour grace period to disconnect the players from the main server in order to transport them to hospitals. This means every single SAO player, even those who live alone like Klein. As for hunger in-game the system is built such that a player feels hunger and fatigue in-game to presumably make it more realistic. When you eat in-game the system is just tricking your brain into thinking it's already full from eating virtual food. Real sustenance actually comes from liquid nutrients via IV drip. You can actually go w/out eating virtual food but you'll suffer from a constant feeling of virtual hunger. Same applies to rest and sleep. Worst case you'll suffer from cases of fainting when the fatigue is high enough. And if you faint on a dungeon or field that could be very VERY dangerous. Fine i get the hunger system in game but all the other stuff bring even more questions. If he disconnected the players for two hours couldn't they manage to pull them out of it at that time? Also did he also gave the government a list of the names of the players? Because as i said people living alone would have no one to notice they are in the game or when people knowing them do notice certainly will be after any two hours given, it could take days or weeks. Also was this guy already in hiding somewhere at the launch of the game? Because what he did will certainly make him a top list wanted man. They haven't managed to arrest him after a whole month? Maybe am just running ahead of myself and this will be answered in later episodes but if not then i really have to wonder. Well you're right and some questions will be answered later on but I'll try to answer the ones w/c will not turn out into major spoilers kay^^ About the disconnection thing giving them a 2 hour grace actually served to reinforce the fact that everything was going according to Kayabas whims. There are several conditions w/c actually trigger the "kill switch" namely: disconnection from an outside source of electricity for ten minutes, being cut off from the system for more than two hours, or any attempt to: unlock, dismantle, or destroy the Nerve Gear. If any of these conditions are met, the brain destruction sequence will start. These conditions have been made known to the government and the public through mass-media in the outside world. This would effectively mean that while the government may try to go against the instructions there will still be a very large risk of killing off the players. They need to race the clock and find a way to dismantle the NervGear in under two hours or the players will die. The machine has enough black boxes to baffle even the co-developers who worked w/ Kayaba. Granted that they do find a way to remove it will there be enough time and knowledgeable manpower to effectively carry it out all throughout the country and actually make it in time to save all the thousands of players trapped in-game? Will the parents and friends actually agree to play "russian roulette" w/ the lives of their loved ones at stake? Lot's of problems and the government was basically just as confused and panicked as the players were. |
#540
07-18-12, 7:03 AM
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Monad said: First: Fuck you LN readers! Damn so fucking annoying every time comparing every little shit and the whole anime discussion becoming one big LN conversation comparison. Freaking annoying. It makes me wish they only made original anime. Now to the episode. Well interesting enough but personally am still just watching to see where this is going but i do have one big question about the eating scene. Why to they eat? Does it give them points or something? Because certainly eating in the game does nothing to your stomach in reality. Also what about their real body needs? I guess people that lived with others can be found and brought to a hospital where their bodily needs will be cared but people living alone could die from lack of food and water before they are found. I guess many of those 2000 didn't just die by losing in the game. Because of the anime I decided to look into the LN and reading the side story and this episode is based off of I felt like alot of things would have had more meaning had they portraited it in a different way. The anime isn't bad hell from someone who was new to the series I didn't think it was bad at all, I had a couple similiar concerns as posted in the comments above but I didn't let them eat away at me. After reading the LN It gave me of a background on Asuna, in the anime you sort of meet a random player and just befriend them but in the LN shes like this completely negative girl who just things its fine to die when it happens ... resting in safe areas of dungeons and not leaving the dungeon until she has weared out her weapons. Small things like this gave another scenes like her running up to Kirito has he leaves and breaking a smile and giggle more significance because you see her transform from someone who didn't interact with anyone to someone who is more open to help and advice after her time with Kirito (alot of which was cut off). And then thats just a small portion of my concerns but I won't list them out on here, if you're curious you can always look into it yourself. The anime would definitely take too long had they tried to tend to every little need of the LN but I can see where the fans are coming from as well after reading them. |









