Fate/Zero 2nd Season Episode 11 Discussion
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| 5 out of 5: Loved it! | 364 | 79.13% | |
| 4 out of 5: Liked it | 58 | 12.61% | |
| 3 out of 5: It was OK | 24 | 5.22% | |
| 2 out of 5: Disliked it | 10 | 2.17% | |
| 1 out of 5: Hated it | 4 | 0.87% |
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06-16-12, 8:25 AM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- No OP. Irisviel became the cup. sever battle against the two most enemies. That Berserker talked a bit before being killed by Saber. The vision of Kiritsugu's choice of the cup is interesting, the enemy saw it, too, and Kiritsugu won. Saber caught up to the cup and the servant of priest already arrived. He wanted her to be the bride? She refused, but Kiritsugu appeared and ordered her to destroy the cup! There's ED. And the final ep.'s title is Fate/Zero. |
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06-16-12, 8:51 AM
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Not sure how to feel about this episode coming from a novel reader's perspective.  |
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06-16-12, 9:02 AM
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McRib said: Not sure how to feel about this episode coming from a novel reader's perspective. I feel the same.Saber vs Lancelot was butchered,dream scene was a bit weird but better than looking at it from the sky or something but I think it would be better to have Iri-Angra Mainyu talk instead of "Kiritsugu".Iri+Ilya+Kerry scene although not bad lacked something. The bad thing was that the scenes that were cut were obvious most of the time.I hope they fix it in the Bd  |
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06-16-12, 9:03 AM
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/a/ is throwing a bitch fit over this episode. Is it really that bad? They had like a million animators working on this episode. SOExclusive said: I relied on logic to understand something |
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06-16-12, 9:07 AM
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Well that started out good but overall was good and the events became pretty dumb :/. Kiritsugu still needed even more development?! Action was nice <img src="http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lx1a8gz3tu1qbxqfpo1_500.png" /> |
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06-16-12, 9:09 AM
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dankickyou said: /a/ is throwing a bitch fit over this episode. Is it really that bad? They had like a million animators working on this episode. they are probably butthurt for the fact that Kerry wasn't owned by Kirei. Well, my opinion is the following: The episode was 3.5/5 - 4/5, no more. They killed, simply destroyed the Seibah x Berseker scene, which I didn't like at all +1 point for Kerry owning Kirei +1 point for Kerry overall - good decision +1 for Kirei imploring and being almost desperate for having the Grail Kinda ... as I said in the previous (episode 10) thread: they should have made 2 episodes: 1 of them 1 hour another 20 minutes, so that they include more fighting. Also, I changed my opinion about Gil after Fate/Zero (well 1 episode still remains but ...). He is a good candidate for my favourite characters in Fate series now. Modified by TheWitcher, 06-16-12, 9:15 AM Sore Wa Himitsu Desu |
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06-16-12, 9:11 AM
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27CansOfTuna said: Well that started out good but overall was good and the events became pretty dumb :/. Kiritsugu still needed even more development?! Action was nice It wasnt a Kiritsugu development scene.Like I said the problem is that they had "himself" show how the grail would grant his wish.Also the scene with Ilya and Iri would make no sense without it |
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06-16-12, 9:13 AM
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Kerry vs Kirei was satisfactory at most parts. But that second block by Kirei of the Contender was disappointing. Where's my whirlwind punch that deflected the bullet and not absorbed it? And wtf happened to the Berserker vs Saber part. Why is is so gimped? Where's my flashbacks and the post battle talk. Dammit, BDs for sure. The Grail part was very satisfying though. Full of despair. Kerry's despair for the outcome of his wish was just...wow. And I knew it would end at that part. Saber's despair at Kerry's last commands. Really, aside from the Berserker vs Saber part, this would have been a perfect episode. Dammit. Last episode next week. And where F/Z ends, F/SN begins, as evident in the preview. Happy Father's Day. Dammit ufotable, you're doing this on purpose Modified by belatkuro, 06-16-12, 9:16 AM  |
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06-16-12, 9:20 AM
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belatkuro said: Kerry vs Kirei was satisfactory at most parts. But that second block by Kirei of the Contender was disappointing. Where's my whirlwind punch that deflected the bullet and not absorbed it? And wtf happened to the Berserker vs Saber part. Why is is so gimped? Where's my flashbacks and the post battle talk. Dammit, BDs for sure. The Grail part was very satisfying though. Full of despair. Kerry's despair for the outcome of his wish was just...wow. And I knew it would end at that part. Saber's despair at Kerry's last commands. Really, aside from the Berserker vs Saber part, this would have been an awesome episode. Dammit. Last episode next week. And where F/Z ends, F/SN begins, as evident in the preview. Happy Father's Day. Dammit ufotable, you're doing this on purpose Agreed, we need a BD now so the episode can be perfect. I had high expectations about the berserker/Saber batle and closure and we just got trolled by Ufotable... the rest was just perfect, the grail scene and all. The scream of saber trying to stop the excalibur was really nice too.  |
