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07-03-12, 12:22 PM

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i like it so far hope it doesn't start to bore me later!
 
07-03-12, 12:39 PM

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Not sure what to think of this so far. Having an anime about such a rich part of Japan's culture is really interesting, but at the same time I'm not entirely sure yet that it's suited to the medium either. First part was the better of the two. Found the deformed face comedy a little awkward, didn't really feel right in this kind of storytelling. Overall I liked it though.
 
07-03-12, 1:09 PM

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That was VERY enjoyable. Romantic<33
 
07-03-12, 1:25 PM

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I find this anime really hard to connect to because I do not know any of the poems.
I understand that the anime is explaining the meanings of poems. But still, it doesn't mean anything when I don't know the poems...
 
07-03-12, 1:42 PM

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hikky said:
I felt that the stories were too short and the characters too under-developed so I couldn't get into it so far.
Have to agree, but the first one was generally fine and awesome that they started with the poem from Chihaya's best card.
 
07-03-12, 2:13 PM

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Honestly it was Chihayafuru that made me really consider this, though I did plan to try it out sometime anyway. I'm glad that it wasn't serious and boring, but something a little refreshing from Fujiwara's intro right at the start. The OP and ED are also good!

For the actual romances, they were enjoyable but the episode wasn't fantastic. I really like the art, though, and nonetheless I will continue to watch the series. It left a good first impression.

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07-03-12, 2:14 PM

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Well this is interesting. It's true half an episode's time is quite short to develop the characters, but I felt it did that quite well in both parts. I doubt all of the 100 poems have interesting stories behind them, and I'm assuming they'll just focus on the more fascinating ones. This one worked because the two stories are somewhat connected, but I'd prefer if they kept to one per episode. But that itself may be hard considering the source of these stories.
 
07-03-12, 2:35 PM

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Action is my favorite genre but this is the best new show so far.

I think i like it a lot more because its doing my favorite history of japan the Heian period.

It also seems like a Seinen also one of my favorite genre in anime. So no more stupid shy school kids. lol

I liked all the music so far. I just hope it keeps doing this great pace.
 
07-03-12, 2:38 PM

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Pretty interesting :3
 
07-03-12, 2:46 PM

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This was weird, but still interesting in a good way. Will continue for now :)

The OP was very good. The ED was utter garbage.

3/5

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07-03-12, 3:10 PM

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Not much of a romantic, I see.


Nope, never have been. Its unbelievably rare when there's a couple/romance in an anime that I actually care about.
 
07-03-12, 3:21 PM

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It appeals to my girlish senses, but it's honestly not that interesting. If the one-episode characters would have more depth, like in Mushishi, I would be able to enjoy it more. Anyway though, this is just a bunch of people loving each other, rather than something more meaningful. Oh well, it'll be fun for a while. I like the poems.

Maybe I'll have to drop it later, but right now I'll keep watching.
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07-03-12, 4:59 PM

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It wasn't bad, but there was barely development. They could have spent the whole episode on Narihira x Takaiko, rather moving to his brother.

Overall, I liked the atmosphere...
 
07-03-12, 6:25 PM

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Chihaya poem! Woot! I'm sure most Chihayafuru fans will watch this simply because of the poems.

As for me i did enjoy this. It has its charm. The meeting between the two brothers gave me a good laugh, although the wacky-ness of the first love story did remove some of the romanticism and serious vibes from it.
The art is nice to look at.

OP was nice. WTF at the ED though. The melody was sort of appropriate but the random rap was very out of place.
 
07-03-12, 7:28 PM

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Vyudali said:
Chihaya poem! Woot! I'm sure most Chihayafuru fans will watch this simply because of the poems.


I watched this because of Chihayafuru :D
 
07-03-12, 8:27 PM

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Onigiri_Otaku said:
Vyudali said:
Chihaya poem! Woot! I'm sure most Chihayafuru fans will watch this simply because of the poems.


I watched this because of Chihayafuru :D


yeay!me too!!
when i see the woman wearing crimson, i know immediately that chihaya's best card will come out

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07-03-12, 8:42 PM

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In 15 minutes, this episode told a better love story then Twilight.


