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Jul 15, 2012 2:06 PM
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Can't we agree that the reason you have a 12 year old who is dressed like a slut is because they live in a tropical island..... the way she dresses isnt reasonable enough to hate her.
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So yesterday i finished watching the original E7 series for what feels like the 20th time, and at episode 50 at the end, there was a crayon drawing of Axel, the kids, Eureka and Renton together, does anyone know what that means? If R&E came back afterwards? Cuz if they did AO would make a lot more sense*
Jul 15, 2012 4:01 PM
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Watch renton get an Adroc Thurston scene where he doesnt say anything but smile while his kid is crying on his lap.
Jul 15, 2012 6:41 PM
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I can see that happening.. but there wouldnt be any development between them. at least renton has become a better father figure towards maeter, linck, and maurice. let's hope that there is dialogue between the two
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Wonder If this tells us anything?
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I don't really care what kind of Eureka we are seeing.
I'm just glad it's Eureka. :D
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Jul 15, 2012 8:57 PM
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Third engine hahaha i guess no one knows how trapars are used yet except for generation bleu.
Jul 15, 2012 10:58 PM

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Wonder If this tells us anything?

Remind me again where this scene was taken?
Jul 16, 2012 3:39 AM

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^Episode 13, that's the US Army notes when they were checking on the Gekko Go.

So another question that pops up now is:

What happened that made Eureka want to go back 13 years before the time she met AO in order to give birth to him? Or it is not that she chose?

And if she did, why Okinawa... or that wasn't chosen either?

And why she disappeared when AO was a child?

edit: I have a question, Eureka stayed with AO and his "grandpa" the doctor for how long? 3 years?
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It's like "Back to the Future" in another dimension
Jul 16, 2012 9:51 AM
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AGuyNamedJason said:
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I F*CKING TOLD YOU ALL.

I told you that the coralian ability of time/space-travel would factor into this, meaning that there would be two worlds!

Or rather, I told you.

I still don't see what's so surprising about it, though, since the first scene of the first episode pretty much says straight out, "THIS SERIES TAKES PLACE IN THE PAST, JUST SO WE'RE CLEAR ON THAT".


I'm more than a little bit sure that I had the idea of a possibility of both the "Two Worlds" + "Time Travel" being one singular possibility. I was right.

Everyone else at the time was thinking that this took place in the future, referencing Moondoggie's '2005' licence, and AO's 2025 start date.


Just for the sake of accuracy you were saying AO took place after Eureka Seven when WAHa was saying that AO takes place long before it. WAHa is correct, he was the one who told you. Just look at page 2 of your "Yes - this is the original Earth." thread.

It's not something worth arguing over.


Jumping the gun too soon EH ?

we dont even know if these are 2 same worlds let alone know what's the past what the future is.
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triforcebih said:
AGuyNamedJason said:
BRSxIgnition said:
WAHa_06x36 said:
BRSxIgnition said:
I F*CKING TOLD YOU ALL.

I told you that the coralian ability of time/space-travel would factor into this, meaning that there would be two worlds!

Or rather, I told you.

I still don't see what's so surprising about it, though, since the first scene of the first episode pretty much says straight out, "THIS SERIES TAKES PLACE IN THE PAST, JUST SO WE'RE CLEAR ON THAT".


I'm more than a little bit sure that I had the idea of a possibility of both the "Two Worlds" + "Time Travel" being one singular possibility. I was right.

Everyone else at the time was thinking that this took place in the future, referencing Moondoggie's '2005' licence, and AO's 2025 start date.


Just for the sake of accuracy you were saying AO took place after Eureka Seven when WAHa was saying that AO takes place long before it. WAHa is correct, he was the one who told you. Just look at page 2 of your "Yes - this is the original Earth." thread.

It's not something worth arguing over.


Jumping the gun too soon EH ?

we dont even know if these are 2 same worlds let alone know what's the past what the future is.


Like a boss =)
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So this is prequel or sequel?
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Jeff1244 said:
So this is prequel or sequel?


