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Jun 17, 2012 5:04 PM

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Does anyone knows what "EBA" means? In the end of the episode, after the girl asks him out, the subtitle appears with "Why didn't she ask for EBA?"


That's the name of the volume of the novel. We might find later when they solve the mystery. Like they did with the Hyouka arc.
I see. Thanks \o
 
Jun 17, 2012 5:06 PM

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Eru getting drunk was great, and once again Oreki was awesome breaking down those theories, but seriously thinking about it, all of those theories were lame, and the guy with the glasses was freaken annoying T_T; should have interesting development tho next episode now that she is meeting with Oreki.
 
Jun 17, 2012 5:12 PM

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Could not stand that stupid brown haired girl who had like 3 buns on her head.

And I agree with everyone who says this: Why can't they just freaking ask the scriptwriter?!?! She's obviously not in a coma or anything...
 
Jun 17, 2012 5:33 PM

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"chow desu~" lol xD
 
Jun 17, 2012 5:34 PM

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Oreki's green eyes are captivating

I thought they would solve it in one episode, so it's a new arc.
I like this episode. :) And I feel like picking up Sherlock Holmes again.
 
Jun 17, 2012 5:35 PM

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In hindsight, where the hell IS the screenwriter anyway? Like where does she live. It must be either pretty far, or something of the like. Keeping in mind it could be a situation where no one knows where she lived or something like that, given how this show works.

Anyway this ep was pretty good, I think the thing that got me interested the most was how person #2 and #3 were displaying how they felt mystery should be tackled and the misconceptions of it people get from it. Number #1 was just an example of people who think C.S.I. equates to a good mystery show or something XD

Eru was super trippy this episode, seriously what the hell were in those things? XD It looks like this other girl will be throwing Hotaru in for a loop of some sort, can't wait to see how that plays out.
 
Jun 17, 2012 6:12 PM

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I felt a bit lost when they talked about the theories and I had to rewind a couple of times but that's just, they do talk a lot, though.

I seriosly considered dropping this episode because of that fucking disgusting Haba guy, look at him, look at his goddamn face, his eyes, that BAD hair cut and his nose. Oh my god, I HATE HIM, I hate him so much, I wish the movie was real and he had been murdered.

The drunk Eru was great and made up for that shitty character, I want her in that state in every episode from now on, that would be hilarious but no chance in hell that's going to happen, damn it.

I like Irisu, I like her a lot, if romance is going to happen, Houtarou should ditch Eru and take Irisu, she is the girl, man.
 
Jun 17, 2012 7:11 PM

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lol at eru getting drunk from the alcoholic chocolate xDDD

hongou's supposed to be an amateur with mysteries; i see it as either her amateur thinking couldn't come up with a proper ending...

OR she's not an amateur at all and is actually secretly planning something more elaborate for the end of the movie; with that highly detailed script and everyone's theories biting the dust, i think there's more to hongou's ending than meets the eye :/

but her whole "sickness" thing really throws everything off, too

i was really hoping for houtatou to pull off some of his magic brainwork this episode, but i guess we'll have to wait til next week for this mystery to be resolved. can't wiat

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Jun 17, 2012 7:23 PM

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This episode was great lol Eru getting drunk (super light weight)and Oreki's reactions to all the theories were pretty good too.


but that rope theory just had Derp written all over it Oreki even proved how stupid it was :P.
 
Jun 17, 2012 7:41 PM

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The theories of those guys are way ridiculous. Ahahaha.
I still don't have a clue about it.

Chitanda getting drunk from bonbons? A cliche to almost every heroine out there. Ahahaha.
 
Jun 17, 2012 8:11 PM

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People who say Megane theory is stupid are wrong: it's probably the most plausible one between the 3. But It has a major flow: the rope. It violate the Knox's 8th rule: The investigator can not find any evidence that it is not immediately presented to the reader.
 
Jun 17, 2012 8:23 PM

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But the rope wasn't "in the film" it is "in the anime/novel" tho.. if the author of Hyouka is following the Knox's rules guess that would be it..