And yes, the only reason I'm interested was from Chihayafuru. xD
 
07-03-12, 8:57 PM
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I think Chihayafuru not only built a big chunk of the audience for this show, but probably has created some buzz around the 100 poets and Heian period in general. If this keeps up I'll have to blow off the dust from my copy of The Tale of Genji and actually finish it. I think it will be worth watching just to absorb the culture of court life at that time--although I'll also appreciate the romance since seduction seems to have been one of the major forms of entertainment for both men and women in the Heian period.
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07-03-12, 10:18 PM

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So little people watching this o.o

Well, I liked the visuals and music.

Gonna keep watching because of this.

The story and comedy weren't that great.

I give a 3.
 
07-03-12, 10:37 PM

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Interesting story.. and the ED is indeed out of place but still catchy..
the poems reminds me of Chihayafuru *smiles*

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07-03-12, 11:05 PM

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Not for me, just not my thing will pass on this one.



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07-03-12, 11:59 PM

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This was ONE poetic tale? Does this mean this anime will be 100 episodes long? :l

Not sure what to think of it. It's sweet, but I can see myself being bored by it soon.

Nope, on the 1rst ep it says that it will have 43 poems. The 1rst ep had like 3-4 poems already. Possibly a 12 ep anime.
 
07-04-12, 3:47 AM

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First half I thought this would be an annoying fangirl pandering with smooth bishies everywhere, but the second half with its teasing part realy made up for it. That was pretty good.
 
07-04-12, 4:06 AM

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This is pretty interesting. Didn't expect much, but I've been interested in Karuta ever since two seasons ago.
 
07-04-12, 4:12 AM

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This is better than I thought it would be.Plus the ending & opening songs are pretty good even though they don't suit the series at all.
 
07-04-12, 6:23 AM

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I have to say, learning a little about japanese poetry in university has paid off a little :D
I started translating those poems on my own and compared them to the interpretation presented, and HOLY CRAP IS THAT AWESOME XD But I think you're missing half the fun if you do not understand the language connotations there by yourself ^_^

Like in the "tachi wakare" poem, the guy in the second part uses "inaba no yama no mine ni ofuru matsu to shi kikaba ima kaerikomu". "inaba no yama no mine ni ofuru" means just "growing/sprouting on the peak of mount Inaba" and "kikaba ima kaerikomu" means "If I hear (you), I will return right away".

The fun part is in the middle. See, the "matsu" could mean either "to wait" or "a pine tree". What this guy did, was to make two words into a single one and made it so that it doesn't make sense if you don't read/see/know both meanings. "Pines" being the logical follow up to "sprouting" and the reason for "to shi" comparison (which isn't really a comparison, but whatever), and without "waiting" you'd get "Like the pines I'd return" or "Like the pines I have to leave" or something like that. Which makes little sense now, doesn't it?

So yes, this means "I will wait like the pines growing on the peak of mount Inaba", but "the pines" and "I will wait" are actually a single word there with two meanings ^_^

The way Narihisa actually alluded to Takaiko's body - "Even gods haven't heard of the water that flows in the crimson of Tatsuta river" Is also a pure genius material :D

In the mentioned university I had a professor (though he only had a doctorate... don't know the correct word, because "doctor" - is what we call them here - doesn't sound right... or am I wrong?) who always said that "Japanese poetry is something weird, he doesn't get it, and they clearly must've been crazy when they were writing it" and always laughed it off, but damn if this isn't brilliant example of Japanese language :D

Sorry about my ramblings here, it's just that I'm amazed at the level of that poetry ^_^ I will definitely keep watching this.

PS: Also, I love the fact that everyone is discussing animation, character development, music, plot etc. And I'm the only one so far that gets off of the actual poems that started it all :D
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07-04-12, 7:49 AM

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I initially, like most others, only got into this because of Chihayafuru. However, the Hyakunin Isshu does sound interesting to explore, even in a liberal interpretation of classic poems.

To those complaining about lack of character depth compared to Mushishi: those stories had double the amount of time to work with their material than Utakoi. What I like about Utakoi is that while the characters are simple, I could easily attach to them and the romances are actually much less juvenile and more heartfelt than most other anime titles out there. I easily attached to the second poem due to personal reasons, but the presentation of both stories got me attached and the art was just plain ol' gorgeous. The ED was out of place and stupid, and this will probably be the first one I skip for any anime in awhile.