Its a sequel..
Jul 16, 2012 2:05 PM
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It could be a prequel to what's to become Eureka 7.

Pre/sequel
Jul 16, 2012 2:06 PM
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Truth is such a fag.
Jul 16, 2012 5:02 PM

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What's going on with him? To tell my opinion, up until this episode I thought Truth supported Eureka but then he goes and tries to kill her.
Jul 16, 2012 5:29 PM
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Ilocanos said:
It could be a prequel to what's to become Eureka 7.

Pre/sequel


please spare us your logic.

BONES said its a sequel so yeah. It's a sequel ?????
Jul 16, 2012 9:01 PM
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Ilocanos said:
It could be a prequel to what's to become Eureka 7.

Pre/sequel

That hardly makes sense seeing as how Eureka traveled back in time after the events of the prequel.
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The last two episodes have been very interesting and have revealed certain details that imply the nature in the plot device that is currently in use. If this Eureka is real and from the future then it's likely what we have here is a form of time travel. As to how exactly this concept works in the anime has not been explained enough but the main concern I saw in the episode could be related to paradoxes occurring in the timeline.

If this world is real and the setting is taking place in the past then secrets are likely manifestations from the universe to correct any anomalies within the timeline. This would explain why their shapes resemble something from the world in psalms of planets. Perhaps what they are trying to do is make sure these forms exist in the future. The idea would also make sense if we consider Eureka saying they were not the enemy. This would also explain the behavior in some secrets like the one appearing in Philadelphia 1752 when B. Franklin was supposed to conduct his kite experiment. If there was some interference from the scub coral, then the secret would have made sure the event occurred by using its lightning generating abilities.

As for truth, if he turns out to be the same secret that attacked Eureka during the Okinawan scub burst, then Eureka leaving in the scub burst with the quartz would explain why he has taken a form very similar to her own. If Truth is obsessed with having Eureka and the fact he does not say why could mean he is simply carrying out his role as a secret to eliminate Eureka's presence due its effects on the timeline. However, all of this would only make sense if what Eureka told Ao that something terrible would happen and for him to return her to the future had something to do with her own timeline collapsing. This might be the reason why Eureka decides to take the mark I Renton should have completed by then back to repeat the loop.

Personally, I don't believe this is a prequel to explain how the scub coral have come to exist because this would not explain why Truth states the world cannot be fixed. To me, this would make sense if what he meant was that history is being changed by the scub coral. As for why, the only logical explanation I could come up with lies with what Gonzy stated in the final episdoe. He states the scub coral and humans would use separate universes until they could find a way for both to coexist side by side. What interests me however is what he says after and states there is no reason why there should not be more than one path in evolution. If this statement has any significance, then it would mean the scub coral are trying to achieve coexistence with humans by altering their evolution. If the scub coral took half of earth's life with them then it might have been done for this purpose. The idea might be explained with characters like Naru as well as Elena while the conflicts with the timeline could be something the scub coral did not foresee as having a connection with the future.

Anyway my ridiculous speculation aside, I am interested in how Bones decides to carry out the plot.
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The reason why i said a prequel. In terms of the timeline. The events of Ao take place before Eureka 7 actually happened. We are witnessing how the scub coral may have taken over the Earth. we probably gona witness how the people escape earth. or better yet.. maybe the people in earth is gona coexist with the scub.. who knows.. we dont know.

I agree it's sequel because we are following Eureka and Renton's son, but im just looking at the big picture that everything is occuring before events of Eureka 7, before the exodus.
Jul 17, 2012 9:08 AM
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Great episode. This series has improved immensely over the last 3 or 4 episodes. Any time Truth is thwarted I'm a happy man. And seeing hearing that Renton and Eureka consummated their love puts a smile on my face. Really looking forward to next week's reveal.
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Jul 17, 2012 9:12 AM

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About the prequel / sequel thing... I believe Ilocanos is on the dot. Its sequel that takes place before the events of the original Eureka Seven. The world Ao is on, I believe, is Earth before humans migrated to the world with Trapar (aka original E7 world).
Jul 17, 2012 9:14 AM
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predicting and speculating is one thing

taking that as facts is a totaly different thing.