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06-16-12, 9:21 AM
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Ah...*****, only 24 minutes. Oh, well, lets see how this end up. Here's hoping that they at least gave Kariya a proper send off. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Change, change the form of man. Free the might from fleshy mire. Boil the blood in heart of fire. Gone, gone the form of man. Rise the demon, Etrigan! |
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06-16-12, 9:22 AM
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belatkuro said: Kerry vs Kirei was satisfactory at most parts. But that second block by Kirei of the Contender was disappointing. Where's my whirlwind punch that deflected the bullet and not absorbed it? And wtf happened to the Berserker vs Saber part. Why is is so gimped? Where's my flashbacks and the post battle talk. Dammit, BDs for sure. The Grail part was very satisfying though. Full of despair. Kerry's despair for the outcome of his wish was just...wow. And I knew it would end at that part. Saber's despair at Kerry's last commands. Really, aside from the Berserker vs Saber part, this would have been an awesome episode. Dammit. Last episode next week. And where F/Z ends, F/SN begins, as evident in the preview. Happy Father's Day. Dammit ufotable, you're doing this on purpose Forget the flashback.There was no despair,Saber successfullydeflected Lancelot's attacks in the anime,Lancelot's "death" was the most disappointing scene in both seasons and she didnt resist at all against the command sealsl.Even in the first it was just Excalibur revealing itself.... BD's better be good. 2/5 and it's the first time I rated a FZ ep below 5 Modified by ssjokg, 06-16-12, 9:30 AM |
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06-16-12, 9:25 AM
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Eternal glory and winning the grail isn't easy...  Intense episode is intense between the battle of the masters. Some pictures: Also, another servant bites the dust: Another fitting day for Father's Day, thanks F/Z :) Modified by Stark700, 06-16-12, 10:52 AM  |
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06-16-12, 9:27 AM
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It was butchered, indeed, but they managed to contain key points (if I regret something it is lack of Berserkers flashbacks/background/everything and messing up Kirei's contender blocking). *insert BDs prayers* But more than that, for all people who felt unhappy with Irisviel's death by hands of Kirei please enjoy rendition of the scene brought to you by Sehai-kun! Now with Ilya as a bonus to ensure 100% more despair! |
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06-16-12, 9:33 AM
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dankickyou said: /a/ is throwing a bitch fit over this episode. Is it really that bad? They had like a million animators working on this episode. Too many cooks in the kitchen ruins the stew. Too many animators and directors in the studio ruins the episode. |
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06-16-12, 9:33 AM
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YOU ALL CAN GO _____ yourselves. I haven't read the novel nor do i care at this point but this episode was beyond epic. |
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06-16-12, 9:34 AM
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Trenerka said: It was butchered, indeed, but they managed to contain key points (if I regret something it is lack of Berserkers flashbacks/background/everything and messing up Kirei's contender blocking). *insert BDs prayers* But more than that, for all people who felt unhappy with Irisviel's death by hands of Kirei please enjoy rendition of the scene brought to you by Sehai-kun! Now with Ilya as a bonus to ensure 100% more despair! Come on.These werent even the real ones.Shocking?Yes.But it's not like anyone died in that scene.Except for Kiritsugu's soul of course... |
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06-16-12, 9:35 AM
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NNick said: YOU ALL CAN GO _____ yourselves. I haven't read the novel nor do i care at this point but this episode was beyond epic. well, nobody'd have said anything if you just mentioned that it's beyond epic nvm Sore Wa Himitsu Desu |
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06-16-12, 9:36 AM
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That fight was so beautiful......  |
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06-16-12, 9:37 AM
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NNick said: YOU ALL CAN GO _____ yourselves. I haven't read the novel nor do i care at this point but this episode was beyond epic. Wasnt Saber's victory out of nowhere?Srsly?People were bitching about Gil pulling Ea out of his ass yet they are satisfied with Saber's victory?I guess Kerry's explanation was enough when he revived so ok 1/3 of the ep WAS epic |
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06-16-12, 9:38 AM
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It was all just a dream right? He didn't kill his own child and Iri? ssjokg said: NNick said: YOU ALL CAN GO _____ yourselves. I haven't read the novel nor do i care at this point but this episode was beyond epic. Wasnt Saber's victory out of nowhere?Srsly?People were bitching about Gil pulling Ea out of his ass yet they are satisfied with Saber's victory?I guess Kerry's explanation was enough when he revived so ok 1/3 of the ep WAS epic Don't really care about Saber, I was cheering For Rider. It is however fun to see her suffering. |