Needless to say, I don't understand the language, so I can't understand the translation of the original poems, but this is easily something I can have fun analyzing alongside fellow viewers who know the language/poems.

tl;dr: Easily the dark horse of the season. Looking forward to it from here on.
 
07-04-12, 9:25 AM

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To those complaining about lack of character depth compared to Mushishi: those stories had double the amount of time to work with their material than Utakoi.


That. Keep in mind, that the poems you heard were presented in their entirety, and from what I know, all additional info was based upon some chronicles probably. (this is another reason why I like the Chihayafuru poem; If you didn't know history, you'd really think that he was talking about autumn scenery :) ) Taking into account that the Heian period lasted roughly from 800 until 1200 AD, it's obvious that
1) The studio will have to make up some of the story
2) The show will be more focused on actual poetry, not on the character development which will be... well, nonexistant pretty much. It's not about epic and dramatic love stories, it's about showing you the background for the poetry. You know, a little bit of culture in an easy to swallow pill.

And I agree with Pensuke that the stories despite being underdeveloped are actually pretty easy to connect with, what with being much more mature. Again, keep in mind this is the actual culture from Heian era (minus some liberties like the language being spoken). They really were leading a pretty loose sexual life, with men sneaking into women's estates at night and so on - which by the way brought about the downfall of Heian-kyo (capital) and the whole period, because while they were screwing each other around and writing their poetry, outside of capital there were bandit raids, rebellions and so on... Well aristocracy didn't really care, they were busy choosing the color of the paper on which they were supposed to write a letter, thanking the other party for a wonderful last night and choosing which flower should go with it (and this was serious business back then, trust me) :]
Of course Emperor was a different story altogether, but that's pretty obvious.



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Maurox said:
I have to say, learning a little about japanese poetry in university has paid off a little :D
I started translating those poems on my own and compared them to the interpretation presented, and HOLY CRAP IS THAT AWESOME XD But I think you're missing half the fun if you do not understand the language connotations there by yourself ^_^

Like in the "tachi wakare" poem, the guy in the second part uses "inaba no yama no mine ni ofuru matsu to shi kikaba ima kaerikomu". "inaba no yama no mine ni ofuru" means just "growing/sprouting on the peak of mount Inaba" and "kikaba ima kaerikomu" means "If I hear (you), I will return right away".

The fun part is in the middle. See, the "matsu" could mean either "to wait" or "a pine tree". What this guy did, was to make two words into a single one and made it so that it doesn't make sense if you don't read/see/know both meanings. "Pines" being the logical follow up to "sprouting" and the reason for "to shi" comparison (which isn't really a comparison, but whatever), and without "waiting" you'd get "Like the pines I'd return" or "Like the pines I have to leave" or something like that. Which makes little sense now, doesn't it?

So yes, this means "I will wait like the pines growing on the peak of mount Inaba", but "the pines" and "I will wait" are actually a single word there with two meanings ^_^

The way Narihisa actually alluded to Takaiko's body - "Even gods haven't heard of the water that flows in the crimson of Tatsuta river" Is also a pure genius material :D

In the mentioned university I had a professor (though he only had a doctorate... don't know the correct word, because "doctor" - is what we call them here - doesn't sound right... or am I wrong?) who always said that "Japanese poetry is something weird, he doesn't get it, and they clearly must've been crazy when they were writing it" and always laughed it off, but damn if this isn't brilliant example of Japanese language :D

Sorry about my ramblings here, it's just that I'm amazed at the level of that poetry ^_^ I will definitely keep watching this.

PS: Also, I love the fact that everyone is discussing animation, character development, music, plot etc. And I'm the only one so far that gets off of the actual poems that started it all :D


That was very informative, thanks ^^
 
07-04-12, 10:01 AM

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No problem. I can try and post similar interpretations with future episodes if I find something interesting like that again.

BTW, did HS explain what was the "Namu Amida Butsu"? I didn't notice the TL Note >_>
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07-04-12, 10:25 AM

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Ending sounds out of place for this anime.

