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07-03-12, 8:51 PM
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Offline Joined: Mar 2012 Posts: 17 |
Derravaragh said: I don't hate Medaka, what I hate is the fact that she isn't allowed to be wrong. I've read some reviews from readers saying "Medaka is supposed to be hated. She is designed that way." I'm sorry, but that's some of the dumbest stuff I've heard. I personally hate this manga with a passion. It is just a bunch of nonsensical plot developments that continuously become more outrageous as it goes on, and I hope to god that this is truly supposed to be poking fun at Battle Mangas, because this is everything that is wrong with them. But that's also the only thing that is making this manga move along, it's the outrageousness and dementedness of the people out there that feel they could match Medaka and bring her down, not the fact that she is "always right". Really, a lot of the time I agree with her, but what I really hate is the whole conflict in the Not Equal Arc where Hitoyoshi goes against her because she decides her enemies are more important to her than him. Never once does she ever care that Hitoyoshi may leave her becasue of this, and the author actually makes the whole thing Hitoyoshis fault. Even after she is crushed in the election, although her misery at losing is oh-so-satisfying, that misery should have been from Hitoyoshi leaving her. They just treat it as if her caring more for the enemies was not wrong. That's mostly true except for the fact that I don't think Hitoyoshi going against her was because she treated her enemies better than him. Rather, she treated her enemies as if they were her friends and doesn't believe humans can be truly evil. If it was something like jealousy then all the people that backed Hitoyoshi up wouldn't have done anything to help him. She was completely in the wrong and I was rooting for Hitoyoshi the whole time but I don't think her misery should of been from him leaving her. During that whole fight he was still apart of the Student Council and associating with Medaka so it's not like he ignored her completely. The misery was because she lost her reason for living which Zenkichi did give her before. If she was sad or despaired that Zenkichi left and was regretting her actions then this would've turned into more of a love thing between Zenkichi and Medaka rather than finding a good reason to live. Medaka as a character knows nothing about love than when she asked Zenkichi to marry her when they first met. Her having feelings about Zenkichi opposing her would've been conflicting with most of her ideas since the start of the manga. Though many consider her a hypocrite so it wouldn't have been surprising if that had happened. |
#22
07-11-12, 10:55 AM
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Offline Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 33 |
Kumagawa rules. I can't help but think this manga is a parody of regular shonen battle manga, though. All the characters pretty much have a trait of what a normal/steretypical protagonist would, except it's exaggerated ten times. |
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12-25-12, 3:40 PM
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Offline Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 165 |
I'm only 23 chapters in, but so far Medaka is my fav character. Given what I have heard this may change. As long as her actions continue to be justifiable and semi-consistent, she will likely remain there. Truth told she is one of 2 anime/manga characters in history that have made me hard without having to be naked to do it. Tendou Rushuna was the other. Which is the biggest reason both of them have appeared on my fav character list... |
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01-05-13, 5:46 AM
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Offline Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 8756 |
dkrdude3 said: It seems like most people dislike Medaka, but she's my favorite character. After her, I'd probably say I like her brother, Kikaijima, Akune and Zenkichi about equally. They're all cool. I like that cheating judo girl, too, though I can't recall her name off the top of my head. Medaka's what makes the manga so entertaining for me, though. I don't feel a girl is very much more awesome than others for me to favorite over but you are not alone on not disliking her. I do not dislike Medaka. The only time i was a little annoyed by her was during the minus arc. People seem to hate her because of her overpowers and overly good intentions but i think she shouldn't be hated for those because her perfectionist and possible faults thing was presented as the essence of the plot. Is different from having a plot and just simply making the main too awesome when it has to win. For me a guy like Natsu in Fairy Tail or Goku are more annoying with always taking the spot-line. If you think about it Medaka too a lot less of the glory than those guy ever did and she not stupidly overpowered, she overpowered because that is a plot essence. If you want to look stupidly over perfect characters look at Usui(Kaichou wa Maid-sama!) that has no reason to be like that and yet he is and is not as disliked ether, witch is stupid. InfiniteDestiny said: Ok you seriously need to understand what you are freaken saying, you keep saying "Zenkichi is pathetic" that is what you just said right? "If that wasn't pathetic i don't know what is", now pay attention, She thought he was pathetic for not