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View Poll Results: Hyouka Episode 9 Discussion
5 out of 5: Loved it!
146 60.83%
4 out of 5: Liked it
61 25.42%
3 out of 5: It was OK
18 7.50%
2 out of 5: Disliked it
13 5.42%
1 out of 5: Hated it
2 0.83%
Voters: 240

06-17-12, 5:04 PM

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ElessaR88 said:
Geinrendour said:
Does anyone knows what "EBA" means? In the end of the episode, after the girl asks him out, the subtitle appears with "Why didn't she ask for EBA?"

That's the name of the volume of the novel. We might find later when they solve the mystery. Like they did with the Hyouka arc.
I see. Thanks \o
06-17-12, 5:06 PM

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Eru getting drunk was great, and once again Oreki was awesome breaking down those theories, but seriously thinking about it, all of those theories were lame, and the guy with the glasses was freaken annoying T_T; should have interesting development tho next episode now that she is meeting with Oreki.
06-17-12, 5:12 PM

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Could not stand that stupid brown haired girl who had like 3 buns on her head.

And I agree with everyone who says this: Why can't they just freaking ask the scriptwriter?!?! She's obviously not in a coma or anything...
06-17-12, 5:33 PM

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"chow desu~" lol xD
06-17-12, 5:34 PM

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Oreki's green eyes are captivating

I thought they would solve it in one episode, so it's a new arc.
I like this episode. :) And I feel like picking up Sherlock Holmes again.
06-17-12, 5:35 PM

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In hindsight, where the hell IS the screenwriter anyway? Like where does she live. It must be either pretty far, or something of the like. Keeping in mind it could be a situation where no one knows where she lived or something like that, given how this show works.

Anyway this ep was pretty good, I think the thing that got me interested the most was how person #2 and #3 were displaying how they felt mystery should be tackled and the misconceptions of it people get from it. Number #1 was just an example of people who think C.S.I. equates to a good mystery show or something XD

Eru was super trippy this episode, seriously what the hell were in those things? XD It looks like this other girl will be throwing Hotaru in for a loop of some sort, can't wait to see how that plays out.
06-17-12, 6:12 PM

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I felt a bit lost when they talked about the theories and I had to rewind a couple of times but that's just, they do talk a lot, though.

I seriosly considered dropping this episode because of that fucking disgusting Haba guy, look at him, look at his goddamn face, his eyes, that BAD hair cut and his nose. Oh my god, I HATE HIM, I hate him so much, I wish the movie was real and he had been murdered.

The drunk Eru was great and made up for that shitty character, I want her in that state in every episode from now on, that would be hilarious but no chance in hell that's going to happen, damn it.

I like Irisu, I like her a lot, if romance is going to happen, Houtarou should ditch Eru and take Irisu, she is the girl, man.
06-17-12, 7:11 PM

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lol at eru getting drunk from the alcoholic chocolate xDDD

hongou's supposed to be an amateur with mysteries; i see it as either her amateur thinking couldn't come up with a proper ending...

OR she's not an amateur at all and is actually secretly planning something more elaborate for the end of the movie; with that highly detailed script and everyone's theories biting the dust, i think there's more to hongou's ending than meets the eye :/

but her whole "sickness" thing really throws everything off, too

i was really hoping for houtatou to pull off some of his magic brainwork this episode, but i guess we'll have to wait til next week for this mystery to be resolved. can't wiat

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06-17-12, 7:23 PM

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This episode was great lol Eru getting drunk (super light weight)and Oreki's reactions to all the theories were pretty good too.

but that rope theory just had Derp written all over it Oreki even proved how stupid it was :P.
06-17-12, 7:41 PM

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The theories of those guys are way ridiculous. Ahahaha.
I still don't have a clue about it.

Chitanda getting drunk from bonbons? A cliche to almost every heroine out there. Ahahaha.
06-17-12, 8:11 PM

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People who say Megane theory is stupid are wrong: it's probably the most plausible one between the 3. But It has a major flow: the rope. It violate the Knox's 8th rule: The investigator can not find any evidence that it is not immediately presented to the reader.
06-17-12, 8:23 PM

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But the rope wasn't "in the film" it is "in the anime/novel" tho.. if the author of Hyouka is following the Knox's rules guess that would be it..

The thing that ticks me off is how did the culprit managed to cut off the victim's arm.. and what is the relation of chitanda's unusual behavior before falling asleep, she said "like a kaleidoscope" or something like that..
06-17-12, 8:27 PM

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Getting drunk while in school. Done that. XD

Here's my theory. Maybe he faked his own death. I don't remember how his body was shown, but maybe the hand that was placed was fake and he hid his hand and covered it with blood.

