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View Poll Results: Fate/Zero 2nd Season Episode 11 Discussion
5 out of 5: Loved it!
 
364 79.13%
4 out of 5: Liked it
 
58 12.61%
3 out of 5: It was OK
 
24 5.22%
2 out of 5: Disliked it
 
10 2.17%
1 out of 5: Hated it
 
4 0.87%
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06-16-12, 10:00 AM

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ssjokg said:
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But more than that, for all people who felt unhappy with Irisviel's death by hands of Kirei please enjoy rendition of the scene brought to you by Sehai-kun! Now with Ilya as a bonus to ensure 100% more despair!


Come on.These werent even the real ones.Shocking?Yes.But it's not like anyone died in that scene.Except for Kiritsugu's soul of course...

Am I not even allowed for some grail-black humor here? Geeeez. And I especially threw CP reference so it would be obvious that I'm completely not serious.

And I liked this episode Iri murder version more. Way more suffering and cute Ilya really gave extra impact.


You arent serious that was obvious from Seihai-kun and the fact that you read FZ before but you know how some will react to this scene.Of course some reactions will be funny so nvm...

I know and I am SO gonna enjoy it. I am also waiting for people's reaction to last episode and their overall assesment. I like to read reviews and people's feelings about series that I enjoy, even if they have different opinions.
 
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Who's Shirou?

Maybe this episode wasn't good for people who have watched/read other fate products or whatever, you know, like when Harry Potter fans say books are better than movies.


Fate/stay night main char.

If you dont feel like entire scenes were missing then ok.

kenshin_sama said:
Destruction of the grail, love it!

Still don't agree with Lancelot as Berserker, that really threw out any love I had for this series. >.<


Why?


Yeah, just rewatched it again, it was pretty, random, but hell, its Berserker, who cares. Everything else was amazing though.

How did saber get to the Grail so fast though? And by killing master, shouldn't servant disappear?


What's LN everyone's talking about?
 
06-16-12, 10:03 AM

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NNick said:
How did saber get to the Grail so fast though? And by killing master, shouldn't servant disappear?
The Berserker/Saber fight was at the carpark beneath the municipal hall where the Grail is. So she got there by walking. Well, limping because Lancelot beat her up good.
 
06-16-12, 10:03 AM

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Are you talking about Gilgamesh?; Archer class has a trait called Independent Action. That means they can stay in the world much longer than other servants. Hell, even a heroic spirit with Independent Action A+ can stay always in the world, as long as he doesn't uses a Noble Phantasm.
 
06-16-12, 10:03 AM

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NNick said:
How did saber get to the Grail so fast though? And by killing master, shouldn't servant disappear?

Archer has a skill Independent Action: A, which allows him to remain in the world for even several days after his Master's death.
 
06-16-12, 10:04 AM

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RAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!

WHY IS UFOTABLE RUINING MY FATE/ZERO GODDAMNIT!!!!!

Seriously, I knew this would freaking happen the moment I saw the preview last week. URRRRR. Rushed ART, rushed DEATH, rushed PROPOSAL, everything RUSHED.............. WHY???

To make you buy the BD's what else. I refuse to believe a studio like Ufotable would tarnish the penultimate episode unless its for a purpose. That purpose=$$$$$$$$$$

They did this with episode 11 too. Episode 11 was longer and they fixed some art in the BD version but overall the ART DROP is still noticeable compared to other eps. Seriously DERP FACE everywhere this episode. And that pacing? HORRIBLE!! DURRRRRRRWhy the hell do they always fuck up the important parts? CURSE YOU UFOTABLE I'm not buying your BD!!!


IMO ep 11 was fine compared to this
 
06-16-12, 10:14 AM

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It was a decent ep. Not the best though. I definitely expected more. Bluray plz.
 
06-16-12, 10:14 AM

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ssjokg said:
Lumathy said:
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Lumathy said:
RAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!

WHY IS UFOTABLE RUINING MY FATE/ZERO GODDAMNIT!!!!!

Seriously, I knew this would freaking happen the moment I saw the preview last week. URRRRR. Rushed ART, rushed DEATH, rushed PROPOSAL, everything RUSHED.............. WHY???

To make you buy the BD's what else. I refuse to believe a studio like Ufotable would tarnish the penultimate episode unless its for a purpose. That purpose=$$$$$$$$$$

They did this with episode 11 too. Episode 11 was longer and they fixed some art in the BD version but overall the ART DROP is still noticeable compared to other eps. Seriously DERP FACE everywhere this episode. And that pacing? HORRIBLE!! DURRRRRRRWhy the hell do they always fuck up the important parts? CURSE YOU UFOTABLE I'm not buying your BD!!!


IMO ep 11 was fine compared to this

At least now people can shut up about UFOtable doing Heaven's Feel adaption, seeing that they can't even handle the pacing of a LINEAR novel with clear plot, there's clearly no hope for them to pull off a VN adaption.
 
06-16-12, 10:14 AM

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So basically, everyone dies in the end. (Fate/Zero)
Then Everyone gets re-summoned in Fate/Stay Night and war/fighting continues.


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06-16-12, 10:14 AM

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NNick said:

Yeah, just rewatched it again, it was pretty, random, but hell, its Berserker, who cares. Everything else was amazing though.

How did saber get to the Grail so fast though? And by killing master, shouldn't servant disappear?

What's LN everyone's talking about?


A lot actually cared for that scene.You can see that in the posts.It's not only me.