tell me.

what if AO is a different dimension ?

and what if the year 2025 in AO is maybe the year 15000 in E7

that would make AO's world the future compared to the E7 world.

ilocanos is probably right ( like the rest of the fanbase since we all got the same opinion ) but dont accept it as a fact just yet
Jul 17, 2012 9:37 AM

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triforcebih said:
predicting and speculating is one thing

taking that as facts is a totaly different thing.

tell me.

what if AO is a different dimension ?

and what if the year 2025 in AO is maybe the year 15000 in E7

that would make AO's world the future compared to the E7 world.

ilocanos is probably right ( like the rest of the fanbase since we all got the same opinion ) but dont accept it as a fact just yet


True we still have to see. I'm just taking what I read from the information on Eureka 7 Ao on wiki and other websites I've found.
Jul 17, 2012 10:13 AM

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Its weird how waiting to see Eureka can make the days go slower =/
Jul 17, 2012 10:34 AM

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This is just speculation, and its based on earlier posts but anyway.. My question, Elena Peoples has purple/pink hair yeah sure..but wtf is up with the lavender eyes? Isnt that a coralian - only trait?
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LucarioNate said:
About the prequel / sequel thing... I believe Ilocanos is on the dot. Its sequel that takes place before the events of the original Eureka Seven. The world Ao is on, I believe, is Earth before humans migrated to the world with Trapar (aka original E7 world).

The original E7 world IS Earth.
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Jeff1244 said:
So this is prequel or sequel?

It's a sequel insofar that Ao is Eureka and Renton's child, and that the characters from the original series who've aged post-ending will have an active role at some point in this one (Eureka and indirectly, Renton, already have). Now, I think it's safe to say that in the ORIGINAL timeline (original E7), 10,000 years in the past, there didn't seem to be Secrets at this point, and only the growth of a relatively unintelligent and unstoppable Scub Coral -- what's going on in AO seems to directly contradict what happened ten-thousand years prior in the original series; this almost certainly has to do with Scub bursts changing events that happened in the past, as the destination of a scub burst doesn't seem to be effected by space and time (it can happen anywhere, at any time).

Secrets on the other hand, are still a complete mystery at this point, and it's yet to be seen what intended function they carry out. Most likely, their purpose seems to be either averting another possible Limit of Questions scenario, or perhaps even to destroy or transport these pockets of Scub back to their original timeline, or a more suitable one. The problem, however, seems to be that they're fully automated, and don't perceive the world in the same sense that humans do (via sight, sound, and etc.); only through a ZOA. They don't seem to be completely benevolent, however, as they specifically target human-shaped objects within this zone. They also seem to be vaguely machine-like in a sort of way, almost kind of like the Anti-Spiral's constructs from Gurren-Lagann (I couldn't think of a more similar parallel, visually). It's also yet to be seen how their forms, seemingly shaped from the memories of others, are created.

Anyways, coming back to the original point, while it certainly seems to be a sequel, I guess you could also say it's a sort of pseudo-prequel, in the fact that this story takes place in the past (these past events seem to differ from how it happened in the original series, though there could be similar outcomes). When taking into consideration what happened to humans (a ten-thousand year exodus) I expect an interesting, if not grim turn of events; if humanity doesn't embark on an apocalyptic exodus, then it's completely changed the future forever (though it remains unseen if it'll change the original's timeline, such as wiping it from existence). However, let's assume that the exodus will be necessary; what sort of event could cause it at this point? Will a feral, unintelligent (primordial) Scub show itself like it would have in the original timeline? Or will a different sort of apocalypse occur altogether? Maybe Truth's ultimate goal is the destruction of humanity; to prevent the exodus, and make way for a world where only the Scub will prosper.

Too many scenarios, too many contingencies -- there remains much to be seen, and I'm excited to see it unravel.
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So, this is what I get so far.
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lets say the earth in AO and E7 is the same earth.

