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#81
06-16-12, 1:21 PM
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KeiraShikari said: ZBurn said: jpem said: I'll agree that the anime industry is great when complete worthy adaptions become the common thing rather than what are essentially 13 episode trailers for manga and light novels. And begins when the thread goes waaaayyyy off topic The thread had no direction to begin with. so true my 11 main things i rate on 1 Impact on Impact on industry both the anime and Original Manga had 2 TV Ratings in Japan [ Gross for movies Unit sales for OVAs 3 Manga Ka of the Sourcework 4 how loyal the anime stayed to its source how well the compare to other big name in its genre 5 Seiyuu casting [ how many i know by voice i use the royal I here ] 6 Impact on General Pop Culture in Japan and the West 7 Impact on Otaku Culture in Japan and the West 8 Music[ Instrumentation] 9 merchandise sales 10 art style 11 Studio who produced the anime[ and what thay have done for the industry] |
#82
06-16-12, 1:34 PM
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AMiga24 i should of known you would be the center of attention here. Coming in here creating huge debates, arguments, putting people down, intentionally making the thread go off topic into a huge war zone, and insulting people, what you do best but have no information to clarify your arguments. You just eat this shit up don't you?? Anime_Name your no different. Your just siding with him, trying to bash the western fanbase, creating hate among the thread. Is that all you guys do in forums? Why can't you just stay on topic, provide some feed back instead of getting under everyone's skin.  |
#83
06-16-12, 1:36 PM
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link9us said: AMiga24 i should of known you would be the center of attention here. Coming in here creating huge debates, arguments, putting people down, intentionally making the thread go off topic into a huge war zone, and insulting people, what you do best but have no information to clarify your arguments. You just eat this shit up don't you?? Is that all you do in forums? Why can't you just stay on topic, provide some feed back instead of getting under everyone's skin. Well the premise of this topic was so completely idiotic that this was probably the only way this topic could get discussion. |
#84
06-16-12, 1:38 PM
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ap19 said: I'm sure there are more people who watch anime outside of Japan than inside Japan. There may be even more people in just the U.S. than Japan. Course, most Japanese people are oblivious of the situation. That would be pretty tough to prove since inside Japan there are a hundred or so new anime airing every season while outside of Japan we're lucky to receive a fraction of that released.  |
#85
06-16-12, 1:39 PM
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link9us said: AMiga24 i should of known you would be the center of attention here. Coming in here creating huge debates, arguments, putting people down, intentionally making the thread go off topic into a huge war zone, and insulting people, what you do best but have no information to clarify your arguments. You just eat this shit up don't you?? Anime_Name your no different. Your just siding with him, trying to bash the western fanbase, creating hate among the thread. Is that all you guys do in forums? Why can't you just stay on topic, provide some feed back instead of getting under everyone's skin.  It was a big mistake to think that you're the only one who can turn into a car. I'm a car now too! |
#86
06-16-12, 1:40 PM
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whyisthis said: link9us said: AMiga24 i should of known you would be the center of attention here. Coming in here creating huge debates, arguments, putting people down, intentionally making the thread go off topic into a huge war zone, and insulting people, what you do best but have no information to clarify your arguments. You just eat this shit up don't you?? Is that all you do in forums? Why can't you just stay on topic, provide some feed back instead of getting under everyone's skin. Well the premise of this topic was so completely idiotic that this was probably the only way this topic could get discussion. I fail to see how the premise is idiotic.The OP was just asking anime fans what they think of the western fanbase,accepting any good or bad feedback. The problem is everyone else who somehow curved the topic of the tracks. And this: KeiraShikari said: Ah,life & it's mysterious ways. Modified by JeddyVII, 06-16-12, 1:45 PM JeddyVII said: Space Brothers - The best anime of 2012 & possibly the best slice-of-life anime I've seen.It may have some flaws (which doesn't affect my opinion),but I have yet to see anyone hate this series. |
#87
06-16-12, 1:42 PM
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Anime_Name said: ap19 said: I'm sure there are more people who watch anime outside of Japan than inside Japan. There may be even more people in just the U.S. than Japan. Course, most Japanese people are oblivious of the situation. That would be pretty tough to prove since inside Japan there are a hundred or so new anime airing every season while outside of Japan we're lucky to receive a fraction of that released. me and this guy usaly have totaly differing vews but when he states a soild fact like this there no argument to be had my 11 main things i rate on 1 Impact on Impact on industry both the anime and Original Manga had 2 TV Ratings in Japan [ Gross for movies Unit sales for OVAs 3 Manga Ka of the Sourcework 4 how loyal the anime stayed to its source how well the compare to other big name in its genre 5 Seiyuu casting [ how many i know by voice i use the royal I here ] 6 Impact on General Pop Culture in Japan and the West 7 Impact on Otaku Culture in Japan and the West 8 Music[ Instrumentation] 9 merchandise sales 10 art style 11 Studio who produced the anime[ and what thay have done for the industry] |