The thing that ticks me off is how did the culprit managed to cut off the victim's arm.. and what is the relation of chitanda's unusual behavior before falling asleep, she said "like a kaleidoscope" or something like that..
 
Jun 17, 2012 8:27 PM

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Getting drunk while in school. Done that. XD

Here's my theory. Maybe he faked his own death. I don't remember how his body was shown, but maybe the hand that was placed was fake and he hid his hand and covered it with blood.

 
Jun 17, 2012 8:46 PM

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before falling asleep, she said "like a kaleidoscope" or something like that..

I guess it was just a simple vertigo.
 
Jun 17, 2012 8:50 PM

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I'll just write out my theory that I have since last episode.

I beleive that the girl that is supposedly Houga's best friend is none than other Houga herself. The real mystery she constructed is the one that she is currently presenting to the classic litterature club: "Would you be able to reconstruct a story based on the few hints I left to other people of my club and that I hide through the script"
The reason is quite simple: If the classic litterature do manage to reconstruct her story with the hints she left, this will mean that her story followed a logical and rational process and this would pretty much be the most rewarding thing for a mystery writter, it would mean a defeat against the kotenbu but also a victory against herself.
Either Houga orchestred everything without anyone knowing or either the whole cinema club is actually playing their real piece right now by putting the classic litterature club into the detective spot.

This whole problem was weird since the start which leave me beleiving that everything is a test for the kotenbu.

-Houga is a beginner in mystery and nobody seem to put too much faith in her ability to write one. Let's say she would very conveniently fall sick at this point in time, it's very weird for a club not to chose someone else to complete the script. The script is still at a point where anyone could just alternate it, nothing worth going out of the way to bother a club you barely have any relation to (Except if a wild Chitanda was bragging about Oreki's detective ability on the chat which caught Houga's attention)

-The way the whole process is made is the same as a mystery. Everyone they talked to since the start add a few clues toward the truth. It's like the whole club made their theory according to what information the Kotenbu would have at the moment and they all seem too much fixated on Oreki which bring the third point.

-They are all watching Oreki like he's the one that is suposed to solve it all when there was no mention of him being any greater than anyone in the club... of course unless Chitanda went out of her way to brag about him on the chat.

-(Thanks to prismheart) I seriously doubt that Houga is in a coma or in a state where she is unable to give information. If normal club member couldn't visit her I would maybe buy it but I doubt that her "best friend" can't visit her.

So basically imo, the Kotenbu aren't helping them, they are being tested.
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Jun 17, 2012 9:01 PM

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Yeah, they could just ask the girl who wrote the script to tell them what she was planning unless her sickness is keeping her in a coma but it still makes for a pretty interesting episode. I might go read a mystery novel now.
 
Jun 17, 2012 9:06 PM

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Yumekichi11 said:
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Chitanda's cute burping! She's eating too much chocolate with alcohol.
I KNEW IT! Something was weird with Eru. So those were filled with alcohol? Oh my! Under age drinking but in the country it's rather easy, that much I know. Well another nice innovation in thee end.


Yeah, they were whiskey chocolates

The theory about someone already being in the room makes sense. Maybe behind the broken props and junk since it was mentioned in the script. But as they mentioned in the ep. that doesn't explain the locked door. But then did they also focus on the corner area in the film?

[EDIT: After taking a decent look at the map I'm going to take back what I said about the broken props and junk]

There could of also been 2 culprits, i.e. the two girls [the purple sweater girl is really suspicious but I'm not sure if I should accuse her yet] who went back for the key. But that would be too obvious.

During the episode everyone seemed to look at Oreki Houtarou for answers, that was odd. Plus the Chitanda Eru getting drunk. Finally, the notes inside the Sherlock Holmes books. Was that just to show that she was pulling the main aspects of the mystery novels?
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Jun 17, 2012 9:17 PM

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Fiji said:
The theories of those guys are way ridiculous. Ahahaha.
I still don't have a clue about it.