wanting to lose (your little quote is just his way of not wanting to lose, the fact that he didn't want to lose was still the same, or are you going to disagree with that also?), Kumagawa whether pathetic or not didn't want to lose, she however said "what is wrong with not wanting to lose", but hitting Zenkichi for not wanting to lose, she contradicted what she told Kumagawa, understand now? Kumagawa didn't want to lose but he accepted when he lost. There is a difference between not wanting to lose and not accepting that you lost when you already did. The contest was over, Zenkichi already lost. It doesn' matter if he didn't want to lose or not because he already lost. Medaka went to get him with a smile on her face and instead he pushed her hand off and started yelling like a 5 year old that can't accept that he lost a game and blaming others that had nothing to do with it. Yes he was pathetic and Medaka was angry with him even more than she would have been with someone like Kumagawa because he had great respect for him as a man and found that behavior very under him. That why she hit him in the head and he fully deserved it. Now shut up because you lack the ability to even comprehend what you are reading. Modified by Monad, 01-05-13, 7:00 AM |
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01-05-13, 11:09 PM
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Offline Joined: Oct 2012 Posts: 533 |
Well, there is a lot of hate aimed at Medaka (nearly equal to the love aimed at Kumagawa), but I don't see why either. Yes, she's an inconsistent, hacked, plot-armored hypocrite of a character, but I find her endearing for that. I think of Medaka as a spoof of other characters. A spoof with her own personality (more like complex). And she develops as a character. That's gotta count as something. Personally, she's not my favorite character. But she's a character that serves her purpose and gets the plot going. Unlike a certain someone who Final note: I personally think that there's no character in Medaka Box that sucks. If there is any, it was probably an intentional move by Nisio Isin. So I'm with you here. I don't get the hate. |
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01-26-13, 11:14 PM
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Offline Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 165 |
97 chapters in and I still don't hate Medaka. Also I haven't found her to be a huge hypocrite yet, so not sure what I am missing. Just about to start the successor arc so maybe I will hate her soon. |
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01-29-13, 8:09 PM
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Offline Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 455 |
I think Medaka Box as a whole is meant to be a parody of the classic cliche shounen, and Medaka is a parody of all the overpowered, seemingly "perfect" shounen leads out there. So yeah, I guess you could hate her, but I appreciate the fact that she's more of a walking caricature than anything else. |
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01-31-13, 4:41 AM
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Offline Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 624 |
The true one in the minority here is me, who hates Kumagawa more and more with each chapter. Medaka, while far from being my favorite, doesn't irritate or annoy me really. She's the main character, clearly stated to be absurdly powerful. Her being naive and rash is a way to keep her from OHKOing every "villain" in one chapter (thus preventing other characters from getting to do anything awesome). Kumagawa is the exact opposite, being called a loser all the time, yet winning every battle he's in (except vs Medaka) and preventing other characters from doing anything awesome (chapter 151 feels me with rage, as the whole battle was utter offscreen bullsh*t you can't justify, all in order to make Kumagawa look the best). Compared to him, Medaka is great. Without comparing, she's still pretty cool. |
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02-02-13, 12:25 AM
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Offline Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 3 |
Monad said: Kumagawa didn't want to lose but he accepted when he lost. There is a difference between not wanting to lose and not accepting that you lost when you already did. The contest was over, Zenkichi already lost. It doesn' matter if he didn't want to lose or not because he already lost. Medaka went to get him with a smile on her face and instead he pushed her hand off and started yelling like a 5 year old that can't accept that he lost a game and blaming others that had nothing to do with it. Yes he was pathetic and Medaka was angry with him even more than she would have been with someone like Kumagawa because he had great respect for him as a man and found that behavior very under him. That why she hit him in the head and he fully deserved it. Now shut up because you lack the ability to even comprehend what you are reading. Actually, it doesn't seem you're comprehending what he is posting. Also, you don't go hitting people in the head for being pathetic. There is a reason why a large portion of the student body sided against Medaka after that and I think InfiniteDestiny kind of go over that nicely. I actually liked Medaka until that arc too. No matter how Zenkichi acted, it's kind of hard to like a character that straight up craps on the one person who always stuck by her. Modified by Esura, 02-02-13, 12:28 AM |