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06-16-12, 1:45 PM
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Anime_Name said: ap19 said: I'm sure there are more people who watch anime outside of Japan than inside Japan. There may be even more people in just the U.S. than Japan. Course, most Japanese people are oblivious of the situation. That would be pretty tough to prove since inside Japan there are a hundred or so new anime airing every season while outside of Japan we're lucky to receive a fraction of that released. I do not think his ap19's comment is exclusive to anime that is released. I think he means in general there are more people interested in anime then Japan alone. Which is an interesting point, it asks how much anime is downloaded and watched online. |
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06-16-12, 1:45 PM
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Anime_Name said: ap19 said: I'm sure there are more people who watch anime outside of Japan than inside Japan. There may be even more people in just the U.S. than Japan. Course, most Japanese people are oblivious of the situation. That would be pretty tough to prove since inside Japan there are a hundred or so new anime airing every season while outside of Japan we're lucky to receive a fraction of that released. Most of the anime that Japan puts out is available within hours of it airing via fansubs. Very few new shows aren't subbed. It was a big mistake to think that you're the only one who can turn into a car. I'm a car now too! |
#90
06-16-12, 1:46 PM
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Jeddy017 said: whyisthis said: link9us said: AMiga24 i should of known you would be the center of attention here. Coming in here creating huge debates, arguments, putting people down, intentionally making the thread go off topic into a huge war zone, and insulting people, what you do best but have no information to clarify your arguments. You just eat this shit up don't you?? Is that all you do in forums? Why can't you just stay on topic, provide some feed back instead of getting under everyone's skin. Well the premise of this topic was so completely idiotic that this was probably the only way this topic could get discussion. I fail to see how the premise is idiotic.The OP was just asking anime fans what they think of the western fanbase,accepting any good or bad feedback. The problem is everyone else who somehow curved the topic of the tracks. In any case, this thread is going to get locked im sure, because it has gotten way out of hand already. |
#91
06-16-12, 1:48 PM
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KeiraShikari said: Anime_Name said: ap19 said: I'm sure there are more people who watch anime outside of Japan than inside Japan. There may be even more people in just the U.S. than Japan. Course, most Japanese people are oblivious of the situation. That would be pretty tough to prove since inside Japan there are a hundred or so new anime airing every season while outside of Japan we're lucky to receive a fraction of that released. Most of the anime that Japan puts out is available within hours of it airing via fansubs. Very few new shows aren't subbed. i doubt this highly od say around 33-50% of anime yaer on year gets fansubbed but then agin there are big long ongoing anime that have not even been touched at lest 4 of them so that knocks that perecentge down my 11 main things i rate on 1 Impact on Impact on industry both the anime and Original Manga had 2 TV Ratings in Japan [ Gross for movies Unit sales for OVAs 3 Manga Ka of the Sourcework 4 how loyal the anime stayed to its source how well the compare to other big name in its genre 5 Seiyuu casting [ how many i know by voice i use the royal I here ] 6 Impact on General Pop Culture in Japan and the West 7 Impact on Otaku Culture in Japan and the West 8 Music[ Instrumentation] 9 merchandise sales 10 art style 11 Studio who produced the anime[ and what thay have done for the industry] |
#92
06-16-12, 1:50 PM
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i hope this topic doesn't get locked. It was hilariously stupid. |
#93
06-16-12, 1:50 PM
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link9us said: AMiga24 i should of known you would be the center of attention here. Coming in here creating huge debates, arguments, putting people down, intentionally making the thread go off topic into a huge war zone, and insulting people, what you do best but have no information to clarify your arguments. You just eat this shit up don't you?? Anime_Name your no different. Your just siding with him, trying to bash the western fanbase, creating hate among the thread. Is that all you guys do in forums? Why can't you just stay on topic, provide some feed back instead of getting under everyone's skin. Someone has to correct all the wrong people out there. Why not someone with first hand knowledge of having lived in Japan? In my experience, Japanese fanbases are much friendly and more intelligent. |
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06-16-12, 1:51 PM
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Armiga21 said: link9us said: AMiga24 i should of known you would be the center of attention here. Coming in here creating huge debates, arguments, putting people down, intentionally making the thread go off topic into a huge war zone, and insulting people, what you do best but have no information to clarify your arguments. You just eat this shit up don't you?? Anime_Name your no different. Your just siding with him, trying to bash the western fanbase, creating hate among the thread. Is that all you guys do in forums? Why can't you just stay on topic, provide some feed back instead of getting under everyone's skin. Someone has to correct all the wrong people out there. i try you try but we both fail my 11 main things i rate on 1 Impact on Impact on industry both the anime and Original Manga had 2 TV Ratings in Japan [ Gross for movies Unit sales for OVAs 3 Manga Ka of the Sourcework 4 how loyal the anime stayed to its source how well the compare to other big name in its genre 5 Seiyuu casting [ how many i know by voice i use the royal I here ] 6 Impact on General Pop Culture in Japan and the West 7 Impact on Otaku Culture in Japan and the West 8 Music[ Instrumentation] 9 merchandise sales 10 art style 11 Studio who produced the anime[ and what thay have done for the industry] |