LN=Light novel


NNick said:
So basically, everyone dies in the end. (Fate/Zero)
Then Everyone gets re-summoned in Fate/Stay Night and war/fighting continues.


eh..no
 
06-16-12, 10:16 AM

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NNick said:
So basically, everyone dies in the end. (Fate/Zero)
Then Everyone gets re-summoned in Fate/Stay Night and war/fighting continues.

New Heroes, New Masters
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I relied on logic to understand something
 
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NNick said:
So basically, everyone dies in the end. (Fate/Zero)
Then Everyone gets re-summoned in Fate/Stay Night and war/fighting continues.

Not exactly. The only servants who re appears in FSN is Saber and ermmm...

But after that we get new masters and servants.
 
06-16-12, 10:16 AM

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NNick said:
ssjokg said:
NNick said:
Who's Shirou?

Maybe this episode wasn't good for people who have watched/read other fate products or whatever, you know, like when Harry Potter fans say books are better than movies.


Fate/stay night main char.

If you dont feel like entire scenes were missing then ok.

kenshin_sama said:
Destruction of the grail, love it!

Still don't agree with Lancelot as Berserker, that really threw out any love I had for this series. >.<


Why?


Yeah, just rewatched it again, it was pretty, random, but hell, its Berserker, who cares. Everything else was amazing though.


I CARE. I mean hell, it's frekin Lancelot, one of the greatest knights I've read about. And he shows great loyalty to King Arthur too, I really don't feel like this concept should have been walked on unless it was ABSOLUTELY necessary (which in this case I felt could have been left out). Not only was the treachery a bad enough mess of his character, they make him into a mindless fighter fuck that does not fit his character at all.

I probably could have overlooked this if they at least made some more interesting development from this twist, but they just kind of threw it in there and nothing good came from it at all. =/
 
06-16-12, 10:17 AM

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If Ufo think this ep is too long to show the OP, why couldn't they cut the ED as well T.T That was 1m30s of showtime wasted. They could have made the Berserker scene a little more acceptable with that.
Also, Kiri heartbreakingly killed Iri in this ep already, so please, Ufotable, you can stop showing them happily together in the ED now.
 
06-16-12, 10:19 AM

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kenshin_sama said:
NNick said:
ssjokg said:
NNick said:
Who's Shirou?

Maybe this episode wasn't good for people who have watched/read other fate products or whatever, you know, like when Harry Potter fans say books are better than movies.


Fate/stay night main char.

If you dont feel like entire scenes were missing then ok.

kenshin_sama said:
Destruction of the grail, love it!

Still don't agree with Lancelot as Berserker, that really threw out any love I had for this series. >.<


Why?


Yeah, just rewatched it again, it was pretty, random, but hell, its Berserker, who cares. Everything else was amazing though.


I CARE. I mean hell, it's frekin Lancelot, one of the greatest knights I've read about. And he shows great loyalty to King Arthur too, I really don't feel like this concept should have been walked on unless it was ABSOLUTELY necessary (which in this case I felt could have been left out). Not only was the treachery a bad enough mess of his character, they make him into a mindless fighter fuck that does not fit his character at all.

I probably could have overlooked this if they at least made some more interesting development from this twist, but they just kind of threw it in there and nothing good came from it at all. =/


One of the things that were cut were what made Lancelot fit in the Berserker class without making him a treacherous bastard.Also his death in the LN shows how royal he was
 
06-16-12, 10:20 AM

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Hopefully i don't get banned or something for saying this , but where can i get LN?
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Fate Stay Night looks even worse than Fate Zero, for me, worse animation and , idk, looks just weird.
 
06-16-12, 10:21 AM

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kenshin_sama said:
NNick said:
ssjokg said:
NNick said:
Who's Shirou?

Maybe this episode wasn't good for people who have watched/read other fate products or whatever, you know, like when Harry Potter fans say books are better than movies.


Fate/stay night main char.

If you dont feel like entire scenes were missing then ok.

kenshin_sama said:
Destruction of the grail, love it!

Still don't agree with Lancelot as Berserker, that really threw out any love I had for this series. >.<


Why?


Yeah, just rewatched it again, it was pretty, random, but hell, its Berserker, who cares. Everything else was amazing though.


I CARE. I mean hell, it's frekin Lancelot, one of the greatest knights I've read about. And he shows great loyalty to King Arthur too, I really don't feel like this concept should have been walked on unless it was ABSOLUTELY necessary (which in this case I felt could have been left out). Not only was the treachery a bad enough mess of his character, they make him into a mindless fighter fuck that does not fit his character at all.

I probably could have overlooked this if they at least made some more interesting development from this twist, but they just kind of threw it in there and nothing good came from it at all. =/

it's UFOTABLE'S FAULT. They cut his flashback. You can start insulting them now.
 
06-16-12, 10:22 AM

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Even tho that wasn't the real Iri and Ilya that was still heartbreaking ;_; and Sabers scream at the end :(
<img src="http://i.imgur.com/8Assf.png" />
 
06-16-12, 10:23 AM

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NNick said:
Hopefully i don't get banned or something for saying this , but where can i get LN?
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Fate Stay Night looks even worse than Fate Zero, for me, worse animation and , idk, looks just weird.


No shit,FSN anime is worse than FZ?I dont fucking believe you
 
06-16-12, 10:24 AM

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ssjokg said:

No shit,FSN anime is worse than FZ?I dont fucking believe you


FSN anime is way way worse than Fate/Zero. It's not even comparable.
 
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