Chitanda getting drunk from bonbons? A cliche to almost every heroine out there. Ahahaha.


well a few of them do make sense. But they aren't really thinking about it too hard. They are just putting what makes sense initially, without brainstorming.
 
Jun 17, 2012 9:19 PM

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It's entertaining to see ridiculous theories.

The real mystery is about Houga herself. I mean, way too suspicious sickness.
bla bla bla
The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.
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On MAL, everyone who has used the lame rating system becomes a critic and an intellectual by default, haven't you heard?
 
Jun 17, 2012 9:25 PM

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Drunk Eru is so MOEEEEEEEEEE.

Anywho, I still have no idea how to solve the mystery since all the theories so far have been rejected.

I expect to get my mind blown, or in the end it turns out the author didn't finish the story and thus left an open ending. That would be pretty lame though.
 
Jun 17, 2012 9:54 PM

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Day2Dream said:
Mmm, the only thing I can think of to resolve the locked room case is the person that went back to get the master already had the key, thus being the killer but then again two people went back. Probably something along the lines of this though.
WRONG!
13man18 said:
Here's my theory. Maybe he faked his own death.
WRONG!
Maddo_scientisto said:
I'll just write out my theory that I have since last episode.
Wrong but it can be applied. The mystery was solvable upon seeing the movie.
itsok2bu said:
The theory about someone already being in the room makes sense. Maybe behind the broken props and junk since it was mentioned in the script. But as they mentioned in the ep. that doesn't explain the locked door. But then did they also focus on the corner area in the film?
After I reached this point in your theory, continuing on was pointless. Everyone met up in the center before heading to the room.


OKAY time to explain shit.... I got sick of reading everyone's theories after seeing the shit theories.
Why Episode Theories FAILED:
1) Grass stood up ... If someone had used the grass it might make sense but the window was too hard to open and the culprit could be seen.
2) The rope does count but the time difference and how load and hard to open the window disables the theory... everything takes a certain amount of time and they didn't have it.
3) Not enough blood and this is a MYSTERY not a HORROR. I do believe Oreki pointed that out dead quick. She read Sherlock Homes books... REAL mysteries, not ghost stories... so the occult is that last place to look.

Time for the answer that is right in front of your faces:

And that's my answer. This means that the crime seen in the video was answered when we saw the video.
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Jun 17, 2012 10:00 PM

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kyled00m said:
Day2Dream said:
Mmm, the only thing I can think of to resolve the locked room case is the person that went back to get the master already had the key, thus being the killer but then again two people went back. Probably something along the lines of this though.
WRONG!
13man18 said:
Here's my theory. Maybe he faked his own death.
WRONG!
Maddo_scientisto said:
I'll just write out my theory that I have since last episode.
Wrong but it can be applied. The mystery was solvable upon seeing the movie.
itsok2bu said:
The theory about someone already being in the room makes sense. Maybe behind the broken props and junk since it was mentioned in the script. But as they mentioned in the ep. that doesn't explain the locked door. But then did they also focus on the corner area in the film?
After I reached this point in your theory, continuing on was pointless. Everyone met up in the center before heading to the room.


OKAY time to explain shit.... I got sick of reading everyone's theories after seeing the shit theories.
Why Episode Theories FAILED:
1) Grass stood up ... If someone had used the grass it might make sense but the window was too hard to open and the culprit could be seen.
2) The rope does count but the time difference and how load and hard to open the window disables the theory... everything takes a certain amount of time and they didn't have it.
3) Not enough blood and this is a MYSTERY not a HORROR. I do believe Oreki pointed that out dead quick. She read Sherlock Homes books... REAL mysteries, not ghost stories... so the occult is that last place to look.

Time for the answer that is right in front of your faces:

And that's my answer. This means that the crime seen in the video was answered when we saw the video.


Just curious what you mean when you commented on my post. Also I agree with your spoiler. And I would like to add, why is the hand so far away from the body?
 