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06-16-12, 1:51 PM
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Enjolras1830 said: KeiraShikari said: Anime_Name said: ap19 said: I'm sure there are more people who watch anime outside of Japan than inside Japan. There may be even more people in just the U.S. than Japan. Course, most Japanese people are oblivious of the situation. That would be pretty tough to prove since inside Japan there are a hundred or so new anime airing every season while outside of Japan we're lucky to receive a fraction of that released. Most of the anime that Japan puts out is available within hours of it airing via fansubs. Very few new shows aren't subbed. i doubt this highly od say around 33-50% of anime yaer on year gets fansubbed but then agin there are big long ongoing anime that have not even been touched at lest 4 of them so that knocks that perecentge down Well yeah we haven't got the 6000+ episode family shows but as far as far as seasonal anime go we get most of them. It was a big mistake to think that you're the only one who can turn into a car. I'm a car now too! |
#96
06-16-12, 1:57 PM
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Suzune-chan said: Anime_Name said: ap19 said: I'm sure there are more people who watch anime outside of Japan than inside Japan. There may be even more people in just the U.S. than Japan. Course, most Japanese people are oblivious of the situation. That would be pretty tough to prove since inside Japan there are a hundred or so new anime airing every season while outside of Japan we're lucky to receive a fraction of that released. I do not think his ap19's comment is exclusive to anime that is released. I think he means in general there are more people interested in anime then Japan alone. Which is an interesting point, it asks how much anime is downloaded and watched online. It still trying to conclude that the combination of people what watch legally/illegally in Japan is less than the total number of people outside of Japan. Good luck trying to prove that theory when 100% of the anime available in Japan is not made available outside of Japan(even fansubbed). Most of the anime that Japan puts out is available within hours of it airing via fansubs. Very few new shows aren't subbed. It's not a question of how fast some shows get fansubbed but rather how many people watch them. There's 20000 seeds for Game of Thrones , that's a lot of seeds but doesn't compare to how many people actually watch it legally. Which is the same point I'm making about fansubbed shows. |
#97
06-16-12, 1:59 PM
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KeiraShikari said: Enjolras1830 said: KeiraShikari said: Anime_Name said: ap19 said: I'm sure there are more people who watch anime outside of Japan than inside Japan. There may be even more people in just the U.S. than Japan. Course, most Japanese people are oblivious of the situation. That would be pretty tough to prove since inside Japan there are a hundred or so new anime airing every season while outside of Japan we're lucky to receive a fraction of that released. Most of the anime that Japan puts out is available within hours of it airing via fansubs. Very few new shows aren't subbed. i doubt this highly od say around 33-50% of anime yaer on year gets fansubbed but then agin there are big long ongoing anime that have not even been touched at lest 4 of them so that knocks that perecentge down Well yeah we haven't got the 6000+ episode family shows but as far as far as seasonal anime go we get most of them. i was aiming at world of goden eggs just over 300 at last count Nintama 1500 plus at last count Crayon Shin Chan around 1400 at last count Maruko chan around 1090 at last count and the best SOL made in recet years has yet tpo be touched Tesuko no tabi made in 07 so thats the percent knocked down once more Mai Nichi Kaa-san also very good and new has yet to be touched my 11 main things i rate on 1 Impact on Impact on industry both the anime and Original Manga had 2 TV Ratings in Japan [ Gross for movies Unit sales for OVAs 3 Manga Ka of the Sourcework 4 how loyal the anime stayed to its source how well the compare to other big name in its genre 5 Seiyuu casting [ how many i know by voice i use the royal I here ] 6 Impact on General Pop Culture in Japan and the West 7 Impact on Otaku Culture in Japan and the West 8 Music[ Instrumentation] 9 merchandise sales 10 art style 11 Studio who produced the anime[ and what thay have done for the industry] |
#98
06-16-12, 2:00 PM
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Well yeah we haven't got the 6000+ episode family shows but as far as far as seasonal anime go we get most of them. But if you don't get all of them how can you propose that people outside of Japan watch more anime than the people who get them all? Some shows might get more views outside of Japan but that's not enough to conclude that the world has more overall anime viewers. |
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06-16-12, 2:01 PM
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@Anime_Name It is a good point. There would be no way naturally to prove it. Unless amazon japan has statistics for how many foreign copies are sold... Are you suggesting that the rest of the world is going to soon be without fansubs? |
#100
06-16-12, 2:02 PM
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Crunchyroll are putting out Kaasan. It was a big mistake to think that you're the only one who can turn into a car. I'm a car now too! |