Remember the satalite in space named Eureka that crashed into the ocean and so began the creation of coral scub...

now lets go back to AO. Gen Blue got a base in space... full of scub material...

see where im getting at ?

i dont think is what happened but its mind blowing nonetheless.
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It's finally started... the long awaited sequel that I waited for finally started YAY!!!
Now we are getting the connection and I can raise my score to 9/10 =)
Elena... Anemone's and dominic daughter? Probably with that pink hair..
Jul 17, 2012 12:45 PM

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My feelings towards this show grew by 99.9897% since the appearance of Eureka =D definitly a turn for the better and + Im starting to love the new tunes too! Go E7AO GO GO!
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@Triforce.. If thats the case then i really dont know where or how the scub coral began because:

1. The scubs dont know how they began. all thats known is that a satalite crashed landed into earth contaminated with scub material that you say came from generation bleu.

2. Okay so where did generation bleu get the scub material? From the scub bursts, and where do scub bursts come from? The future/alternate dimension.

3. So that means.. The scubs indirectly created themselves due to future/alternate dimension scubs interfering with the current timeline.

If thats the case than my god. =|.
Jul 17, 2012 1:51 PM
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How was Truth able to recognize Eureka's presence?? because that Scub Coral came from that future.. As Gonzy said in episode 50, that half of the scub coral is going to a different planet, which explains why eureka and renton are investigating the disappearinig scub coral. God, who knows how the scub got to that dimension.. maybe it got sucked up by a wormhole and boom arrived at present day Earth.

That's how i think everything was all set in place. We still have unanswered questions. like how/why Eureka returned to Earth at 9 months pregnant (13 years before Ao's birth)..
I feel that Truth is the first "anti-body human coralian". like these secrets have to be like a primary defense mechanism before evolving into what it was.

plus wikipedia... I mean we can't always totally agree what wikipedia says since it is mixture of both opinion of the people and the content provided by the show. so we dont truly know what's going on.
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@Triforce.. If thats the case then i really dont know where or how the scub coral began because:

1. The scubs dont know how they began. all thats known is that a satalite crashed landed into earth contaminated with scub material that you say came from generation bleu.

2. Okay so where did generation bleu get the scub material? From the scub bursts, and where do scub bursts come from? The future/alternate dimension.

3. So that means.. The scubs indirectly created themselves due to future/alternate dimension scubs interfering with the current timeline.

If thats the case than my god. =|.


That's an impossible paradox, however, just like: "What came first? The chicken, or the egg?". No offense to creationists, but from an evolutionary perspective, we all know it's a lot more complicated than that.

The original Scub most likely had an extraterrestrial origin, drifting through space as an inert, primitive life-form.

Cue a crazy little theory; the Scub Coral is an unintentional evolution of a bio-organic weapon that was meant to destroy planets / civilizations, growing over and encroaching upon everything. It would be interesting to see the threat of another extraterrestrial race, and one of the possible directions the series could take, if there was a need for more conflict. Somehow, however, I doubt secrets factor into such a scenario. Probably because this is just a crackpot theory, and more than likely, not what will happen at all. : P
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Corona01 said:
@Triforce.. If thats the case then i really dont know where or how the scub coral began because:

1. The scubs dont know how they began. all thats known is that a satalite crashed landed into earth contaminated with scub material that you say came from generation bleu.

2. Okay so where did generation bleu get the scub material? From the scub bursts, and where do scub bursts come from? The future/alternate dimension.

3. So that means.. The scubs indirectly created themselves due to future/alternate dimension scubs interfering with the current timeline.

If thats the case than my god. =|.


u overcomplicated it.

all i meant was:

e7 and ao earth are the same thing.

gne blue had scub quartz ( which glows green ) in space.

somehow the scub and secrets exerminated each other on earth.

some time passed

the old satalite crashed and the scub quartz merged with corals making scub coral. ( funny how EUREKA satalite had green glowing stuff too )
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I wonder, If my theory is even somewhat true, inst it possible that the Gekko states ship would give the humans the tech it would need to go into space and travel rather quickly. That is of course if it doesn't go back to the future with Eureka. Because like i said their really isn't much high level tech on the planet that would allow a exodus into space for 10,000 years.
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Dangerr, I know that but its great to think about. So many possibilities, this series has generated so much controversy. But you make a good point. Triforce my apologies there bro i just couldnt help but ponder.
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I have a theory on why Renton built a completely mechanical Nirvash. If he knew about AO's world, it's possible he wants as little "future tech" as possible on a mech that he knows he is sending to the past.
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raidenhc said:
I have a theory on why Renton built a completely mechanical Nirvash. If he knew about AO's world, it's possible he wants as little "future tech" as possible on a mech that he knows he is sending to the past.