Jun 17, 2012 10:07 PM

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The part where Chitanda introduced herself as "I'm Chow!" is so funny.. xD
 
Jun 17, 2012 10:13 PM

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itsok2bu said:
Just curious what you mean when you commented on my post. Also I agree with your spoiler. And I would like to add, why is the hand so far away from the body?
As I said, everyone met up so no one could've been in the room so nobody could "suddenly join the group". They were all outside the door and opened it with the master key together. Instead of continuing reading your post, i merely skimmed for important words and none fit the bill... I was also sick of staring at wrong theories by then so I was hoping someone would point out what I put in my spoiler but no luck it seemed.

The reason his arm was for from his body is obvious. They struggled and when they made him into a fake corpse, they had to hide his real arm so it didn't show on the video. Another thing that people should've picked up on was the key wasn't on his person, it wasn't even clenched in his hand. The fact that the body was far from the key made it even more obvious that the key had been switched...

Also, he could have been still trying to get the key back from the murderer when his body gave out and he collapsed dead which goes to show you why his corpse isn't near the key. Putting the corpse near the hand would be too obvious with a blood trail all over the floor too...
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kyled00m said:
Day2Dream said:
Mmm, the only thing I can think of to resolve the locked room case is the person that went back to get the master already had the key, thus being the killer but then again two people went back. Probably something along the lines of this though.
WRONG!
13man18 said:
Here's my theory. Maybe he faked his own death.
WRONG!
Maddo_scientisto said:
I'll just write out my theory that I have since last episode.
Wrong but it can be applied. The mystery was solvable upon seeing the movie.
itsok2bu said:
The theory about someone already being in the room makes sense. Maybe behind the broken props and junk since it was mentioned in the script. But as they mentioned in the ep. that doesn't explain the locked door. But then did they also focus on the corner area in the film?
After I reached this point in your theory, continuing on was pointless. Everyone met up in the center before heading to the room.


OKAY time to explain shit.... I got sick of reading everyone's theories after seeing the shit theories.
Why Episode Theories FAILED:
1) Grass stood up ... If someone had used the grass it might make sense but the window was too hard to open and the culprit could be seen.
2) The rope does count but the time difference and how load and hard to open the window disables the theory... everything takes a certain amount of time and they didn't have it.
3) Not enough blood and this is a MYSTERY not a HORROR. I do believe Oreki pointed that out dead quick. She read Sherlock Homes books... REAL mysteries, not ghost stories... so the occult is that last place to look.

Time for the answer that is right in front of your faces:

And that's my answer. This means that the crime seen in the video was answered when we saw the video.


I think they can easily know what keys belongs to which door, and so it would be weird if any of the characters in the movie dont try to check the key or realize about that.

It's possible but i don't buy it.
I think the answer is either the masterkey or that the door wasn't locked at all.


By the way im the only one who thinks that eba is actually hongou? if don't im pretty sure that at least eba knows the truth.
 
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kyled00m said:
Day2Dream said:
Mmm, the only thing I can think of to resolve the locked room case is the person that went back to get the master already had the key, thus being the killer but then again two people went back. Probably something along the lines of this though.
WRONG!
13man18 said:
Here's my theory. Maybe he faked his own death.
WRONG!
Maddo_scientisto said:
I'll just write out my theory that I have since last episode.
Wrong but it can be applied. The mystery was solvable upon seeing the movie.
itsok2bu said:
The theory about someone already being in the room makes sense. Maybe behind the broken props and junk since it was mentioned in the script. But as they mentioned in the ep. that doesn't explain the locked door. But then did they also focus on the corner area in the film?
After I reached this point in your theory, continuing on was pointless. Everyone met up in the center before heading to the room.


OKAY time to explain shit.... I got sick of reading everyone's theories after seeing the shit theories.
Why Episode Theories FAILED:
1) Grass stood up ... If someone had used the grass it might make sense but the window was too hard to open and the culprit could be seen.
2) The rope does count but the time difference and how load and hard to open the window disables the theory... everything takes a certain amount of time and they didn't have it.
3) Not enough blood and this is a MYSTERY not a HORROR. I do believe Oreki pointed that out dead quick. She read Sherlock Homes books... REAL mysteries, not ghost stories... so the occult is that last place to look.