Love the opening.


my thoughts exactly! xD
 
07-04-12, 1:03 PM

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Maurox said:
The fun part is in the middle. See, the "matsu" could mean either "to wait" or "a pine tree". What this guy did, was to make two words into a single one and made it so that it doesn't make sense if you don't read/see/know both meanings. "Pines" being the logical follow up to "sprouting" and the reason for "to shi" comparison (which isn't really a comparison, but whatever), and without "waiting" you'd get "Like the pines I'd return" or "Like the pines I have to leave" or something like that. Which makes little sense now, doesn't it?

So yes, this means "I will wait like the pines growing on the peak of mount Inaba", but "the pines" and "I will wait" are actually a single word there with two meanings ^_^


This poem has one more pivot-word.
The word いなば (inaba) is a place name (因幡), but it also means 去なば (leave).

-- My translation --
Though we are parted
And I leave for Inaba where on the peak of the mountain
The pines grow
When I hear you pine (wait) for me
I'll come back to you at once.
 
07-04-12, 3:42 PM

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The_Straw-Hat said:
This was ONE poetic tale? Does this mean this anime will be 100 episodes long? :l

Not sure what to think of it. It's sweet, but I can see myself being bored by it soon.


wasn't it two? One for the first story and the other in the second.
 
07-04-12, 3:55 PM

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I'm liking this a lot suprisingly! Will follow.
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07-05-12, 2:22 AM

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Huge disappointment. Disliked both op and ed, the black outline irritates me to no end and the stories were average at best.
 
07-05-12, 11:08 AM

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Too bad of the cheesy designs, which makes it more childish. Is there anyone else here who read Genji Monogatari as I am? Cause I am confused why they use these names, cause the story seems pretty much the same as Genji.

Oh, that ED was horrible ~_~
 
07-05-12, 11:08 AM

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The various humourous parts probably were intended to easen up the mature content a bit and so far it fit in nicely. The atmosphere in this series really appeals to me and should suffice for my seasonal dose of romance.
 
07-05-12, 1:01 PM

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Oh ChihayaFuru, so this was how he created that poem?

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Huge disappointment. Disliked both op and ed, the black outline irritates me to no end and the stories were average at best.
I think you were watching a wrong show.


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07-05-12, 4:56 PM

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Oh this was just lovely. The ending was the only weird thing.
 
07-05-12, 11:03 PM

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hikky said:
I felt that the stories were too short and the characters too under-developed so I couldn't get into it so far.

The poems themselves weren't long at all either. I love this interpretation.

Hint: Make sure to READ the poem before watching the anime first. It's SOO much more fulfilling that way.
 
07-05-12, 11:46 PM

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CHIHAYAFURU!
 
07-06-12, 12:44 AM

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interesting
 
07-06-12, 2:01 AM

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ANYONE WHO WANTS TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THE HIDDEN MEANINGS THAT ARE LEFT OUT IN TRANSLATION THEN PLEASE LOOK AT THE OTHER THREAD UNDER EPISODE DISCUSSIONS. TRUST ME IT WILL HELP.
 
07-06-12, 4:48 AM

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fairly enjoyable - beautiful art, romance, history.........my only gripe is the ED theme - what the hell were they thinking? gorgeous historical nippon with r&b noise is a truly horrendous combination - they should have gone with some traditional biwa or shakuhachi music instead........
 
07-06-12, 8:29 AM

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Surprisingly entertaining. Not likely to be one of the best of the season, but It should be an enjoyable ride all its own.
 
07-06-12, 9:01 AM
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Very sweet. The second part at least. Yukihira and Hiroko were so cute at the end. I'd have liked Takaiko's part more if Narihira wasn't an annoying assfuck like the generic male lover in shoujo manga.
 
07-06-12, 9:20 AM

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I liked everything about this show except for the ed. For some reason I didn't like it at all.
 
07-06-12, 4:27 PM

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Is this anime sorta like a special edition of chihayafuru?
 
07-07-12, 2:04 AM

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Interesting, that's the word for this anime. And pretty nice too, I enjoyed the music and the OP.
 
07-07-12, 7:16 AM

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Loved the firt episode. Artwork was different but definitely not bad. Can't wait for next episode.

 
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