The Nirvash Mark I (believed to be built by Renton) is the basis for all IFOs so it's a little too late for "future tech" to not make an impact.
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raidenhc said:
I have a theory on why Renton built a completely mechanical Nirvash. If he knew about AO's world, it's possible he wants as little "future tech" as possible on a mech that he knows he is sending to the past.


There is nothing to indicate Renton has any clue about Ao's Earth. They were still in the process of experimenting to discover the cause of the disappearing Scub Coral when Eureka was accidentally sent back in time, and he had already began work on the Mark I by that point, so it's very unlikely he was designing the craft to be taken back to the past.
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Funny when everyone who's been hating on this series now starts to like it, I find myself liking this show less when it's trying to bring back the old characters. Please enough Renton, I can't stand him let alone hear his name...I swear if he shows up I'm dropping this show without hestiation. Such an annoying brat, one of the worst characters I've ever seen. I can handle Eureka even if she's the most boring character I've ever seen, and definitely love seeing the Gekko back but Renton...that prick needs to stay the hell out of this show.

Disappointed, I really hoped this show would take a different direction...

2/5
Trololol.


Don't worry, we just have ourselves a hipster. He doesn't feel quite himself when other people like something he liked first.
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So to bring back an old point and sub-topic. Here is my Elena theory...

Elena is Ao's sister. Yes, it's crazy but here is my rational. Based upon the information in this conversation, Eureka first came back 13 years ago in story time. At the beginning/mid of this episode when Ao told Eureka " Hope you have a healthy son" (Yes it is paraphrased, but he basically says that in different words), Eureka becomes confused and replys with, "No, it's a girl. the doctors just confirmed that it's a girl." So the first child she has would be Elena in a different location. She then goes back to the future through a scub burst to talk to Renton about the past earth leaving Elena behind. Eventually, Eureka returns back to the past earth with the Mark I and this time pregnant with Ao. The main effective point that makes this theory work is that there is a secret trip to the past that Eureka took that no one knows about.

I know that it is mostly speculative, but I firmly believe this is what happened especially after Eureka confirming that Ao has a sister and Ao's Grandpa's reaction to that news.
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I'm soo confused! Trying to grasp this episode here.. Time traveling aspect IS a bit confusing..two Eruekas? How was the adult Eurka talking to ao though that transmitter thingy? She wants him to go to her world? idunnnoo.
Jul 23, 2012 2:24 PM
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Loved it. It's getting epic.
Someone really needs to show Truth some humility. He's the Gilgamesh of this show.
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so she got the name for her baby from the AO (baby) in the future? lawl
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Wait a sec...pregnant with a GIRL?

....Naru?

....no....ELENA?!
Aug 30, 2012 11:41 PM
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Corona01 said:
Anyone else prefer the english dubbed version of Eureka 7? Or want Eureka 7 Ao to be dubbed? Apparently its planned that its gonna be dubbed. I just hope Stephanie Sheh stays as the voice actor for Eureka, anyone else would just annoy me =|


Absolutely loved the dub as well, I really hope Funi can pull off getting Stephanie Sheh back as Eureka, it just wouldn't be right without her. :)

Atleast there's a chance since they've gotten JYB a few times even for some new roles (like in Basara) over at Funi so I think they could pull off getting her in for Eureka (especially now that she's gotten a decent number of lines). At least I really hope they can.
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the points starting to connect, very good eps

btw at that time Ao was 2 years old, but Naru looks like 4-5 years old, i thought they suppose to be same age?
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