Time for the answer that is right in front of your faces:

And that's my answer. This means that the crime seen in the video was answered when we saw the video.


I hope you read the novel to back this up since you sound pretentious as fuck.
 
Jun 17, 2012 10:51 PM

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Just wait until the answer is revealed. I'm almost willing to bet that we're all going to get trolled.

And Oreki surprised at being called a hardcore mystery reader = win. :D

Oh Chitanda. I loled when she passed out. XD
 
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kyled00m said:
Day2Dream said:
Mmm, the only thing I can think of to resolve the locked room case is the person that went back to get the master already had the key, thus being the killer but then again two people went back. Probably something along the lines of this though.
WRONG!
13man18 said:
Here's my theory. Maybe he faked his own death.
WRONG!
Maddo_scientisto said:
I'll just write out my theory that I have since last episode.
Wrong but it can be applied. The mystery was solvable upon seeing the movie.
itsok2bu said:
The theory about someone already being in the room makes sense. Maybe behind the broken props and junk since it was mentioned in the script. But as they mentioned in the ep. that doesn't explain the locked door. But then did they also focus on the corner area in the film?
After I reached this point in your theory, continuing on was pointless. Everyone met up in the center before heading to the room.


OKAY time to explain shit.... I got sick of reading everyone's theories after seeing the shit theories.
Why Episode Theories FAILED:
1) Grass stood up ... If someone had used the grass it might make sense but the window was too hard to open and the culprit could be seen.
2) The rope does count but the time difference and how load and hard to open the window disables the theory... everything takes a certain amount of time and they didn't have it.
3) Not enough blood and this is a MYSTERY not a HORROR. I do believe Oreki pointed that out dead quick. She read Sherlock Homes books... REAL mysteries, not ghost stories... so the occult is that last place to look.

Time for the answer that is right in front of your faces:

And that's my answer. This means that the crime seen in the video was answered when we saw the video.
Your theory makes sense. However, it's best to reject theories respectfully. You're just coming off as a smart ass now. And just for that, I hope you're wrong next week so I can look back and smile :D

Nothing brings me more joy than seeing someone so sure of himself end up completely wrong. Reminds me of the end of death note ;D
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Day2Dream said:



Yes if you never saw a murder or a dead person before I doubt you still have your mind to checking things, and here is my theory:



BTW the hand got cut off is really not needed in this case, it make the murder scene look so bad, it so weird how the hand and it's owner are so far apart from each other without and blood trail, imagine what it take to clean cut a hand like that and if it got cut before the victim died the blood spray would be pretty much all over the place.
 
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Chitanda gets even more insufferable when she's drunk. ಠ_ಠ
 
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Day2Dream said:



Yes if you never saw a murder or a dead person before I doubt you still have your mind to checking things, and here is my theory:



BTW the hand got cut off is really not needed in this case, it make the murder scene look so bad, it so weird how the hand and it's owner are so far apart from each other without and blood trail, imagine what it take to clean cut a hand like that and if it got cut before the victim died the blood spray would be pretty much all over the place.
I like your theory but the chance that the door would be checked by more than 1 person, or even when the culprit goes to get the master key has a high probability as well. you can tell whether someone is holding the door outside the room as opposed to the door is locked if you're trying to open it... assuming the reality of a situation like that, multiple people would be trying to force the door open so if they wanted to add reality to the situation... I do like your theory though, entirely possible :)
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Was the severed hand mentioned in Hongou's script? Mazui's translation of the script seems to suggest that the hand was one of the improvisations made by the props manager, in which case it would no longer apply to the original mystery.

The horror-ending theory is ruled out not only by the assertion that the genre is in fact mystery, but also by the class votes themselves- the record of the decisions made by the class as a whole (the minutes) shows us that the film is set to have 2 deaths, as voted on by 2-F. I can't read what they decided for the murder weapon (it's on the top of the page Chitanda was looking at, item 31.), so can someone confirm that for us? It might be relevant.