06-17-12, 8:46 PM

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cyrelleboa7 said:
before falling asleep, she said "like a kaleidoscope" or something like that..

I guess it was just a simple vertigo.
06-17-12, 8:50 PM

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I'll just write out my theory that I have since last episode.

I beleive that the girl that is supposedly Houga's best friend is none than other Houga herself. The real mystery she constructed is the one that she is currently presenting to the classic litterature club: "Would you be able to reconstruct a story based on the few hints I left to other people of my club and that I hide through the script"
The reason is quite simple: If the classic litterature do manage to reconstruct her story with the hints she left, this will mean that her story followed a logical and rational process and this would pretty much be the most rewarding thing for a mystery writter, it would mean a defeat against the kotenbu but also a victory against herself.
Either Houga orchestred everything without anyone knowing or either the whole cinema club is actually playing their real piece right now by putting the classic litterature club into the detective spot.

This whole problem was weird since the start which leave me beleiving that everything is a test for the kotenbu.

-Houga is a beginner in mystery and nobody seem to put too much faith in her ability to write one. Let's say she would very conveniently fall sick at this point in time, it's very weird for a club not to chose someone else to complete the script. The script is still at a point where anyone could just alternate it, nothing worth going out of the way to bother a club you barely have any relation to (Except if a wild Chitanda was bragging about Oreki's detective ability on the chat which caught Houga's attention)

-The way the whole process is made is the same as a mystery. Everyone they talked to since the start add a few clues toward the truth. It's like the whole club made their theory according to what information the Kotenbu would have at the moment and they all seem too much fixated on Oreki which bring the third point.

-They are all watching Oreki like he's the one that is suposed to solve it all when there was no mention of him being any greater than anyone in the club... of course unless Chitanda went out of her way to brag about him on the chat.

-(Thanks to prismheart) I seriously doubt that Houga is in a coma or in a state where she is unable to give information. If normal club member couldn't visit her I would maybe buy it but I doubt that her "best friend" can't visit her.

So basically imo, the Kotenbu aren't helping them, they are being tested.
Modified by Shangetsu, 06-17-12, 9:04 PM
06-17-12, 9:01 PM

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Yeah, they could just ask the girl who wrote the script to tell them what she was planning unless her sickness is keeping her in a coma but it still makes for a pretty interesting episode. I might go read a mystery novel now.
06-17-12, 9:06 PM

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Yumekichi11 said:
tsubasalover said:
Chitanda's cute burping! She's eating too much chocolate with alcohol.
I KNEW IT! Something was weird with Eru. So those were filled with alcohol? Oh my! Under age drinking but in the country it's rather easy, that much I know. Well another nice innovation in thee end.

Yeah, they were whiskey chocolates

The theory about someone already being in the room makes sense. Maybe behind the broken props and junk since it was mentioned in the script. But as they mentioned in the ep. that doesn't explain the locked door. But then did they also focus on the corner area in the film?

[EDIT: After taking a decent look at the map I'm going to take back what I said about the broken props and junk]

There could of also been 2 culprits, i.e. the two girls [the purple sweater girl is really suspicious but I'm not sure if I should accuse her yet] who went back for the key. But that would be too obvious.

During the episode everyone seemed to look at Oreki Houtarou for answers, that was odd. Plus the Chitanda Eru getting drunk. Finally, the notes inside the Sherlock Holmes books. Was that just to show that she was pulling the main aspects of the mystery novels?
Modified by FrostToaster, 06-17-12, 11:35 PM
06-17-12, 9:17 PM

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Fiji said:
The theories of those guys are way ridiculous. Ahahaha.
I still don't have a clue about it.

Chitanda getting drunk from bonbons? A cliche to almost every heroine out there. Ahahaha.

well a few of them do make sense. But they aren't really thinking about it too hard. They are just putting what makes sense initially, without brainstorming.
06-17-12, 9:19 PM

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It's entertaining to see ridiculous theories.

The real mystery is about Houga herself. I mean, way too suspicious sickness.
bla bla bla
The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.
Niko-kun said:
On MAL, everyone who has used the lame rating system becomes a critic and an intellectual by default, haven't you heard?
06-17-12, 9:25 PM

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Posts: 2980
Drunk Eru is so MOEEEEEEEEEE.

Anywho, I still have no idea how to solve the mystery since all the theories so far have been rejected.

I expect to get my mind blown, or in the end it turns out the author didn't finish the story and thus left an open ending. That would be pretty lame though.
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