The three witnesses are almost certainly working for the 'Queen', Irisu. I feel almost like she's doing this to actively challenge him, but why would she?
 
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kyled00m said:
As I said, everyone met up so no one could've been in the room so nobody could "suddenly join the group". They were all outside the door and opened it with the master key together. Instead of continuing reading your post, i merely skimmed for important words and none fit the bill... I was also sick of staring at wrong theories by then so I was hoping someone would point out what I put in my spoiler but no luck it seemed.


I was referring to the episode when the third girl in charge of the posters or w/e who said a NEW person was there. A villain similar to Scream.. but I wasn't saying it was my own theory, and I was just discussing it.


kyled00m said:
The reason his arm was for from his body is obvious. They struggled and when they made him into a fake corpse, they had to hide his real arm so it didn't show on the video. Another thing that people should've picked up on was the key wasn't on his person, it wasn't even clenched in his hand. The fact that the body was far from the key made it even more obvious that the key had been switched...

Also, he could have been still trying to get the key back from the murderer when his body gave out and he collapsed dead which goes to show you why his corpse isn't near the key. Putting the corpse near the hand would be too obvious with a blood trail all over the floor too...


Isn't that kind of an assumption... that it was the director's fault that the hand was far from the body. But then again the blood would be a bit more splattered on the floor (not to sure if that's what you were trying to say). So yeah, it could be the directors fault. Then again, so could the unclenched key could be because he lost tension in his arm as it was being cut off.

Furthermore, we can't really test the reality of everything since it's a show. Unless your referring to the people in the film then that is more understandable.

Finally didn't they mention that the killer would of been spotted in the main foyer? Although it was the props manager who mentioned it, wouldn't that be valid? or can we say that the person you mentioned exited from the open window in EMPTY ROOM #2? this may not be the case thought, since I think we have already debunked the window theory.
 
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Now this was the first episode to be utterly boring for me. It was OK though, because drunken Chitanda was slightly entertaining.
 
Jun 17, 2012 11:48 PM

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I'd like to further point out to that fellow so gleefully flaunting his closed-room solution that it has not, in fact, solved the mystery- anyone can form closed-room theories all they like, but as long as no culprit is proposed without good backing evidence, you've effectively said zilch.
 
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They went to a place in the middle of nowhere, there was dust everywhere... if there was another person there already, it would have been a preordained murder and the suspects are obvious and the `cops` would solve the problem immediately. Even with extra people, it becomes way too obvious that way.

Yea I was talking about the characters but in that sort of situation no one suspects the key might have been swiped... they see a key and let whoever pick it up... the culprit picks it up, switches the key again, and gets away free... :\ I get sick of seeing the same type of action countless times over.

I should go re-watch the movie's airing one more time but I don't think I'll pick up on any more clues at this point...
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1)

Eru's moe went over 9000 when she got tipsy. Too bad it didn't make her more skinshippy towards oreki. Damn, my MS ChitandaXOreki needs moar fuel!

2)

I don't have a set theory, but I DO believe certain things need to be mentioned.

a) The writer seems to be a novice and read quite a few sherlock holmes books.
I think she didn't make up her own mystery but rearranged stuff from the books. Those little notes Eru found were will probably have some weight in where to find the part she used for this movie.

b)
She ordered the rope, but it wasn't used the way annoying guy #2 thought. Since we didn't see it in the movie, it could very well be a supporting prop to make the actual mystery happen

c) I think it wasn't mentioned here before, but the writer only ordered VERY LITTLE BLOOD. The amount we see in the movie is actually much more than she had in mind. This may very well be a part of the mystery.

3)
Just for the notes, Eru did not say "Chow desu!".
Instead, person #3 (the bubbly girl) said "Ciao" when she entered, which is an informal italian greeting, meaning "hi" or "bye". Eru saying "Ciao" too instead of something japanese was her tipsyness speaking, and adding "desu" was her being herself -> overly polite. Just had to mention that.


Alltogether, I WANNA KNOW WHATS GOING ON! I WANT IT TO BE NEXT WEEK!
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Jun 18, 2012 12:27 AM

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The mystery is so POORLY done... it's too clear that it's fake and it bothers the hell out of me... even if you're acting or adlibing, the effort they're putting in is like 0. It bothers the fuck out of me.

The keys looked similar and as I said above, the murderer just had to make sure to switch them before anyone looked to closely at them.

The blood is in a pool instead of splattering so the realism sucks too bad and there's no trail between the hand and body so we can't pull too much... even if they sucked at special effects, they should've been able to realize what they did wrong.

The guy who tries to open the door later uses the master key makes the lock click so I'm willing to bet it was locked.

It doesn't look like a surprise because there doesn't seem to be a struggle so it was one of the 5 because those are the only ones the character would have known to be there... if it was someone else, it would've caught him off guard and it would look more sketchy....

Again, something we all noticed was that there was no scream which makes this confusing... was it a murder? or was it a accidental suicide? :\
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Jun 18, 2012 12:50 AM

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Drunken Eru is over 9000!!!

Oh well, in a sense, it's a nothing happened episode. All theories are rejected.

Really, "Why didn't she ask EBA?"
Eba is Hongou's best friend. She might know some useful clues.
 
Jun 18, 2012 1:09 AM

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That is so bad it actually turns up to be entertaining :D
problem is that there is no real reason WHY he was killed so it makes that mystery very weak

First theory was entertaining - but being seen by others, really? Room is next to the corner so passing there is very easy thing to do. Bigger problem would be, why victim let someone enter his room by the window (unless said person had entered by the doors and than went out this way).
Still he was right about drama (or stage) part of the story.

And I still think that it was the Yellow guy (Katsuta?) he was able to set the stage (by opening the windows and doors earlier)

Finally Chitanda was bearable - especially in a part where she was sleeping :P
 
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Here's my theory. But only if this ends up being a troll mystery.

The guy was never murdered, he just decided on a whim, to pull a prank on the other people to freak them out.

-The guy found some paint and possibly a dolls arm in that room since it seemed like there was many scrap lying about.
-Its really not that easy for a killer to be able to detach a arm without some server weapon

Ok, I don't have time to waste thinking on this anymore.
 
Jun 18, 2012 2:42 AM

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Fiji said:
Chitanda getting drunk from bonbons? A cliche to almost every heroine out there. Ahahaha.

Well except she ate tons of it. My aunt got drunk once that way too. If you put strong alcohol, like whiskey in the chocolate, you can get easily drunk.

That hiccup was cute. I wonder how the events will turn out for the movie.
 
Jun 18, 2012 4:13 AM

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Misaki is so my type of anime character!
 
Jun 18, 2012 4:46 AM

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Geinrendour said:
Does anyone knows what "EBA" means? In the end of the episode, after the girl asks him out, the subtitle appears with "Why didn't she ask for EBA?"


Volume 1 Hyouka 氷菓 - You can't escape / The niece of time

Volume 2 The Credit Roll of the Fool 愚者のエンドロール - Why didn't she ask EBA?
 
Jun 18, 2012 5:07 AM

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MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOE
 
Jun 18, 2012 5:11 AM

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hey is it me or ... houtaro's voice changed near the end of this episode ..?? i am sure its not his original voice lol iam a big fan of his seiyuu so i cant be wrong be wrong
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Jun 18, 2012 5:51 AM

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The theories on the light novel was a bit different from this but just a bit.
LOL
 
Jun 18, 2012 6:02 AM

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Oh Wishkey Loving Chitanda :3
Looks like this mystery chapter is going to take a few more episodes
 
Jun 18, 2012 6:54 AM

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Drunk Chintanda = win
 
Jun 18, 2012 7:26 AM

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My reaction to Oreki's face XD
 
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